Twins/Rays Trade?

by John Amato on Nov 28, 2007 7:35 PM EST in New York Yankees News

The Twins would acquire outfielder Delmon Young in exchange for right-hander Matt Garza, sources told ESPN.com's Keith Law. The potential swap was first reported by the Minneapolis Star Tribune, which reported the deal could involve as many as six players, with shortstop Jason Bartlett and reliever Juan Rincon going to Tampa Bay in the deal and shortstop Brendan Harris and outfield prospect Jason Pridie coming to Minnesota.

I don't see Young as a center fielder, but how does this effect a trade for Santana? Do the Angels now get a leg up with their extra starting pitchers and minor leaguers? Or will their pursuit of little Manny remove them from the equation?

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This hurts the NYY alot.

The Twins will also acquire Jason Pridie. He seems to be their CF of the future, probably for 2008. He was awesome in AAA last year with a .318/.375/.539 line.

This means Melky is no longer really needed by MIN. I think this means that any trade package from NY would hurt a lot more than if Melky was needed.

by KevinV on Nov 28, 2007 7:53 PM EST reply actions

I think that this means Santana now costs

Hughes/Tabata/Holmes/Jackson
or
Hughes/IPK/Tabata

by KevinV on Nov 28, 2007 7:59 PM EST up reply actions

Way too steep

a price to pay. If they make the D-Ray trade, maybe the asking for Santana will be too great for any team to deal with, making him available for straight-up cash after next season.

by docgonzo on Nov 28, 2007 8:01 PM EST up reply actions

Or...

If some of the other rumors are true, like their potentially moving Morneau and Nathan, they might have the cash to sign him themselves.

If they can flip Moreau to the Angels for Ervin Santana and Casey Kotchman and Nathan to some one for more young talent, maybe the could find room for a 25M player. That would be some damn impressive GM work.

by KevinV on Nov 28, 2007 8:14 PM EST up reply actions

Morneau

will fetch a whole lot more than Kotchman and Santana.

Wood, Adenhart + someone is more like it.

by randomize on Nov 28, 2007 8:57 PM EST up reply actions

if...

if they move an elite closer and a mvp first basemen, santana's going to be bitching about leaving minnesota. his main gripe is that the team isn't committed about winning.

by tombradylikesdudes on Nov 28, 2007 10:39 PM EST up reply actions

Well

Nathan is as good as gone already. Morneau would be a surprise though. I think if MIN gets a ton of the most elite young players in the game to surround their ace who they'll give 120M+/6yrs that shows they are committed to winning in a big way. They got a great haul for Garza and change. If they can do he same or better for Nathan, and they wind up with the money to keep Santana, they will be in very good shape.

by KevinV on Nov 28, 2007 11:09 PM EST up reply actions

True

Yeah you are right he would fetch more than that, just thinking out loud, so to speak.

by KevinV on Nov 28, 2007 11:05 PM EST up reply actions

Who is Holmes?

Fear the Evil Empire

by pfistyunc on Nov 28, 2007 11:11 PM EST up reply actions

Whoops

I meant Horne.

by KevinV on Nov 29, 2007 8:53 AM EST up reply actions

Ummm...

Delmon played CF in the minors I believe. He's certainly fast enough, and good enough of an athlete to play CF.

Pridie is more an adequate in the short term and probably equivalent to Melky offensively.

Lets not forget that the Twins have to unload Nathan as well.

So then can sit on Santana (they have the money to extend him if they like), and ask for 2 blue chip pitchers.

I think instead of Kennedy+Melky+others it becomes: 2 of the trinity or one of the trinity + Cano.

From the Sox: Buchholz + Ellsbury + Lowrie would be the asking price I'd assume.

They can flip Nathan to a team for a CF and 3B and put Neshek in as closer.

This is pretty bad for the Yanks. The asking price is going to be awfully high and it might be best to forget Johan and ask after Haren.

by randomize on Nov 28, 2007 7:59 PM EST reply actions

It also hurts BOS

if they're really not willing to give up Ellsbury, which I suspect is the case - Young will take the zap out of a deal that included Crisp.

As for Santana still being dealt, it looks like the Twins would still be willing:

http://www.startribune.com/blogs/neal/?p=276

The Twins are talking to teams about staff ace Johan Santana and could deal closer Joe Nathan as well.

The Twins would be expected to land at least one starting pitcher if Santana and/or Nathan is dealt. That would make up for the loss of Garza, a top pitching prospect. The Twins also need a center fielder and third baseman.

It was learned on Wednesday that the Twins have shown some interest in free agent center fielder Aaron Rowand, but it's unclear if they've made a contract offer.

by docgonzo on Nov 28, 2007 8:00 PM EST reply actions