Discussion: Ranking The New York Yankees
by Brandon C. on Jan 4, 2012 4:11 PM EST
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PrintSorry for the lack of posts today, but here is something to fill your Yankees void of the day.
Over at Blueshirt Banter we often have discussions about different Ranger related topics. Since there isn't much going on in Yankeeland right now, let's talk about history.
How would you rank the best Yankees of all-time? How would you rank positions in order of importance? How would you rank the best Yankees teams of all-time? Rotations?
Discuss that, and we will be back with more content soon!
Also, here are some questions of the day for you.
-Scale of 1-10, one being least confident, how confident are you in Phil Hughes?
-Who will have a breakout season in 2012?
-Who will have a breakdown season?
-What do you think of Joe Torre leaving his role with the MLB to pursue the possibility of owning the Los Angeles Dodgers? Who should replace Torre? Hearing Tony LaRussa could be an option.
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Depends on what confidence means in this case. If it’s just confidence that they’ll improve based on last year, then I’m absolutely confident in both. If it’s confidence in them improving dramatically and being big pieces to the rotation, I’ll say this.
Phil Hughes- 7
AJ Burnett- 9 (and I don’t give a shit)
I’ll say Montero has a breakout season, and as for breakdown, I’m going optimistically and I’m gonna say nobody.
As for Joe Torre, I honestly am not all that interested in whatever he’s doing. If he buys the Dodgers, great. If not, I’m not going to care much. I think LaRussa would be a good option to replace him though.
Best Yankees of all time? I really don’t know. Maybe something like this, off the top of my head.
1. Babe Ruth
2. Lou Gehrig
3. Joe DiMaggio
4. Mickey Mantle
5. Yogi Berra
6. Whitey Ford
7. Derek Jeter
8. Mariano Rivera
As for the last two, I have no opinion really. There could be a lot of options to put there, from Munson to Mattingly to Bill Dickey to A-Rod.
I'll do whatever it takes to win games, whether it's sitting on a bench waving a towel, handing a cup of water to a teammate, or hitting the game-winning shot.- Kobe Bryant
A.J. Burnett's only fan!
I watched a DVD of the 2009 season (great DVD by the way, a suggested watch, I think it’s made by A&E) and they had highlights of the press conference for CC and A.J.
A.J. kept talking about how he wanted to pitch on a big stage and contribute to multiple WS etc etc and he seemed so…comfortable.Trying not to sound like a therapist here, but maybe all he needs is to watch that video and remind himself!
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I think he has done that
I remember reading that he watched tapes of his World Series game in 2009 before pitching during the playoffs last year. He pitched pretty well in the playoffs too, but we’ll never know how much he was inspired or how much watching tapes of that game helped him.
He just needs to attack hitters and get ahead as often as possible, because he doesn’t throw 96 consistently enough to blow it by hitters if he’s behind anymore.
I'll do whatever it takes to win games, whether it's sitting on a bench waving a towel, handing a cup of water to a teammate, or hitting the game-winning shot.- Kobe Bryant
A.J. Burnett's only fan!
Bets Yankees?
1. Babe Ruth
2. Lou Gehrig
3. Joe DiMaggio
4. Mickey Mantle
5. Yogi Berra
6. Whitey Ford
7. Mariano Rivera
8. Don Mattingly
9. Derek Jeter
10. Thurman Munson
Teams
1. 27-Murderers Row
2. 61-M & M Boys
3. 98-Most wins ever
4. 32-Babe Ruth called shot and 9 hall of famers
5. 39-Lou Gehrig retires and the Joe DiMaggio era begins
6. 41-Joe DiMaggio 56 game hit streak
7. 09-The end of the drought
BSME
If 2009 was a drought
Then what the hell are the Cubs in?
I'll do whatever it takes to win games, whether it's sitting on a bench waving a towel, handing a cup of water to a teammate, or hitting the game-winning shot.- Kobe Bryant
A.J. Burnett's only fan!
'96 was more of a drought than '09 was
That ’96 Series is one of my all-time favorites. Especially after losing the first 2 games at home and all the Atlanta fans predicting a sweep. I love re-watching games 3-6….
I'd say '96
over ‘09 if you’re going to call it the end of the drought. Additionally, it was the beginning of a dynasty. Come to think of it, definitely ’96.
Romine!
The other questions?
Phil Hughes – I’m at 8
AJ – I’m at 7
Breakout season – Jesus Montero
Breakdown season – Russel Martin
BSME
Rankings
1. Ruth
2. Gehrig
3. Mantle
4. Dimaggio
5. Jeter
6. Berra
7. Ford
8. Rivera
9. A-Rod
10. Dickey
Teams
1927
1939
1998
1936
1953
Scale of 1-10, one being least confident, how confident are you in Phil Hughes? 7
-A.J. Burnett? 2
-Who will have a breakout season in 2012? Ivan Nova, in the sense that people will quit thinking he is getting lucky and is only a 4 at best. After this season I think that he will look like an average #2 starter.
-Who will have a breakdown season? Freddy Garcia. I just don’t see him being successful again.
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by TheRealSlimShady on Jan 4, 2012 5:07 PM EST reply actions
#1 Steve Sax
That’s it.
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by MattF15 on Jan 4, 2012 5:28 PM EST via iPhone app reply actions
Ken Rosenthal @Ken_Rosenthal
Sources: #Marlins close to acquiring Carlos Zambrano from #Cubs. #MLB
LOLOLOLOLOL
Jesus Montero fangirl
by WhatwouldJeterdo on Jan 4, 2012 5:45 PM EST reply actions
Sounds about right.
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by MattF15 on Jan 4, 2012 6:21 PM EST via iPhone app up reply actions
Ken Rosenthal @Ken_Rosenthal
Source: #Cubs paying between $15M and $16M of $18M that Zambrano is due. Volstad going from #Marlins to Cubs. MORE
Jesus Montero fangirl
by WhatwouldJeterdo on Jan 4, 2012 7:36 PM EST up reply actions
I like BLS and Tim Brown. Rest suck
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we should've gotten him one years ago
by long time listener on Jan 4, 2012 8:51 PM EST up reply actions
No argument here!
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by Brandon C. on Jan 5, 2012 2:05 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
http://www.mlbdailydish.com/2012/1/4/2682869/new-york-yankees-trying-to-trade-a-j-burnett#storyjump
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why in the hell would the Braves want AJ?
they need to start cutting down on the pitchers they have, not shit laterally. They can’t keep four major league ready pitchers in AAA again.
Top 10 Yankees of all time
1. Babe Ruth
2. Lou Gehrig
3. Mickey Mantle
4. Joe DiMaggio
5. Yogi Berra
6. Derek Jeter
7. Whitey Ford
8. Mariano Rivera
9. Bill Dickey
10. Willie Randolph
LOL @ Wille.
I love the guy, but you can’t put Willie in front of guys like Mattingly, Elston Howard, Bernie Williams, Phil Rizzuto, Allie Reynolds, Reggie and Paul O’Neill.
fWAR with the Yankees:
Randolph: 56.2
Williams: 47.5
Rizzuto: 47.2
Mattingly: 45.8
Howard: 39.0
O’Neill: 28.4
Jackson: 19.6
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I love Reggie, but the fact that his number is retired is preposterous
I'll do whatever it takes to win games, whether it's sitting on a bench waving a towel, handing a cup of water to a teammate, or hitting the game-winning shot.- Kobe Bryant
A.J. Burnett's only fan!
its like saying Ricky Henderson was one of the greatest Yankees ever
If he didn’t hit those home runs would he even matter to anyone at this point?
Willie Randolph is ridiculously underrated. I came very close to putting him in my top 10.
"Don't you think it's strange that you'll make more money than President Hoover this year?"
"Why not? I had a better year than he did." - G.H. Ruth
He would have been in my top 15
and until Cano gets a few more years under his belt is probably the best 2b the Yanks have had.
I can, and I did :)
Willie is historically underrated, and the best second baseman the Yanks have ever had (followed by some order of Lazzeri, Cano, Gordon). Willie should be in the Hall of Fame. It was a toss up between him and Rizutto, but Willie gets the nod because he was more valuable for the Yankees and because he needs the recognition.
by cookiedabookie on Jan 5, 2012 4:20 PM EST up reply actions
@djaubain: I can’t wait to not understand what Ozzie Guillen has to say about acquiring Carlos Zambrano
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"Every day is a great day for hockey."
What do you think of Joe Torre leaving his role with the MLB to pursue the possibility of owning the Los Angeles Dodgers?
…in a related story, the Dodgers have signed Scott Proctor to a 10 year contract worth $255 million.
by Let's Talk About Tex Baby on Jan 4, 2012 6:37 PM EST reply actions 2 recs
Top Ten lists
Players: Teams:
1. Babe Ruth 1927
2. Lou Gehrig 1961
3. Joe Dimaggio 1998
4 Mickey Mantle 1939
5.Yogi Berra 1978
6. Derek Jeter 1936
7 Whitey Ford 1956
8. Mariano Rivera
9. Bill Dickey
10. Tie Red Ruffing and Lefty Grove
"I don't want one of those guys who'll drive in two but let in three every game." Casey Stengel
by tnredneckyankeesfan on Jan 4, 2012 7:56 PM EST reply actions
You mean Lefty Gomez.
"Don't you think it's strange that you'll make more money than President Hoover this year?"
"Why not? I had a better year than he did." - G.H. Ruth
If Lefty Grove did play for the Yankees
he’s be near the top.
Indeed, my bad.
"I don't want one of those guys who'll drive in two but let in three every game." Casey Stengel
by tnredneckyankeesfan on Jan 5, 2012 1:11 PM EST up reply actions
young fan warning
Top Yanks
1) Babe Ruth
2) Lou Gehrig
3) Derek Jeter
4) Mickey Mantle
5) Mariano Rivera
6) Joe DiMaggio
7) Yogi Berra
8) Whitey Ford
9) Bill Dickey
10) Red Ruffing
Phil Hughes Confidence – 8.5
AJ Burnett Confidence – 3
Breakout – Montero
Breakdown – Martin
My Top 10, plus Day 4!
Top 10 Yankees
1. Babe Ruth
2. Lou Gehrig
3. Mickey Mantle
4. Joe DiMaggio
5. Derek Jeter
6. Yogi Berra
7. Whitey Ford
8. Mariano Rivera
9. Bill Dickey
10. Alex Rodriguez
Top 10 Yankee teams
1. 1927
2. 1998
3. 1939
4. 1961
5. 1932
6. 2009
7. 1936
8. 1977
9. 1953
10. 1999
Day 4 of “366 Up, 366 Down” is up! Check it out.
"Don't you think it's strange that you'll make more money than President Hoover this year?"
"Why not? I had a better year than he did." - G.H. Ruth
Top 10 Yankees
Top 10 Yankees
1. Babe Ruth
2. Lou Gehrig
3. Mickey Mantle
4. Joe DiMaggio
5. Yogi Berra
6. Derek Jeter
7. Whitey Ford
8. Mariano Rivera
9. Don Mattingly
10. Andy Pettite
If I put AJ Burnett for a breakdown season, as in 'breaking down and needing surgery,' then he becomes a 10.
Was that the question? Otherwise, he’s going to be more of the same. Anyone who thinks otherwise has been forgetting to take their medication. I believe that Phil Hughes will contribute somehow, either as a starter or as set up for Rivera this year or Robertson next.
Since nobody else has addressed this, the best Yankee rotations were probably those of the 1950s, headed by Whitey Ford, with Reynolds, Raschi, etc backing him up. The second best would probably be the late 90s rotation with Key, Cone, and Wells. Third perhaps the mid- 70s rotation with Guidry, Figueroa, Hunter.
by designatedquitter on Jan 5, 2012 10:45 AM EST reply actions
What, no love
for Ruffing, Gomez, or Pennock?
"I don't want one of those guys who'll drive in two but let in three every game." Casey Stengel
by tnredneckyankeesfan on Jan 5, 2012 1:13 PM EST up reply actions
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