How bad was ESPN last night?
It was discussed on the game thread last night as we live blogged the Yankee win in the Bronx. I happen to like Morgan and Miller on Sunday's even though a lot of people don't. They made so many factual errors last night that it was really surprising for ESPN's A-team.
They didn't even know Jeter's birthday when they did their big Pete Rose/Derek Jeter hit counter segment...Anyway, I often criticize Michael Kay and the YES crew, but that's more about delivery. They never have their facts and statistics that far off the planet.
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Miller and Morgan
Miller defers to him because he was a Hall of Famer as a player. But as a broadcaster, Morgan is bush league. He never has anything to add to the game other than his own mistakes and egotism.
by Nettles Fan on Jun 18, 2007 5:25 PM EDT reply actions
Keep Joe, Miller must go
by Lucy on Jun 18, 2007 9:03 PM EDT reply actions
Completely
I never said...
by Lucy on Jun 18, 2007 9:22 PM EDT reply actions
I never said Morgan was always right.
"Thank God Joe Morgan is there is set the record straight when it comes to the facts."
You never said it outright, but you sure gave us the impression.
Are you SURE
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by PinstripePowerhouse on Jun 18, 2007 9:53 PM EDT up reply actions
Shame ESPN?
by Lucy on Jun 19, 2007 9:29 AM EDT up reply actions
Clarification...
by Lucy on Jun 18, 2007 9:32 PM EDT reply actions
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by Lucy on Jun 18, 2007 9:39 PM EDT up reply actions
no problem,
Once again...
by Lucy on Jun 18, 2007 9:37 PM EDT reply actions
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So let me get this straight
Mincing words?
I don't like ESPN's broadcasts, never did, and as I said before, I don't listen to everything either one of them say. I certainly don't check any of the stats they present. But my ears perk up when I hear something insulting or ridiculous regarding the Yankees. Lo and behold, it always comes out of Miller's mouth and Joe Morgan always has something worthwhile and credible to say following that. Maybe "justify" and "dignify" aren't the best words to describe the situation from a practical standpoint, but "refute" sounds too adversarial. I hope what I'm saying is clear. Next time, I'll give more specific examples (if I feel it's even worth my time).
by Lucy on Jun 19, 2007 9:23 AM EDT up reply actions
We are repulsed by different things.
Let me give you an example of what I find repulsive about Miller. There was a conversation about Jeter potentially surpassing Rose's record, and Miller said about four times "only if Jeter remains healthy." He just kept repeating this. While this comment may not seem like a big deal on its face, I found it to be resentful. After all, it's a given fact, it goes without saying, that baseball players need to stay healthy to continue playing and achieve success. But then to repeat it several times was uncalled for and, consequently, petty and disgraceful. We should assume good health for all our players. Was there any reason for Miller to assume Jeter would not remain healthy? That was just one example of how Miller can become cheap and irksome.
Evidently different things bother us about ESPN broadcasters, but I'd rather hear a commentator state a wrong fact than suggest ill-health may befall one of our greatest players. When Miller makes petty comments such as this, Morgan almost always states something positive (appearing to take the sting out of Miller's absurd remarks). That's why I like Morgan and don't like Miller.
by Lucy on Jun 19, 2007 9:50 AM EDT up reply actions
I think you
You don't like Morgan
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by PinstripePowerhouse on Jun 19, 2007 10:26 AM EDT up reply actions
Yeah, sounds like you've
Ooopsies...
by Lucy on Jun 19, 2007 11:01 AM EDT up reply actions
Yay!
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by PinstripePowerhouse on Jun 19, 2007 11:03 AM EDT up reply actions
Although...
by Lucy on Jun 19, 2007 11:04 AM EDT up reply actions
Bonds...
Anybody here have any interest in him as a DH?
by AKJoe on Jun 18, 2007 11:19 PM EDT reply actions
ABSOLUTELY NOT
I would seriously
under no circumstances
Flame War
by greenpoint on Jun 19, 2007 12:15 AM EDT reply actions
My friend
He's gone .293/.302/.341.
That has brought his batting line to .267/.316/.360.
Cairo has put together an OBP over .310 once in the last 6 years.
His Value Over Replacement Player (VORP) is at -1.0.
His solid defense is nice. It beats putting Josh "Butcher" Phelps in the field. But I'd bet my cap that Damon could play 1B just as effectively and Phelps could put up a better offensive line as the DH.
Yeah
by yankeechaser on Jun 19, 2007 3:25 AM EDT up reply actions
I'll admit
They are talking using Jorge at first when Nieves catches for Mussina and using Damon as well but Cairo is doing a decent job right now. The fans at YS seem to like him well enough.
They're talking about Jorge
No first base for posada
by yankeechaser on Jun 19, 2007 10:52 AM EDT up reply actions
Agree on no Posada to first
Regardless, Posada isn't the answer at first. We need to target a young stud and sign him.
Cairo
Phelps a goner?
by Lucy on Jun 19, 2007 7:51 PM EDT up reply actions
Yep
Dunno if they'd take him. They have the left-handed version of him in Jay Gibbons.
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by PinstripePowerhouse on Jun 19, 2007 8:00 PM EDT up reply actions
Didn't really get a chance
Phelps doesn't have a choice, though. Girardi does. Taking that job in that organization would be insane. I guess we'll find out soon enough if Girardi chases the money.
I hope ...
I think Girardi is a quality guy with a great deal to offer a team. I wish the Yankees would have something significant for him.
The circumstance
That man's meddling is the worst thing to ever happened to a baseball team.
I think Girardi will take the gig
They have Bedard, Cabrera, and Ray - decent building blocks.
Markakis is a player.
And they have money to spend - lots of it. They just have to spend it the right way, like they did in the late 90's.
The tough part will be convincing established pitchers to come play in that band box.
Cabrera?
He sucks.
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by PinstripePowerhouse on Jun 20, 2007 11:23 AM EDT up reply actions
Okay
Always dangerous to not check stats here, but I think he is also a victim of Camden Yards, where you walk a guy or two and a pop fly turns into 3 runs.
But Bedard and Ray are good.
Yeah, the
George is the best team owner in sports history, period.
I was refering to Angelos
I'm not knocking the man who signs the checks, but his meddling did hurt the team for a decade. Only when he got suspended and Gene Michaels had a chance to rebuild the farm system did things get better.
okay, then
But the
Its hard I guess to balance that drive to win and step away.
Look at Mark Cuban, that guy acts like a jackass, is meddling in his team, but he wants to win more than anyone and will back it up.
What makes
It's obviously much easier
I don't know if Damon will be able to handle it because the reaction time is light years different than playing CF and he doesn't have a load of experience digging balls out of the dirt.
I don't think Damon is going to be much better than Sheffield was last season.
I think Damon
Seems to me
Putting Damon at first would be a disaster akin to the Sheffield experiment. Jorge at first should only happen when Mussina pitches in a NL park. Otherwise, keep Cairo while rotating Phelps every now and then until we trade for a permanent first baseman.
DH
DH can be used for anyone
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by PinstripePowerhouse on Jun 19, 2007 12:00 PM EDT up reply actions
Billy Martin
The memory is fuzzy, but I he batted him 7th. How embarrassing for the 8 & 9 hitters.
Carlos Zambrano and the D-Train are
by AKJoe on Jun 19, 2007 2:25 PM EDT up reply actions
You better stop
by pfistyunc on Jun 19, 2007 2:59 PM EDT up reply actions
Ventriloquism???
Okay, everybody, let's shout in unison now:
Morgan sucks
Off with his head.
There, now I feel better!!!
by Lucy on Jun 19, 2007 11:08 AM EDT reply actions
I forgot...
This is NOT a new thread.
by Lucy on Jun 19, 2007 11:10 AM EDT reply actions
You're....
LOL
by CharlieBrown on Jun 19, 2007 11:18 AM EDT up reply actions
Awww Shucks...
by Lucy on Jun 19, 2007 1:29 PM EDT up reply actions
We've lost him then?
It's a shame. I really thought he had loads of potential.
Too bad his fielding was horrific.
by Lucy on Jun 19, 2007 8:15 PM EDT reply actions

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