Game #153 -- Toronto Blue Jays at New York Yankees

by anaconda on Sep 21, 2007 4:57 PM EDT in News Comment 128 comments

Toronto Blue Jays

Reed Johnson, RF
Matt Stairs, 1B
Álex Ríos, CF
Frank Thomas, DH
Aaron Hill, 2B
Russ Adams, 3B
Gregg Zaun, C
Adam Lind, LF
Ray Olmedo, SS

Roy Halladay, RHP (15-7, 3.82)

New York Yankees

Johnny Damon, LF
Derek Jeter, SS
Bobby Abreu, RF
Alex Rodriguez, 3B
Hideki Matsui, DH
Jorge Posada, C
Robinson Cano, 2B
Doug Mientkiewicz, 1B
Melky Cabrera, CF

Chien-Ming Wang, RHP (18-7, 3.82)

Yanks have won 12 of 14 and have gained 5.5 games on the Red Sox during that span.

How dominant has Roy Halladay been against the Yankees?

His lifetime numbers are 10-4, 3.10 ERA in 25 games. Ironically, the Yanks haven't beaten him since Sept 21, 2004, which was 3 years ago today. He's 4-0, 1.90 ERA in his last 7 starts against them since his last defeat.

Wang had been undefeated against the Blue Jays prior to this season (3-0, 2.89 in 4 starts), but he has been shelled in 2 starts against them in 2007 (0-2, 9.90 ERA).

Yankees' career numbers vs. Halladay can be viewed here. Jays' career numbers vs. Wang can be viewed here.

The featured graphic for tonight's game is an alternate jersey logo of the Toronto Blue Jays from 2001 to 2003.

Update [2007-9-21 17:26:5 by anaconda]:

Ed Price is reporting that Ian Kennedy will be scratched from Saturday’s scheduled start due to a "muscle strain in his upper back." Well, that sucks.

Since the team had been using a six-man rotation anyways, the others will simply move up a day.

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Re: Game #153

Are we allowed to have two left fielders?

by cph on Sep 21, 2007 6:12 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

New rule

Like short-field in Little League softball.

River Ave. Blues
Yanks and prospects

by PinstripePowerhouse on Sep 21, 2007 6:14 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Oops...

Fixed. Thanks.

by anaconda on Sep 21, 2007 6:23 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Re: Sox up 1-0

But its not like we're watching the scoreboard.

Oh those bases on balls. Can anyone here throw strikes???

by mickey07 on Sep 21, 2007 7:20 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

LoHud reports....

that the Giants have told Bonds to take a hike after this season because they are not bringing him back.

http://yankees.lohudblogs.com/2007/09/21/game-153-blue-jays-at-yankees/

I'm hoping the rest of baseball just blackballs him and he is forced to retire instead of hang on as a DH for a couple more years to pad his *stats.

by anaconda on Sep 21, 2007 7:22 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Re: LoHud reports....

So, no pinstripes for Barry I guess.

If he's cheap enough somebody will probably sign him. It would be nice if Boston did. I dislike that team anyway.

The Opera ain't over til the fat lady sings

by Cbeck3 on Sep 21, 2007 7:41 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Re: LoHud reports....

Most Sux fans hate him too and Schilling despises him so I don't see him going there. I don't agree with them with very much but we're all on the same page about Bonds.

"The secret of managing is to keep the guys who hate you away from the guys who are undecided." -Casey Stengel

by bxgrl1 on Sep 21, 2007 7:54 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Re: LoHud reports....

It's a moot point because they already have two DHs with Ortiz and Manny.

by anaconda on Sep 21, 2007 7:56 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

I almost feel sorry

for the guy.

The blogger formerly known as 'chris'

by LateInningRelief on Sep 21, 2007 8:18 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Damon was out by plenty

by anaconda on Sep 21, 2007 7:23 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Re: Damon was out by plenty

At first or caught stealing?

"The secret of managing is to keep the guys who hate you away from the guys who are undecided." -Casey Stengel

by bxgrl1 on Sep 21, 2007 7:28 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Re: Damon was out by plenty

Caught stealing.

by anaconda on Sep 21, 2007 7:34 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Re: Sterling did it again

this is my nightly rehash of Sterling calling a HR while the ball is in the air...only to be caught at the wall...ARods fly to RC was caught, but...yeah, he went through the It is high..thing.

Oh those bases on balls. Can anyone here throw strikes???

by mickey07 on Sep 21, 2007 7:30 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Re: Sterling did it again-K too

going back, at the wall, makes the play

We have to be able to get better, don't we?

The Opera ain't over til the fat lady sings

by Cbeck3 on Sep 21, 2007 7:35 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Re: Sterling did it again

What a turd Sterling is.

by PsiFighter37 on Sep 21, 2007 7:40 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Bad baserunning by Hill

Good for Wang.

by anaconda on Sep 21, 2007 7:37 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Not a good inning for Johnny D.

Caught stealing cost a run. Poor play in the corner.

Nice save by Wang.

The Opera ain't over til the fat lady sings

by Cbeck3 on Sep 21, 2007 7:38 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Re: Not a good inning for Johnny D.

I have to think that they were told to put pressure on Halladay trying to steal etc.

"The secret of managing is to keep the guys who hate you away from the guys who are undecided." -Casey Stengel

by bxgrl1 on Sep 21, 2007 7:43 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Re: Not a good inning for Johnny D.

My guess is he can run on his own. With Jeter up, you'd think hit and run. that is what's called 20/20 hindsight. It was only the first inning though.

Oh those bases on balls. Can anyone here throw strikes???

by mickey07 on Sep 21, 2007 7:47 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Damn....

It's 4-0 Royals over Tigers. Bot 3rd

by anaconda on Sep 21, 2007 7:53 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Re: Damn....

The Tigers are one of my least disliked teams but if they want to roll over and play dead, that is fine with me.

"The secret of managing is to keep the guys who hate you away from the guys who are undecided." -Casey Stengel

by bxgrl1 on Sep 21, 2007 7:58 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Re: Damn....

Fine with me as well.

It would be great to see them clinch at home this weekend and use the remaining handful of games to rest their starters.

by anaconda on Sep 21, 2007 8:01 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Re: Damn....

i think that win over boston on sunday night really deflated them. they had won 8 of 10 at that point and so had the yanks.

at that point, i think they realized they had given the yanks their best shot and that was it. especially because they had to go into cleveland.

by Clutch like Leyritz on Sep 21, 2007 8:06 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Re: Damn....

I'm really surprised DET has fallen apart so quickly.

They had been red hot coming into that series, but I think the Blake walkoff HR in extra innings on Monday has a lot to do with their collapse as anything else.

by anaconda on Sep 21, 2007 8:10 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

why are we first pitch swinging?

Oh those bases on balls. Can anyone here throw strikes???

by mickey07 on Sep 21, 2007 7:58 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Re: why are we first pitch swinging?

Maybe they're taking after Robbie.

by PsiFighter37 on Sep 21, 2007 7:58 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Pitch counts:

Halladay: 32 in 3 IP

Wang: 53 in 4 IP

by anaconda on Sep 21, 2007 8:06 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

come on boys WE NEED RUNS!

The Opera ain't over til the fat lady sings

by Cbeck3 on Sep 21, 2007 8:06 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Re: come on boys WE NEED RUNS!

They also need to work the counts.

"The secret of managing is to keep the guys who hate you away from the guys who are undecided." -Casey Stengel

by bxgrl1 on Sep 21, 2007 8:10 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

42 pitches thru 4

halladay could go 13 innings at this rate.

by Clutch like Leyritz on Sep 21, 2007 8:12 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Re: Game #153 -- Toronto Blue Jays at New York Yan

This is going to be a tough game...I was at the game in July where the Pettitte was behind 2-1 against Halladay, but the Yankees tied it in the 9th and won it in the 10th. Hopefully we can get him out of there sooner rather than later.

by PsiFighter37 on Sep 21, 2007 8:13 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Re: Game #153 -- Toronto Blue Jays at New York Yan

i remember that. that was the week the yanks started to right the ship.

by Clutch like Leyritz on Sep 21, 2007 8:19 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Damn

Only 10 pitches for Halladay that inning.

by docgonzo on Sep 21, 2007 8:14 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Halladay's tendency

We are swinging early in the count, unlike the usual M.O. for the Yankees, so I guess Donnie Baseball and Joe feel like if Halladay gets into a pitchers count, we are not going to get decent pitches to hit. Risky business.

Oh those bases on balls. Can anyone here throw strikes???

by mickey07 on Sep 21, 2007 8:26 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

More entertainment....

Yahoo Sports has 10 reason why the Red Sox will collapse. LOL.

I find it hilarious that many Red Sox fans suddenly don't care about winning the AL East. How convenient. They certainly cared when they were up by 14.5 games.

by anaconda on Sep 21, 2007 8:27 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Wow...

Posada is the WORST Yankee base-runner under the Joe Torre era.

by anaconda on Sep 21, 2007 8:29 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Re: Wow...

Yeah, Posada is the anti-Jeter.

Bernie was the most frustrating for me, though. The guy had speed, but zero quickness. Took him forever to get going, which is why he was such an awful base stealer.

"God, I just love baseball." - Robert Redford in The Natural

by uflyibuy on Sep 21, 2007 8:44 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Re: Wow...

Yeah, Bernie never had good instincts on the basepaths either.

You don't have to be fast to be a good baserunner. O'Neill stole 20 bases in his final season and he was never considered a fast runner -- especially with all of the leg/foot/ankle injuries he suffered over the years.

by anaconda on Sep 21, 2007 8:52 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Who's bright idea

was to send Posada?

"I may not be the greatest Yankee, but Iam the proudest!"- Billy No.1

by StrappedYankee on Sep 21, 2007 8:31 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Re: Who's bright idea

with the way halladay has looked thus far, i think it was worth the risk. its not like a-rod was on deck.

by Clutch like Leyritz on Sep 21, 2007 8:34 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Re: Who's bright idea

I would agree if it was anybody but Posada at third.

by anaconda on Sep 21, 2007 8:38 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Re: Who's bright idea

How does no one know that Jorge can't run? How does Jorge not know it?

"The secret of managing is to keep the guys who hate you away from the guys who are undecided." -Casey Stengel

by bxgrl1 on Sep 21, 2007 8:41 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Re: Who's bright idea

true. i dont know which is more unlikely, posada actually beating that throw or melky actually coming through there. seemed like a lose-lose situation.

by Clutch like Leyritz on Sep 21, 2007 8:41 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

I wonder

How many zeros will Wang have to throw before the Yanks score?

"I may not be the greatest Yankee, but Iam the proudest!"- Billy No.1

by StrappedYankee on Sep 21, 2007 8:35 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Hold Jorge...

he runs slower than my grandma and Halladay had given up two line drive hits...Minky pops out, give the bat to Melky to drive one.

Oh those bases on balls. Can anyone here throw strikes???

by mickey07 on Sep 21, 2007 8:40 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Re: Game #153 -- Toronto Blue Jays at New York Yan

Fuck. Meltdown Wang commencing.

by PsiFighter37 on Sep 21, 2007 8:57 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Meltdown?

2 runs in 7 IP is hardly a "meltdown."

Should have been 1 run because Posada usually makes that play.

by anaconda on Sep 21, 2007 9:00 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Re: Meltdown?

Well, I was being pessimistic. IIRC, there was a stat somewhere that hitters do much, much better with runners on-base against Wang than not.

I'm also following on SI.com's box score, so I'm not too sure of what exactly went down.

by PsiFighter37 on Sep 21, 2007 9:01 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Minky

has been a bright spot.

"I may not be the greatest Yankee, but Iam the proudest!"- Billy No.1

by StrappedYankee on Sep 21, 2007 8:59 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Halladay

Is going to pitch a CG, so it's score off him or lose- no working him to get to the bullpen, they'll leave him in for another 60 pitches.

by SP on Sep 21, 2007 9:01 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Re: Game #153

Cone on JORGE!

"I may not be the greatest Yankee, but Iam the proudest!"- Billy No.1

by StrappedYankee on Sep 21, 2007 9:09 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Re: Game #153

*COME

"I may not be the greatest Yankee, but Iam the proudest!"- Billy No.1

by StrappedYankee on Sep 21, 2007 9:09 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Defense

The Yankees defense leaves a LOT left to be desired. It could really cost them come playoff time when the games are tight and runs are at a premium.

"God, I just love baseball." - Robert Redford in The Natural

by uflyibuy on Sep 21, 2007 9:10 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

No excuses,

these guys just swept the Sox and we get their #1 pitcher tonight. Without Wells and Glaus and at home, I thought we had a pretty good chance for Wang to match Halladay. Not. Unless we get something going big time, right now, its a case of the other guys pitcher spinning magic.

Oh those bases on balls. Can anyone here throw strikes???

by mickey07 on Sep 21, 2007 9:27 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

I presume THE SQUIRREL did not

make an apperance?

"I may not be the greatest Yankee, but Iam the proudest!"- Billy No.1

by StrappedYankee on Sep 21, 2007 9:32 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Re: Game #153 -- Toronto Blue Jays at New York Yan

Nice to see them start hitting in the 9th freakin' inning.

by PsiFighter37 on Sep 21, 2007 9:54 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Re: Game #153 -- Toronto Blue Jays at New York Yan

Always drama!

"I may not be the greatest Yankee, but Iam the proudest!"- Billy No.1

by StrappedYankee on Sep 21, 2007 9:57 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

HOLY COW!

GO YANKEES. TIED GAME

"I may not be the greatest Yankee, but Iam the proudest!"- Billy No.1

by StrappedYankee on Sep 21, 2007 10:00 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Re: HOLY COW!

Really?

Hot fuckin' damn.

by PsiFighter37 on Sep 21, 2007 10:00 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Re: HOLY COW!

What are you talking about...it's 4-3.

by PsiFighter37 on Sep 21, 2007 10:00 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Are you freaking kidding me?

by anaconda on Sep 21, 2007 10:01 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Re: Game #153 -- Toronto Blue Jays at New York Yan

Wow.

Finish it, Melkman!

by PsiFighter37 on Sep 21, 2007 10:01 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Re: Game #153 -- Toronto Blue Jays at New York Yan

GET THEM BIRDS

"I may not be the greatest Yankee, but Iam the proudest!"- Billy No.1

by StrappedYankee on Sep 21, 2007 10:03 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

9TH ING.

PURE GUTS. GRINDING IT.

"I may not be the greatest Yankee, but Iam the proudest!"- Billy No.1

by StrappedYankee on Sep 21, 2007 10:04 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Just tied

We have work to do.

Top of the order coming up.

1-2-3 let's go Mo.

The Opera ain't over til the fat lady sings

by Cbeck3 on Sep 21, 2007 10:06 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Re: Just tied

GOTTA GO TO MO! NICE JOB.

"I may not be the greatest Yankee, but Iam the proudest!"- Billy No.1

by StrappedYankee on Sep 21, 2007 10:12 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

microcosm

this game is like a microcosm of the Yankee season. Looks bad at first, but not terrible, still lots of time (April). Gets worse with Jays scoring two mid game (May/June). Low point they score two more.

But wait...You've heard of Joba rules...this is Yogi's Rule...It ain't over till well you know...

Tie score, lets play some more....

Oh those bases on balls. Can anyone here throw strikes???

by mickey07 on Sep 21, 2007 10:08 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Re: Game #153 -- Toronto Blue Jays at New York Yan

Mother Fucking Yankees.

by BillyBobisdrunk on Sep 21, 2007 10:08 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Vintage Mo in that inning

by anaconda on Sep 21, 2007 10:11 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Re: Game #153 -- Toronto Blue Jays at New York Yan

Someone get on base...A-Rod is hitting well this game; I have faith in a game-ender from him if it comes to that.

by PsiFighter37 on Sep 21, 2007 10:17 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Re: Game #153

WHAT AN AT BAT BY BOBBY

"I may not be the greatest Yankee, but Iam the proudest!"- Billy No.1

by StrappedYankee on Sep 21, 2007 10:22 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Re: Game #153 -- Toronto Blue Jays at New York Yan

Well, we'll see if my above prediction is right...

by PsiFighter37 on Sep 21, 2007 10:23 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

JOBA TIME?

"I may not be the greatest Yankee, but Iam the proudest!"- Billy No.1

by StrappedYankee on Sep 21, 2007 10:24 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Re: JOBA TIME?

Calm down with the caps, dude.

by PsiFighter37 on Sep 21, 2007 10:24 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

This is a good time for the curve

by anaconda on Sep 21, 2007 10:37 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Re: This is a good time for the curve

He threw it again? Sweet. It's a pretty sick pitch, too.

by PsiFighter37 on Sep 21, 2007 10:38 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Re: This is a good time for the curve

Nope. All sliders.

by anaconda on Sep 21, 2007 10:38 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Gotta love that slider

But I would like to see him throw the fastball more often.

by anaconda on Sep 21, 2007 10:38 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

New York Yankees

Lets win it for Joba!

"I may not be the greatest Yankee, but Iam the proudest!"- Billy No.1

by StrappedYankee on Sep 21, 2007 10:38 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Re: Game #153 -- Toronto Blue Jays at New York Yan

Stay classy Red Sux fans...check this shit out:

Assholes. God I hate that fat f*ck. The first time Daddy saw him in pinstripes. YEEEECCCCCHHHHHH.

You'd think they'd learn after FIVE SLIDERS to lay off that pitch.
Oh shut up. Time for Harlan to grab a cigge now and fire up that emphysema.

Hey Joba's dad- it's called a *ing toothbrush you **ing hick ***.

That is really fuckin' low.

by PsiFighter37 on Sep 21, 2007 10:40 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Classy, indeed

I'm glad the Red Sox have a new nemesis.

It makes it that much more fun when Joba dominates them in the upcoming years.

by anaconda on Sep 21, 2007 10:42 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Re: Classy, indeed

That's disgusting, though. Even if I hate someone (e.g. Ortiz, Pedro), I don't go hating on their family.

Whatever...

by PsiFighter37 on Sep 21, 2007 10:44 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Re: Classy, indeed

What do you expect? This kind of stuff is nothing new.

Their team is imploding and their best hitter doesn't want to play.

Right now, hating Joba and his dad is the one thing that makes these punks feel better.

by anaconda on Sep 21, 2007 10:49 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Re: Game #153 -- Toronto Blue Jays at New York Yan

Damn, Joba is making them miss a lot tonight.

by PsiFighter37 on Sep 21, 2007 10:50 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Joba threw the fastball

a lot more that inning. Great job.

by anaconda on Sep 21, 2007 10:52 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Re: Game #153 -- Toronto Blue Jays at New York Yan

Let's win it here...don't want to put in Farnsworthless or Viz. Maybe they'd go to Ohlendorf?

by PsiFighter37 on Sep 21, 2007 10:52 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

I would think Viz

by anaconda on Sep 21, 2007 10:53 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Re: Game #153 -- Toronto Blue Jays at New York Yan

Good pitch selection Giambino. Way to take pitches.

by BillyBobisdrunk on Sep 21, 2007 10:56 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Giambi drove in the tying run

on the first pitch in the 9th. He tried to end it with a dinger.

by anaconda on Sep 21, 2007 10:58 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Re: Game #153 -- Toronto Blue Jays at New York Yan

Accardo has only thrown 24 pitches...think he'll be out for a 3rd inning?

by PsiFighter37 on Sep 21, 2007 10:59 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Re: Game #153 -- Toronto Blue Jays at New York Yan

15 pitches for Viz, not out of the inning yet. He's only going 1...

by PsiFighter37 on Sep 21, 2007 11:11 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Re: Game #153 -- Toronto Blue Jays at New York Yan

If it goes 14, who comes in next?

"God, I just love baseball." - Robert Redford in The Natural

by uflyibuy on Sep 21, 2007 11:12 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Re: Game #153 -- Toronto Blue Jays at New York Yan

Right now, I'm worried about Viz getting out of this inning.

by PsiFighter37 on Sep 21, 2007 11:14 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Re: Game #153 -- Toronto Blue Jays at New York Yan

Nice start by the Captain...let's finish it.

by PsiFighter37 on Sep 21, 2007 11:21 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Would you

pitch to Arod this late in a game?

Eleven wins in October...

by Edwantsacracker on Sep 21, 2007 11:24 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Re: Would you

Apparently so...

by PsiFighter37 on Sep 21, 2007 11:25 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

I take it back

Matsui is 5 for his last 20

Alex is 2 for his last 22

Eleven wins in October...

by Edwantsacracker on Sep 21, 2007 11:31 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Re: Game #153 -- Toronto Blue Jays at New York Yan

I'm not watching on TV, so I have no idea who's up...I would probably pitch Ohlendorf next. Maybe Farnsworthless, but I would imagine Joe wants someone for tomorrow's game.

by PsiFighter37 on Sep 21, 2007 11:26 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Re: Game #153 -- Toronto Blue Jays at New York Yan

Who is warming up?

by BillyBobisdrunk on Sep 21, 2007 11:27 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Enter number 33

Brian Bruney

Eleven wins in October...

by Edwantsacracker on Sep 21, 2007 11:34 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Re: Game #153 -- Toronto Blue Jays at New York Yan

And it's now up to Jose Molina. Heh.

by PsiFighter37 on Sep 21, 2007 11:31 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Marathon

This is not what we needed out of this game. I hate to say it, but we might have been better off losing in 9 than playing a marathon.

Now that we're here though, and we've spent all of these resources, we really need to win this one.

"God, I just love baseball." - Robert Redford in The Natural

by uflyibuy on Sep 21, 2007 11:33 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Re: Marathon

This is a dumb comment. Not only did the general point not make sense (better to lose? heh?), but you contradicted yourself.

by mwilli on Sep 21, 2007 11:35 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Re: Marathon

It makes obvious sense to anyone with half a brain. In the hypothetical, the team might have been better off losing a 9-inning game than winning what may amount to a 14, 15, 16...-inning game. We have a playoff spot pretty much wrapped up and we have guys who need rest.

The comparison is one of a hypothetical vs. reality. Would you rather tap all of your resources and win, say, a 16-inning game, or lose one game and save your resources?

"God, I just love baseball." - Robert Redford in The Natural

by uflyibuy on Sep 21, 2007 11:44 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs