Tigers win 4-3
Hats off to the Tigers, they outplayed the Yanks and won a close battle by one run.
Now the rant. Take it for what it's worth:
Posada was horrible behind the plate by allowing two runners at second to get to third with no outs and that cost the Yanks. Detroit converted their base runners and the Yanks did not. The first one was in the dirt, but his passed ball in the seventh set up an easy scoring chance and cost us the lead run.
The big thumpers ( Giambi, Sheff, A-Rod) were a dud and that's why I hated Sheffield coming back. He should not be at first base and his fielding hurt us today. Would Giambi have caught those two liners down the line? Maybe not, but Sheffield is still in spring training mode as a hitter and if his at bats stay this way it's a nightmare.
We could have put Phillips at first and the lineup would have still been as fierce. With Matsui taking Cabrera's spot, he already gave up a huge defensive chip. Joe, instead of going with the better all around team reverts back to the supposed best lineup ever assembled. Well, what happened today?
Mussina choked too because he couldn't minimize his mistakes. They are going to get hits, but he didn't hold them down when they had their chances. He got two quick outs and then gave up back to back hits to allow Detroit to grab the early lead. I thought he would have carved up the Tigers today, but they converted three scoring opportunities. Giving up the home run to Guillen was the big hit. It brought them even and made them believe after Damon's three run blast gave the Yanks the early 3-1 lead.
Why was Jeter bunting a 100 mph fastball after going 5-5? I scratched my head. That cost us an out and there are only 27 to play with.
I would have bunted Cano with two on and no outs in the second even if he's a monster hitter and set up the top of the lineup. It's the playoffs and their bullpen as we just saw is their strength.
MLB was gutless last night. Holding up that game took the incredible night time stadium atmosphere and advantage away and gave the Tigers another day off to collect themselves.
The first pitch to Posada was a foot outside that was called a strike after Matsui got on. Is it too much to ask ESPN to show a replay of it? It changed the whole at bat. ESPN's coverage of the Dodgers/Mets game was horrible yesterday. The announcers had no idea why JD Drew tried to score behind Kent and their crack on field reporters were mum.
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Whaaaaah!
by JaneKnowles on Oct 5, 2006 5:14 PM EDT reply actions
Drop ARod to the 8 spot.
I agree
I hate having Shef back. Instead of a small ball team they become a team waiting for the three run homerun again. I have very little confidence in Sheffield doing any situational hitting.
I am trying very hard to to a Rodriguez fan but for $25 million you gotta be better than 1 for 7. You have to make some contact. Geez to strike out so many times is unbelievable.
Mussina is a good pitcher but he is not a shut the other team down type of guy. Between he money they pay Mussina and Johnson you would think they could get a victory when the Yankees need one.
And when is Cano going to show up? I hope this team is not going to be a great regular season team and not hit in the post season.
MLB was gutless. The fans had to sit there for three hours before they call the game? Shame!
by makjkam on Oct 5, 2006 5:21 PM EDT reply actions
Absurd
Who else here hates Chris Russo?
And another thing....
by JaneKnowles on Oct 5, 2006 6:40 PM EDT reply actions
I wuz there
Obviously the Unit is going to make or break it
many reasons
- I agree with Jeter bunting point -- no idea why he would there, bottom of the first and all, but the whole team hit poorly situationally. That one at bat really changed the first inning, tho.
- There's Joe Torre, won't make a change until it's desperation time. I said it before the series started, I'll say it again, Gary Sheffield hitting fourth is simply stupid. And this series is proving that. He looked no better than Rodriguez, who continues to look like a player trying to get traded away.
Why not put Matsui DH, Giambi at 1st and Cabrera back in left - at the very least you get speed and an arm in the outfield. And against Kenny Rogers, Cabrera can produce (imo).
And natural first baseman get those shots down the line -- SHeff looked offguard and late to react.
But we didn't lose because of sheff; Moose proved once again he's no playoff pitcher - what a weakass performance after getting the lead handed to him.
RJ better pitch the game of his life tomorrow - I really hope we don't have another Kevin Brown - that said, if NY loses game 3, you can kiss this series goodbye.
Maybe they'll smoke Rogers tomorrow.
Giambi can't play first
by pfistyunc on Oct 5, 2006 8:10 PM EDT up reply actions
Didn't know that
So we have three dead bats in the lineup, and we're gonna keep running 'em out there in the hopes that...?
Amending: then put Philips at first, put Cabrera back in left, and leave Matsui DH. At least he's getting base hits and doesn't have to face an overloaded right side every time he's up.
And then our .342 hitter doesn't have to hit ninth. Maybe moving Cano up in the order will help him. (I think he's pressing it at the plate, but he'll break out if it before Arod does).
by detroit yankee on Oct 5, 2006 10:30 PM EDT up reply actions
Phillips is a terrible hitter
by pfistyunc on Oct 5, 2006 11:19 PM EDT up reply actions
Shef
by onehitwonder @ Pinstripe Alley on Oct 6, 2006 9:46 AM EDT up reply actions
it's Sheff or Phillips
Moose wasn't great, but he was equal to Verlander. The difference in the game wasn't pitching. The Yankees offense didn't capitalize on the chances they were handed. Not taking advantage of all those walks early in the game killed them.
Pitching is not going to win this series for the Yankees it's got be the hitting. A-Rod and Sheff or Giambi have to have two monster games in them or it's over. Of those three hitters A-Rod is the only physically healthy guy.
If only we could put Giambi's mind in A-Rod's body.
by collink on Oct 5, 2006 9:36 PM EDT reply actions
Phillips it is!
Watching ARod today was pathetic. Show us something when it counts, already!
True, nobody played great today, but for the love of Lou Gehrig, swing the freakin' bat and at least give yourself a chance to make something happen.
I'm convinced he's gone. I would even throw in Pavano to make it happen!!
No offense man,
After Damon's home run, the Yankees NEVER threatened, while the Tigers scored in three straight innings.
You're right that not taking advantage of the walks hurt NY but that was innings 1 and 2, but NY pitching is going to have to come up with big games because the hitting isn't. And once Mussina had a 2-run lead, it was poor pitching on his part that lost the game.
This series was made for Rodriguez to show his stuff, but it doesn't even look like he's going to show up. Road game might help him, but who knows.
by detroit yankee on Oct 5, 2006 10:38 PM EDT up reply actions
Yankees cannot and will not outpitch
The Yankees have to score more than 3 a game to win.
by collink on Oct 6, 2006 11:57 AM EDT up reply actions
i don't know about that
the bullpen, though, is certainly where Detroit has the edge -- we do need Proctor, Bruney, Farnsworth et al to rise to the occassion.
bottom line, though, is that it's all about the pitching. if we think we're going to outslug the likes of Verlander and Zumaya when they're throwing like they were yesterday -- well, that just ain't going to happen.
by lee on Oct 6, 2006 12:46 PM EDT up reply actions
IF? (Good Randy)
Is the post season like a Kipling poem? But the Tigers have better pitching than the Yankees at least according to the regular season numbers, and what we've seen so far.
3 Runs produced by one player is not enough for the Yankees to win. Now luckily yesterday the hitters saw the best pitchers the Tigers have and the Yankees like you said and now get a chance against the Tigers weak underside.
Let's Go Yankees!
by collink on Oct 6, 2006 1:03 PM EDT up reply actions
yeah, that's a VERY BIG IF
as far as the regular season numbers go, you have to remember that 20% of those games were with the #5 starter and so are totally irrelevant, plus about half of them were against sub-.500 teams which makes them somewhat irrelevant as well.
by lee on Oct 6, 2006 1:20 PM EDT up reply actions
Weak
Even the Captain had a bad day, relatively speaking, with the inexplicable and ill fated bunt from a .340 hitter, and an E-6.
Man, the one thing I hate about the Yankees of the last 3-4 years is this notion that they are going to bash their way to the promised land as punctuated whenever Sheffield and Matsui are out there. Granted, Sheff is tough as nails and Matusi can be cluch, but those guys are meatheads defensively, and Sheff does not have his bat together. The Yanks took the team that had chart topping chemistry off the field (I mean Melky) and went with the Bashers again. When are they going to realize it'll never work.
And Moose. He's just a playoff dud, just like Game 5 last year. A Rod stunk today but Moose has no business criticizing him after 2 straight mediocre playoff starts. He's not a big game pitcher.
As for A-Rod, George's comments about "not liking him" could not be weaker. Fuck George.
I'm going to pour a beer now.
Funny how the Mets
Just a Combo of Everyone
Posada's last at bat was just atrocious. At least go down swinging. I know the first ball wasn't a strike but buck up Jorge, it's the playoffs.
Has anyone done a study on what our record is when Sheffield plays? I remember we started getting hot about the time he got injured. Coincidence? I know he's a HOF'er but there was something about the chemistry when he was out.
He would make a good PH right now. That should be what he's doing. Make him put his ego aside.
All in all, we still almost pulled it out. I mean it wasn't a debacle, just a squandered opportunity. And that Jaret Wright game looms large.
Starting to bite my nails again.
by tarheel_highlander on Oct 5, 2006 11:55 PM EDT reply actions
they outpitched us, pure and simple
meanwhile, i'm watching the St. Louis - San Diego game and the Cards starter throws 5 innings of 2-hit, shutout ball and gets the W. and what a coincidence -- he's got the exact same name as a guy who totally stunk it up for us several years ago. weird, no? :)
by lee on Oct 6, 2006 12:33 AM EDT reply actions
I only caught the last four innings
by JaneKnowles on Oct 6, 2006 11:45 AM EDT up reply actions

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