Is Changing of the Guard in Yankees’ Lineup Premature?
There could be a changing of the guard in the Yankees' lineup this season. In one of his early spring gatherings with reporters, Joe Girardi suggested he is considering flip flopping Robinson Cano and Mark Teixeira in the batting order. Presumably, if Girardi hadn't already made up his mind on the matter, he probably wouldn't have been so forthcoming, so it stands to reason the Yankees will have a new number three hitter in 2012.
Cano's ascension to the third slot, which is widely viewed as being reserved for a team's best hitter, isn't surprising. The sweet swinging second baseman has seemed destined for the role since he was first promoted, and in all five games of last year's ALDS, he was entrusted with the position. What makes the potential switch somewhat intriguing, however, is the incumbent number three hitter is not only still with the team, but also remains within the fringe of his prime.
Year-by-Year Progression of Yankees' Third Place Hitters, Since 1919 (click to enlarge)
Source: Baseball-reference.com
Although the hand off from Cano to Teixeira won't be as symbolic as the transfer from Don Mattingly to Paul O'Neill in 1994, it will bring an end to one of the longer runs batting third in franchise history. Only four other Yankees were used as the primary third place hitter in more consecutive seasons than Teixeira, and his 440 starts ranks ninth all time. And, with a line of .268/.366/.518 in those games, the Yankees' first baseman did more than just take up space. So, if Cano is the heir apparent, he'll have big shoes to fill.
Yankees' Top-10 Third Place Hitters, Ranked by Career Starts, Since 1919
Source: Baseball-reference.com
Putting aside the historical implications, does the decision to swap Cano and Teixeira make sense? As a perennial .300 hitter who uses all fields, Cano seems to best fit the profile of a third place hitter. However, it should be noted that over the past three seasons, the two hitters have had nearly identical slugging and on-base percentages (.361/.529 for Cano vs. .363/.514 for Teixeira). In other words, unless the move is predicated upon a divergence in expectations for the future, past performance suggests the switch will only be cosmetic.
Yankees' LH vs. RH Splits, 2009-2011
Source: fangraphs.com
From a strategic standpoint, some have suggested that Teixeira's recent struggles against right handers best supports the decision, especially because Cano has no adverse platoon split. In fact, that was the logic Girardi used to justify making the switch before the post season. Again, the reasoning is sound on the surface, but does it hold up under scrutiny?
Curtis Granderson had an outstanding season against lefties in 2011 (wOBA of .400), but he has historically struggled against them (career wOBA of .301). Although it's entirely possible that Granderson has turned a corner against southpaws, some regression is probably likely. Meanwhile, over the last two seasons, Alex Rodriguez has developed a significant reverse platoon split. If opposing managers are thinking along those lines, Teixeira's presence in the three-hole could deter them from bringing in a lefty late in the game, or at least give the first baseman an opportunity to bat from his stronger side in key situations. On the other hand, because Cano is unaffected by splits, his position in the three-hole would make an opposing manager's decision much easier. What's more, if Teixeira is moved to fifth and Nick Swisher remains in the sixth slot, it would stack up switch hitters who each perform better from the right side of the plate, which would once again make the opposing manager's life a little easier. If the statistical difference between Cano and Teixeira is minimal, perhaps this end-game consideration should be given more weight?
Over the years, there have been several studies suggesting that lineup construction exhibits minimal correlation to run production. However, batting orders mean something, not only to the fans in the stands, but the players in the clubhouse. What might seem like only a cosmetic change has the potential to bruise egos, so Girardi has to proceed carefully. Then again, maybe he doesn't have to make an either/or decision. The third slot in the batting order is usually considered a permanent position, but would a platoon be so bad? If the goal is to bat the team's most productive hitter third, that might be the best way to go.
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by I'mGivingYouARaise on Feb 25, 2012 2:44 PM EST reply actions
He'd pass Teixeira on the basepaths on double plays.
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As far as the saving the 3rd spot for the best player
Paul O’Neill is my favorite player ever (sorry, Longoria, I still love you, baby), but Bernie Williams was a faaaaar superior batter, but O’Neill batted 3rd with Williams 4th.
What’s the deal?
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by TheLoneDavid on Jan 10, 2012 12:31 PM CST
O’Neill and Tino both had poor splits vs. lefties, so Bernie, who crushed lefties batted in-between them to neutralize lefty relievers late in games.
But yeah, the best hitter doesn’t have to bat 3rd. It depends what the rest of your lineup looks like.
by Let's Talk About Tex Baby on Feb 26, 2012 10:54 AM EST up reply actions
Thanks.
Didn’t think of splitting up the lefties.
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by TheLoneDavid on Jan 10, 2012 12:31 PM CST
by SandalsNoPants on Feb 26, 2012 12:15 PM EST up reply actions
Maybe you should…Think, I mean.
A baseball park is the one place where a man's wife doesn't mind his getting excited over somebody else's curves.
MODS!
Cherington has taken off his pants and he’s shitting all over my hopes for 2012
by TheLoneDavid on Jan 10, 2012 12:31 PM CST
by SandalsNoPants on Feb 26, 2012 1:26 PM EST up reply actions
Small point
Might give him an extra AB. Probably minimal in the grand scheme, I suppose.
I like the move. I’d prefer the most complete hitter in your lineup batting third. Teixeira’s batting average has dipped far too low in my mind to be considered the more complete hitter in comparison to Cano. My only real question is, why was this move made just for the postseason. Why not earlier?
Its like the Rays giving Matt Moore a playoff start. If you think that highly of him why wasn’t he brought up earlier? I don’t think he proved that much in just a few major league starts in September. Could have cost them a playoff birth.
Wait, what?
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by TheLoneDavid on Jan 10, 2012 12:31 PM CST
by SandalsNoPants on Feb 25, 2012 7:42 PM EST up reply actions
He’s saying the Rays should have brought Matt Moore up earlier in the season if they thought highly enough of him that he’d get a playoff spot, and that not bringing him up in say July or August could have come back to bite them in the ass.
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by Frank Campagnola on Feb 25, 2012 9:45 PM EST up reply actions
Thanks.
That’s dumb, though, unless he has is living in a cave and doesn’t understand why the Rays leave their prospects in the minors for so long.
Cherington has taken off his pants and he’s shitting all over my hopes for 2012
by TheLoneDavid on Jan 10, 2012 12:31 PM CST
by SandalsNoPants on Feb 25, 2012 9:52 PM EST up reply actions
Sorry to go off topic, but I figured nobody would go back to that story and it's about to fall to the second page...
You should take eleven minutes out of your day
Sports Illustrated’s Will Carroll appeared on WEEI yesterday and revealed that Braun’s defense was not simply about a breach in the chain-of-custody. According to his source, when the circumstances of the chain-of-custody were repeated by the defense, a second control sample tested similarly to Braun’s.
http://mlb.sbnation.com/2012/2/25/2824087/not-a-technicality
by MichaelGGBGrabow on Feb 25, 2012 7:43 PM EST reply actions
among many questions I have about this story
One of my top question is: why would anyone put a cup of another man’s piss in their refrigerator? Doesn’t he keep food in there?
by long time listener on Feb 25, 2012 8:00 PM EST up reply actions
it's not like he is pouring it on his food.
having a sealed container of anything in your fridge won’t hurt your food.
Cherington has taken off his pants and he’s shitting all over my hopes for 2012
by TheLoneDavid on Jan 10, 2012 12:31 PM CST
by SandalsNoPants on Feb 25, 2012 8:08 PM EST up reply actions
Still too yucky for me.
Anything? You’d trust anthrax next to your chicken salad as long as it was sealed properly?
by MichaelGGBGrabow on Feb 25, 2012 8:10 PM EST up reply actions
Yeah, probably.
Cherington has taken off his pants and he’s shitting all over my hopes for 2012
by TheLoneDavid on Jan 10, 2012 12:31 PM CST
by SandalsNoPants on Feb 25, 2012 8:20 PM EST up reply actions
If you only knew
what’s in fast food burger meat…
A baseball park is the one place where a man's wife doesn't mind his getting excited over somebody else's curves.
Racist.
The general attitude of the preceding comment is frowned upon by upper management.
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by Jedi Master A-Rod on Feb 25, 2012 8:32 PM EST up reply actions
nevertheless
It was another person’s urine in close proximity to his food supply. Not that his own urine would have been a great improvement.
by long time listener on Feb 25, 2012 8:14 PM EST up reply actions
Remember the scene from Little Monsters where Howie Mandel’s character peed in the bully’s glass?
by MichaelGGBGrabow on Feb 25, 2012 8:09 PM EST up reply actions
I’ve read he kept it in the basement, not the fridge.
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by Frank Campagnola on Feb 25, 2012 9:46 PM EST up reply actions
Yep, I’ve read basement, fridge and a “cold/dark place”
by MichaelGGBGrabow on Feb 26, 2012 2:25 PM EST up reply actions
I read that they had somehow been able to argue that they could repeat the results, but I never really heard how. That’s crazy.
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by WhatwouldJeterdo on Feb 25, 2012 8:10 PM EST up reply actions
I really want more information on this to come out.
by MichaelGGBGrabow on Feb 25, 2012 8:28 PM EST up reply actions
If they can show exactly how the results were repeated, I’d hope that people would get off his back, but I somehow doubt it.
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"Sometimes you win, sometimes you lose, sometimes it rains"
by WhatwouldJeterdo on Feb 25, 2012 8:32 PM EST up reply actions
They won't
It’s easier to scream “steroids” than to you know…think.
It sucks for Braun because he’s going to have this stain the rest of his career even though there’s a decent chance he did nothing wrong. And if he keeps going at the rate he’s going, there are clown writers who won’t vote for him for the HOF.
If I were Braun and MLB keeps going with its current stance, I’d sue the hell out of them over the initial leak.
by Let's Talk About Tex Baby on Feb 26, 2012 10:59 AM EST up reply actions
You and me, both. He mentioned ongoing litigation in his press conference, so I hope that he’s pursuing that to the fullest extent he can. Whether it’s finding out who leaked the information and suing them, suing the courier himself, or whatever.
Tweets
"Sometimes you win, sometimes you lose, sometimes it rains"
by WhatwouldJeterdo on Feb 26, 2012 12:09 PM EST up reply actions
also, lol
@ScottMCBS: PED testing in #Athletics camp. A’s had fun each time someone peed: “Get that in the mail! I’d overnight it if I were you!”
by long time listener on Feb 25, 2012 8:16 PM EST up reply actions
I'm pretty annoyed by the widespread opinion that chain of custody is "just a technicality"
It’s a bit more serious than, say, failing to file paperwork by a certain date.
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by Q-TDSK on Feb 25, 2012 10:05 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Context
We haven’t heard anything that would materially affect the outcome of the test, which is all people care about. We got more evidence that humans are stupid. Testosterone doesn’t grow on it’s own.
Most arguments are really about context.
by SheaWasBettor21 on Feb 25, 2012 10:47 PM EST up reply actions
Did you listen to the clip in that link? They’re saying his defense team was able to replicate the results by taking whatever happened to the sample and doing it again.
by MichaelGGBGrabow on Feb 26, 2012 2:28 PM EST up reply actions
Yes.
Tweets
"Sometimes you win, sometimes you lose, sometimes it rains"
by WhatwouldJeterdo on Feb 25, 2012 11:10 PM EST up reply actions
this has happened before in cycling
Belgian triathlete Rutger Beke. Beke was suspended from competition for 18 months in March 2005 by the Flemish Disciplinary Commission after a positive urine test for EPO in September 2004. In August 2005, the Commission reversed its decision and exonerated him based on scientific and medical information presented by Beke. He asserted that his sample had become degraded as a result of bacterial contamination and that the substance identified by the laboratory as pharmaceutical EPO was, in fact, an unrelated protein indistinguishable from pharmaceutical EPO in the test method. He claimed, therefore, that the test had produced a false positive result in his case
incorrect storage can be enough to potentially alter the sample, that’s why it’s a problem. Urine is a biological fluid, bacteria can grow in it, and there are natural cells and enzymes that can change its composition. Maybe. But it allows some doubt, unfortunately.
Research is what I'm doing when I don't know what I'm doing.
And people saying that’s the only reason he got off. We have no idea what happened.
by MichaelGGBGrabow on Feb 26, 2012 2:26 PM EST up reply actions
Cano
He’s been the best hitter on the Yankees for a few years now. The league isn’t good enough to force the Yankees to be efficient, so they can just do whatever they want.
Most arguments are really about context.
by SheaWasBettor21 on Feb 25, 2012 10:54 PM EST reply actions
a few?
with all due respect to Cano, he was not close to the hitters Jeter and Tex were in 2009. It would depend on your defenition of a ‘few’.
How many definitions for a few are there?
Doesn’t it mean 3?
I could be totally wrong, though.
Cherington has taken off his pants and he’s shitting all over my hopes for 2012
by TheLoneDavid on Jan 10, 2012 12:31 PM CST
by SandalsNoPants on Feb 26, 2012 3:28 PM EST up reply actions
Cano is our 2nd best player as of now.
Him batting ahead of A-rod (hopefully a healthy one) is alot scarier than tex.
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Let's Make sure we play like the f***in NEW YORK JETS
and not some f***in slapd**k team!
by jets4life24 on Feb 26, 2012 1:58 AM EST via mobile reply actions
Little effect, if any.
Hopefully the psychological effect will kick Tex in the ass to step it up this year. But this should insure the likelihood of more men on base when Tex bats, which means less shifts against him.
cano batting 3rd
I love it. Cano is the best pure hitter on our Yanks, so getting him up a few more times this year will be awesome.
by castlehillkid76 on Feb 26, 2012 5:41 PM EST reply actions

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