Yankees News and Notes: Trade Reaction
Forget about the Hot Stove. Last night, Brian Cashman warmed up the Yankees' sleepy winter with a flame thrower. The biggest news centered on the surprise trade of prized prospect Jesus Montero for rookie sensation Michael Pineda. So, how did the blogosphere react? See for yourself.
- Fangraphs compared what the Yankees traded for Pineda to the packages involved in other recent deals and concluded that Cashman paid pennies on the dollar.
- At The Captain's Blog, I argued if you can get past the affection for Montero, the logic behind the trade seems clear. In other words, it's ok to like the deal even if you love Montero.
- River Avenue Blues compared the trade to the Red Sox sending Hanley Ramirez to the Marlins for Josh Beckett, although Beckett was already a five-year veteran when that deal was made.
- From the other side of the fence, USS Mariner was cautiously optimistic about the deal, assuming the Mariners make other moves to fill the void left behind by Pineda, while Lookout Landing was wrestling with several conflicting emotions, but seemed relieved that King Felix was not the one who was traded.
- On the local beat, John Harper of the Daily News called the deal Brian Cashman's best trade ever, while the New York Times included rave reviews from the ever popular anonymous talent evaluator. Larry Stone of the Seattle Times was less ebullient, but offered 10 thoughts on the trade.
- Finally, Keith Law stated that both teams successfully addressed their critical needs, but gave a slight edge to the Mariners because of greater certainty associated with Montero's bat. Law also provides more insight into Jose Campos, who also gets very favorable reviews from John Sickels and Prospect Instinct.
Almost immediately after news of the trade broke, the Yankees also reached a tentative agreement with veteran right hander Hiroki Kuroda. Does the addition of Kuroda and Pineda once again make the Yankees the favorites in the AL East? Sports Illustrated's Cliff Corcoran thinks so.
As if his evening wasn't busy enough, Jon Heyman also reported that Cashman has inquired about free agent first baseman Carlos Pena. With the DH slot now wide open, perhaps the Yankees envision a Pena/Andruw Jones platoon?
In what now seems like rather anti-climatic news, the Yankees are no longer believed to be suitors for Cuban outfielder Yoennis Cespedes.
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After sleeping on this whole thing
I feel better about it and can see how overall it makes us a much better team. i still dont LIKE losing Montero, but if Pineda can live up to the billing then it certainly helps push us that extra step in the division.
As with all trades, time will tell.
It's 6 ABs dude
Lets not call him a bust yet. I agree not to sign him though.
I'll do whatever it takes to win games, whether it's sitting on a bench waving a towel, handing a cup of water to a teammate, or hitting the game-winning shot.- Kobe Bryant
A.J. Burnett's only fan!
We need pitching in the postseason
and pitching is a far rarer commodity in today’s baseball. I’m lukewarm on the trade only because I don’t like giving up good, young hitting talent in an aging lineup.
Is that why they lost in the playoffs? Could have sworn it was because they didn’t hit for shit.
by Jedi Master A-Rod on Jan 14, 2012 9:08 AM EST up reply actions
One hitter is not going to change the performance of an entire lineup but
a good pitcher can keep a team in the game that can’t hit in the clutch.
Montero's not going to get a hit every time he comes up to the plate.
In the playoffs it’s all about pitching and clutch hitting. It doesn’t matter if Montero hit 1.000 because other Yankees will still have to get clutch hits to win.
As of today, the Yankees have the best staff in the AL.
and to get there its all about winning games
Montero gives us more chances to win than Pineda can.
150 games > 30 games
I'm not worried about the regular season
It’s all about the playoffs, and in the playoffs, pitching wins.
except the Cardinals proved otherwise
lets not get too entitled. We still have to actually make it to the playoffs just like everyone else.
I care about why the Yankees didn't win.
Montero wouldn’t have changed anything. This lineup is old and doesn’t get clutch hits. One or two players does not make a lineup.
The Cards showed heart and that’s why they won. They managed to out-pitch the best staff in baseball. Nobody going into the playoffs would even say that the Cards had the best lineup.
but they out hit the Rangers
Hitting is just as important as pitching, lets put the “Only Pitching Wins Championships” charade to rest because it clearly isn’t true.
I’m not against Pineda, but I am against giving up a young bat who can contribute in every game in a lineup that will DESPERATELY need youth in the next few year, over a luxury item #2 pitcher that will contribute once every 5 games. I’m not in favor of filling a ‘hole’ just to create another one.
Cannot deny the logic of the trade
LOVE Jesus but…..
A 2012 rotation of
CC
Pineda
Kuroda (sp)
Hughes
Nova
Garcia is the long man and fill in as needed. AJ goes away. Not bad. And Manny takes Kuroda’s place in 2013.
Will be interesting to see who starts at DH.
Bring lawyers, guns and money to get me out of this one! Stand in the Fire.
To talk crazy there is now room for Prince Fielder at DH.
by upstateNYYFan1984 on Jan 14, 2012 8:51 AM EST up reply actions
For 2-3 years?
I heard there was a rumor that he’d accept a short term deal.
I'll do whatever it takes to win games, whether it's sitting on a bench waving a towel, handing a cup of water to a teammate, or hitting the game-winning shot.- Kobe Bryant
A.J. Burnett's only fan!
All I can say is I don't want Pena.
The last thing the Yankees need is a power hitter that hits for a low average and strikes out a lot.
I would offer Prince 1 year and $25 mil
Which you never know, he might take if he’s really not happy with his long term options and he wants to wait a year and then try again. No idea whether the Yankees would expand their budget to do this, but it would be pretty exciting if they did.
by Let's Talk About Tex Baby on Jan 14, 2012 9:34 AM EST up reply actions
Why are so many including Hughes in the rotation?
He was in the pen before Cashman said “yes” to this deal. Burnett or Garcia may be moved, but they’d be hard pressed to move both and Hughes isn’t beating out either.
I'll do whatever it takes to win games, whether it's sitting on a bench waving a towel, handing a cup of water to a teammate, or hitting the game-winning shot.- Kobe Bryant
A.J. Burnett's only fan!
When did this all happen?
Talk about while you were sleeping.
by upstateNYYFan1984 on Jan 14, 2012 8:46 AM EST reply actions
Yeah, I missed this too
helluva surprise for a Saturday AM when I’m trying to focus on more important things… like football playoffs.
Bigger question… .what are the Post and Daily News back page writers going to do with all the “JESUS SAVES” headlines they had stocked up for the next 10 years.
I still hate this crap
and as Pineda Joba Chamberlains his way through the season with countless 5IP 100P outings, Montero will be slugging 35HRs and making Seattle into a solid club.
We needed pitching, but not like this. Kuroda and whatever the hell for Edwin Jackson would’ve sufficed.
Last night, a comedian died in New York. Somebody knows why. Somebody knows
by Rorschach44 on Jan 14, 2012 9:01 AM EST reply actions 1 recs
Pineda had a BB/9 of under three
He doesn’t walk that many people and he strikes out a ton, and he’s only 23 years old.
I love Montero too, but this was the best they could have hoped for him. And they got a great young pitching prospect back too.
I'll do whatever it takes to win games, whether it's sitting on a bench waving a towel, handing a cup of water to a teammate, or hitting the game-winning shot.- Kobe Bryant
A.J. Burnett's only fan!
totally agree
Cashman compared Montero to Piazza and Miguel Cabrera. You don’t trade a player like that. He’ll be a cornerstone player for Seattle for the next decade
by Arkansas Yankee on Jan 14, 2012 10:16 AM EST via iPhone app up reply actions
And Pineda might be a cornerstone pitcher for the Yankees for the next decade too
I loved Montero as much as everyone, but this trade is done with. I think it’s time to look at the positives of it, and there certainly are positives.
I'll do whatever it takes to win games, whether it's sitting on a bench waving a towel, handing a cup of water to a teammate, or hitting the game-winning shot.- Kobe Bryant
A.J. Burnett's only fan!
hopefully you're right
I think he’ll have to be no worse than a good #2 or fringe ace to make this deal worth it. I fully believe Montero will be as good as Miguel Cabrera
by Arkansas Yankee on Jan 14, 2012 11:35 AM EST via iPhone app up reply actions
Well, looking at it the Yankee way
Montero will rake and hate it in Seattle because they still will never find a way to win, and the Yankees will buy him back in 6-7 years!
I'll do whatever it takes to win games, whether it's sitting on a bench waving a towel, handing a cup of water to a teammate, or hitting the game-winning shot.- Kobe Bryant
A.J. Burnett's only fan!
Love that idea…and you’re probably right about hating playing in SEA
by Arkansas Yankee on Jan 14, 2012 1:51 PM EST via iPhone app up reply actions

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