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Yu Darvish and Rangers Agree to 6 year/$60 Million Contract

In what should come as a surprise to no one, Yu Darvish and the Texas Rangers have agreed to a contract just in time to meet the negotiating deadline. The deal will pay him $10 million a season through 2017, which is either a bargain, or the going rate for a front-line pitcher, depending on how you factor in the posting fee.

Personally, I think that money is money, and since the Rangers now have to cut a check to the Nippon Ham Fighters for $51.7 million, I'll factor that into Darvish's salary, at least when we're talking about cost per WAR. On that front, assuming 5% salary inflation, he will need to be worth somewhere around 20 WAR for the life of the deal to justify the outlay, which is about what Cole Hamels and Mark Buehrle were worth from 2006-2011.

Can Darvish be Cole Hamels or Mark Buerhle? Only time will tell.

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has an opt-out after the fifth year.

by Travis G on Jan 18, 2012 7:50 PM EST reply actions  

That assumes that Yu Darvish is still a serviceable MLB pitcher in his fifth year.

It’s not certain with his repertoire that this is the case.

And more important than his physical attributes is his mental toughness. The MLB is a game of adjustments and riding highs and lows. Yu Darvish has never really had any competitive adversity in the sense of losing.

The real ill omen coming from Yu is his penchant for being a Diva. In the few times that he’s had a bad game, he’s been babied and coddled as is expected in Japan’s media culture. It’s to his benefit that he’s not in Boston or New York; I don’t think he could take that kind of adversity. Texas is a little more forgiving sports culture in any case similar to California (Yes Ken, I went there).

by Rickart on Jan 19, 2012 6:02 PM EST up reply actions  

As to whether the Yankees will have a chance to break Yu in the coming years....

The answer is that the Yankees will not have that many opportunities.

Japanese players in the MLB have a reputation for being babied and that includes Japanese pitching superstars having their schedules gimmicked to avoid tough competition. They can’t completely avoid tough lineups like the Yankees of course but they do their best to minimize their exposure.

The most famous recent example is of course Daisuke Matsuzaka. The word around the league got out that the Red Sox were massaging his pitching schedule, “skipped starts” and “injuries” to avoid pitching him against good offenses like the Yankees – even during his early years when he was supposedly their Ace starter with those inflated stats (and also a big reason FOR those inflated stats).

The stat wonks were passing around factoids last season that Matsuzaka was scheduled against the BOTTOM THIRD offenses TWICE as often as he saw the other 2/3.

And he’s in the AL EAST.

Can you say “Bottom Feeder”?

He almost never pitched against Yankees even though Boston and New York are in the same DIvision. Over the same time as Dice-K, Beckett faced the Yankees more than twice as often as the supposed Japanese superstar.

Even Tim Wakefield started more games against the Yankees during Dice-K’s 5 years in the AL East. Think about THAT!

Tim Wakefield. The guy is a decade older than Dice, gets paid chump change compared to the Japanese star, and was listed at the bottom of Boston’s pitching depth chart.

That’s how badly the Red Sox babied Matsuzaka – even to the point of throwing a respected and loyal veteran like Wakefield to the wolves… the Yankee lineup AND the Boston+New York media which would rip him up when the Yankees pounded Wakefield – when it SHOULD have been Dice-K taking the lumps.

Not surprisingly, this got alot of people’s hackles up in Boston’s organization. It was one of the things that caused everything to come apart at the seams and was the PRIMARY reason why the pitching staff stopped listening to Francona.

If you’ve been a Yankee fan over the past five years and you’ve wondered why your team rarely had a crack against the hyped-up Japanese superstar…well…you weren’t imagining things.

So don’t be surprised if the Yankees don’t see much of Yu Darvish in the coming years (unless the entire Yankee lineup gets replaced by the Mariners lineup). It’ll happen – just don’t be surprised if he pulls a “Dice-K” here and there (Yes, it’s been a verb among some MLB players for a while now).

by Rickart on Jan 19, 2012 7:07 PM EST up reply actions  

So does this mean Prince is not going to the Rangers?

This man needs to seriously sign with a team before it is too late. Also, what does this mean to the AL playoff/pennant race?

by TootooReigns on Jan 18, 2012 7:51 PM EST via iPhone app reply actions  

Well, they also lost CJ Wilson

So, it remains to be seen if they are better, worse, or the same overall. Plus, their division rivals the Angels got better, which will hurt them.

by waw on Jan 18, 2012 10:19 PM EST up reply actions  

They're better than they were yesterday is what I meant

I think Darvish will out-pitch Wilson over the next 5 years but that remains to be seen. One way or another the Rangers are a very good team.

by Let's Talk About Tex Baby on Jan 18, 2012 11:16 PM EST up reply actions  

I wish the Yankees could have pursued him more aggressively

Good luck to him. He’s going to be a great pitcher.

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by nyyrocks29 on Jan 18, 2012 8:22 PM EST reply actions  

i share your belief in yu...

but, looking at where we’re at now, if you think that pineda has the potential to be as good as darvish over the next 5 years, then it’s hard to get too upset about the decisions the yanks have made. certainly, from a money standpoint, if both players perform at about the same level (hardly unthinkable), then the yanks will have spent considerably less for that return. in short, putting aside some sentimental prospect-hugging tendencies, the darvish deal actually makes me feel better about our team…

by sing_or_die_1818 on Jan 18, 2012 10:08 PM EST up reply actions  

They could have had Darvish+Pineda instead of Kuroda

Or Darvish+Montero. Both those options sound better than what they have now, though Darvsh is quite expensive. I’m not upset with the way things have turned out- I just think that highly of Darvish.

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by nyyrocks29 on Jan 18, 2012 10:25 PM EST up reply actions  

I'm calling it here first

Darvish wins the Cy Young and the Rookie of the Year in 2012.

by Let's Talk About Tex Baby on Jan 18, 2012 11:17 PM EST up reply actions  

I like the trade and all,

but Yu + Montero sounds nicer than Pineda at this moment.

by Now Batting on Jan 18, 2012 8:37 PM EST via mobile reply actions  

They conceivably could have had Yu and Pineda.

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by Frank Campagnola on Jan 18, 2012 8:52 PM EST up reply actions  

I won't believe all the hype on one of these Japanese pitchers

until one delivers. I’m still waiting to see someone throw a gyroball.

by garp on Jan 18, 2012 8:47 PM EST reply actions  

I hope the Yanks break him

like they did Kyle Drabek, I’m still out for blood after 2010 ALCS. Until we crush the rangers in the most humiliating way possible my bloodlust against them won’t be sated.

they are my #2 most despised team behind Boston

by Yankees199 on Jan 18, 2012 8:57 PM EST reply actions  

exactly what I typed

or is saying “I hope NY f$%$ks Yu up so bad he has nightmares about it,” better? This is all due to my strong strong dislike of the Rangers because of what happened in the 2010 ALCS

by Yankees199 on Jan 18, 2012 9:20 PM EST up reply actions  

The Yankees lose to every team at some point or another. It’s not that serious.

Jesus Montero fangirl

by WhatwouldJeterdo on Jan 18, 2012 9:23 PM EST up reply actions  

it's not the loss its how they loss

I hold no ill will towards Detroit, but that Texas series; everything that could go wrong basically did, so many rinky dink, slow rolling grounders going for hits, all the mental miscues, it was basically the equivalent of having their pants pulled down. It was a bad series

by Yankees199 on Jan 18, 2012 9:28 PM EST up reply actions  

I meant

I hold no ill will for how Detroit eliminated us in 2011

by Yankees199 on Jan 18, 2012 9:29 PM EST up reply actions  

Sounds like something you should blame the Yankees themselves for.

Jesus Montero fangirl

by WhatwouldJeterdo on Jan 18, 2012 9:32 PM EST up reply actions  

I can't stay mad those guys

http://www.google.com/imgres?um=1&hl=en&safe=off&sa=N&biw=1280&bih=642&tbm=isch&tbnid=_6We15-q8MEPGM:&imgrefurl=http://sportsdemotivation.wordpress.com/2008/07/09/new-york-yankees-derek-jeter-and-bobby-abreu-celebrate-a-win/&docid=SeZzyJWyGou0FM&imgurl=http://sportsdemotivation.files.wordpress.com/2008/07/kathy-willens-jeter-abreu.jpg&w=500&h=564&ei=k4IXT4feNNPptgfkvJnpAg&zoom=1&iact=hc&vpx=313&vpy=129&dur=4762&hovh=238&hovw=211&tx=106&ty=107&sig=102346103169056407579&page=1&tbnh=137&tbnw=128&start=0&ndsp=18&ved=1t:429,r:1,s:0

but I sure as hell want vengeance against the rangers, until Yanks completely dominate Texas that eliminates them from the post, I’m they are on my list

by Yankees199 on Jan 18, 2012 9:43 PM EST up reply actions  

Wait, the Yankees broke Drabek?

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by Brandon C. on Jan 18, 2012 9:35 PM EST up reply actions  

everything went down the crapper for drabek

after the NY series, so its part of the narrative that they broke him

by Yankees199 on Jan 18, 2012 9:46 PM EST up reply actions  

This is the first I've heard of it

So either I’m not paying attention (possible) or there is no narrative

by waw on Jan 18, 2012 10:22 PM EST up reply actions  

there are other blogs you know

where this narrative is talked about, and just because you never heard it doesn’t mean it doesn’t exist

by Yankees199 on Jan 18, 2012 11:22 PM EST up reply actions  

No Yu = more money for Yankees

quite honestly im glad that the rangers are the ones wasting their money. Yu will have three decent seasons, tops.

by BernBabyBern51 on Jan 18, 2012 9:31 PM EST reply actions  

Man this site has wasted a lot of time, you should have said that a long time ago.

by MichaelGGBGrabow on Jan 19, 2012 9:44 AM EST up reply actions  

?

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by Brandon C. on Jan 18, 2012 9:35 PM EST up reply actions  

Nevermind

I saw a few comments and thought everything was in Spanish.

by Briceratops on Jan 18, 2012 9:59 PM EST up reply actions  

Anyone who doesn't like that is

PART OF THE REBEL ALLIANCE AND A TRAITOR!

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by I'mGivingYouARaise on Jan 19, 2012 12:03 AM EST up reply actions  

I liked it! I liked it! It’s…something

Romine!

by david d on Jan 19, 2012 12:05 AM EST up reply actions  

People keep talking about how Texas got so much better this offseason with the addition of Darvish. I think Darvish will be pretty good but I’d be surprised if he put up CJ Wilson #‘s last season. I think they stayed relatively the same. Also, with Darvish, Lewis, Harrison, Holland, Feliz, and Ogando, it would make sense for Texas to go with a 6 man rotation. 3 of the 6 will have issues going every 5 days. It almost seems like they should have just left Feliz in the pen and could still have a solid 5 man staff. We’ll see, I’m sure Feliz will turn into a great SP now that I said that.

by cermolaNY2 on Jan 19, 2012 1:15 AM EST reply actions  

SIX DAYS.....

You have hit on a great point with regards to Yu especially being able to go every 5 days. That rotation could be very good, but it could also be very, very shaky.

102M for six years is a lot to pay a guy who has never thrown a major league pitch. I mean, maybe Yu turns out to be brilliant, for that money he better be. But if he isnt, well………..

5 years of cheap team control on Pineda looks a better and better deal to me every single day.

by PAC1318 on Jan 19, 2012 11:13 AM EST up reply actions  

I like what cashman has done

If Yu does what Pineda did in the first half of last season people will go crazy.
If Pineda was pitching in the Northeast last year things would be viewed differently. The the best part is he is young with crazy potential and cost the yanks peanuts.

by ABMANTLE on Jan 19, 2012 11:22 AM EST via Android app up reply actions  

This.

Most arguments are really about context.

by SheaWasBettor21 on Jan 19, 2012 11:19 PM EST up reply actions  

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