A-Rod and the 2008 free-agent class
It's never too early to talk off-season moves here in Yankeeland, so I thought I would reference the list of potential free-agents-to-be upon completion of the 2007 MLB season.
Kudos to MLB Trade Rumors for compiling an updated list of the 2008 free-agent class. It's worth checking out.
More than a few Pinstripe Alley readers have suggested that the Yankees should let A-Rod walk next season and use that freed up cash for front-line starting pitching.
In theory, that doesn't sound like a bad idea except for one thing -- after Carlos Zambrano -- there are no starting pitchers on the market next off-season whom I'd be happy to fork over $15M+ the Yanks would be saving from A-Rod's potential departure.
My guess is that the bidding for Zambrano will start damn near $20M+ and it's certainly a possibility that the Cubs could sign him to a long-term deal before he has the opportunity to test the free-agent waters.
I tend to believe Cashman has learned his lesson in regards to buying 40+ yr old pitchers to help win them a championship (okay, except for Roger Clemens) -- so you can probably cross Curt "I Hate the Yankees" Schilling, Tom Glavine, and John Smoltz from that list of possibilities as well.
Secondly, replacing A-Rod at Third Base with a solid player would be extremely difficult. Disregarding unforeseen trade possibilities, the only Third Basemen available on the market would be Mike Lowell, Mike Lamb, and Pedro Feliz. If these names aren't at least three damn good reasons to keep A-Rod beyond this season, I don't know what is.
Of course, Cashman's first missions at the end of the 2007 season will be to re-sign Mariano Rivera and Jorge Posada -- and I expect both to happen (given that they stay healthy this season) so they can finish their careers in pinstripes. The Yanks could make a run at Ichiro Suzuki or Torii Hunter -- but I believe they will end up staying in Seattle and Minnesota respectively or find homes away from The Bronx.
I felt the need to address this specific topic about letting A-Rod walk in more detail given the passionate debate last week with 183 comments and illustrate the lack of options at the end of the 2007 season. Obviously, it's not that simple to replace the greatest talent of our generation with front-line starting pitching when the market will again be so very thin -- not to mention the other extremely difficult task of replacing him at Third Base with a solid player.
Personally, I would jump at the chance to let A-Rod walk if the Yanks were guaranteed to sign Zambrano. However, we all know that it doesn't work that way and the Yanks will likely be in a colossal dogfight with several other teams bidding for his services.
The next best option for the rotation would probably be Mark Buehrle but I've never been a fan of his and I certainly don't think he's worth the $15M+ they would save from A-Rod's deal.
Your thoughts?
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Zambrano
by pfistyunc on Mar 19, 2007 8:15 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
The Yankees won't "let" him walk
by onehitwonder on Mar 19, 2007 9:37 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Exactly
It's just a question of whether or not he and Boras decide to give them a squeeze.
Letting him go would be foolish, but I don't see ARod accepting an extension mid-season (and I also don't see the Yanks offering one), and it's hard to picture him playing out his current deal.
The Yanks history at dealing with situations like this is to not extend. But since they'd be pretty screwed without him, they might have to break precedent here.
by matthaggs on Mar 19, 2007 9:55 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
What other options?
I don't know what the status is of Miguel Cabrera, but what about a mega-deal shipping A-Rod to Florida for Cabrera and Willis (I'm sure we'd have to part with some pitching--maybe Pavano and someone who can actually pitch). Maybe I'm reaching here...
by Ronster22 on Mar 19, 2007 3:42 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Wouldn't happen
by ReLaunch on Mar 19, 2007 5:09 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Cabrera's going nowhere
If Cabrera ever gets traded, which is unlikely, it will be for prospects, and probably prospects of the Alex Gordon/Phillip Hughes-variety. There is no way the Yanks could ever trade for Cabrera.
by Willton on Mar 19, 2007 5:21 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
And Arod
by jscape2000 on Mar 19, 2007 5:49 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
You serious Clark?
Maybe we can swing a multi-team deal and try to get Cabrera, Willis, Pujols, Hafner, Ichiro, Felix Hernandez, and Halladay for AROD.
FLA would be crazy to deal Miggy for AROD straight up right now, nevermind with Willis.
by wellblessed on Mar 19, 2007 8:32 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
He popped his cherry folks!
by pfistyunc on Mar 19, 2007 8:51 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
In person
by jscape2000 on Mar 19, 2007 10:16 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
No
by pfistyunc on Mar 20, 2007 8:42 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah
by jscape2000 on Mar 20, 2007 9:16 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Wellblessed
If Wellblessed can do this, everyone in Pinstripe Alley land would lovingly embrace him--even the prickly Pfister!
by Ronster22 on Mar 20, 2007 9:17 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
If he could turn Pavano
by pfistyunc on Mar 20, 2007 9:19 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Arod
As disappointing as the guy has been something tells me the second he leaves we will all regret it, especially if he succeeds with his new club as he did during his time in Seattle and Texas.
As for all those possible mega-deals, most teams would be stupid to unload premier young talent, especially to dump payroll in a league where the amount you spend doesn't lead to any type of penalty.
When it comes down to it I think Arod is here to stay, and unless anyone can think of a better option for third (that's realistic) I'd say we're better off.
by Market 8 Dude on Mar 20, 2007 8:12 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Let him go!
Wellblessed, you working on that miracle, or what?
by Ronster22 on Mar 20, 2007 9:49 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
AROD: Interesting Underground Website
Check this out! I came across it last week, just after news broke about A-Rod and his Mike and the Mad Dog comments. Mere coincidence? Either way, it might have a chance if enough Yankee fans really want A-Rod to stay.
by twojax21 on Mar 20, 2007 2:09 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Blog Under Construction...
I'm sorry. I can't take any site seriously that doesn't have a hi-res picture of Jenna Jameson nearby. Frankly, I'm disappointed with projectA13.com... I expected so much more ...
kinda' like Arod himself. Nuff said.
by Ronster22 on Mar 20, 2007 2:38 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Grounders for Melky!
How is this a problem? :)
by scoutingbook on Mar 20, 2007 3:48 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Wow
by pfistyunc on Mar 20, 2007 4:45 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Silly silly me
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2007/writers/jon_heyman/03/21/scoop.wednesday/index.html
by pfistyunc on Mar 21, 2007 12:37 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Hypothetical question
In your opinion, how many years and how much dough would it take to get Arod to accept said extension without testing the market?
I know we've been here before, but even if this was Rivera or Jeter we were talking about, I kind of like it that Cashman is basically saying he's not going to let anyone hold a gun to his head for more money. "if he doesn't like 3 yrs for $81 million he can go fuck himself" is a good message to send to these players & agents. Christ, I know he has the right to do it, but seriously how much is enough? (don't let this paragraph prevent you from answering the question up front - I really am curious to hear what you guys think it might take to keep him from taking other teams' calls)
by matthaggs on Mar 21, 2007 1:40 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
It depends
Just for shits and giggles, I think you offer him 5 years/100 M if he fails to opt out or 8 years 140M if he opts out. Either way, you have to make some overture to try and keep the guy and not lose him for a lousy draft pick. He has the Yankees over a barrel right now and they need to realize that. They read the contract before the trade and, unless they hired wellblessed to review it, they understood this was a possibility. Now they just have to fix it. Also, extending him now would tell the fans that they are retarded and should shut the fuck up, which is long overdue in the Bronx.
by pfistyunc on Mar 21, 2007 1:52 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Obviously, I have more confidence in Cashman.....
That wouldn't make a damn bit of sense -- but then again -- it didn't make a damn bit of sense to bid so much cabbage on Kei Igawa either.
Heyman is certainly one of the better baseball writers so his reporting is usually pretty accurate, but I just can't see Cashman sticking up for A-Rod the way he did and then turn around and watch him go somewhere else next year.
by anaconda on Mar 21, 2007 2:26 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I believe Heyman
by pfistyunc on Mar 21, 2007 2:29 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yikes
You can bet he'll be making similar calls about Arod.
If there is anyone who desperately needs to shut the fuck up, it's #13. Not the fans. And if you think he has an image problem now, wait until he publicly announces that $81 million isn't enough for him. Can't wait for that one.
If the '05 version shows up here again, he'll be fine. Remember the curtain calls and the "MVP" chants? I do.
by matthaggs on Mar 21, 2007 2:20 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
That cuts both ways
If A-Rod opted out to play in Anaheim and winds up breaking Bonds' record and/or reaching several other historic milestones I think the only place that will fault him is New York. Besides, he will be able to spin his opt-out as a happiness issue and not a money issue, espeically when he takes less in AAV in his new deal; I guarantee you that he won't get 81M in the first three years of his new contract so it will be pretty easy to say that he left because of the absurd treatment he received.
It is a sad, sad situation overall. The fans are completely to blame here and Cashman can step up and remedy the situation. The fact that he chooses not to do so is just further evidence of his rampant incompetence.
by pfistyunc on Mar 21, 2007 2:37 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think it depends
And he can break all the records he wants somewhere else, but if he never wins it will leave a giant ink stain on his legacy. It will be the first question everyone asks him for the rest of his life.
On the other hand, if he has a big year, and a few big moments during a playoff run, he can leave here defiant and tell New York to go screw themselves.
Playing the happiness card won't work because he has already stated several dozen times how happy he is here.
If the clause in his contract did not exist, he would not be seeking a trade from the Yankees. Therefore, the reason he might seek to leave the Yankees would be for one reason and one reason only: more dough.
And I'm sorry, but a guy who announces that $81 million isn't enough for him would be disliked in more than one city.
by matthaggs on Mar 21, 2007 3:02 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I can see those scenarios too
by pfistyunc on Mar 21, 2007 3:11 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
They will win
by ReLaunch on Mar 21, 2007 4:27 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

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