MLB Hot Stove- Further Burnett Rumors and Over-the-Hill Players Edition
The proposed A.J. to the Pirates deal has been well-chronicled by Pinstripe Alley, and we will continue to bring you any breaking news we hear (and encourage you to Fanshot it if you see something first!). Four teams are supposedly interested in acquiring A.J. with the Yankees paying most of his salary, and Buster Olney has confirmed that Pittsburgh "is the clear frontrunner." As one person tweeted to him, Olney is "the first person to use Pittsburgh and front runner in the same sentence in over twenty years." Justin Bopp at MLB Daily Dish attempted to analyze how much A.J. Burnett is worth over the next two years. Also don't worry, amateur sports psychiatrists of the world, Burnett does not seem to be perturbed about the rumors.
There is a rumor going around that a player (not Garrett Jones) the Yankees could be getting back in return is RHP Nick Kingham, a 20-year old who was their 4th round pick in the 2010 draft and was ranked by MLB.com as Pittsburgh's #12 prospect. Kingham had an impressive 2.15 ERA, 3.51 FIP, and 1.9 BB/9 in 15 starts last year with the low-A State College Spikes. We'll see what happens as the day goes on, although it doesn't seem like a deal is getting done today. It certainly seems like something will happen in the next few days.
The New York Times published a good off-season summary for those of you who have avoided baseball since the Yankees lost to Detroit in the ALDS. Most people know about the Albert Pujols & Prince Fielder signings as well as the Montero/Pineda trade, but did you realize that seven teams have switched general managers? Changing GMs is a big organizational move, and it's remarkable that so many teams have done so.
The Texas Rangers have had a quiet offseason other than the posting and subsequent signing of Yu Darvish (~$111.7 million), but that deal was quite costly and after re-signing Mike Napoli to a $9.4 million deal to avoid arbitration, GM Jon Daniels says that the team is "more than likely" done. If so, that would put the team out of the bidding for Roy Oswalt, who will then probably have to choose between signing with Boston (where he doesn't want to play despite their need) or St. Louis (where they will only sign him on their terms). My guess is St. Louis since Oswalt seems like a guy who hasn't blown the $91 million he's made in the big leagues and would take the slight financial hit to pitch in a place that he likes.
The Marlins and already-Hall of Famer Yoenis Cespedes (whose name MLB immediately spelled wrong [I think] in its report) are getting closer toward a deal; I would be stunned if he ended up anywhere other than Miami since there doesn't seem to be as much interest in him as initially thought. His less-than-impressive 5 for 35 performance with 10 strikeouts in the Dominican Winter League might have had something to do with that, but it is a small sample size and it was his first competitive action since last March.
Meanwhile, in Australia... the Perth Heat, whose pitching coach is former Yankee Graeme Lloyd, won their second consecutive ABL championship with a 13-inning win over the Jet Couriers Melbourne Aces (yes, they are sponsored by a transportation service that doesn't even have a Wikipedia page... Lolstralia). There are apparently 79 Australians in major & minor league baseball, so it's great to see that the country's interest is growing.
South Korean baseballs trained in Arizona for the fist time, a move that will hopefully lead to more South Koreans joining the big leagues and surrendering dramatic homers in the World Series to the Yankees. But seriously, it's good to see MLB going global.
In "Where Are They Now" news, Scott Kazmir has announced that he will throw for scouts in Houston on Wednesday. It's really a shame that his arm was torn to pieces, but I am still positive that the Mets would've rather had his good years than Victor Zambrano, who hasn't even pitched in the big leagues since Kazmir was good.
Finally, a question from me to the community- are you a little surprised that the Yankees haven't held a press conference to announce the Pineda trade & Kuroda signing? Does anyone have any guesses as to why that is? They usually do these after they make a big move.
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AJ BYE BYE!!
Yankees please don’t get too cute and lose the chance to get rid of AJ! Not my money but if Pittsburg gives us 8 to 10 million take it and don’t look back! It’s better than having him in the bullpen screwing up games! I would only bring AJ into a game if we were up 15 runs or behind 10 runs! Remember he couldn’t get thru 5 innings last year when the yanks scored 13 runs early in a game!
Please let him go!!!
I agree. Only be a little hard to deal with. If it takes $10 mil. then just do it. I had rather take my lumps with a youngster and potential than an older pitcher with his better(???) days behind him. Better for the morale of the fielders, hitters and other pitchers seeking an opportunity.
by Southern Yankee boy on Feb 12, 2012 6:04 PM EST up reply actions
You put an exclamation point after every single sentence
"I could never wear another uniform. I will always be a Yankee"- Jorge Posada
Thanks for the memories Jorge
He means business!
Just once I'd like someone to call me "Sir," without adding, "You're making a scene."
A source tells ESPN New York that the odds of the Yankees trading A.J. Burnett are “50-50.”
A second source cited in the piece claims the Yankees aren’t desperate to make a move. Right. Just guessing here, but ESPN New York’s sources are almost assuredly Yankee officials planting information to squeeze a better deal from the Pirates or entice a previously uninterested organization into the bidding frenzy.
Oh boy.
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by WhatwouldJeterdo on Feb 12, 2012 6:08 PM EST reply actions
I still have no idea what the Pirates gain with this deal.
AJ takes up a rotation spot that could go to a prospect who might help the team in the future. If the Pirates don’t have any or don’t want to rush the ones they have, then the innings could go or a replacement level player, or someone out of a scrapheap for all the good it’ll do.
Why pay a guy 10 or 12 or 14 million for 2 seasons of ball in which you will absolutely not contend? It’s not like he is a steady veteran hand that can instruct a young pitching staff in the art of maximising your potential, if anything I’d keep him away from any young pitcher who might have a future.
None of which goes to the fact that there is even the smallest likelihood they give up a minor leaguer who might help them in the future. I’ll grant that building through the draft hasn’t worked for them yet but the Tampa Bay model still seems the best fit. If nothing else why not spend the 12 million on better scouting?
The Yankees will eat most of the salary
so they’ll really be paying a couple mil for a guy teams believe could become comeback player of the year this year. Also, no team enters a season in rebuilding mode; each team wants to win this season and doesn’t become sellers until its obviously clear they won’t contend, so with the chance to take on a cheap peace that could be a missing piece in the puzzle; I don’t see why not.
There are teams each and every season that know they have no chance of contending.
by MichaelGGBGrabow on Feb 12, 2012 6:41 PM EST up reply actions
Well their club last year didn't have a starter with over 172 innings pitched.
AJ for all his faults (and boy does he have some) will most likely give them over 200 innings.
The NL central will be a weakened division and AJ’s stuff could translate well.
"Here, if you have a milkshake, and I have a milkshake, and I have a straw. There it is, that's a straw, you see? You watching?. And my straw reaches acroooooooss the room, and starts to drink your milkshake... I... drink... your... milkshake!"-Daniel Plainview
by yankee come lately on Feb 12, 2012 6:42 PM EST up reply actions
Yep, no Pujols and Fielder really opens up that division
Plus Pittsburgh was playing pretty good ball for the first half of the season. AJ in the NL Central probably loses 1-1.5 runs on his ERA.
Gate receipts for one thing.
Gate receipts are how baseball teams stay in contention. A pitcher from the Yankees with world series experience will bring more people to the ballpark. I just hope they remember to get the Yankees to include 5 sheets of abuse-resistant drywall in the deal. LOL.
I know tickets are cheaper in Pittsburgh...
but I still can’t imagine anyone buying one just to see A.J. pitch.
The best explanation I can come up with for the Pirates interest is this – every team, contender or not, needs to fill nearly 1,500 innings with pitchers during the season. The Pirates believe A.J. can fill 200 of this in non-horrible fashion for a reasonable price. Getting 200 innings from A.J. helps them to not rush their prospects, thereby prolonging the period of time they have them under team control.
By trading for A.J., the Pirates can acquire him for around market value in terms of price, because he has no choice but to go. In free agency they’d have to overpay a comparable pitcher to get him to play in Pittsburgh.
by Let's Talk About Tex Baby on Feb 12, 2012 9:09 PM EST up reply actions
Right on
At $5 million/Win on the FA market, the Pirates will probably pay AJ exactly market price (Derek Lowe-ish money for 1-2 wins).
The reason they have to do this is 1) AJ will eat innings and is better than many of their options & 2) a trade forces AJ to be there, whereas we’ve seen what feels like a couple of FA pitchers say they just won’t go to the Pirates right now.
by PortlandYankee on Feb 12, 2012 9:40 PM EST up reply actions
I'm really excited for baseball this year
Not just the Yankees, but there’s a lot of great storylines. It was one of the most interesting offseasons in a long time.
"I could never wear another uniform. I will always be a Yankee"- Jorge Posada
Thanks for the memories Jorge
Does Bud realize how close the season is? When is the extra wild card team going to be decided?
by MichaelGGBGrabow on Feb 12, 2012 6:52 PM EST reply actions
Hey, fellow PSA mods/writers
Who else looks at every new tweet and hopes to scoop everyone else if it deals with AJ?
CAUSE I’LL GET THE DROP ON YOU ALL!!!!!!
/writer competition
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by I'mGivingYouARaise on Feb 12, 2012 6:54 PM EST reply actions
Mod throwdown!
Just once I'd like someone to call me "Sir," without adding, "You're making a scene."
I can remove all of their rights?
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by Brandon C. on Feb 12, 2012 7:19 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
!
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by Brandon C. on Feb 12, 2012 7:25 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Well, someone is competitive this evening.
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by WhatwouldJeterdo on Feb 12, 2012 7:07 PM EST up reply actions
You're going down, Waffles!!
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by I'mGivingYouARaise on Feb 12, 2012 7:08 PM EST up reply actions
oh yes

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by Cory Braiterman on Feb 12, 2012 11:36 PM EST up reply actions
what waffles jesus devoured?
yes
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by Cory Braiterman on Feb 13, 2012 12:11 PM EST up reply actions
Not quite.
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by WhatwouldJeterdo on Feb 13, 2012 2:07 PM EST up reply actions
definitely a short stack
Last night, a comedian died in New York. Somebody knows why. Somebody knows
I'll be staring at my monitor for the next five hours.
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While you’re doing that, how about sending me an email so I can invite you to the fantasy baseball league.
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by WhatwouldJeterdo on Feb 12, 2012 7:13 PM EST up reply actions
I’ve gotten only 3 so far how about you?
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by Brandon C. on Feb 12, 2012 7:19 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Waiting on 4.
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by WhatwouldJeterdo on Feb 12, 2012 7:19 PM EST up reply actions
Hasn’t gone as planned for me haha
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by Brandon C. on Feb 12, 2012 7:25 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
It’s been a pretty slow PSA weekend. Probably has something to do with it.
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by WhatwouldJeterdo on Feb 12, 2012 7:29 PM EST up reply actions
Yeah that’s why it’s pod it’s on the side
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by Brandon C. on Feb 12, 2012 7:34 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Email sent.
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I’m on a train, so of it doesn’t happen it won’t be me
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by Brandon C. on Feb 12, 2012 7:18 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Nah
"People ask me what I do in winter when there's no baseball. I'll tell you what I do. I stare out the window and wait for spring." --Rogers Hornsby
by Chris McKeown on Feb 12, 2012 8:13 PM EST up reply actions
And it it does happen it won’t be me….
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by Brandon C. on Feb 12, 2012 7:18 PM EST via mobile up reply actions 1 recs
“The Marlins and already-Hall of Famer Yoenis Cespedes (whose name MLB immediately spelled wrong [I think] in its report)”.
Yup, but you actually spelled it wrong, his name is Yoenis Céspedes.
In spanish when the third syllable counting from right to left is a strong syllable (it is “stressed”) its vowel gets a written accent, in spanish those words are called “esdrújulas”.
Cespedes is an esdrújula word, thus is written Céspedes.
Barajas (my last name) or Bañuelos are not esdrújula words because the second from the end syllable is stressed, so it won’t have a graphic accent.
But it is understandable to miss that because spanish is a far more complicated language than english due to it having lots of rules, and words with accents are rarely written as they should, a few examples (in genera, not esdrújula words):
Martínez
Rodríguez
Vázquez
Ramírez
Núñez
And while I might be a bit off topic here, that’s one of the problems that can arise when checking on players legal papers, because there are certain countries that take ortography and grammar more serious than others and you can have your legal papers compromised if your legal identifications don’t match (my mom’s USA visa was put on hold when US customs and immigration noticed THEY had written her name wrong and we didn’t check it, for them it was not a problem but for mexican laws it was, because that meant my mom could be accused of using other people’s papers, but it was quickly resolved by cancelling the wrong visa and applying for a new one xD).
by Miguel Angel Barajas on Feb 12, 2012 7:14 PM EST reply actions
Heh, I actually find this interesting
Thanks!
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by I'mGivingYouARaise on Feb 12, 2012 7:42 PM EST up reply actions
Gracias, pero en ingles las palabras no se acentúan. Muchos nombres se escriben diferentes.
"There is no room in baseball for discrimination. It is our national pastime and a game for all." - Henry Louis "Lou" Gehrig
Well time to write my next IGYARticle
So if AJ news happens while I am, I’m out of the competition!
/slams money on table!
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by I'mGivingYouARaise on Feb 12, 2012 8:08 PM EST reply actions
Yay, what's the topic this time?
Will there be any new profanities like dicktard?
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No
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by Brandon C. on Feb 12, 2012 8:17 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Haha, I'm afraid those days are done
But I’ll still try to come up with non-profane “Shrimpy McHustleheart” type stuff!!
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by I'mGivingYouARaise on Feb 12, 2012 8:28 PM EST up reply actions
Pirates fan here
Thought I’d stop by and offer more info from the perspective of the Pirates. As someone mentioned before, the Bucs could use a starter, what with the uncertain status of Charlie Morton at the start of the season. The NL Central appears to be wide open as well, with Milwaukee and St. Louis not looking as strong. Wouldn’t be shocked if this years division champ only had 90 victories. I’m not sure if the extra wildcard will be in place this year or next.
Bucs were serious division title contenders last year after 103 games which surprised even diehard, longtime fans like myself. The oddity was that many players, especially offensively, weren’t having career years. Pirates played excellent ball against the American League in interleague play, and went 4-2 versus Detroit and Boston. Unfortunately, injuries became a big factor in August, and the club struggled the rest of the way just as the Brewers and Cards caught fire.
If this trade goes down, and Burnett does a solid job in a easier division than the AL East, the Bucs have a real shot at ending the embarrassing record they took from the Phillies a few seasons ago. Getting that monkey off the back of this storied franchise is incredibly important for obvious reasons. Baltimore has something like 15 or 16 losing seasons currently.
As a longtime fan very familiar with the winning tradition of this franchise, it’s been tough to experience these losing seasons, but at least it appears some hope is on the way.
Anyway, thought it was important to provide one view from the Steel City, we’ll see what happens with this proposed transaction.
Thanks very much for this perspective
The Pirates were really exciting to watch last year. Hopefully they are this year as well. Also, on a personal note…
Did the fans like the BucTown #2 rap?
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by I'mGivingYouARaise on Feb 12, 2012 8:27 PM EST up reply actions
Thanks for coming by.
One thing I saw when I was reading BucsDugout was someone asking how AJ is with young pitchers. I know that during the ALDS last year it was brought up that he and Nova had become very close and texted each other to pump them up for their starts in the playoffs. I don’t know if that was an isolated incident, but it was the first thing that came to mind.
I think Burnett could be good for you guys, and he’s been surprisingly durable since joining the Yankees, which never hurts. It was great to see you guys doing well last season (I love watching McCutchen like nearly everyone else in the baseball world), and I hope that Jerry Meals stays far away from your team this season!
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by WhatwouldJeterdo on Feb 12, 2012 8:30 PM EST up reply actions
That 19-inning loss in Atlanta seemed to be the beginning of the end for the Pirates; I hated to see a game end like that and to watch a good, young team injured and run out of gas down the stretch there. That 8-22 August was brutal.
"Don't you think it's strange that you'll make more money than President Hoover this year?"
"Why not? I had a better year than he did." - G.H. Ruth
Thanks for that.
I couldn’t see why this deal made sense for you guys, but your points are very well argued.
by ArunK on Feb 13, 2012 1:41 AM EST via Android app up reply actions
Noticed the Marlins are unretiring #5, got me thinking about #21
What do you think it will take for the Yankees to put it back into circulation? Or do you really they’ll just retire it at some point? I suppose they could just keep it out forever like the Dodgers have done with Fernando Valenzuela’s number, but that just seems strange to me.
I think it’s not going back in unless a Yankee who is already well-respected asks to switch to it. Personally, I wish they’d just put it back out now but whatever. Some fans are really touchy about it.
"Don't you think it's strange that you'll make more money than President Hoover this year?"
"Why not? I had a better year than he did." - G.H. Ruth
I'm pretty sure O'Neil has already given his consent to them putting it back out there
So I don’t see the big deal.
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by I'mGivingYouARaise on Feb 12, 2012 8:52 PM EST up reply actions
Hey, I got a solution to the DH Problem...
Jose Canseco
I leave for cancun Mexico Sunday to make my comeback to the majors playing with the triple a affiliate tigres of cancun
trollolol
"Don't you think it's strange that you'll make more money than President Hoover this year?"
"Why not? I had a better year than he did." - G.H. Ruth
Well I have my Fantasy team ready.
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Need to make a logo and probably change the name.
"There is no room in baseball for discrimination. It is our national pastime and a game for all." - Henry Louis "Lou" Gehrig
I have to believe the chance of an AJ trade are better than 50/50 at this point.
It was hard enough for him to perform before. All the trade talks are certainly not going to have a positive effect on his confidence/performance.
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by In The Big Inning on Feb 12, 2012 10:13 PM EST reply actions
Trading AJ is really tricky
Because chances are, we’re going to get the short end of the stick. Sure, AJ didn’t perform up to par in NY, but I’d wager that his numbers in a suddenly wide-open NL Central will be pretty damn valuable for a team without much consistent pitching. Whatever the Yanks get back for him will almost doubtlessly have less value to the Yanks than what AJ will have to the Bucs, but getting back the #12 prospect of their organization would be huge. I think that a trade like that is exactly what we should be looking for.
"We didn't lose the game; we just ran out of time."-Vince Lombardi
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yes
getting the pirates' #12 prospect is huge
Boone Logan is a good boy. So is David Robertson. Team A.J.
Oh come on, what'd you expect for a 35 year old rocking a 4.8 ERA and 1.45 WHIP over his Yankees tenure
Getting a legit prospect for him is a huge success for Brian Cashman. He’s turning nothing into something. Nick Kingham is only 20 years old and has a pretty solid chance at being a good major leaguer for many years. AJ was only slightly better than replacement level last season and was worse than replacement level the year before that. Maybe if he was 10 years younger, you could put a positive spin on those stats. He’s 35 and not getting younger, and over the last few years he has shown that he absolutely can not adjust to losing a few MPH on his heater. So yeah, getting the Pirates #12 prospect is pretty big, considering the circumstances.
"We didn't lose the game; we just ran out of time."-Vince Lombardi
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a.j.'s problem has been control
not declining fastball velocity
Boone Logan is a good boy. So is David Robertson. Team A.J.
AJ's control has always been a problem
but he was pretty good when he was younger because his stuff was electric. Now that he’s lost a few MPH, he can’t mask his control problems as well as he used to.
"We didn't lose the game; we just ran out of time."-Vince Lombardi
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though he has lost a couple mph
his location has become progressively worse until he made the adjustment to his mechanics. his biggest problem is that he walks way too many people.
Boone Logan is a good boy. So is David Robertson. Team A.J.
Australia....
Nice little mention of Australian baseball. That country has long had a strong baseball influence. Many youngsters play baseball AND cricket and for years was the reason cited for the fact that australian cricketers had far better throwing mechanics than other cricket playing countries. I played baseball in London for many years and the league there had many Australians and South Africans, all of whom were outstanding players.
Man, this writer is a hack!
The Marlins and already-Hall of Famer Yoenis Cespedes (whose name MLB immediately spelled wrong [I think] in its report) are getting closer toward a deal; I would be stunned if he ended up anywhere other than Miami since there doesn’t seem to be as much interest in him as initially thought.
"Don't you think it's strange that you'll make more money than President Hoover this year?"
"Why not? I had a better year than he did." - G.H. Ruth
i'm positive there was absolutely not a hint of sarcasm in that sentence at all.
Boone Logan is a good boy. So is David Robertson. Team A.J.

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