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New York Yankees News: Posada Retires, Pineda Arrives, What About A DH?

Jorge Posada will officially announce his retirement at a press conference this morning. You can watch at 11 a.m. on YES.

  • The Jesus Montero-Michael Pineda trade was finalized yesterday. Pineda said -

I'm feeling great and I'm beyond excited. I never thought I would become a New York Yankee so early into my career. This is the best thing in the world. Pitching alongside CC Sabathia, I'm speechless. And playing alongside players such as Alex Rodriguez and Derek Jeter is unbelievable. [italics added]

A little slip of the tongue by Pineda? Funny, nonetheless. And if you're worried about the "Verducci Effect" happening to him, don't. It turns out the "effect" doesn't really exist.

  • Brian Cashman said Montero was probably the best player he's ever traded.* He added that he'd look to the trade market (using his "excess pitching") to find a DH before the free agent pool. And that he still views Phil Hughes as a starter.

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* Check back at noon for an article examining the impact of pitchers vs. hitters in the playoffs.

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So the Sox trade Scutaro to save money.

Then spend half of it on a guy who will be their right handed platoon guy in RF? I’m guessing either Crawford is likely to miss April, or they have high hopes for Punto/Avilés/Iglesias.

Or perhaps the 3 million really is the difference factor IBM ultimately signing Oswalt.

by ArunK on Jan 24, 2012 6:15 AM EST via Android app reply actions  

I honestly don't know what they're doing

If an extra $3M was all they needed, I can’t believe they couldn’t scrounge that up without having to trade Scutaro. The Red Sox are working ass backwards this offseason. It’s confusing.

by jetanumba2 on Jan 24, 2012 7:43 AM EST up reply actions  

We are going to find out Theo...

was the sole reason the Red Sox have been such a competitive team the last 10 years.

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by Judgegavel on Jan 24, 2012 6:26 PM EST up reply actions  

I believe I read on OTM that Crawford was expected to miss April.

Jesus Montero fangirl

by WhatwouldJeterdo on Jan 24, 2012 2:01 PM EST up reply actions  

So glad Hughes is still considered a starter.

"You kind of took it for granted around the Yankees that there was always going to be baseball in October." - Hall of Fame Pitcher Whitey Ford

by DarthYankee on Jan 24, 2012 8:49 AM EST reply actions  

The Verducci effect is overstated, and (like the more traditional Sophomore Slump) it is a rule of thumb not a law.
Yes, there are too many sub-rules and surprising exceptions, but that’s what happens when you make a first attempt at making life map onto an x-y axis. It’s a whole lot messier than a straight line.

I’d love to read the article, but the server keeps timing out. Too much traffic from PA crashed Deadspin!

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by jscape2000 on Jan 24, 2012 8:53 AM EST reply actions  

You mean we shouldn’t believe everything we read?

Romine!

by david d on Jan 24, 2012 9:23 AM EST up reply actions  

server keeps timing out. Too much traffic from PA porn crashed Deadspin!

Last night, a comedian died in New York. Somebody knows why. Somebody knows

by Rorschach44 on Jan 24, 2012 9:50 AM EST up reply actions  

Brian Cashman said Montero was probably the best player he's ever traded

Wouldnt you think he would say the best “prospect he’s ever traded”, seeing that Montero has little experience in the big leagues? I mean yes he did look great in his 61 ab’s with 4 home runs and an average over 300.. but to say hes the ‘best’ player player he’s ever traded seems a bit of an exaggeration lol.

by jdelsandro on Jan 24, 2012 9:19 AM EST reply actions  

Hedging himself?

If Montero goes berzerk and Pineda disappoints, he can say he knew Montero would be great.

Most arguments are really about context.

by SheaWasBettor21 on Jan 24, 2012 11:28 AM EST up reply actions  

Better than Phil Coke? Wilson Betemit?

Or, more seriously, Alfonso Soriano or Austin Jackson.

by designatedquitter on Jan 24, 2012 3:55 PM EST up reply actions  

yeah soriano was a beast when he was traded for A-Rod… lofty expectations for Montero to live up to in Seattles pitchers park…

by jdelsandro on Jan 24, 2012 5:17 PM EST up reply actions  

Certainly better than Jackson...

doubtful he will be better than Soriano, although probably close.

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by Judgegavel on Jan 24, 2012 6:27 PM EST up reply actions  

well maybe

Maybe the “excess pitching” he’s referring to is Phil Hughes, and maybe he’s saying he views Hughes as a starter so he can get more for him in a trade.

by 209209 on Jan 24, 2012 9:25 AM EST reply actions  

Similar to my first thought…they also said Noesi was going to start no matter where he was.

by MichaelGGBGrabow on Jan 24, 2012 10:45 AM EST up reply actions  

This.

Hughes for Guzman

Fits both teams and your DH’s name is Jesus again.

Most arguments are really about context.

by SheaWasBettor21 on Jan 24, 2012 11:33 AM EST up reply actions  

So? Just because he’s young doesn’t mean he’s going to keep getting better until __ years old. He may have topped out as a player in 2009 for all we know.

by Jedi Master A-Rod on Jan 24, 2012 8:33 PM EST up reply actions  

Adios!

Buena suerte!

Romine!

by david d on Jan 24, 2012 10:27 AM EST up reply actions  

have fun in seattle!

JPP for 2011 DPOY!

by NewYork! on Jan 24, 2012 2:14 PM EST up reply actions  

Take care Jesus,

Good luck in the pitchers park that is Seattle… I really did look forward to your career in pinstripes :( maybe when you hit it big, and Seattle cant afford you anymore… the Yankees will bring you back home :)

by jdelsandro on Jan 24, 2012 2:54 PM EST up reply actions  

Sporcle Quiz of Jorge Posada's fellow Yankee catchers

Here

Some of these names… I don’t even…

"Don't you think it's strange that you'll make more money than President Hoover this year?"
"Why not? I had a better year than he did." - G.H. Ruth

366 Up, 366 Down

by Andrew GM on Jan 24, 2012 11:50 AM EST reply actions   1 recs

lolwut
Former major league slugger and admitted steroid user Jose Canseco wants to return to the majors.

Canseco issued the following tweet late Monday night:
“Fenway 350 lifetime batting average 1 hr per every 9 at bats. I am ready to play for Boston give me a tryout.”

The funny thing is that Canseco’s numbers are wrong. He’s a career .312 hitter at Fenway Park, and only averaged one home run per 13 at bats.

I’m guessing he isn’t serious, but this man is still beyond crazy.

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by nyyrocks29 on Jan 24, 2012 1:12 PM EST reply actions  

Fausto Carmona turns out to be 31 not 28

Hopefully Pineda is actually 23 and not 26-27.

by bbuhl02 on Jan 24, 2012 2:05 PM EST reply actions  

imagine he was? agghhhhh, but pineda does look really young

JPP for 2011 DPOY!

by NewYork! on Jan 24, 2012 2:19 PM EST up reply actions  

I doubt it

Pineda was 6’3 180 lbs when he was first signed, and 6’5 around 2-3 years ago, the adult male body stops growing around the age of 21 years old. This is about as close to a zero percent chance of him not being 23 as you can possible get. No one in there mid 20’s grows several inches in height unless they have a serious genetic condition, in which case Pineda wouldn’t be able to play baseball anyway.

by Yankees199 on Jan 24, 2012 5:00 PM EST up reply actions  

Ken Rosenthal @Ken_Rosenthal
Confirming: Prince close on nine-year, $214M deal with #Tigers, according to source. First reported by @JonHeymanCBS and @TBrownYahoo. #MLB

Holy crap.

Jesus Montero fangirl

by WhatwouldJeterdo on Jan 24, 2012 3:10 PM EST reply actions  

Thats...unfortunate

I don’t like Detroit.

I'll do whatever it takes to win games, whether it's sitting on a bench waving a towel, handing a cup of water to a teammate, or hitting the game-winning shot.- Kobe Bryant

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by nyyrocks29 on Jan 24, 2012 3:17 PM EST up reply actions  

and the mystery team strikes again…

I Bleed Yankee Blue...

by donniebaseball23 on Jan 24, 2012 3:17 PM EST up reply actions  

Apparently there is talk of moving Miggy to 3rd…

Jesus Montero fangirl

by WhatwouldJeterdo on Jan 24, 2012 3:19 PM EST up reply actions  

Why noy just rotate them at 1st and DH? DH Miggy against lefties and Prince against righties…voila!

Romine!

by david d on Jan 24, 2012 3:54 PM EST up reply actions  

Those lying bastards said they would call up someone in their system to replace VMart.

I called them liars right away, but I thought they would be looking at the same type of players that the Yankees are after, not Cecil Fielder’s little boy.

by designatedquitter on Jan 24, 2012 3:57 PM EST up reply actions  

Dont post here much,

But what are we going to do about the DH? I dont want to rotate in the postseason…

by DMAC4REAL on Jan 24, 2012 3:36 PM EST reply actions  

Welcome! Either a trade or signing, not sure yet!

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by Brandon C. on Jan 24, 2012 3:52 PM EST up reply actions  

not a rotisserie fan?

Last night, a comedian died in New York. Somebody knows why. Somebody knows

by Rorschach44 on Jan 24, 2012 4:49 PM EST up reply actions  

I do think the Verducci Effect exists

But we shouldn’t worry about Pineda anyway, he only through 31 more innings than last year .

by Yankees199 on Jan 24, 2012 4:48 PM EST reply actions  

"I could never wear another uniform," he said. "I will forever be a Yankee."

Great words from a great Yankee.

See you around Yankeeland in years to come Jorge. Thanks for everything!

by rosebud on Jan 24, 2012 5:58 PM EST reply actions  

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