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Game #148 -- New York Yankees at Boston Red Sox

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New York Yankees

Johnny Damon,  LF
Derek Jeter,  SS
Bobby Abreu,  RF
Alex Rodriguez,  3B
Jorge Posada,  C
Hideki Matsui,  DH
Jason Giambi,  1B
Robinson Cano,  2B
Melky Cabrera,  CF

Chien-Ming Wang,  RHP  (18-6,  3.69)


Boston Red Sox

Dustin Pedroia,  2B
Kevin Youkilis,  1B
David Ortiz,  DH
Mike Lowell,  3B
J.D. Drew,  RF
Jason Varitek,  C
Eric Hinske,  LF
Coco Crisp,  CF
Julio Lugo,  SS

Josh Beckett,  RHP  (18-6,  3.27)


Last night's dramatic comeback win was eerily similar to their first meeting of the season, albeit with opposite results.

Yanks have won five-straight games against the Red Sox and lead the season series 9-7 after dropping the first 5 of 6.

Wang has solid overall numbers against the Red Sox (5-4, 4.27 in 10 starts), but he has been especially good this season (3-1, 3.24 in 4 starts).  Beckett has been pounded by the Yanks during his career (3-3, 7.49 in 7 starts) and this season is no different (1-1, 5.49 in 3 starts).

Something here has to give.  Wang is 7-0, 2.83 ERA with 5 days' rest this season while Beckett is 8-1, 2.66 ERA in day games.

Lifetime numbers vs. Beckett:

A-Rod: .300 (6-20, HR)  Jeter: .300 (6-20)  Melky: .368 (7-19)  Cano: .400 (6-15, HR)  Giambi: .385 (5-13, 2 HR)  Posada: .462 (6-13)

While rummaging through enough stats to make my head spin, I found this tidbit to be pretty startling and somewhat demoralizing if you are a member of RSN:

The mighty Red Sox starting pitchers have thrown a grand total of ONE quality start (6 IP, 3 ER or less) against the Yankee offense in 16 games this season (Schilling on 8/30).  Too bad the Red Sox were shutout that game, 5-0.

In case you're wondering, Yankee pitchers have thrown six quality starts against the Red Sox offense (and does not include Kei Igawa's six shutout innings in relief of Jeff Karstens after breaking his leg in the 1st inning).

Finally, the featured graphic for today's game is the 3rd Grade yearbook photo of Red Sox Nation's boy wonder, Theo Nathan Epstein.

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be another awesome game today, go yanks!

by bronxbombers123 on Sep 15, 2007 2:59 PM EDT reply actions  

Ready!
Go Wang. No. 19.
Lets play Billy Ball!

by StrappedYankee on Sep 15, 2007 3:13 PM EDT reply actions  

Theo
looks like a kid I used to beat up for his lunch money.  Wait a second.  What school did Theo go to?  

by BillyBobisdrunk on Sep 15, 2007 3:26 PM EDT reply actions  

Wang Controversy
Wang was 19-6 last season, finishing a distant second to the Twins' Johan Santana for the Cy Young. Wang is 3-1 against the Red Sox this season; Beckett is 1-1 against the Yankees. Whether he gets it or not? Who cares. Winning the Big One is priceless!!! Mission 27 is still alive thanks to his performance.
"Billy, you are hired." George.

by StrappedYankee on Sep 15, 2007 3:40 PM EDT reply actions  

Giambi on first again?
With all those ground balls? St. Joe, what are you thinking?
"Billy, you are hired." George.

by StrappedYankee on Sep 15, 2007 4:11 PM EDT reply actions  

I think this is the right move
Giambi has knocked Beckett around and Damon had 4 hits last night.

Yeah, the defense takes a hit, but the offense is motoring against Red Sox pitching.

by anaconda on Sep 15, 2007 4:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

No problem with offense.
Scared to death of defense.
"Billy, you are hired." George.

by StrappedYankee on Sep 15, 2007 4:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

30 pitches for Beckett
in the 1st inning.  

Too bad Matsui swung at the first pitch after Beckett walked two straight hitters before him.

Not smart.

by anaconda on Sep 15, 2007 4:15 PM EDT reply actions  

Ahhhhhhh
Giambi heartstopper. Whewww
"Billy, you are hired." George.

by StrappedYankee on Sep 15, 2007 4:26 PM EDT reply actions  

Fox announcers
I love how they are talking about the sun field in right and how its just another one of those fenway quirks-newsflash if this game was played at a normal time during the day its not an issue.

At least Joe buck isnt involved in this broadcast.

by seanp23 on Sep 15, 2007 4:26 PM EDT reply actions  

Today's broadcast is worse than usual
We all agree that Tim McCarver is the worst, but I'm in the minority with Joe Buck because I think he's fine.

Josh Lewin, however, I could do without.

by anaconda on Sep 15, 2007 4:36 PM EDT reply actions  

Jeez. Cheesy Sox jacket
We want equal time!
"Billy, you are hired." George.

by StrappedYankee on Sep 15, 2007 4:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

Wang Settling.
1,2,3
"Billy, you are hired." George.

by StrappedYankee on Sep 15, 2007 4:39 PM EDT reply actions  

Nice comeback inning for Wang
his slider looked pretty sharp that inning.

Seems like he was "too strong" in the 1st inning after the 5 days of rest.

by anaconda on Sep 15, 2007 4:40 PM EDT reply actions  

I guess I'm not too hip
on current pop culture because I had no idea who the hell Dane Cook was until they said he's in the new movie with Jessica Alba.

by anaconda on Sep 15, 2007 4:47 PM EDT reply actions  

who knew?
"Billy, you are hired." George.

by StrappedYankee on Sep 15, 2007 4:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

if it wasn't for the 8th last night...
i'd say our team is kind of slumping offensively

by DrewSD on Sep 15, 2007 4:57 PM EDT reply actions  

gotta wonder
If Papelbon is even available today?

by DrewSD on Sep 15, 2007 4:57 PM EDT reply actions  

I hate Macarver
I am going to mute it right now.  And listen to the game on ESPN Radio.

by BillyBobisdrunk on Sep 15, 2007 4:57 PM EDT reply actions  

black hole
Here on the west coast we can't even watch the game.  Stupid Dodgers

by DrewSD on Sep 15, 2007 5:00 PM EDT reply actions  

A walk
is certainly better than a home run anyday

by DrewSD on Sep 15, 2007 5:01 PM EDT reply actions  

WTF
is Posada calling so many off speed pitches?

by John Amato on Sep 15, 2007 5:05 PM EDT reply actions  

Ok ok ok ....
just breathe just breathe

by DrewSD on Sep 15, 2007 5:07 PM EDT reply actions  

No harm, no foul
but his pitch count took a hit that inning:

46 in 3 IP

That's still pretty good when you consider he threw about 23 pitches that inning.

by anaconda on Sep 15, 2007 5:08 PM EDT reply actions  

I think sometimes
Posada is just way too stubborn in calling pitches

by DrewSD on Sep 15, 2007 5:08 PM EDT reply actions  

Ha ha
Captain Tek popped out. Demote him.
"Billy, you are hired." George.

by StrappedYankee on Sep 15, 2007 5:09 PM EDT reply actions  

WOW
Somebody wearing an Expos hat!!!!!

by BillyBobisdrunk on Sep 15, 2007 5:09 PM EDT reply actions  

big fan
of the redhead yanks fan behind home plate.

by narcpress on Sep 15, 2007 5:12 PM EDT reply actions  

yikes
He just did a # on Hideki

by DrewSD on Sep 15, 2007 5:14 PM EDT reply actions  

Holy mother
Same thing on Gambino

by DrewSD on Sep 15, 2007 5:16 PM EDT reply actions  

WTF
That ump is calling them all over the place.

by GrandEd on Sep 15, 2007 5:16 PM EDT reply actions  

Damn.
That bow legged so and so got Giambi.
"Billy, you are hired." George.

by StrappedYankee on Sep 15, 2007 5:16 PM EDT reply actions  

These umps
have lost their minds this year ....both teams were seriously frustrated last night

by DrewSD on Sep 15, 2007 5:17 PM EDT reply actions  

Hate this biased network.
Always pumping up the RSN.
"Billy, you are hired." George.

by StrappedYankee on Sep 15, 2007 5:19 PM EDT reply actions  

Ok
I almost crapped my pants on that one

by DrewSD on Sep 15, 2007 5:19 PM EDT reply actions  

It's so perfect that Beckett went to the Red Sox
I love it when guys who are already assholes go to Boston, it makes the allegiances so much easier (examples: Schilling, Beckett, etc.) Sort of the opposite of when guys like Randy Johnson and Clemens come to the Yankees.

Yeah, Beckett's a prick (but at least he keeps his (perhaps) shitty politics to himself, right Schilling?) Wouldn't want him on my team, and I mean that whether we're talking Yankees or fantasy.

by narcpress on Sep 15, 2007 5:20 PM EDT reply actions  

Melky !
He should be in the highlight reel weekly.
"Billy, you are hired." George.

by StrappedYankee on Sep 15, 2007 5:21 PM EDT reply actions  

I hate the SOB.
But, Beckett is throwing a good game.  High pitch count, 85 or so through 5, but only 1 base runner since the 1st inning.

by GrandEd on Sep 15, 2007 5:30 PM EDT reply actions  

85 pitches for Beckett
He's got another 30-35 pitches left in him because Tito is probably going to let him go as long as possible.

by anaconda on Sep 15, 2007 5:32 PM EDT reply actions  

Suck it up, Red Sux
What the hell are they chanting?

by PsiFighter37 on Sep 15, 2007 5:38 PM EDT reply actions  

He took a dive
Watch for some brush backs from the Sox pitchers.

by GrandEd on Sep 15, 2007 5:39 PM EDT reply actions  

ha
"why do the yankees hate me?"

by narcpress on Sep 15, 2007 5:39 PM EDT reply actions  

Although it wasn't intentional
you can bet your ass that Beckett is going to drill Jeter or A-Rod -- probably A-Rod.

by anaconda on Sep 15, 2007 5:40 PM EDT reply actions  

YOuk
walked into it. Tough. ;)
"Billy, you are hired." George.

by StrappedYankee on Sep 15, 2007 5:40 PM EDT reply actions  

Giambi SUCKS
"Billy, you are hired." George.

by StrappedYankee on Sep 15, 2007 5:42 PM EDT reply actions  

Doesn't make sense
Wang is a groundball pitcher; why are they having their worst 1B out there?

by PsiFighter37 on Sep 15, 2007 5:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

yeah
that grand slam the other night and last night's rally starter sucked, too

by narcpress on Sep 15, 2007 5:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

Is mcCarver Serious?
clutch ground ball for david ortiz.

by seanp23 on Sep 15, 2007 5:43 PM EDT reply actions  

Nice
Clutch out there.

by PsiFighter37 on Sep 15, 2007 5:44 PM EDT reply actions  

Fuck
That sucks

by PsiFighter37 on Sep 15, 2007 5:45 PM EDT reply actions  

hmm, who saw that coming?
jd drew with a clutch hit?

by narcpress on Sep 15, 2007 5:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

Jorge is calling a crappy game
He's got Wang throwing all of that high stuff, and inside.  Their teeing off on him.

by GrandEd on Sep 15, 2007 5:49 PM EDT reply actions  

What the hell was that
Jeter and A-Rod first-pitch swinging.

What the fuck.

by PsiFighter37 on Sep 15, 2007 5:55 PM EDT reply actions  

Damn.
That was quick. WE NEED RUNS.
"Billy, you are hired." George.

by StrappedYankee on Sep 15, 2007 5:55 PM EDT reply actions  

Damn....
they just gave Beckett another inning of work.

by anaconda on Sep 15, 2007 5:56 PM EDT reply actions  

Shit
This isn't going well.

by PsiFighter37 on Sep 15, 2007 5:58 PM EDT reply actions  

Ugh
Must be bad pitches being called. Wang has had 2 strikes on all of these guys, and they are all getting hits.

by PsiFighter37 on Sep 15, 2007 6:01 PM EDT reply actions  

THANKS
JOHNNYYYYYYYYYYYYY
"Billy, you are hired." George.

by StrappedYankee on Sep 15, 2007 6:02 PM EDT reply actions  

A strikeout would be nice
Another 2-strike count...please don't give up a hit.

by PsiFighter37 on Sep 15, 2007 6:04 PM EDT reply actions  

With Giambi on first
no one throws over. Scared.
"Billy, you are hired." George.

by StrappedYankee on Sep 15, 2007 6:04 PM EDT reply actions  

SUCK it, SOX
Fuckers.

by PsiFighter37 on Sep 15, 2007 6:06 PM EDT reply actions  

YEAH!
"Billy, you are hired." George.

by StrappedYankee on Sep 15, 2007 6:06 PM EDT reply actions  

Damn....
he took a freaking shot.

by anaconda on Sep 15, 2007 6:07 PM EDT reply actions  

Shit
Is Fat Papi the next batter?

by PsiFighter37 on Sep 15, 2007 6:10 PM EDT reply actions  

Ugh
Fuck, just fuck.

by PsiFighter37 on Sep 15, 2007 6:10 PM EDT reply actions  

He was out, too
Posada blocked the plate.

Fucking useless umps.

by PsiFighter37 on Sep 15, 2007 6:14 PM EDT reply actions  

he struggles in big games
every    single    time

he had the ball up all day long. and how do "sloppy" players affect his ability (or lack thereof) to throw a strike?

by narcpress on Sep 15, 2007 6:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

Cause Yanks dont score when he is on.
He can't pitch a perfect game each time out.
"Billy, you are hired." George.

by StrappedYankee on Sep 15, 2007 6:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

Lets see
Errors Giambi on first. Runners running free no one will throw to first. Posada lousy call game. Forgets to tag runner. Should I go on. Sooner or later The Sox will take advantage.
"Billy, you are hired." George.

by StrappedYankee on Sep 15, 2007 6:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

He is just terrible at Fenway
He shit the bed big time today. The box score is ugly enough, but that doesn't really reflect on how poorly he actually pitched.

As much as I despise the prick, you have to tip your cap to Beckett today. He was pretty nasty.

Fear the Evil Empire

by pfistyunc on Sep 15, 2007 7:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

Big inning
Knock out that hick Bitchket.

by BillyBobisdrunk on Sep 15, 2007 6:19 PM EDT reply actions  

The worst part about today
is that this game might win Beckett the Cy Young. I think I just threw up in my mouth.
Fear the Evil Empire

by pfistyunc on Sep 15, 2007 6:20 PM EDT reply actions  

That was retaliation
First Baseman for First Baseman.

by anaconda on Sep 15, 2007 6:26 PM EDT reply actions  

Too bad
they didn't hit Giambi hard enough to take him out.
"Billy, you are hired." George.

by StrappedYankee on Sep 15, 2007 6:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

mmm hmm
clearly we don't need his offense. he can't dh if his elbow's hurt either, genius.

by narcpress on Sep 15, 2007 6:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

BRAINLESS JOE
should DH the asshole.
"Billy, you are hired." George.

by StrappedYankee on Sep 15, 2007 6:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

To reiterate
HE CAN"T DH IF HE'S HURT, GENIUS.

by narcpress on Sep 15, 2007 6:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

If Giambi is hurt
then sit his fat ass down. We got others who can do it for him.
"Billy, you are hired." George.

by StrappedYankee on Sep 15, 2007 6:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

Uh-huh
And you're calling Joe brainless?

by narcpress on Sep 15, 2007 6:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

Why not
Shelley?
"Billy, you are hired." George.

by StrappedYankee on Sep 15, 2007 6:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

I don't have a problem with that
It is kind of refreshing to see teams settle it like they should.
Fear the Evil Empire

by pfistyunc on Sep 15, 2007 7:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

What a fucking asshole
I knew that was coming

by narcpress on Sep 15, 2007 6:26 PM EDT reply actions  

Beckett at 108 pitches
After last night, it wouldn't shock me if he went out to start the 8th.

by anaconda on Sep 15, 2007 6:30 PM EDT reply actions  

I doubt it
Timlin will come in.  If they stick with Beckett, might see a Pedro meltdown.

by BillyBobisdrunk on Sep 15, 2007 6:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

Awesome
Why is Villone still on the team?

by BillyBobisdrunk on Sep 15, 2007 6:42 PM EDT reply actions  

I think the Yanks take 2 of 3 this weekend
Schilling always gets shelled by the Yankees at Fenway these days, usually both before and after running his mouth about something or other (like what a genius his president is).

by narcpress on Sep 15, 2007 6:47 PM EDT reply actions  

Henn
can we find someone worse?
"Billy, you are hired." George.

by StrappedYankee on Sep 15, 2007 6:59 PM EDT reply actions  

Henn
Can anyone explain to me how he gets paid to play baseball? I have about as much to offer a MLB club as he does.
Fear the Evil Empire

by pfistyunc on Sep 15, 2007 7:01 PM EDT reply actions  

Every village has one, folks
Damn, you are right. It is almost impossible to imagine how he was won 18 games pitching for the team with the best offense in baseball. Quite the headscratcher.
Fear the Evil Empire

by pfistyunc on Sep 15, 2007 7:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

Where is the offense?
too much partying?
"Billy, you are hired." George.

by StrappedYankee on Sep 15, 2007 7:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

Give me a break
They've had the best record in MLB since the end of May for a reason.

It's amazing how many people go completely mad and lose all sense of reality when this team loses.

by anaconda on Sep 15, 2007 7:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

Maybe national TV or because its
The Red Sox. A full moon?
"Billy, you are hired." George.

by StrappedYankee on Sep 15, 2007 7:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

It was on national TV last night
and it turned out okay.  

They will be on national tv tomorrow night as well.

A full moon?  

They just beat the Red Sox 5 straight times.  How can one complain about losing today?

by anaconda on Sep 15, 2007 7:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

Now Joe brings out the kids.
Giambi actually sat. Why wait so long?
"Billy, you are hired." George.

by StrappedYankee on Sep 15, 2007 7:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

That's not it
You're just a moron.
Fear the Evil Empire

by pfistyunc on Sep 15, 2007 7:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

No JOe is the moron who plays
like a loser. And you are the asshole who doesn;t get it. ok
"Billy, you are hired." George.

by StrappedYankee on Sep 15, 2007 7:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

You don't get it
they lose by 9 runs and you're gonna complain about the manager?

How about the pitching?  It wasn't Torre who didn't pitch well today.

Wang gave up 5 runs and was often very erratic.  How is that Torre's fault?

by anaconda on Sep 15, 2007 7:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

And the other 5
nice pitcher selection. Hell lets give up 20 runs give up and call it a night. Why jerk us aroung this is Boston not Tampa or Chicago. Too big a deficit to overcome. Hope he takes his pills tomorrow and use Joba if Clemens implodes.
"Billy, you are hired." George.

by StrappedYankee on Sep 15, 2007 7:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

Take a breath
Why would you burn your dependable arms in a game they were losing by 5+ runs late?

Were you complaining about Torre's moves last night when they pulled it out?

It wouldn't have made sense to use the dependable arms.  At least now the bullpen should be in good shape tomorrow with Joba, Viz, and Mo available.

Joba will pitch 2 innings tomorrow if needed.

There are plenty of times I question Torre's bullpen moves, but today is not one of them.

Pick a different fight because this one is a lost cause.  It doesn't hold water.

by anaconda on Sep 15, 2007 8:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

Joe made it a lost cause
the idea I think is to keep games close. That is if you want to win. But it looked to me like Joe gave up early. I think he lacks the killer instinct. But hey lets see, maybe the Yanks can save his job. And the Boss is no longer a threat. So mediocrity rears its ugly head.
"Billy, you are hired." George.

by StrappedYankee on Sep 15, 2007 8:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

Never mind
Torre did the same thing last night and used his other guys.

Were you complaining when this team came back and won?

Just for shits and giggles, please explain exactly what you would have done -- who pitches whatever inning and why.

I'm really trying to understand your point because I'm not seeing it at all.

How exactly is this team is "mediocre" after losing this ballgame?

by anaconda on Sep 15, 2007 8:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

ok look
We have a talented team. But Joe is not managing aggressively. While yesterday the offense took care of Papelbon and co. We can't expect this every time. It will not always happen. When Wang got into trouble , partly due to his high throws and part due to sloppy defense, he should have come out with Bruney, Farns and maybe Mo. Also, if our hitters are not doing it against Beckett why not try switching early some players. The kids have helped us to keep that great record since May.The Red Sox rookies have likewise done it. Lets go with that more. Early not in the eight after a 9 run deficit. Give them every chance to win. Joe has become predictable that's probably his worse sin.
"Billy, you are hired." George.

by StrappedYankee on Sep 15, 2007 8:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

Maybe Mo?
Try and switch early with some players?

Torre stuck with his lineup last night and didn't start replacing people and they pulled that game out.

What kids are you talking about?

Gonzalez?

Shelley Duncan?

Duncan wasn't available because of his hernia.  Gonzalez has a solid glove, but no bat.

I don't have a lot of confidence in Doug Mientkiewicz unless it's his defense late in the game.

We couldn't disagree more on this topic.

by anaconda on Sep 15, 2007 9:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

Fine
But if this continues. I don't think we will get very far. Lets agree to disagree. Good Night.
"Billy, you are hired." George.

by StrappedYankee on Sep 15, 2007 9:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

Don't even bother
This kid is the worst poster in PA history, hands down. Yes, even worse than the crazy homophobe who was only here for about two hours. There is a reason that I instituted the "ignore him" policy and admittedly I have broken my own rule. Hopefully if we ignore him, he will go away again.
Fear the Evil Empire

by pfistyunc on Sep 15, 2007 9:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

Looks like MIN
is trying to make a game of it.  4-3 Tigers Bot 7th

CLE looks like they will hold on.  

by anaconda on Sep 15, 2007 9:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

Fucking Johan
4-0 Detroit already. Damn it.
Fear the Evil Empire

by pfistyunc on Sep 15, 2007 7:44 PM EDT reply actions  

If fucking Joe doesn't get going
The Tigers are going to bite out ass.
"Billy, you are hired." George.

by StrappedYankee on Sep 15, 2007 7:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

I only saw half of an inning
while I was on my break.  The bottom of the 7th.  It took my entire half hour lunch.
And that about covers the game recap.

Win tomorrow and we take the season series.

"Have faith in the Yankees, my son. Think of the great DiMaggio."

by jscape2000 on Sep 15, 2007 11:49 PM EDT reply actions  

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