New York Yankees Trade Jesus Montero To The Seattle Mariners For Michael Pineda
by Brandon C. on Jan 13, 2012 7:40 PM EST
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PrintUPDATE: The Yankees will also send Hector Noesi to the Mariners, and will receive Jose Campos.
Update from Frank: Per John Sickels, on Campos, in his top 20 Mariners prospects list: "We need to see him at higher levels and his secondary stuff needs refinement, but his upside is very high, he throws hard, and already throws strikes." Sickels gave him a B grade and named him the Mariners' number five prospect.
The New York Yankees and Seattle Mariners agreed to a shocking trade tonight. The Yankees will send Jesus Montero to the Seattle Mariners for Michael Pineda, with other lesser pieces being involved.
Pineda, 23, was a rookie last season, yet pitched in 28 games. In those games Pineda managed the following stat line:
9 wins, 10 losses, 171 IP, 9.11 K/9, 2.89 BB/9, 0.95 HR/9, .258 BABIP, 69.7% LOB%, 36.3 GB%, 9.0 HR/FB, 3.74 ERA, 3.42 FIP, 3.53 xFIP, and was worth 3.4 WAR.
Montero was a fan favorite, mashing in his limited time in New York, and mashing in his large amount of time in Scranton, where Yankees fans were begging for him to be promoted.
Montero projects as a DH to many in the future, but the Yankees were adamant that he could play catcher. We shall see where he lands.
Regardless, the Yankees now have a hole at the DH position, but also, the Yankees now have their #2 starter.
Wow. Thoughts?
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Wow, indeed.
Now if Montero struggles he is the Seattle’s problem…
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by Rorschach44 on Jan 13, 2012 7:43 PM EST reply actions 2 recs
maybe
this is a joke …. like the cliff lee trade
by Soriano NY 12 on Jan 13, 2012 8:49 PM EST up reply actions
I legit may never forgive them for this. They’ve done a lot of fucked up shit, but this might take the cake.
Jesus Montero fangirl
by WhatwouldJeterdo on Jan 13, 2012 7:43 PM EST reply actions
If Pineda works out?
"Don't you think it's strange that you'll make more money than President Hoover this year?"
"Why not? I had a better year than he did." - G.H. Ruth
it's the principle
You don’t give up the top fucking hitting prospect in all of baseball for this. It just doesn’t make sense.
Sigh. I’m done ranting. It’s done, and Pineda is young with some nice upside. He will improve the rotation and I wish him good luck.
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by nyyrocks29 on Jan 13, 2012 7:53 PM EST via iPhone app up reply actions
Bryce Harper?
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by SandalsNoPants on Jan 13, 2012 7:57 PM EST up reply actions
+1
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by Frank Campagnola on Jan 13, 2012 8:19 PM EST up reply actions
so
A top young mlb pitcher with a high floor and a true Ace caliber upside isn’t worth Montero?
I loved Montero too, but getting Pineda is an amazing thing that helps the team a ton
I don’t know about this if it’s true… Le sigh.
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Its all over twitter, its true
I hate Heyman but he usually dead on.
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by Brandon C. on Jan 14, 2012 2:43 AM EST via iPhone app up reply actions 1 recs
How is Pineda minus Montero
better than Kuroda or Oswalt for one year? or the rotation they have now? The thing is if they trade Montero, THEY DONT HAVE A DH
Prince Fielder!!!!!! Fuck this.
Jesus Montero fangirl
by WhatwouldJeterdo on Jan 13, 2012 7:45 PM EST up reply actions
What. The. Fuck.
THIS IS WHY WE CANT HAVE NICE THINGS
by jetanumba2 on Jan 13, 2012 7:46 PM EST up reply actions 3 recs
Cheaper and younger, projects as an ace too
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This stupid fucking team doesn’t deserve good prospects
by Jedi Master A-Rod on Jan 13, 2012 7:45 PM EST reply actions
This reaction is...a bit curious.
How high were you guys on Montero ever being behind the plate?
From an outsider, I’d think you guys come out ahead in a straight Montero – Pineda deal. The DH market is always very diminished, to the point where you can usually get a quality starter for one or two years on the relative cheap. Pineda may not be a perfect fit yet, but he’s got very nice upside and could well be at the top of your rotation for the next eight years.
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I agree with you
Should you choose to test my resolve in this matter, you will be facing a finality beyond your comprehension, and you will not be counting days, or months, or years, but milleniums in a place with no doors.
My position was if Posada could catch, anybody could catch. We could’ve dealt with Montero at catcher, and there’s room for him to improve.
"Don't you think it's strange that you'll make more money than President Hoover this year?"
"Why not? I had a better year than he did." - G.H. Ruth
He is better than a decent starter though
Perhaps they really see Sanchez as the catcher of the future.
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Wouldn't the inequality/equation be
“Cheap young potential slugger _ cheap young potential starter”?
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by Ben Buchanan on Jan 13, 2012 7:49 PM EST up reply actions
For his AGE 21 season, he posted a 3.4 FIP
Felix at the same age: 3.8
by PortlandYankee on Jan 13, 2012 7:52 PM EST up reply actions
Have you looked at his numbers in minors?
Its not like he was looked at as a potential #3 or #4 starter, smart baseball people had him as a #1 starter. This was a steal.
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if any yankee prospect
Had Pineda’s numbers in the minors or the majors, we would all be pissing ourselves in excitement.
take the pain out of losing Jesus and think objectively
Pretty much
The hardest player to get in on the market is a frontline starter.
If we just got Felix 2.0, big win for us.
by PortlandYankee on Jan 13, 2012 7:49 PM EST up reply actions
the thing is
he is not a Felix 2.0
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Says who?
Should you choose to test my resolve in this matter, you will be facing a finality beyond your comprehension, and you will not be counting days, or months, or years, but milleniums in a place with no doors.
He’s most likely gonna end up with future arm problems, he played in a bigger park, is not a groundball pitcher, I don’t like the deal right now. Who knows, maybe I’m just so disappointed by that fact that we don’t have baby Jesus anymore.
"You fucking loser!" - Sean Avery
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Pineda is NOTHING like Burnett
Pineda is a horse, and he throws hard. But I was so excited to see JM get 500 at bats this year :(
"Talent is God-given; be humble. Fame is man-given; be grateful. Conceit is self-given; be careful." John Wooden
Pineda is like Burnett in that he uses two pitches.
I’m not saying he is going to have a 5 ERA/FIP if that’s what you thought I meant.
felix had
2 pitches when he came up (fb, slider) and didn’t start using his other pitches until his 3rd year
So does that mean
Clayton Kershaw is like Burnett too? He only has two pitches (originally a fb/curve, but he dumped the curve and now throws fb/slider)
Montero is going to be a good overall catcher
and that’s defense. Kid’s got a cannon for an arm.
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How does Seattle end up getting Smoak and Montero in the end?
What the fuck is this shit.
by jetanumba2 on Jan 13, 2012 7:48 PM EST reply actions 2 recs
So, like WWJD mentioned above: Prince Fielder?
Wouldn’t surprise me a bit.
Just once I'd like someone to call me "Sir," without adding, "You're making a scene."
Yanks dont want to spend money, wouldnt shock me to see Damon brought back as the DH
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Yeah I mean now it might actually be possible. It’s not smart, but it’s entirely possible. Especially if the rumors about him getting a three year deal and then hitting the market again at 31 are true.
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by Frank Campagnola on Jan 13, 2012 7:50 PM EST up reply actions
WTF
You have to be fucking with me here. This is a fucking joke right? A joke? Please?
FUCK!!!!!!
Sorry for the cursing but I feel it’s necessary. FUCK!!!!!
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by nyyrocks29 on Jan 13, 2012 7:49 PM EST via iPhone app reply actions
People are going to have to get over the swearing for now. It’s fucking necessary.
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by WhatwouldJeterdo on Jan 13, 2012 7:49 PM EST up reply actions 3 recs
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by Frank Campagnola on Jan 13, 2012 7:50 PM EST up reply actions
FUCK!
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I'm sitting at work, just got the news...
And I just keep saying “fuck” over and over. I can’t think of anything else to say about this.
Well, good, because otherwise I might not be here much longer.
Jesus Montero fangirl
by WhatwouldJeterdo on Jan 13, 2012 7:59 PM EST up reply actions
Yeah, sorry, I’m not rooting against the Yankees.
"Don't you think it's strange that you'll make more money than President Hoover this year?"
"Why not? I had a better year than he did." - G.H. Ruth
This
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I most definitely am
I hope Montero tears them a new asshole as well as the rest of the league.
Last night, a comedian died in New York. Somebody knows why. Somebody knows
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
Nowadays everybody wanna talk, like they got something to say, but nothing comes out when they move their lips, just a bunch of gibberish and motherfu****s act like they forgot about Dre
by King Henry the 2nd on Jan 13, 2012 7:49 PM EST reply actions
What is happening??????????
WTF
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by Livestrong77nyy on Jan 13, 2012 7:49 PM EST reply actions
I like this trade
Montero will be a stud, but Pineda has a lot of potential and it’s a lot easier to add a bath through free agency.
Why are all you guys up in arms?
You got the better end of the deal. Pindea is a stud. You guys need pitching.. not hitting.
"Carter's 25-game hitting streak isn't any normal streak. He's 46 for 97 (.474 average) during the run, adding 16 walks and compiling 81 total bases in the process. I'm out of superlatives for what he's doing." - Kevin Goldstein
Yes, yes he is
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Not just me, but a million scouts and top baseball peeps
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Who is a guarantee?
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He had a decent year in a giant ballpark. I don’t know why anyone is falling all over themselves for him.
Jesus Montero fangirl
by WhatwouldJeterdo on Jan 13, 2012 7:54 PM EST up reply actions
He’s 22 and was the #16 prospect in baseball before 2011. There’s something to be said for that.
"Don't you think it's strange that you'll make more money than President Hoover this year?"
"Why not? I had a better year than he did." - G.H. Ruth
He 6-5 250 who throws easy 95...
Guy is a stud.
"Carter's 25-game hitting streak isn't any normal streak. He's 46 for 97 (.474 average) during the run, adding 16 walks and compiling 81 total bases in the process. I'm out of superlatives for what he's doing." - Kevin Goldstein
So is Montero!
"Carter's 25-game hitting streak isn't any normal streak. He's 46 for 97 (.474 average) during the run, adding 16 walks and compiling 81 total bases in the process. I'm out of superlatives for what he's doing." - Kevin Goldstein
Nice response.
Go educate yourself.
"Carter's 25-game hitting streak isn't any normal streak. He's 46 for 97 (.474 average) during the run, adding 16 walks and compiling 81 total bases in the process. I'm out of superlatives for what he's doing." - Kevin Goldstein
perhaps we did
but I wanted them to keep Montero. He’s good, he’s got huge upside (defensive problems aside), and most importantly he was our top prospect
yea....no..no we didn't
we got bent over and pumped right into the duodenum.
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by Chris McKeown on Jan 13, 2012 7:53 PM EST reply actions 2 recs
This is a great trade for the Yankees.
I can’t believe people are upset about this. Holy crap, you don’t have to depend on Hughes any more. Solid #2 to follow up CC, throw Nova and Burnett in there, and then Garcia, done deal. And Montero doesn’t clog the DH spot. Hitters will always come and go, but landing this young top notch pitcher is a STEAL. I wonder what other players are involved.
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The yungin's are just upset right now because the idea of Jesus was loved
around here. I think they’ll get over it. In the end, Montero spent one exciting month as a Yankee. One.
I’ll trust Cash and it’s gonna be a lot easier to fill a DH hole than find rotation help, which it looks like we filled tonight.
Don't think its a HORRIBLE deal
But I’m more sad than anything. It finally looked like we were going to have the next great star who made his way all the way through the system, and the BOOM he is gone. Its going to suck watching him win rookie of the year. Still, if Pineda turns into a stud, it will end up being a good move.
by Dylan87 on Jan 13, 2012 7:53 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
Pineda was worth 3.4 WAR and struck out over 9 per inning as a 22 year old last season
I’m guessing the feeling here is that this was basically his peak?
There is no hope.... there is no future....there is only BLUE WALLS.
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See that’s why I’m not quite willing to say it’s a terrible deal. I’m not sure if I’d have made it, but I don’t hate it.
"Don't you think it's strange that you'll make more money than President Hoover this year?"
"Why not? I had a better year than he did." - G.H. Ruth
Cant call it a terrible deal till we know the entire deal
If its even up, yanks got a steal.
Should you choose to test my resolve in this matter, you will be facing a finality beyond your comprehension, and you will not be counting days, or months, or years, but milleniums in a place with no doors.
It’s not even up. It’s stupid.
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by WhatwouldJeterdo on Jan 13, 2012 7:57 PM EST up reply actions
Where are you seeing this?
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by Chris McKeown on Jan 13, 2012 7:56 PM EST up reply actions
YES Network on Twitter just posted it.
Just once I'd like someone to call me "Sir," without adding, "You're making a scene."
Thanks, Steve.
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by Chris McKeown on Jan 13, 2012 7:57 PM EST up reply actions
You're welcome, Chris!
Just once I'd like someone to call me "Sir," without adding, "You're making a scene."
Just saw that. Jose Campos coming to NYY.
Just once I'd like someone to call me "Sir," without adding, "You're making a scene."
THis is essentially a prospect swap. our best prospect for their best prospect
But i’m just confused on the complete randomness of this deal
Friday the 13th?
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Not totally random
Mariners need offense. Jesus was much cheaper in $$$ than, say, Prince Fielder. Pineda was the price. Gotta give to get, and all that…
This Campos character better be AMAZING
No confirmation from team, but source says Mariners sending Pineda and Jose Campos to Yankees for Jesus Montero/Hector Noesi.
Noesi too?
damn..
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by Livestrong77nyy on Jan 13, 2012 7:57 PM EST up reply actions
Your lucky it was just Noesi.
"Carter's 25-game hitting streak isn't any normal streak. He's 46 for 97 (.474 average) during the run, adding 16 walks and compiling 81 total bases in the process. I'm out of superlatives for what he's doing." - Kevin Goldstein
by Syphon on Jan 13, 2012 7:58 PM EST up reply actions 4 recs
false
"Just trying to reload my weapon, you know?"-AA42
"I am an All-Pro, wait, that is a good thing right?"-JPP
by Livestrong77nyy on Jan 13, 2012 8:03 PM EST up reply actions
The Yankees must not believe that Jesus Montero can hack it catcher at all.
The belief must be f*cking strong. The deal isn’t horrible though. Pineda is pretty awesome, and the Yanks pitching coach has a new toy. CC, Pineda, Nova, spare parts could be epic this season. I never thought much of Noesi, if he’s included in this deal.
Was that not evident in September, though?
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by SandalsNoPants on Jan 13, 2012 7:56 PM EST up reply actions
Not liking the deal as much if included both Montero and Noesi
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eh...
Pineda will likely run into arm trouble within several years with his slider and i don’t think Montero and Noesi are worth that. only Montero would be one thing but him + Noesi = Mariners win this deal
one thing this could mean though is freeing up some room to sign Prince…
I'd like to thank the good Lord for making me a Yankee fan.
That’s not something that’s good, the Yankees kind of already have 1B and DH filled.
"Don't you think it's strange that you'll make more money than President Hoover this year?"
"Why not? I had a better year than he did." - G.H. Ruth
Fielder certainly won't play 1B a lot
but if he is signed he has a chance at hitting 40+ HR a year at Yankee Stadium. and DH is going to have to go to Jeter and A-Rod now a bit more that they’re older
I'd like to thank the good Lord for making me a Yankee fan.
The Yankees would still need to trade AJ away
to free up some money if they were even dreaming of having Prince. I would hate signing a DH to a huge contract though.
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by Livestrong77nyy on Jan 13, 2012 8:04 PM EST up reply actions
Nobody is going to take enough of AJ's contract for that to work
And I agree, a DH for a big money contract on this team isn’t a good idea. Even if it is Prince.
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Fielder hits bombs
He will hit the same number of homers no matter where he plays. He doesn’t hit cheapies.
I don’t want them to get Fielder though. He’ll require a big deal for a lot of years and they’ll have to DH A-Rod and Jeter a lot more in the next few years. It’s not worth it.
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Added a poll. I assure you we will cover this 24/7 and will make sense of it all. Actually, it doesn’t make sense.
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I’m considering finding Montero and locking him in my closet until April.
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by WhatwouldJeterdo on Jan 13, 2012 8:00 PM EST up reply actions
Saw him in manger last month, but
he was gone this morning when I drove by the park.
Good. The Spanish thing was going to be a problem for me.
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by WhatwouldJeterdo on Jan 13, 2012 8:02 PM EST up reply actions
My thoughts on Michael Pineda
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1N5p8IXzNdc
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by King Henry the 2nd on Jan 13, 2012 7:59 PM EST reply actions
The underrating of Pineda is pretty unreal in here.
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I agree
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Yankees just got bent over by the freaking Mariners
They might as well up the pieces and go after Felix
They tried and it wouldve been worse
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How? Pineda last year had an amazing rookie year
He pitched like a number 2 in his rookie season and his ceiling is over the top.
by lololol on Jan 13, 2012 8:01 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
I think its all because Montero is involved
I know my fellow Yankees fans are smarter than this
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Pineda is one of the best pitching porspects in a while
Campos is supposed to be a high ceiling guy. If we look past the the Jesus love it’s a pretty fair deal. Just completely out of the fucking blue.
This could be worse
At least they got an incredibly young pitcher with a lot of upside. It’s done people. I absolutely hate losing Montero but at least the rotation may have just turned into a strength of this team. A rotation of CC-Pineda-Nova-Burnett-Garcia is a pretty good rotation. Of course, this is likely the end of Phil Hughes in the Yankee rotation but at least the rotation got better today (trying to look at the positives).
Does anyone know how long Pineda is under team control?
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Five years
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by Frank Campagnola on Jan 13, 2012 8:01 PM EST up reply actions
Well that makes it a little better
I just went from absolutely hating it to seriously detesting it.
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Look at it objectively and ignore the jesus love
We traded a talented 21 year old hitter for a talented 22 year old pitcher.
So is Pineda now gonna get Russell Martin like hate?
Should you choose to test my resolve in this matter, you will be facing a finality beyond your comprehension, and you will not be counting days, or months, or years, but milleniums in a place with no doors.
He wont, this kid is the real deal
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i'm not gonna hate on him
i’ll support him because he’s a Yankee (if A-Rod wasn’t a Yankee i’d probably still hate him) but this deal has me thinking WTF a bit
I'd like to thank the good Lord for making me a Yankee fan.
Wait a minute...
Does this mean that RUSSELL FUCKING MARTIN is going to be this teams catcher of the future?
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Romine? Gary Sanchez? Who knows.
PS- I’m not sold on Romine at all.
"Don't you think it's strange that you'll make more money than President Hoover this year?"
"Why not? I had a better year than he did." - G.H. Ruth
I think Romine is just a backup, Sanchez is the guy they are counting on
Should you choose to test my resolve in this matter, you will be facing a finality beyond your comprehension, and you will not be counting days, or months, or years, but milleniums in a place with no doors.
Sanchez and Romine are still in the minors.
But the immediate future, absolutely.
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by Chris McKeown on Jan 13, 2012 8:02 PM EST up reply actions
I think Gary Sanchez is the catcher of the future
Should you choose to test my resolve in this matter, you will be facing a finality beyond your comprehension, and you will not be counting days, or months, or years, but milleniums in a place with no doors.
He's also 19
He has time.
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He was 18 in that season. Extremely impressive power production for someone that young.
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by Frank Campagnola on Jan 13, 2012 8:21 PM EST up reply actions
It’s certainly a very interesting trade. The Mariners have been lacking a catcher for years now and the Yankees get a player in return that’s under team control for a few years and could be phenomenal.
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by Chris McKeown on Jan 13, 2012 8:03 PM EST up reply actions
It's not that bad I guess
I just hate losing Montero and Pineda definitely wasn’t on my list of players to trade Montero rfor. But there are some positives to it.
It’s just the principle of the whole thing I guess. I have followed Jesus Montero ever since the Yankees signing him when he was 17 and I was really looking forward to a fully homegrown top notch Yankee prospect getting an opportunity in the majors. And they trade him away when I feel that Kuroda or Oswalt on a one year deal and keeping Montero would have been better. Or going aggressively after Darvish, or going after Hamels next year. I feel they could have improved the rotation within the next few years and still kept Montero on the team.
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Oh, I’d be shocked if it didn’t.
Jesus Montero fangirl
by WhatwouldJeterdo on Jan 13, 2012 8:04 PM EST up reply actions
YOU SAID "IT"!
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Steinbrenners have to help out their boy Boras
Fielder 10 $250M, Edwin Jackson 6 years $100M here we come
Pineda is 22 years old. Throws easy gas.
Ks more than 9 per 9 inning. Walks less than 3 batters per 9 innings. In the AL mind you. Guy is a stud.
"Carter's 25-game hitting streak isn't any normal streak. He's 46 for 97 (.474 average) during the run, adding 16 walks and compiling 81 total bases in the process. I'm out of superlatives for what he's doing." - Kevin Goldstein
I know theres a lot of Jesus love around here.
But this is a good deal for the “team”. You have plenty of offense. You need pitching.
"Carter's 25-game hitting streak isn't any normal streak. He's 46 for 97 (.474 average) during the run, adding 16 walks and compiling 81 total bases in the process. I'm out of superlatives for what he's doing." - Kevin Goldstein
It just sucks to lose a guy the community has followed since he was signed.
BSME
by Xavier10 on Jan 13, 2012 8:07 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
Yeah well...
Try being an A’s fan. Haha.
I get it tho. I felt the same way you do now when Giambi signed with you guys. So I can relate.
"Carter's 25-game hitting streak isn't any normal streak. He's 46 for 97 (.474 average) during the run, adding 16 walks and compiling 81 total bases in the process. I'm out of superlatives for what he's doing." - Kevin Goldstein
All good.
Billy Beane does this shit all the time. I have no idea what hes gonna do them BAM Hudson and Mulder are both gone in 12 HRs.
"Carter's 25-game hitting streak isn't any normal streak. He's 46 for 97 (.474 average) during the run, adding 16 walks and compiling 81 total bases in the process. I'm out of superlatives for what he's doing." - Kevin Goldstein
Thats not what is upsetting everybody
If the Yanks got King Felix for Montero even up, there would be upset peeps here. They loved Montero and thats cool but Yanks had to make this move.
Should you choose to test my resolve in this matter, you will be facing a finality beyond your comprehension, and you will not be counting days, or months, or years, but milleniums in a place with no doors.
Felix for Montero would suck for about 5 minutes. Pineda for Montero is going to suck a bit longer.
Jesus Montero fangirl
by WhatwouldJeterdo on Jan 13, 2012 8:09 PM EST up reply actions
Felix for Montero wouldn't suck period.
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by Tripodi on Jan 13, 2012 8:10 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
I know its upsetting but this Pineda kid is very good
Should you choose to test my resolve in this matter, you will be facing a finality beyond your comprehension, and you will not be counting days, or months, or years, but milleniums in a place with no doors.
Take out your emotions.
"Carter's 25-game hitting streak isn't any normal streak. He's 46 for 97 (.474 average) during the run, adding 16 walks and compiling 81 total bases in the process. I'm out of superlatives for what he's doing." - Kevin Goldstein
Then your only hurting yourself.
"Carter's 25-game hitting streak isn't any normal streak. He's 46 for 97 (.474 average) during the run, adding 16 walks and compiling 81 total bases in the process. I'm out of superlatives for what he's doing." - Kevin Goldstein
Well that’s what happens when you follow a kid from when he’s 16 and the team you pull for does everything to get rid of him.
Jesus Montero fangirl
by WhatwouldJeterdo on Jan 13, 2012 8:15 PM EST up reply actions
Like I said in another post.
Try being and A’s fan and realize how good you have it in NY. This is a good trade for your “Team”.
"Carter's 25-game hitting streak isn't any normal streak. He's 46 for 97 (.474 average) during the run, adding 16 walks and compiling 81 total bases in the process. I'm out of superlatives for what he's doing." - Kevin Goldstein
Yeah, it’s so great to watch prospects grow and have them traded away for the flavor of the week. Super fun.
Jesus Montero fangirl
by WhatwouldJeterdo on Jan 13, 2012 8:18 PM EST up reply actions
Thats why Im an A's fan.
Home grown winning teams are the best. Just wish we could get a new stadium.
"Carter's 25-game hitting streak isn't any normal streak. He's 46 for 97 (.474 average) during the run, adding 16 walks and compiling 81 total bases in the process. I'm out of superlatives for what he's doing." - Kevin Goldstein
I too followed Montero from the beginning
Totally shocked…my wife was scared someone died when she saw my face. To me its the craziest trade since we traded Wells for Clemons that too shocked me. We have a legit #2 but gave up a stud. Time will tell but I call it a draw. Praying Bichette Jr keeps whacking now!
by Kansas Yankee on Jan 13, 2012 10:31 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Trade
Here is why the Yankees probably traded Montero…He is a big guy…Bigger than Mauer and look at the problems he has…No way Montero plays catcher and no way he plays 1B so DH is the only position for him…Yankees can’t be held down on the spot cause of AROD and Jeter…If you want to get mad over any deal it should be AROD deal…
That ship has sailed, no use getting pissed over ARod deal, cant change it.
Should you choose to test my resolve in this matter, you will be facing a finality beyond your comprehension, and you will not be counting days, or months, or years, but milleniums in a place with no doors.
I agree 100%
Non Yankees fans are pissed that we pulled this deal off
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Still not enough money to sign him
would need to trade AJ away for that. Signing a dh to that large of a contract is not something you would want to do.
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by Livestrong77nyy on Jan 13, 2012 8:07 PM EST up reply actions
I’m thinking it’s a very real possibility.
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by Frank Campagnola on Jan 13, 2012 8:07 PM EST up reply actions
Where would he play?
"Carter's 25-game hitting streak isn't any normal streak. He's 46 for 97 (.474 average) during the run, adding 16 walks and compiling 81 total bases in the process. I'm out of superlatives for what he's doing." - Kevin Goldstein
DH
and spell Tex
Lance Pendleton's biggest and only fan. And now he plays for the Astros so... BARN'S CHEERLEADER 4EVAR!!
You guys need that DH spot for..
Tex/Arod/Jeter…
"Carter's 25-game hitting streak isn't any normal streak. He's 46 for 97 (.474 average) during the run, adding 16 walks and compiling 81 total bases in the process. I'm out of superlatives for what he's doing." - Kevin Goldstein
Tex does not need to DH often, he is a good defensive 1b
Jeter and Ardo need days off yeah… short term deal would be good, but not going to happen
Lance Pendleton's biggest and only fan. And now he plays for the Astros so... BARN'S CHEERLEADER 4EVAR!!
Yeah I know Tex is a gold glover..
But he still needs a day off every now and again. Arod will prob only play 3rd 3-4 times a week. And Jeter should prob only play SS 4-5 times a week. So having that DH spot is a good thing.
"Carter's 25-game hitting streak isn't any normal streak. He's 46 for 97 (.474 average) during the run, adding 16 walks and compiling 81 total bases in the process. I'm out of superlatives for what he's doing." - Kevin Goldstein
He'd make it impossible for them to reach their 2014 payroll goal
Unless they really aren’t serious about that I doubt we see Prince this year. I’m interested on who becomes the DH though.
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I dont
I think the EJax talks were the smokescreen. Yanks can pick up another bat like Damon’s on the cheap.
Should you choose to test my resolve in this matter, you will be facing a finality beyond your comprehension, and you will not be counting days, or months, or years, but milleniums in a place with no doors.
Is there anything this post is missing? I’m trying like crazy to get all the info together, anything I missed?
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I added more on Campos. I think it’s pretty up to date right now.
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by Frank Campagnola on Jan 13, 2012 8:07 PM EST up reply actions
Links to grief counseling would be nice
We loved Montero… He was our boy. The trade makes sense but without hints it was a bomb
Lance Pendleton's biggest and only fan. And now he plays for the Astros so... BARN'S CHEERLEADER 4EVAR!!
I hope Siri doesn't have directions to the nearest bridge/cliff.
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Just checked out the Mariners blog
Fans over there are really upset about losing Campos. Looks like we may have just added another good pitching prospect.
We did.
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by Frank Campagnola on Jan 13, 2012 8:07 PM EST up reply actions
The only thing holding him back right now is his age, it seems. He’s young.
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by Frank Campagnola on Jan 13, 2012 8:07 PM EST up reply actions
Fuck...he's 2 months younger than me =(
"You fucking loser!" - Sean Avery
"Just reload my weapon, you know?" - Artem Anisimov
The future is looking bright boys.
Youth is a good thing,lol
Should you choose to test my resolve in this matter, you will be facing a finality beyond your comprehension, and you will not be counting days, or months, or years, but milleniums in a place with no doors.
lol I know!
But that means I should’ve been traded to the Yanks by now! haha
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The future is looking bright boys.
How did you know this!
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by Brandon C. on Jan 14, 2012 2:47 AM EST via iPhone app up reply actions
I'm less surprised than I might have thought
I’ve suspected for a while (like others here) that the Yankees didn’t truly trust Montero as their long-term answer at Catcher. Certainly, it’s nice to add a piece like Pineda, especially when the team’s goal was to add pitching
Lots of eggs being put in young/uncertain pitching baskets (unless there’s fire with the Edwin Jackson smoke). Not totally sure how I feel about that…
The rotation has the possibility of being formidable in the future
I just hate that the Yankees traded away the youngest and most explosive bat in a lineup full of 30-year-olds.
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by Livestrong77nyy on Jan 13, 2012 8:12 PM EST reply actions
I love Johnny Damon so I probably could live with that
The numbers suggest he’s not that good anymore though. Maybe being a Yankee playing in YS again will rejuvenate him but he wouldn’t be the hitter he was in 2009 again.
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How are we feeling right now?
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by WhatwouldJeterdo on Jan 13, 2012 8:14 PM EST up reply actions
oh?
can i come?
Lance Pendleton's biggest and only fan. And now he plays for the Astros so... BARN'S CHEERLEADER 4EVAR!!
woo.
so new sig will be?
Lance Pendleton's biggest and only fan. And now he plays for the Astros so... BARN'S CHEERLEADER 4EVAR!!
hey, I lost MAH BOY
so…
Lance Pendleton's biggest and only fan. And now he plays for the Astros so... BARN'S CHEERLEADER 4EVAR!!
Way too soon.
Jesus Montero fangirl
by WhatwouldJeterdo on Jan 13, 2012 8:18 PM EST up reply actions
There might not be enough booze in the world for this.
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Great!
Should you choose to test my resolve in this matter, you will be facing a finality beyond your comprehension, and you will not be counting days, or months, or years, but milleniums in a place with no doors.
Still in shock
tomorrow I will feel better about it
Lance Pendleton's biggest and only fan. And now he plays for the Astros so... BARN'S CHEERLEADER 4EVAR!!
confused...
"You fucking loser!" - Sean Avery
"Just reload my weapon, you know?" - Artem Anisimov
The future is looking bright boys.
Stunned
But after looking at the deal and calming down it’s better than I thought.
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I am going to have to watch video of
Superbowl 42, 96’ world series, and the 94 Stanley Cup to make me feel better.
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"I am an All-Pro, wait, that is a good thing right?"-JPP
by Livestrong77nyy on Jan 13, 2012 8:15 PM EST up reply actions
As a Rangers fan, I guess that is your only real highlight of the past 70 years…
"Don't you think it's strange that you'll make more money than President Hoover this year?"
"Why not? I had a better year than he did." - G.H. Ruth
This current Rangers season is a nice highlight
and the story is yet to be finished.
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by Livestrong77nyy on Jan 13, 2012 8:21 PM EST up reply actions
The next 5+ years are looking amazing
Now the Rangers are a perfect example of a great young home grown team.
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"Just reload my weapon, you know?" - Artem Anisimov
The future is looking bright boys.
I don’t think it’s that bad. Pineda is a good pitcher already and Campos is only 19 and a nice pitching prospect. Yes it really sucks losing Montero, but if those pitchers pan out, I won’t dislike it. Again, not sure that’ I’d do the deal, but whatever.
Noesi I really don’t care much about. He’s Nova-lite.
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Two things that I think should be discussed
It’s done, but this has created questions for this team too. What happens to Hughes, and who do they get to be their temporary DH?
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Campos put up great numbers albeit at a low level
“Campos, 19, went 5-5 with a 2.32 ERA at Low-A Everett, starting 14 games. He struck out 85 and walked 13 in 81 1/3 innings.”
http://eye-on-baseball.blogs.cbssports.com/mcc/blogs/entry/22297882/34359956
Nice
I like this kid.
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A.J. Burnett's only fan!
This rips your fucking heart out, we spend years waiting for this kid to come mash in the Bronx and he gets yanked out at the last second. It’s like going thru the preparations for having a baby and then in the ninth month finding out it’s not yours. But, putting the emotions aside Pineda and Campos can be huge members of this team for a long time and the Yanks have lots of catchers in the system. Hate to see Jesus go but this is for the best.
It's that the world is basically a forced labor camp from which the workers, perfectly innocent, are led forth by lottery, a few each day, to be executed.
I don't think that's just the way I see it. I think that's the way it is. Are there alternative views? Yes. Will any of them stand close scrutiny? No.
by memitim on Jan 13, 2012 8:13 PM EST via mobile reply actions 1 recs
HOW COULD THEY TRADE HIM!!!! I just don’t understand.
This was a horrible deal. Yes, this came out of nowhere, but Pineda? If they traded for a pitcher, it should have been a bona-fide #2, or even a #1. Couldn’t they have pulled off a deal for Kershaw or somebody? I don’t mean to overvalue Montero, but he was the best hitting prospect ever for the Yankees and the best in all of baseball. You can throw out Harper’s name as the best all around prospect, but Montero was definitely the better hitter!!!!!!
HORRIBLE DEAL!!!!!
They decided on a young borderline #2 with the potential to be a #1
He’s got a great arm. I’d have held onto Montero but this wasn’t as horrible a deal as I thought it was when I first looked at it. Especially when they get Campos as well.
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Pineda really tailed off at the end of last season after never throwing more than 140 innings in the minors (5.35 ERA in 12 starts after July 1).
He’s got a great arm with frontline potential and that string of bad starts could very well be an aberration (his FIP was considerably better over that stretch), but we’ll have to see if he can put a full 200+ innings together. I wouldn’t have been much inclined to move Montero, but a young power arm exploding with talent is the best return that we could have hoped for.
by Lord Duggan on Jan 13, 2012 8:14 PM EST reply actions 2 recs
After reading some of the earlier takes on this deal, this comment is refreshing
Should you choose to test my resolve in this matter, you will be facing a finality beyond your comprehension, and you will not be counting days, or months, or years, but milleniums in a place with no doors.
And that’s why I don’t hate this.
"Don't you think it's strange that you'll make more money than President Hoover this year?"
"Why not? I had a better year than he did." - G.H. Ruth
Montero could be a great hitter in this league.
Of course now people will say his stats will suck because he’s going from Yankee Stadium to Safeco.
The ERA looks like bad luck.
He ran into some HR trouble, and that’s really the only bit that looked concerning to me. His K rate went up, but his LOB% dropped considerably to an unsustainable level. Stealing from DRB’s Jason Collette here because it’s easily at hand, there’s not much to worry about, especially considering that his HR rate was almost non-existent until AAA in 2010.
April-June:
8.7 K/9
2.8 BB/9
0.7 HR/9
6% HR/FB
77% LOB
.260 BABIP
Jul-Sep
9.7 K/9
3.0/ BB/9
1.3 HR/9
14% HR/FB
58% LOB rate
.290 BABIP
I’m not a fanboy, I’m an awesome dude
by Jason Collette on Jan 14, 2012 7:53 AM CST up reply actions
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by SandalsNoPants on Jan 14, 2012 9:20 AM EST up reply actions
counting eggs idiom here.
Lance Pendleton's biggest and only fan. And now he plays for the Astros so... BARN'S CHEERLEADER 4EVAR!!
I'm not convinced the last three reach the majors before being traded
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We would have to get pretty lucky
Thats a lot of young talent. Its so good that Nova isn’t even in that rotation lol.
If the Yankees trade ManBan, I’m just really done with the minors. It hurts too much.
Jesus Montero fangirl
by WhatwouldJeterdo on Jan 14, 2012 12:06 AM EST up reply actions
This deal kind of reminds of the Beckett for Hanley deal
Both teams really got what they needed and wanted.
Should you choose to test my resolve in this matter, you will be facing a finality beyond your comprehension, and you will not be counting days, or months, or years, but milleniums in a place with no doors.
Beckett wasn’t as young as Pineda
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"Why not? I had a better year than he did." - G.H. Ruth
I know, but it was a win-win
Should you choose to test my resolve in this matter, you will be facing a finality beyond your comprehension, and you will not be counting days, or months, or years, but milleniums in a place with no doors.
Beckett was better though
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And Hanley was a SS, not a DH
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by SandalsNoPants on Jan 14, 2012 9:21 AM EST up reply actions
And Beckett was more expensive, salary-wise.
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by SandalsNoPants on Jan 14, 2012 9:22 AM EST up reply actions
At least the Yankees didnt overpay for Edwin Jackson
or an aging Roy Oswalt. Just wished we kept Montero and signed Kuroda instead.
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by Livestrong77nyy on Jan 13, 2012 8:19 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
Cant believe Ms wouldnt take Joba/Romine for Pineda
Should you choose to test my resolve in this matter, you will be facing a finality beyond your comprehension, and you will not be counting days, or months, or years, but milleniums in a place with no doors.
Sarcasm my friend,lol
Should you choose to test my resolve in this matter, you will be facing a finality beyond your comprehension, and you will not be counting days, or months, or years, but milleniums in a place with no doors.
This isn't like the almost Lee deal
They just got a 23 year old starting pitcher with #1 ability. They lost a great hitter but this is just as much a long term move as it is a move to help them win now.
I'll do whatever it takes to win games, whether it's sitting on a bench waving a towel, handing a cup of water to a teammate, or hitting the game-winning shot.- Kobe Bryant
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WOW
JackCurryYES Jack Curry
Big night for the Yankees. They have agreed to a 1-year deal with Kuroda, pending a physical. Deal will be between $10 and $11 million.
Wow WTF?
This had better mean they DFA Garcia. If Nova gets kicked out of the rotation I’m bringing an army of vicious chimps to Yankee Stadium.
I'll do whatever it takes to win games, whether it's sitting on a bench waving a towel, handing a cup of water to a teammate, or hitting the game-winning shot.- Kobe Bryant
A.J. Burnett's only fan!
Holy shit
Yanks have awoken
Should you choose to test my resolve in this matter, you will be facing a finality beyond your comprehension, and you will not be counting days, or months, or years, but milleniums in a place with no doors.
This all smells of Steindork panic.
Jesus Montero fangirl
by WhatwouldJeterdo on Jan 13, 2012 8:24 PM EST up reply actions
Not at all
Pineda is not Ken Phelps
Should you choose to test my resolve in this matter, you will be facing a finality beyond your comprehension, and you will not be counting days, or months, or years, but milleniums in a place with no doors.
Now we have more arms than rotation spots
and no DH. I like me some Kuroda though.
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by Livestrong77nyy on Jan 13, 2012 8:24 PM EST up reply actions
Burnett is gone if this happens.
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by Frank Campagnola on Jan 13, 2012 8:27 PM EST up reply actions
And only nyyrocks is sad.
Jesus Montero fangirl
by WhatwouldJeterdo on Jan 13, 2012 8:28 PM EST up reply actions
Wow
Amazing what calming down will do. I actually don’t mind this deal all that much. I love what the Yankees got back for him. Two really good pitchers.
I’ll miss Montero though. I wish him good luck in Seattle.
I'll do whatever it takes to win games, whether it's sitting on a bench waving a towel, handing a cup of water to a teammate, or hitting the game-winning shot.- Kobe Bryant
A.J. Burnett's only fan!
Pineda is gonna be a big time pitcher
Kid is frigging huge, we wont lose any brawls,lol
Should you choose to test my resolve in this matter, you will be facing a finality beyond your comprehension, and you will not be counting days, or months, or years, but milleniums in a place with no doors.
If this will directly prevent the imminent resigning of Sergio Mitre, I'll like it even more!
I'll do whatever it takes to win games, whether it's sitting on a bench waving a towel, handing a cup of water to a teammate, or hitting the game-winning shot.- Kobe Bryant
A.J. Burnett's only fan!
Yanks needed to make these moves
AL East is improving and we cant rely on the patchwork rotations any longer. They needed a true number 2 and we now have a #2 and a #3.
Should you choose to test my resolve in this matter, you will be facing a finality beyond your comprehension, and you will not be counting days, or months, or years, but milleniums in a place with no doors.
Sox didnt have a full rotation but the team that made the playoffs did
The Rays not only have good pitching, but they have more on the way. Its not just Yanks/Sox any longer. Blue jays can also mash and Garcia/Colon inst going to get it done any longer.
Should you choose to test my resolve in this matter, you will be facing a finality beyond your comprehension, and you will not be counting days, or months, or years, but milleniums in a place with no doors.
The Rays play in tropicana field
Last year they scored more runs on the road than the yankees. I’m not joking.
by benderbrodriguez on Jan 13, 2012 9:26 PM EST up reply actions
The Rays had an above average offense, and it's getting better.
They were 6th in the HR in ISO (last in the AL East, though) in 2011.
They were 5th in ISO in the AL (4th in the AL East, though) in 2011.
Those might be backwards, but whatever. Damon has already been replaced with Scott, Fuld/Ruggiano has been replaced full time by Jennings, and hopefully Longoria won’t miss a month, so it’s looking to get even better.
It’s funny how people underrate the Rays’s offense. Seems just because the pitching is so good, it gets all the attention, but the offense last season had the 4th most fWAR in the AL, 4.6 fWAR behind the Yankees.
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by SandalsNoPants on Jan 14, 2012 9:30 AM EST up reply actions
Sorry for all the double posting.
I had a much longer post typed out, but it only double posted the header. In short, the Rays had an above average offense in 2011, in the AL they were 6th in HR, 5th in ISO, and 4th in fWAR, only 4.6 fWAR behind the 3rd place Yankees.
Damon replaced by Scott and Fuld/Ruggiano replaced by Jennings full time are improvements. Also, if Longoria doesn’t miss a month, they’re right up there with the best. Not really sure where the idea that the Rays have no offense comes from.
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by SandalsNoPants on Jan 14, 2012 9:34 AM EST up reply actions
True
I’m kind of worried about Nova though. He deserves a rotation spot but with both AJ and Garcia guaranteed rotation spots by Girardi and Cashman, that would mean that Hughes and Nova get booted. And I’m sorry, that can’t happen.
AJ will be in the rotation no matter what because of his contract if he’s on the team, but I could see them going back on the Garcia promise. I’d love a rotation of CC-Pineda-Kuroda-Nova-AJ.
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I feel like I was running around with my hair on fire earlier. I really was a huge fan of Hey-Zeus though..
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by Livestrong77nyy on Jan 13, 2012 8:25 PM EST up reply actions
Thoughts
http://www.pinstripealley.com/2012/1/13/2706115/immediate-thoughts-about-the-montero-pineda-trade
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CC, Pineda, Kuroda, Nova, and Hughes
Nowadays everybody wanna talk, like they got something to say, but nothing comes out when they move their lips, just a bunch of gibberish and motherfu****s act like they forgot about Dre
by King Henry the 2nd on Jan 13, 2012 8:25 PM EST reply actions 2 recs
I'm pretty sure Cashman guaranteed AJ a rotation spot
Unless he somehow gets traded.
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I actually think it's a possibility now
Because with the surplus of arms he may lower his demands in terms of price. I’d still bet on AJ being on the team but I think there’s a legit chance he gets dealt now (which honestly would break my heart!!!)
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by WhatwouldJeterdo on Jan 13, 2012 8:26 PM EST reply actions
One bullet dodged at least
I don’t understand why Yankees management can’t see how MUCH the fans LOVE the homegrown guys over the big time free agents. Donnie Baseball, Bernie, Jeter, Mo, Andy, Jorge are some of the most beloved Yankees of the past 30 years and they are ALL homegrown. Guys like A-Rod, Giambi and Sheffield are tolerated, but are not the homegrown guys fans love to root for. Montero had me thinking he might be the next. THAT is why I am disappointed in this deal.
by nj23nut on Jan 13, 2012 9:06 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
This
I know they may not be the BEST, but they’re special. I wanted to be able to watch his career from start to finish.
Our four man playoff rotation is going to be nasty
CC
Pineda
Kuroda
Nova
Wow.
You guys should be doing back flips after the last 3 hrs.
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You cant win without good pitching. We can always find hitting, pitching is hard to find.
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Especially a 22 year old ace with 5 years of team control
we had one of the best offense without montero playing last year
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Cards had no pitching?
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In the postseason, not really.
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Better than what we had
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Cards had four starters with ERAs under 4.
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by Frank Campagnola on Jan 13, 2012 8:37 PM EST up reply actions
I know but the pitching didn’t show up in the playoffs, which is where everyone says pitching wins.
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"Why not? I had a better year than he did." - G.H. Ruth
Why? Just because we traded montero?
Pineda is a 22 year old with incredible upside and one amazing year in his belt. If he continues he’s a bonafide ace. Montero is nice, but if he’s anything but a catcher his value is pretty meh.
This
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Yeah, fire him after acquiring two great pitchers
Teams always should keep prospects, because prospects ALWAYS work out.
There is no hope.... there is no future....there is only BLUE WALLS.
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FMart and Lastings Milledge say hi,lol
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This makes no sense at all
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by Brandon C. on Jan 14, 2012 2:51 AM EST via iPhone app up reply actions
Oh dear, what?
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It's a line from Community.
Just felt like using it. You can ignore it.
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The Yankees are clearly attempting to get into contention for the next 10-15 years through the rotation.
It’s obvious. CC, Pineda, Nova, then Hughes, Man Ban, Betances all with some potential.
It could work. It could also be a mega fail. Time will tell.
They are on the right track though
Its always easier to find hitting than it is to find a young stud pitcher.
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Im shocked he is on the Yanks
Followed this kid for a few years and wished we had an up and comer like him, now we do.
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Now what do I call Jesus Montbearo?
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by WhatwouldJeterdo on Jan 13, 2012 8:28 PM EST up reply actions
Damn Montero is gone
and Hughes might get booted from the rotation by Garcia and AJ. Sad day for Yankees super prospects.
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by Livestrong77nyy on Jan 13, 2012 8:28 PM EST reply actions
The Garcia resigning makes less and less sense after today
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The Yankees should honestly cut him now
or maybe the create a super bullpen by putting Hughes in it while still having Joba waiting in the wings.
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by Livestrong77nyy on Jan 13, 2012 8:30 PM EST up reply actions
Why cut him?
He can be traded and you also can never have too much SP depth. Look at the Sox in 11, did they have enough?
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Hughes now a middle reliever just about
sums up the value of “super prospects”
7 man rotation this year!!!
CC
Pineda
Kuroda
Nova
Hughes
Garcia
Burnett
Hughes is probably off that list before Kuroda even goes for his physical
And I’m absolutely praying that Garcia gets cut or sent to the pen and this doesn’t cause Nova to be send to the minors.
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Dislike that thought.
Just once I'd like someone to call me "Sir," without adding, "You're making a scene."
They can't send Nova to the minors
He was definitely our #2 last year.
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The future is looking bright boys.
Well Nova finished strong
when we sent him down he was pretty average. He came back with a vengeance and solidify his spot.
I'm really late here,
but what the HELL is this?
by BrooksBridges11 on Jan 13, 2012 8:30 PM EST reply actions
What? Nothing to see here. Business as usual...
Just once I'd like someone to call me "Sir," without adding, "You're making a scene."
When they get traded somewhere else
by Jedi Master A-Rod on Jan 13, 2012 8:33 PM EST up reply actions
I would say “at least I still have ManBan”, but that’s a joke.
Jesus Montero fangirl
by WhatwouldJeterdo on Jan 13, 2012 8:34 PM EST up reply actions
You gonna chance your sig at some point?
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yeah
what kind of fools asks that now…
Lance Pendleton's biggest and only fan. And now he plays for the Astros so... BARN'S CHEERLEADER 4EVAR!!
If you like prospect...
NYY isnt you best choice of teams to follow them on.
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Nova
But his and Hughes’ chances could be going the same place Joba’s chance did.
I guess Cano counts.
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by Brandon C. on Jan 14, 2012 2:53 AM EST via iPhone app up reply actions
If anybody needs some cheering up, this is the lastest post on Over the Monster
“Yankees sign Hiroki Kuroda
We’re in serious trouble."
by Dylan87 on Jan 13, 2012 8:35 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
LOL
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Maybe they could get FMart from the Stros too
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i'm not surprised though
considering cashman loves mr .220 russell martin
Boone Logan is a good boy. So is David Robertson. Team A.J.
We're not giving up montero because of martin
we’re giving him up because they saw a chance to nab a guy who they project to be an ace.
Martin now blamed for trade for an ace, LOL
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Im not sure half the people here do know who he is
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i do
i watch 130 games a year. i just don’t think pineda = montero in terms of value.
Boone Logan is a good boy. So is David Robertson. Team A.J.
A 22 year old guy projected by scouts as an ace for a DH
Yup, thats not an = deal.
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yeah let's completely discount his offensive potential as if it's something you can easily find
Boone Logan is a good boy. So is David Robertson. Team A.J.
You can find a DH a lot easier than an ace
Its no given this kid was going to stick at C, if he didnt he isnt as valuable. Cashman sold high, while he still could.
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You can't find a guy who hits 40 home runs a lot easier than an ace.
And it’s very possible Montero does this.
Boone Logan is a good boy. So is David Robertson. Team A.J.
no way in seattle
that ballpark is one of the biggest
by NJ Champ on Jan 13, 2012 8:55 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
Not anymore
He isnt hitting 40 in Seattle. Yanks dont need 40 HRs, they need pitching.
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1/$10 for Kuroda.
Jesus Montero fangirl
by WhatwouldJeterdo on Jan 13, 2012 8:39 PM EST reply actions
I don't like that they had to give up Montero
But I am glad they finally got some pitching.
All the overreacting in here is really fun, though. I’ve missed PSA in the offseason.
Like I said, I don't like seeing him go
But he obviously wasn’t progressing enough as a catcher for them to hold onto him. Now, we wait and see what happens with Romine, Sanchez, and the other Catcher depth in the farm system.
Carlos Pena likely now.
It's that the world is basically a forced labor camp from which the workers, perfectly innocent, are led forth by lottery, a few each day, to be executed.
I don't think that's just the way I see it. I think that's the way it is. Are there alternative views? Yes. Will any of them stand close scrutiny? No.
Heyman is talking about it, which means it has high probability. He’d love the short porch and the Yanks get him back for a one year deal. One thing is clear, they are dead serious about this $189mm by 2014.
It's that the world is basically a forced labor camp from which the workers, perfectly innocent, are led forth by lottery, a few each day, to be executed.
I don't think that's just the way I see it. I think that's the way it is. Are there alternative views? Yes. Will any of them stand close scrutiny? No.
You dont have to spend big money on an EJax
You can find cheap hitting(Pena, Maggs, Damon) easier than cheap good SPs.
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Better chance of one of us playing for the Yanks this year
I truly believe Yanks are tired of paying luxury tax and arent going to be adding any more big contracts.
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I also would like Yanks to do like Marlins in the future
No more NO TRADE clauses.
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Option for 2013 for 13 mil
Lance Pendleton's biggest and only fan. And now he plays for the Astros so... BARN'S CHEERLEADER 4EVAR!!
Not a tough decision unless they can get AJax back,lol
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I think thats all they give him
Think Yanks arent going to be in the big contract business as much in future years.
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Not until after 2014 at least. Still, $189mm is not bad. Now if Clownhead Levine would stay out of things it would be a lot easier.
It's that the world is basically a forced labor camp from which the workers, perfectly innocent, are led forth by lottery, a few each day, to be executed.
I don't think that's just the way I see it. I think that's the way it is. Are there alternative views? Yes. Will any of them stand close scrutiny? No.
Cant stand that ugly bastard
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He has screwed this team up anytime he gets involved with the players, especially bringing back Alex to that ridiculous contract to make his Goldman buddies happy.
It's that the world is basically a forced labor camp from which the workers, perfectly innocent, are led forth by lottery, a few each day, to be executed.
I don't think that's just the way I see it. I think that's the way it is. Are there alternative views? Yes. Will any of them stand close scrutiny? No.
If I was Cashman I wouldve probably quit over that deal
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Yep. Tied his hands for years while complely usurping Cashman's whole plan. I would rather see Randy go than Cash.
It's that the world is basically a forced labor camp from which the workers, perfectly innocent, are led forth by lottery, a few each day, to be executed.
I don't think that's just the way I see it. I think that's the way it is. Are there alternative views? Yes. Will any of them stand close scrutiny? No.
Not trading Jesus for a player that costs money now or in the next couple of years. No E-Jax, likely no Hamels FA signings. One year DH deals.
It's that the world is basically a forced labor camp from which the workers, perfectly innocent, are led forth by lottery, a few each day, to be executed.
I don't think that's just the way I see it. I think that's the way it is. Are there alternative views? Yes. Will any of them stand close scrutiny? No.
We'll still go after Hamels...
Mo & AJ & Kuroda & Garcia will be off the books by 2014. That’s $45 million…more than enough for Hamels.
by PortlandYankee on Jan 13, 2012 9:39 PM EST up reply actions
not if we're seriously going after this ridiculous $189 million payroll in 2014
Boone Logan is a good boy. So is David Robertson. Team A.J.
Id prefer Damon
Think we already will meet our K’s quota.
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how old is pineda
and whats his contract status
by NJ Champ on Jan 13, 2012 8:40 PM EST via Android app reply actions
23 with I bleive 5 years of team control left.
It's that the world is basically a forced labor camp from which the workers, perfectly innocent, are led forth by lottery, a few each day, to be executed.
I don't think that's just the way I see it. I think that's the way it is. Are there alternative views? Yes. Will any of them stand close scrutiny? No.
thats great
at least they didn’t trade Montero for Matt Latos or John Danks. Pineda should be a real ace.
by NJ Champ on Jan 13, 2012 8:43 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
This
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Im glad, this was a better deal
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M’s are fools.
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They are building quite a young lineup but Im always against trading away pitching like this
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They have a nice young team but this is a head scratcher
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any chance yanks go after prince?
lol. probably not likely but who do you think we get that can fill the DH spot
Nah, they still want to trim payroll
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wow is all I can say
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by nolesbroncos3456 on Jan 13, 2012 8:41 PM EST via Android app reply actions
Pineda certainly made this team a lot older
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Only if Suzyn can make the announcement
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?
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A one year deal for a guy coveted by plenty of teams
Its a cant lose deal
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help!
how do you use the sarcasm font again?
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The future is looking bright boys.
My first reaction was NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
Then YES
Now I don’t know what to think
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Same
I was pissed, then I thought that Pineda could be great, but then went back to worse when I realized that he might not turn out to be a #1 ace, then saw that Jose Campos guy is also pretty good…I just miss baby Jesus
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The future is looking bright boys.
Think of it this way
Pineda already has one year proven to be a stud while Montero has a SSS of good but memorable ABs. No one really knows where both guys will end up, but both team are willing to take a chance in filling an area of need.
If both reach their full potential
Pineda plus Campos means a lot more to the Yanks then Montero and Noesi
by NJ Champ on Jan 13, 2012 8:48 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
well when we do something, we do it big
why? we’re the mothereffing Yankees, that’s why
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by nolesbroncos3456 on Jan 13, 2012 8:48 PM EST via Android app reply actions 1 recs
So...
CC
Nova
Pineda
Barnett
Kuroda
Hughes and Freddy duke ot out for number five if Barnett gets moved.
It's that the world is basically a forced labor camp from which the workers, perfectly innocent, are led forth by lottery, a few each day, to be executed.
I don't think that's just the way I see it. I think that's the way it is. Are there alternative views? Yes. Will any of them stand close scrutiny? No.
Of course.
It's that the world is basically a forced labor camp from which the workers, perfectly innocent, are led forth by lottery, a few each day, to be executed.
I don't think that's just the way I see it. I think that's the way it is. Are there alternative views? Yes. Will any of them stand close scrutiny? No.
Actually he means Barndon.
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I can pitch
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Video?
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yes
Of you pitching 3 perfecting innings against the Rangers. so I could love you as much as lance…
Lance Pendleton's biggest and only fan. And now he plays for the Astros so... BARN'S CHEERLEADER 4EVAR!!
I’m so confused!
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"Every day is a great day for hockey."
Old reference mentioned once, from like June or July
My memory is odd
Lance Pendleton's biggest and only fan. And now he plays for the Astros so... BARN'S CHEERLEADER 4EVAR!!
I will take a rotation of (Girardi nickname time) "CC, Piney, Rokey, Ivy, and...
5th hole actually stumps me. Hopefully they trade AJ, but if not, would he be 5? If not him, would Freddy? Or Hughes?
How can they even move AJ if they offered $8 million with him and still have nobody buying?
They don't, unless they lower the demand
And I think that they’ll get more value keeping him rather than value from what they get back for him AND paying his entire salary.
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Im guessing AJ is pretty soon on his way off your team,lol
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Burnett isn't going anywhere unless we eat like 70% of his contract
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by nolesbroncos3456 on Jan 13, 2012 8:52 PM EST via Android app reply actions
no they won't
they’re not going to dump $32 million so some rookie can try his hand at the 5 spot
Boone Logan is a good boy. So is David Robertson. Team A.J.
Forget about Nova?
"Don't you think it's strange that you'll make more money than President Hoover this year?"
"Why not? I had a better year than he did." - G.H. Ruth
1 CC 2 Pineda 3 Kuroda 4 Nova 5 AJ
what am i missing?
Boone Logan is a good boy. So is David Robertson. Team A.J.
How could you forget Freddy???
Just once I'd like someone to call me "Sir," without adding, "You're making a scene."
because i was at ALDS game 2
and that was painful
Boone Logan is a good boy. So is David Robertson. Team A.J.
one positive note though
i was present for the last triple jorge posada ever hit in his career
Boone Logan is a good boy. So is David Robertson. Team A.J.
See? That's the spirit!
Just once I'd like someone to call me "Sir," without adding, "You're making a scene."
freddy is promised a spot i believe
Lance Pendleton's biggest and only fan. And now he plays for the Astros so... BARN'S CHEERLEADER 4EVAR!!
if he's not promised a spot
i like him as the long man
Boone Logan is a good boy. So is David Robertson. Team A.J.
Hughes, Freddy, JOBA. (ducks)
It's that the world is basically a forced labor camp from which the workers, perfectly innocent, are led forth by lottery, a few each day, to be executed.
I don't think that's just the way I see it. I think that's the way it is. Are there alternative views? Yes. Will any of them stand close scrutiny? No.
I don't have faith in Hughes at all. TO TEH PENNNNNNN
Along with Joba. And i wouldn’t mind seeing Freddy be our long man
Boone Logan is a good boy. So is David Robertson. Team A.J.
I want to see Hughes in ST after the strength and conditioning program he did in the off season. Not ready to give up on him in the rotation. Too much talent.
It's that the world is basically a forced labor camp from which the workers, perfectly innocent, are led forth by lottery, a few each day, to be executed.
I don't think that's just the way I see it. I think that's the way it is. Are there alternative views? Yes. Will any of them stand close scrutiny? No.
i don't doubt he's talented
i just don’t think he’s built for the starting rotation. look at 2010 – he was a totally different pitcher after he threw 100 innings. and then this season, he had arm fatigue. i just don’t think strength and conditioning can completely overcome natural shortcomings.
Boone Logan is a good boy. So is David Robertson. Team A.J.
He wasn’t in great shape in camp last year and wound up overcompensating for it thus getting hurt. This year he apparently has put on some muscle and if he can get his fastball around 95mph consistently and continue dropping that curve I would prefer to see him to AJ in the rotation.
It's that the world is basically a forced labor camp from which the workers, perfectly innocent, are led forth by lottery, a few each day, to be executed.
I don't think that's just the way I see it. I think that's the way it is. Are there alternative views? Yes. Will any of them stand close scrutiny? No.
i hope he is better, and i appreciate your optimism
but i would still prefer to have AJ in the rotation
Boone Logan is a good boy. So is David Robertson. Team A.J.
I appreciate your continued faith in AJ. It is commendable.
It's that the world is basically a forced labor camp from which the workers, perfectly innocent, are led forth by lottery, a few each day, to be executed.
I don't think that's just the way I see it. I think that's the way it is. Are there alternative views? Yes. Will any of them stand close scrutiny? No.
It seems like Cash sat down with Boras the other day before making this move. If E-Jax could have been a Yankee under their terms I believe he would be right now. Boras is impossible.
It's that the world is basically a forced labor camp from which the workers, perfectly innocent, are led forth by lottery, a few each day, to be executed.
I don't think that's just the way I see it. I think that's the way it is. Are there alternative views? Yes. Will any of them stand close scrutiny? No.
idk
i just think that cashman was set on a 1 year deal, and jackson probably said no thanks, i’ll take a 3 year deal instead.
Boone Logan is a good boy. So is David Robertson. Team A.J.
Three years creeps into 2014. That wasn’t going to happen for E-Jax.
It's that the world is basically a forced labor camp from which the workers, perfectly innocent, are led forth by lottery, a few each day, to be executed.
I don't think that's just the way I see it. I think that's the way it is. Are there alternative views? Yes. Will any of them stand close scrutiny? No.
that doesn't make boras impossible though
jackson wants more than a one year deal. he’ll get more than one year elsewhere. boras is usually a great scapegoat, but i don’t think in this situation.
Boone Logan is a good boy. So is David Robertson. Team A.J.
What I mean is if the Yanks really wanted E-Jax they could have worked out a multi year deal that was front loaded. It is funny that practically hours after Cash’s meeting with Boras this deal goes down. It seems there was a game of chicken and Scott didn’t even know Cash was playing.
It's that the world is basically a forced labor camp from which the workers, perfectly innocent, are led forth by lottery, a few each day, to be executed.
I don't think that's just the way I see it. I think that's the way it is. Are there alternative views? Yes. Will any of them stand close scrutiny? No.
lol touche
i’ve always been an AJ fan even when everyone hated him. you gotta admit, burnett can be dominant when he’s on. when he’s not, he’s bad.
Boone Logan is a good boy. So is David Robertson. Team A.J.
i think he could've gone longer
but it was do or die, so we threw all our best relievers
Boone Logan is a good boy. So is David Robertson. Team A.J.
Hey, I remember in his first year when he put up zeros against Boston for 7 2/3’s and I was pumped about him. I still would love to see him do well, we just can’t have another year like last year.
It's that the world is basically a forced labor camp from which the workers, perfectly innocent, are led forth by lottery, a few each day, to be executed.
I don't think that's just the way I see it. I think that's the way it is. Are there alternative views? Yes. Will any of them stand close scrutiny? No.
I would be very happy to get 2009 AJ back..
It's that the world is basically a forced labor camp from which the workers, perfectly innocent, are led forth by lottery, a few each day, to be executed.
I don't think that's just the way I see it. I think that's the way it is. Are there alternative views? Yes. Will any of them stand close scrutiny? No.
I was at Old Timer's Day in 2010
the game he blew up and punched the wall and girardi brought in dustin moseley. i still liked AJ even after that. He rewarded my loyalty by signing a ball for me at this year’s old timer’s day.
Boone Logan is a good boy. So is David Robertson. Team A.J.
You couldn't read the signature, though...
…because his hand had been broken.
Just once I'd like someone to call me "Sir," without adding, "You're making a scene."
his hand hasn't been broken for an entire year
and admittedly, his signature wasn’t the cleanest
Boone Logan is a good boy. So is David Robertson. Team A.J.
Would you like pepper with that?
It's that the world is basically a forced labor camp from which the workers, perfectly innocent, are led forth by lottery, a few each day, to be executed.
I don't think that's just the way I see it. I think that's the way it is. Are there alternative views? Yes. Will any of them stand close scrutiny? No.
That makes no sense.
It's that the world is basically a forced labor camp from which the workers, perfectly innocent, are led forth by lottery, a few each day, to be executed.
I don't think that's just the way I see it. I think that's the way it is. Are there alternative views? Yes. Will any of them stand close scrutiny? No.
What were you expecting them to do about Soriano?
"Don't you think it's strange that you'll make more money than President Hoover this year?"
"Why not? I had a better year than he did." - G.H. Ruth
montero trade
Frankly this is a Yankee panic move.With the available pitching on the free agent mkt. it makes absolutely no sense.We have given up our catcher/dh for now and the future for what a possible starter ? plus we threw in Noesi ? Why ??
Could be the first he's seeing of this.
Your first reaction wasn’t good either.
OMG.
IDIOTS.
by DCyanks21 on Jan 13, 2012 8:19 PM EST
Now we’re going to sign fatty.
Pineda NO.
by DCyanks21 on Jan 13, 2012 8:22 PM EST
"Don't you think it's strange that you'll make more money than President Hoover this year?"
"Why not? I had a better year than he did." - G.H. Ruth
He was talking about Ms all along? Ha
Should you choose to test my resolve in this matter, you will be facing a finality beyond your comprehension, and you will not be counting days, or months, or years, but milleniums in a place with no doors.
Panic move for a 22 year old stud that throws gas?
EJax wouldve been a panic move. Danks wouldve been a panic move. This was genius.
Should you choose to test my resolve in this matter, you will be facing a finality beyond your comprehension, and you will not be counting days, or months, or years, but milleniums in a place with no doors.
Because Pineda looks like a future stud
i mean would you trade montero for like Kershaw after his first year?
This
People will calm down. I calmed down pretty quickly but it was just such a shock.
I'll do whatever it takes to win games, whether it's sitting on a bench waving a towel, handing a cup of water to a teammate, or hitting the game-winning shot.- Kobe Bryant
A.J. Burnett's only fan!
This.
ALL of this came out of nowhere and I mean nowhere.
Just once I'd like someone to call me "Sir," without adding, "You're making a scene."
too add on
Kershaw also had a 39% gb rate in his second year while walking 4+ per 9 and didn’t pitch 200+ innings until his third year…
Noesi would have had no place on this team anyway
by NJ Champ on Jan 13, 2012 9:00 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
No panic. Pineda is a solid number and Campos is just a hair below Betances as a prospect. There are three other potential catchers in the Yankee system in Sanchez, Romine, and JR Murphy, also no guarantee with Jesus’ size he would stay behind the plate. Nowhere else for him to go. There are a lot of DH’s out there any given year. They done good here no matter how much it hurts to see Jesus go.
It's that the world is basically a forced labor camp from which the workers, perfectly innocent, are led forth by lottery, a few each day, to be executed.
I don't think that's just the way I see it. I think that's the way it is. Are there alternative views? Yes. Will any of them stand close scrutiny? No.
I really can't understand the Russell Martin hate
Its not like the dude wants to be bad at hitting, he’s not trying any less than anyone else. Its not his fault the Yanks decided to trade your favorite player
Plus Montero on his best day couldnt be Martin on his worst day behind the plate
Defense with a poor avg and 20 HRs is fine from the C position
Should you choose to test my resolve in this matter, you will be facing a finality beyond your comprehension, and you will not be counting days, or months, or years, but milleniums in a place with no doors.
He hit 18 last year
So Im 2 off
Should you choose to test my resolve in this matter, you will be facing a finality beyond your comprehension, and you will not be counting days, or months, or years, but milleniums in a place with no doors.
18 homers
with a .320 OBP / .400 SLG are empty calories. He hit 18 homers but only 35 XBH. He was swinging for the fences most of the season and it showed.
He also was fine early on, I think Girardi playing him like an ironman was the problem
Id rather have a battery of Pineda/Martin than EJax/Montero.
Should you choose to test my resolve in this matter, you will be facing a finality beyond your comprehension, and you will not be counting days, or months, or years, but milleniums in a place with no doors.
I would if you look at the money that wouldve been involved with EJax
Yanks are a better team tonight, thats all that matters.
Should you choose to test my resolve in this matter, you will be facing a finality beyond your comprehension, and you will not be counting days, or months, or years, but milleniums in a place with no doors.
maybe when you add money into the equation, i agree
but still, we spent $10 million on kuroda that we could’ve spent on Edwin
Boone Logan is a good boy. So is David Robertson. Team A.J.
EJax wasnt coming here on a 1yr 10mil deal
We wouldve given him a deal close to AJs, which none of us wouldve been happy with.
Should you choose to test my resolve in this matter, you will be facing a finality beyond your comprehension, and you will not be counting days, or months, or years, but milleniums in a place with no doors.
I would rather make the trade than make that deal
Should you choose to test my resolve in this matter, you will be facing a finality beyond your comprehension, and you will not be counting days, or months, or years, but milleniums in a place with no doors.
I'd rather have just stuck with Kuroda only and kept Jesus
But whats done is done. This isn’t a bad trade and Pineda has the ability to be a real beast. I can’t pretend I’m not excited about it. I just am disappointed that Jesus is gone.
I'll do whatever it takes to win games, whether it's sitting on a bench waving a towel, handing a cup of water to a teammate, or hitting the game-winning shot.- Kobe Bryant
A.J. Burnett's only fan!
Dont sleep on Campos either, kid could be really good
Should you choose to test my resolve in this matter, you will be facing a finality beyond your comprehension, and you will not be counting days, or months, or years, but milleniums in a place with no doors.
he's a stud! no, he's a prospect! relax, kids...
pineda is a stud AND a prospect. that’s the way i see it, at least. i feel pretty much the same as you, nyrocks29: i was high on a 1-year veteran stopgap while we groom the kids. BUT, in pineda, you get to have a stud performer who ‘s also got room to grow, sort of the best of both worlds (ideally). hard to hate on this deal, especialy if campos also turns out to be what may people think he’s got the potential to be… both pineda and montero may well suffer some growing pains, i think, but you know what they say: aces don’t grow on trees. the conventional wisdom favoring high-ceiling pitchers over high-ceiling position players suggests that this was actually a coup for the yanks… still hope jesus mashes, INCLUDING against the yanks…
by sing_or_die_1818 on Jan 14, 2012 10:42 PM EST up reply actions
Really?!
Should you choose to test my resolve in this matter, you will be facing a finality beyond your comprehension, and you will not be counting days, or months, or years, but milleniums in a place with no doors.
Id rather have championships instead of empty stats
Should you choose to test my resolve in this matter, you will be facing a finality beyond your comprehension, and you will not be counting days, or months, or years, but milleniums in a place with no doors.
Nelson Cruz is
Should you choose to test my resolve in this matter, you will be facing a finality beyond your comprehension, and you will not be counting days, or months, or years, but milleniums in a place with no doors.
Made me sick, Cruz is on my main fantasy team, Im a big fan of his
I’ll just blame Washington,lol
Should you choose to test my resolve in this matter, you will be facing a finality beyond your comprehension, and you will not be counting days, or months, or years, but milleniums in a place with no doors.
Yup, history just tends to repeat itself
Kinda like 86 when Buckner shouldve been out of the game.
Should you choose to test my resolve in this matter, you will be facing a finality beyond your comprehension, and you will not be counting days, or months, or years, but milleniums in a place with no doors.
it might actually be worse
Buckner should have made that play anyway. A better defender would have made that catch at the wall
True
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No player WANTS to be bad
that is dumb. I hate Russell Martin because he sucks and the team is in love with him because he knows how to squat correctly.
Except that he was like the best defensive catcher in the AL last year?
Or at least in the top 2-3, if I remember correctly. Threw out baserunners at one of the better rates in the league as well?
Dont let facts get in the way of a good story
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Doesnt a defensive catcher save runs? So wouldnt it equal out?
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there’s a difference between Posada and a guy with no arms. Montero was not a guy with no arms. We lived with Posada for awhile.
Saying Montero is going to be Posada is nuts though
Based on a few years in the minors and a some games after a callup, Montero is going to put up HOF numbers? Montero will be a better hitter than Martin, thats for sure but Im fine with Martin till one of the other kids like Sanchez is ready.
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god.
no we are talking about defense. My point was he offers both. He has a bat and he can field well enough to make Martins + glove and – bat a marginal upgrade if at all.
Every scout in the game other than the ones here on PSA....
…dont see Montero sticking as a C. Aspiring to play to Posada’s defensive levels do nothing for me. I dont even think scouts think he will reach that status. Im hoping he doesnt now so we can steal at will on him,lol.
Should you choose to test my resolve in this matter, you will be facing a finality beyond your comprehension, and you will not be counting days, or months, or years, but milleniums in a place with no doors.
If Martin actually hit well
then yes. But i’d rather have Montero for now and move him to another position if we have to. We have the depth to take the chance. oh well.
Nowhere to put him though
If anything peeps shouldnt hate on Pineda or Martin, they should hate on Tex, ARod and Jeter for Montero leaving. Yanks never wanted Montero as the everyday DH because of the old guys on the left side of the field. And he couldnt be at 1B because of the dumb no trade clause.
Should you choose to test my resolve in this matter, you will be facing a finality beyond your comprehension, and you will not be counting days, or months, or years, but milleniums in a place with no doors.
Well I figured we'd give him a few years
then he could be like V-Mart. I’m already starting to hate Tex
Quick, get him a fucking participation ribbon because he tries hard
by Jedi Master A-Rod on Jan 13, 2012 9:02 PM EST up reply actions
There are no losers--everyone gets a trophy
Just once I'd like someone to call me "Sir," without adding, "You're making a scene."
Never underestimate squatting correctly
Just once I'd like someone to call me "Sir," without adding, "You're making a scene."
That fact that he doesn’t want to be bad at hitting doesn’t make it easier for me to tolerate that he is bad at hitting.
But MAN, does he call a good game or what?
Jesus Montero fangirl
by WhatwouldJeterdo on Jan 13, 2012 9:08 PM EST up reply actions
I can taste the bitter from here
Lance Pendleton's biggest and only fan. And now he plays for the Astros so... BARN'S CHEERLEADER 4EVAR!!
This opens the door to Manny in Pinstripes.
Boone Logan is a good boy. So is David Robertson. Team A.J.
you clearly haven't seen his latest pool workout
i’m most certainly impressed by his efforts and think he’s ready to do damage in the AL East
Boone Logan is a good boy. So is David Robertson. Team A.J.
conservative.
play hard ball with him. i like it.
Boone Logan is a good boy. So is David Robertson. Team A.J.
As of now I’m kind of bummed only because I really liked Montero and I thought he was a really once in a lifetime prospect. Who knows he could end up with the Yankees as a FA. This move will probably make more sense after the season starts when we continue to score runs and our pitching is much better
This.
Plus a 3rd if Campos pans out.
Just once I'd like someone to call me "Sir," without adding, "You're making a scene."
LETS NOT TALK ABOUT THE TRADE TO TALK ABOUT WHO THE PEOPLE VOTED AS THE BEST #13 IN BASEBALL YOU GUYS
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Definitely. Extremely disappointing.
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Sad they didn't come to mind when I heard of the trade.
Figured they wouldn’t think of it as big news.
is it live?
Lance Pendleton's biggest and only fan. And now he plays for the Astros so... BARN'S CHEERLEADER 4EVAR!!
They should break into what they are doing when trades happen
Should you choose to test my resolve in this matter, you will be facing a finality beyond your comprehension, and you will not be counting days, or months, or years, but milleniums in a place with no doors.
I agree they should
But I don’t think that is MLBN’s role yet. They have only been around 3 years now.
Lance Pendleton's biggest and only fan. And now he plays for the Astros so... BARN'S CHEERLEADER 4EVAR!!
what is their role?
they aren’t just the Yankeeography network. They have enough dumb shows as it is.
Daily recaps and List shows. Replay classic games. They have their scheduled programming, and other networks are built to handle this type of news. Maybe in years to come MLBN will be more fresh
Lance Pendleton's biggest and only fan. And now he plays for the Astros so... BARN'S CHEERLEADER 4EVAR!!
I would hope the network run by the fucking league would be more than list shows...
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NFL Network is better that MLBN
If we are starting a list,lol
Should you choose to test my resolve in this matter, you will be facing a finality beyond your comprehension, and you will not be counting days, or months, or years, but milleniums in a place with no doors.
To be fair
Nba came out in 99, NFL in 03, NHL (America) in 07, MLB in 09. So considering that we get live look ins and the occasional game is nice
Lance Pendleton's biggest and only fan. And now he plays for the Astros so... BARN'S CHEERLEADER 4EVAR!!
Why would they want to do that?
NBA tv and NFL network have made bank following that strategy and they set the stage. We live in a copycat world.
Lance Pendleton's biggest and only fan. And now he plays for the Astros so... BARN'S CHEERLEADER 4EVAR!!
Uh, NFL Network shows games that networks pay billions to air...
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Ha, so true
Should you choose to test my resolve in this matter, you will be facing a finality beyond your comprehension, and you will not be counting days, or months, or years, but milleniums in a place with no doors.
NBA tv is terrible
their daytime tv is absolutely horrendous.
Boone Logan is a good boy. So is David Robertson. Team A.J.
Yea
I like their analysis of actual games and their fan night stuff is good but their daytime stuff is absolutely horrible. At least MLB Network actually has some good daytime programming sometimes.
I'll do whatever it takes to win games, whether it's sitting on a bench waving a towel, handing a cup of water to a teammate, or hitting the game-winning shot.- Kobe Bryant
A.J. Burnett's only fan!
I think they actually play Teen Wolf during the day
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lol
And not the Michael J. Fox version
Just once I'd like someone to call me "Sir," without adding, "You're making a scene."
Who here is very AGAINST this trade?
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Depends if Pineda is 1st half Pineda for his career
or 2nd half Pineda.
I was looking forward to 15 years of Jesus mashing the shit out of the ball in Yankee Stadium. But if we can get 10+ years of an ace out of Pineda I think that bodes well for the future.
If booze isn't your thing, I've acquired some phone numbers.
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Grief Counselors or Prostitutes?
and noonoo did say she was hating vodka on the 11th
Lance Pendleton's biggest and only fan. And now he plays for the Astros so... BARN'S CHEERLEADER 4EVAR!!
you have phone numbers for narcotics?
I may or may not be in…
Lance Pendleton's biggest and only fan. And now he plays for the Astros so... BARN'S CHEERLEADER 4EVAR!!
I would if my car wasn't in the shop
Lance Pendleton's biggest and only fan. And now he plays for the Astros so... BARN'S CHEERLEADER 4EVAR!!
I was drunk
And planning on getting drunker. Now I’ll just sit at my computer until I pass out.
by long time listener on Jan 13, 2012 9:54 PM EST up reply actions
I look forward to your drunken posts.
Should be entertaining.
sixseasonsandamovie
♬P-p-pocket full of Hawthrones.♪
I found some bourbon
Now I want to write a poem to Jesus.
by long time listener on Jan 13, 2012 10:05 PM EST up reply actions
I want to see what slurring looks like in words.
sixseasonsandamovie
♬P-p-pocket full of Hawthrones.♪
On rum it looks like three conversations that go around in circles taking turns
and lots of extra key strokes.
Lance Pendleton's biggest and only fan. And now he plays for the Astros so... BARN'S CHEERLEADER 4EVAR!!
I'LL STROKE YOU!
Don’t mess with me on Trade Jesus Night!
by long time listener on Jan 13, 2012 10:11 PM EST up reply actions
I DON'T!
I JUST DRINK UNTIL PEOPLE DON’T WANT TO BE AROUND ME! ASK IGYAR! EVERY TIME I’VE SEEN HIM I’VE GOTTEN DRUNK!
by long time listener on Jan 13, 2012 10:19 PM EST up reply actions
You will?
I normally don’t go for that but… if you are offering
Lance Pendleton's biggest and only fan. And now he plays for the Astros so... BARN'S CHEERLEADER 4EVAR!!
SURPRISE
Friday the thirteenth, it is a lucky day!!! Those years of waiting to see Montero in pinstripes? Hey, we got a month or two. Turning him into a deity? Of course this was going to happen today.
Lance Pendleton's biggest and only fan. And now he plays for the Astros so... BARN'S CHEERLEADER 4EVAR!!
Got home from work tired as can and now u lay this shit on me what ever shall I do with my montero jersey ;(
by alweezy61 on Jan 13, 2012 9:13 PM EST via Android app reply actions
It goin on ebay :( if he becomes a superstar it will be worth more cuz it will be know as the jersey he wore before he became elite cashman will be know as the guy who traded jesus
by alweezy61 on Jan 13, 2012 9:21 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
Oh and it has the stein bros written all over this trade cash would have never traded jesus for that guy unless felix was coming maybe a reunion is in the works 2014 we await ur arival patiently.
by alweezy61 on Jan 13, 2012 9:15 PM EST via Android app reply actions
wrong
i think this shows that Cash is in control….because we didn’t go out and give E-Jax 60 million dollars…he got a young stud pitcher…then got another starter….and now our rotation is a major strength for years to come.
This is true I just read we offred a whole bunch of players for the king of pitchers and they didnt budge :( we got the other pitcher instead of the pitcher
by alweezy61 on Jan 13, 2012 9:30 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
LOVE THIS DEAL
Pineda is better than people think. He has the potential to be very special and a potential #1. He’s already very good. Yanks view Montero as a DH. We can fill a DH very easily. Starting pitching is soooo hard to find. Especially YOUNG starting pitching. I love it. SP>DH. Pineda has just as good a chance as being a #1 as Montero has of being a complete stud. Once again, SP>DH. I can’t believe the reaction is so against this deal.
I kiddingly asked for proof that "people really really liked Montero."
Just once I'd like someone to call me "Sir," without adding, "You're making a scene."
bad call
1. if youre gonna trade montero you better get someone better than pineda
2. how is our dh? – looks like hughes and/or nova are on their way out too (lets face it, nobody wants aj)
Sign Carlos Pena now, yay or nay?
I expect the answer I have to be the popular choice. Let’s see if I’m right!
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Why hate him?
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He could spell Tex at 1st occasionally
Just once I'd like someone to call me "Sir," without adding, "You're making a scene."
For cheap and one year? Sure.
Solid OBP 4 of last five years. fWar over 2 in those years. High WAR of 6, low of 1.1. Projects well.
Lance Pendleton's biggest and only fan. And now he plays for the Astros so... BARN'S CHEERLEADER 4EVAR!!
what about
jorge vazquez….AAA….32 hr last year.
nooners dh?
You must expect him to have a breakout year? or are insane?
Lance Pendleton's biggest and only fan. And now he plays for the Astros so... BARN'S CHEERLEADER 4EVAR!!
i don’t think theyll do it. we’ll prolly get C. Pena or i wouldnt mind giving Prince a 3 year deal and let him test the market again when hes 31 since the market now isnt there. he might not be ready for full time DH though. I think Nunez is underrated but it’d allow Jete and A-Rod to DH alot. Nunez would have to improve his D a little bit if that were the case. A fulltime DH would really fill the spot for a-rod and jete
Not opposed to it if the terms are right
Just once I'd like someone to call me "Sir," without adding, "You're making a scene."
There has to be better options
Should you choose to test my resolve in this matter, you will be facing a finality beyond your comprehension, and you will not be counting days, or months, or years, but milleniums in a place with no doors.
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I think he is just late to the party/funeral
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sorry
What I meant to say was “MOTHERFUCKINGSOCKERSUCKERFUCKERFUCKER!”
by long time listener on Jan 13, 2012 9:46 PM EST up reply actions
regardless of your politics
you should check this out:
http://www.myspace.com/georgebushisafuckencunt/music/songs/the-name-of-our-band-demo-16920722
listen to “bastard muthafucker arsehole”
Boone Logan is a good boy. So is David Robertson. Team A.J.
what if tebow saves us from the mayan end?
Lance Pendleton's biggest and only fan. And now he plays for the Astros so... BARN'S CHEERLEADER 4EVAR!!
nor do i
but that would be exciting
Lance Pendleton's biggest and only fan. And now he plays for the Astros so... BARN'S CHEERLEADER 4EVAR!!
He’d be exciting if he got caught in a seedy motel with 8 hookers and a needle in his foot
by Jedi Master A-Rod on Jan 13, 2012 9:39 PM EST up reply actions
YES
can you arrange this?
Lance Pendleton's biggest and only fan. And now he plays for the Astros so... BARN'S CHEERLEADER 4EVAR!!
Hopefully that preachy twunt gets hit by a bus before I have to intervene
by Jedi Master A-Rod on Jan 13, 2012 9:41 PM EST up reply actions
Hmm. Maybe not even then
Just once I'd like someone to call me "Sir," without adding, "You're making a scene."
Yikes
I certainly hope not
Just once I'd like someone to call me "Sir," without adding, "You're making a scene."
Agreed.
While the downfall would be nice, I would rather it not be at the expense of children
Lance Pendleton's biggest and only fan. And now he plays for the Astros so... BARN'S CHEERLEADER 4EVAR!!
Me neither
Anybody rooting for crap like that to happen really needs some help
Should you choose to test my resolve in this matter, you will be facing a finality beyond your comprehension, and you will not be counting days, or months, or years, but milleniums in a place with no doors.
i don't know anyone who is rooting for that
i hope you’re not suggesting i am. i’m merely saying i think it’s quite possible it happens.
Boone Logan is a good boy. So is David Robertson. Team A.J.
no, its not.
less than 1%. I hate tebow, both as a chargers fan and as a someone who doesnt feel religion needs to be a focal point of any public debate. but he is at worst a decent person.
Lance Pendleton's biggest and only fan. And now he plays for the Astros so... BARN'S CHEERLEADER 4EVAR!!
bit of a reach
i know many a gay-bashing man (I spend a lot of time in Utah) who do not fall into this theory, several a racist, and a couple of other bigots.
Lance Pendleton's biggest and only fan. And now he plays for the Astros so... BARN'S CHEERLEADER 4EVAR!!
no one suspected sandusky was a pedophile until recently...
Boone Logan is a good boy. So is David Robertson. Team A.J.
really? no one?
I am sure a few children did.
Lance Pendleton's biggest and only fan. And now he plays for the Astros so... BARN'S CHEERLEADER 4EVAR!!
oh come on
obviously the victims knew. you know what i’m suggesting – that looks can be deceiving. in 25 years come find me if i’m wrong and i’ll buy you a beer.
Boone Logan is a good boy. So is David Robertson. Team A.J.
I don't like Beer, I like vodka.
But I do see what you are saying. I doubt he will turn out a Sandusky, but if he has a Tom Cruise or Vin Diesel level of suspicion (gay) around him i would not be shocked. Or if he ends up an addict once he has failed for the last time.
Lance Pendleton's biggest and only fan. And now he plays for the Astros so... BARN'S CHEERLEADER 4EVAR!!
fair enough, i'll get you some grey goose. but if i win you owe me a beer
i’ll stick to my shock top. regardless, we can talk about the good old days, back when we had to type our thoughts out on pinstripe alley and how much more convenient it is now that you can just think something and the computer spits it out for you.
Boone Logan is a good boy. So is David Robertson. Team A.J.
I told you I like chopin and if lacking $ skyy
what do you like?
Lance Pendleton's biggest and only fan. And now he plays for the Astros so... BARN'S CHEERLEADER 4EVAR!!
Not bad vodka.
I have a romanticized past with Chopin, part of the reason I like it. It is good stuff, but not the healthiest breakfast.
Lance Pendleton's biggest and only fan. And now he plays for the Astros so... BARN'S CHEERLEADER 4EVAR!!
i'll take a shock top if i'm getting you grey goose.
if you want chopin then i’ll take a spaten.
or we could both have some genny cream ale. even if you don’t like beer that shit is legit and super cheap lol.
Boone Logan is a good boy. So is David Robertson. Team A.J.
Cheap vodka and cheap beer for our deal
betting high stakes on the morbid seems wrong today
Lance Pendleton's biggest and only fan. And now he plays for the Astros so... BARN'S CHEERLEADER 4EVAR!!
ever have genny cream ale?
if you’re not from the north east then i don’t think you can easily get it. i highly recommend it though – very good for being so damn cheap.
Boone Logan is a good boy. So is David Robertson. Team A.J.
I have not, I spend most of my time in Vegas and Utah
but for $5 I can get a bottle of doc wells amaretto and there is not much better than that for the price :]
Lance Pendleton's biggest and only fan. And now he plays for the Astros so... BARN'S CHEERLEADER 4EVAR!!
Loved baseball when I was younger but fell away
Started watching with my friend after classes every day in Vegas. Fell in love with the history the Yanks had, but still just was a baseball fan. Joba reeled me in, and now I am dedicated, and if not lifelong, diehard.
Lance Pendleton's biggest and only fan. And now he plays for the Astros so... BARN'S CHEERLEADER 4EVAR!!
ahhh Joba
i still have hope for him. i have a pinstripe joba jersey. i remember going to a game with a bunch of my friends on the first sunday of the season back in april 2008. joba threw a 101 mph fastball and the sound of that ball hitting posada’s glove echoed throughout the stadium. people went nuts. it was awesome. i miss that joba.
Boone Logan is a good boy. So is David Robertson. Team A.J.
i don't plan on making much money in the next 25 years.
Boone Logan is a good boy. So is David Robertson. Team A.J.
i don't plan on making much money in the next 25 years.
Boone Logan is a good boy. So is David Robertson. Team A.J.
It amazes me how this kid is hated for being a good kid while a POS like Vick is lauded
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He’s hated because ESPN won’t shut the fuck up about him no matter how much he fails
by Jedi Master A-Rod on Jan 13, 2012 9:54 PM EST up reply actions
I hate the hype around him, I hate the media attention, and I hate that his crappy team is in the playoffs when the damned chargers cant string together a decent season. I don’t hate Tebow the person, I hate Tebow the entity
Lance Pendleton's biggest and only fan. And now he plays for the Astros so... BARN'S CHEERLEADER 4EVAR!!
Pineda does nothing for you?
"Don't you think it's strange that you'll make more money than President Hoover this year?"
"Why not? I had a better year than he did." - G.H. Ruth
not right now
it’s more demand. I demand him to be good otherwise this will suck even more. If Pineda really becomes a stud then that’s one thing
a legitimate 5 man rotation isn't exciting?
Boone Logan is a good boy. So is David Robertson. Team A.J.
Really!?
Should you choose to test my resolve in this matter, you will be facing a finality beyond your comprehension, and you will not be counting days, or months, or years, but milleniums in a place with no doors.
We did?
I cant see anyone agreeing with this.
Should you choose to test my resolve in this matter, you will be facing a finality beyond your comprehension, and you will not be counting days, or months, or years, but milleniums in a place with no doors.
seriously?
We had a rotation. We even had a second rotation in AAA. then we had one year signings. The Red Sox don’t even had a legit starting five and have no depth
I can.
Banuelos or Betances could come up, or Warren or Phelps. CC, Nova, AJ, Freddy, Good, not great.
Lance Pendleton's biggest and only fan. And now he plays for the Astros so... BARN'S CHEERLEADER 4EVAR!!
The Bs arent ready to join the rotation
The Yanks rotation had lots of questions. There was no #2 till tonight.
Should you choose to test my resolve in this matter, you will be facing a finality beyond your comprehension, and you will not be counting days, or months, or years, but milleniums in a place with no doors.
I guess the Yanks did
Should you choose to test my resolve in this matter, you will be facing a finality beyond your comprehension, and you will not be counting days, or months, or years, but milleniums in a place with no doors.
Last time they did, we won a title
Should you choose to test my resolve in this matter, you will be facing a finality beyond your comprehension, and you will not be counting days, or months, or years, but milleniums in a place with no doors.
You're being too harsh in this thread about the deal.
Sit down, look up some numbers, think of the future rotation, and come back to here. Try not to be happy with the trade.
4 potential aces.
People don't have to like the deal
It fucking sucks.
by Briceratops on Jan 13, 2012 10:52 PM EST up reply actions
I'm with you.
Anyone agreeing with we had a good rotation is a huge homer.
I mean we were lucky to have Garcia and Colon put up that production.
the future
our future rotation is getting younger and better…and CHEAPER…which allows to spend money on our offense…..go CASH.
Nice stat from our new #2
@jaysonst: What RHP held opposing righthanded hitters to the lowest batting avg. in baseball last year? Yessir, Michael Pineda (.184)
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facts like this are great
it is a shame that they will be lost while we grieve
Lance Pendleton's biggest and only fan. And now he plays for the Astros so... BARN'S CHEERLEADER 4EVAR!!
overrated perhaps
but not useless
Lance Pendleton's biggest and only fan. And now he plays for the Astros so... BARN'S CHEERLEADER 4EVAR!!
So it would be better if they hit .400 against him?
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Another Pineda tidbit from @ESPNStatsInfo: His 173 strikeouts last year were the most by a pitcher 22 or younger since Kerry Wood in 1998
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Unless we are hiring Dusty Baker, Im not worried
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We traded a DH for a Future STUD
actually a current stud….this is way better than trading the top 3 for felix ….Great trade.
Now i know montero is going to be a beast
but we can replace hitting
FakeJeter Fake Derek Jeter
No I’M a stud, Pineda is just a good pitcher…huge difference….wanna smell my fingers? RT @jeremy_tache: @FakeJeter PINEDA IS A STUD!!!
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"Why not? I had a better year than he did." - G.H. Ruth
Here’s a question. Do you still root like crazy for Montero, root a little, don’t care, or root against?
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or do you weep every time he comes to bat?
by long time listener on Jan 13, 2012 9:48 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Don’t like the trade?
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I don't know this gentleman Pineda
I do know Jesus. And I was looking forward to watching him.
by long time listener on Jan 13, 2012 9:51 PM EST up reply actions
I like having the 22 year old pitcher with first starter potential and the young prospect with high ceiling over the two the Yankees gave, if I read correctly about Pineda.
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I hope
I don’t know. I was really looking forward to having someone I could watch succeed. I mean Robertson and Gardner are good, but Montero was something else.
Root against
Hope he fails, Yanks pick him back up off the waiver wire and he has a career resurgence.
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I hope he wins RotY, MVP and a Gold Glove next season
by Jedi Master A-Rod on Jan 13, 2012 9:49 PM EST up reply actions
I especially hope he wins Gold Glove. Do you not like the trade?
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Considering they signed Kuroda right after, not especially.
by Jedi Master A-Rod on Jan 13, 2012 9:52 PM EST up reply actions
Fair enough, but what’s the plan after the one year if they just signed Kuroda?
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Noesi? Banuelos? Betances? Another FA?
by Jedi Master A-Rod on Jan 13, 2012 9:55 PM EST up reply actions
All I’ll say is it’s not often you can get a 22 year old pitcher with an extremely bright future under small contract and a very good prospect for a 4th starter and a great hitter. I don’t mean to underestimate Montero, but the Yankees have depth at catcher position anyway.
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Not talking about Romine.
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The rest of the “depth” is a long ways off, so he’s about the extent of it.
by Jedi Master A-Rod on Jan 13, 2012 10:01 PM EST up reply actions
Fair enough, I always prefer pitchers over hitters personally, so I like it. Who knows what will happen?
Montero is a huge loss, hope it doesn’t sound like I’m not saying that.
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Cervelli is in the mix too
Can you imagine how good of games will be called?
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JR Murphy is about to leapfrog Romine.
Jesus Montero fangirl
by WhatwouldJeterdo on Jan 13, 2012 10:03 PM EST up reply actions
He just made Tampa last year, so he’s always been behind Romine in the ranks. Romine is falling and Murphy is rising.
Jesus Montero fangirl
by WhatwouldJeterdo on Jan 13, 2012 10:05 PM EST up reply actions
But hey, maybe we can look forward to the “he can’t catch” bullshit again in a couple years when Sanchez is almost ready!
by Jedi Master A-Rod on Jan 13, 2012 10:12 PM EST up reply actions
Root a little.
I missed one AB of his while he was up, but I will not go out of my way to watch him this season now. Just like kennedy or ajax or any other former prospect (except mah boy), I wish him success against 28 of the other teams in the league
Lance Pendleton's biggest and only fan. And now he plays for the Astros so... BARN'S CHEERLEADER 4EVAR!!
root for
especially when he plays the skanks.
Last night, a comedian died in New York. Somebody knows why. Somebody knows
This kinda put a downer on this for me
From Yahoo…
Over his final 17 starts, Pineda was 3-8 and his ERA ballooned to 4.74.
Good news, ERA and Wins dont matter!
Should you choose to test my resolve in this matter, you will be facing a finality beyond your comprehension, and you will not be counting days, or months, or years, but milleniums in a place with no doors.
His advanced stat remained pretty much steady
his hr/9 ballooned, but if his FIP and xFIP were any indication, it’s that he faced a stroke of bad luck or the innings tired him.
pineda is too young to look at a bad second half as a huge issue. hes 22. if he pitched at a 3.0 era the whole season at that age we’d be thinking he is THE best young pitcher in baseball behind Stras. The kid struggled a little bit. He’s going to take over and be the ACE of this staff before CC’s time is done with the Yanks.
The Weasel
Well …… Brian “The Weasel” Cashman has done it again. This is what happens when you put a nerd wannabe as your GM who has no real baseball instincts …..
Trades a super talented prospect hitter for a super talented young pitcher to fill a hole
yea no baseball instincts. turrible
Right ...
same guy who, if he’d had his way, would have gotten rid of Cano just as he was emerging as a star …… that guy. Haha ….lololol!
If someone wants to cry about swearing right now, they are free to check out the teletubbies website or something.
Jesus Montero fangirl
by WhatwouldJeterdo on Jan 13, 2012 10:29 PM EST up reply actions
what if someone wants to swear about crying?
by long time listener on Jan 13, 2012 10:32 PM EST up reply actions
I think I already did.
Jesus Montero fangirl
by WhatwouldJeterdo on Jan 13, 2012 10:32 PM EST up reply actions
Well, grow up and get over it.
Jesus Montero fangirl
by WhatwouldJeterdo on Jan 13, 2012 10:39 PM EST up reply actions
I don’t wagon to the next best thing as quickly as you do.
Jesus Montero fangirl
by WhatwouldJeterdo on Jan 13, 2012 10:41 PM EST up reply actions
Then quit crying about people using a word that everyone knows if you’re being all rational. You’re nobody’s parent.
Jesus Montero fangirl
by WhatwouldJeterdo on Jan 13, 2012 10:43 PM EST up reply actions
Not crying.
Just looking out for the credibility of the blog. Travis probably don’t want us dropping f words every other post.
Not trying to act like a parent.
Then he can tell us to fucking stop.
by Jedi Master A-Rod on Jan 13, 2012 10:45 PM EST up reply actions
He has in the past.
He’s not here right now. Not telling you all how to feel about the trade, but it’s not worth making PSA look trashy.
I dont think PSA looks trashy
She has a right to be pissed.
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by YankeesJets on Jan 13, 2012 10:48 PM EST up reply actions
And Frankie already said they know. He and Brandon have been around the whole time, so why are you trying to police what the mods didn’t feel the need to?
Jesus Montero fangirl
by WhatwouldJeterdo on Jan 13, 2012 10:48 PM EST up reply actions
Honestly, you can move along now. Mods have been around this whole time, they don’t need your help.
Jesus Montero fangirl
by WhatwouldJeterdo on Jan 13, 2012 10:52 PM EST up reply actions
Let me worry about the way PSA looks
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No matter how much you’d like for it to be.
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No big deal, there are certain words that I’ll stop people at, but this is just venting
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These are not it.
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You didnt the night you went streaking
Should you choose to test my resolve in this matter, you will be facing a finality beyond your comprehension, and you will not be counting days, or months, or years, but milleniums in a place with no doors.
by YankeesJets on Jan 13, 2012 10:51 PM EST up reply actions
My feelings?
All I have is feelings. I don’t control this team. My feelings make me feel like I am a part of this team.
Maybe we reasonably believe Montero benefits this team right now better than Pineda.
But no, that can’t be.
by Jedi Master A-Rod on Jan 13, 2012 10:44 PM EST up reply actions
Or, you know, who cares what anyone thinks? If someone wants to go wet their pants over Pineda, be my guest. I’m not gonna tell you how to feel, so don’t friggin tell me how to feel.
Jesus Montero fangirl
by WhatwouldJeterdo on Jan 13, 2012 10:47 PM EST up reply actions
It is you who needs to get over it.
Montero trade that is.
by DCyanks21 on Jan 13, 2012 10:40 PM EST up reply actions
Oh.
Jesus Montero fangirl
by WhatwouldJeterdo on Jan 13, 2012 10:49 PM EST up reply actions
Cant we all just get along?
Should you choose to test my resolve in this matter, you will be facing a finality beyond your comprehension, and you will not be counting days, or months, or years, but milleniums in a place with no doors.
by YankeesJets on Jan 13, 2012 10:52 PM EST up reply actions
What do you get out of it though?
Some are upset about a player they followed through his rise to the big club. I love the deal but I dont like seeing my fellow Yanks fans upset. WWJD was a huge fan of Montero, i see no value in messing with her about something like this.
Should you choose to test my resolve in this matter, you will be facing a finality beyond your comprehension, and you will not be counting days, or months, or years, but milleniums in a place with no doors.
by YankeesJets on Jan 13, 2012 10:56 PM EST up reply actions
Not messing with anyone.
Not how I intended it. I just don’t like seeing the cursing. But if it’s okay with the mods I’ll look the other way.
I’m a bad person to not like the swearing? haha.
Sometimes, it's the only way to fully express your feelings.
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Cano was average in the minors
we were gonna trade for Arod who was the best hitter in the league. Idiot.
Jose saw it.
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For the record ....
your boy, Weasel Cashman, also offered Cano in the Randy Johnson trade. And, of course, we have his great negotiating skills in bidding up against himself to land that great ace, AJ Burnett ……
That great ace helped us win a title in 09
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by YankeesJets on Jan 13, 2012 10:06 PM EST up reply actions
Cano in the minors .275/.330/.425
that is screaming future stud obviously. I mean who would trade that magnificent minor league stat line for a future HoFer.
A future ....
(ahem) over the hill HoFer. But go ahead, lololol, genuflect at the altar of your boy Brian since you think he is such a baseball mind ….
Johnson threw 245 innings and a 2.60 ERA
finished 2nd in the Cy young award in the year prior to us trading for him…but okay, keep trying
Key word there is ...
“prior” And how old was he again when we traded for him? It seemed to slip my mind.
Okay Captain Hindisght
If he did it at 40, why couldn’t he do it at 41? He still managed a 3.79 ERA 4.6 fWAR 225 innings and 200+k’s. And in the end we didn’t give up cano but keep on using hindsight to justify your hatred.
Hatred of Cashman?
Nah ….. I think he is just an everyday nerd with an inflated sense of his baseball knowledge that isn’t borne out by his performance. But hatred is way too strong a word.
As to hindsight, though, not sure how else we are to judge a GM’s performance except to look back at how things turned out. Maybe you and your giant intellect could enlighten me as to another method.
Sure
Look at what the team needed at the time and the performances of players at the time. For ex: Cano turning out to be a stud was hardly predicted by any scouts or FO’s. His minor performance was underwhelming and we got lucky he turned out the way he did in the last two years. We needed pitching and Randy Johnson came off a cy young year and showed no signs of slowing. So during the time of the trade, getting Johnson seemed like a fair deal. And in the end we didn’t even give up cano.
It’s like right now, Pineda was one of the best pitchers in the league last year despite being a rookie. While Montero is projected to be a DH/1b which the yanks had no room for. So in the current sense, the deal is fair.
In football for instance, Brady dropped til the 6th round. Are you going to call all the GM’s who passed up on him idiots because they scouted him and he was average at the time but no he is a HoF worthy QB? It was all luck by the pats that he turned out as good as he did. During the time back then, it wasn’t dumb to let him drop because he wasn;t very good back then.
Had you not attacked my initial post
by calling me “an idiot” (really civil of you, pal) perhaps this wouldn’t have turned into such a contentious exchange. I don’t disagree with every point you’re making but didn’t appreciate the broadside. I didn’t attack you initially …. just Cashman. And …. if we can’t speak our minds about the public figures associated with the Yankees while on this board, what’s the point.
Well your inital post didn't come off too well either
But yes, my post was a bit too knee jerk as well. Lets agree to be more civil next time.
OK ---deal
I apologize on my end. But ….. am still not convinced of this trade (haha). I need some time to let it sink in. I’ve been a Montero fan since going down to Trenton and seeing him play in Double A. He was a monster at the plate ….. a bit reminiscent of a young Pujols. So …. I just hope we didn’t let a real gem get away.
Yea i was shocked at this too
But the way i see it, if both players reach their peak we probably will be trading a MVP hitter for a Cy Young pitcher. The fact we’ve waited for montero for so long makes it hurt a little more though.
I could live with that outcome
And agree …. it has been a long wait and we got a glimpse of his abilities and particularly how his power to the opposite field would play well in Yankee Stadium. Let’s hope for a good outcome as you note. Signing off for now.
Your intellect ...
is always so impressive, lololol.
Instead of zzzzzz
We’ll be using …………. from now on.
Sounds like a plan.
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he waited for the best possible time to take one in the tailpipe
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Yep, the debris was I thought it would when I heard it.
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You know what? Based on what Latos and Gio cost, the Yankees freaking stole Pineda.
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So should I be pissed or see what the kid has?
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Give the kid a shot
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by YankeesJets on Jan 13, 2012 10:06 PM EST up reply actions
Carlos Pena makes a lot of sense at DH
Should come cheap, LHB (Jeter, Tex, A-Rod could all be spelled against LHP, w. Nunez playing the IF…hopefully better than he usually does).
Id prefer Damon to Pena
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We will have enough Ks from Tex, no need for Pena to double it
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This works too
But the DH they find should be a LHB.
by PortlandYankee on Jan 13, 2012 9:59 PM EST up reply actions
Correct
Pena. Damon. Whoever they get, they should be LH.
by PortlandYankee on Jan 13, 2012 10:01 PM EST up reply actions
I'd take Pena
5 years younger, more power, projects better for this season. K rate is higher, position less valuable, but for similar OBP (career pena is 1/1000 worse), I will take power at DH
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Damon has a bit more speed and strikes out less, no?
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by YankeesJets on Jan 13, 2012 10:04 PM EST up reply actions
Oh he does, yes.
I noted that Pena has a higher K rate (15%) higher. Damon or Pena would be decent 1 year signings for the right price. Pick your poison basically.
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Depends on how cheap they want to go
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by YankeesJets on Jan 13, 2012 10:08 PM EST up reply actions
Cheap?
Chato would work there. Wouldn’t mind testing those waters for a month.
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Probably not, but it would be cheap.
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Not true, Montero is only gone because he had value
Chato probably wont get much of a shot. I could see Nunez getting more at bats which isnt a bad thing.
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by YankeesJets on Jan 13, 2012 10:20 PM EST up reply actions
Jeter, Tex, and A-Rod mash lefties.
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by Frank Campagnola on Jan 13, 2012 11:13 PM EST up reply actions
Still feel sick.
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by WhatwouldJeterdo on Jan 13, 2012 10:00 PM EST reply actions
Which resulted from the trade.
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Another guy that would never fail
I miss those arguments
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by YankeesJets on Jan 13, 2012 10:05 PM EST up reply actions
A top 3 rotation of
CC, Pineda and Nova could be a nightmare for baseball if those guys pitch like the are capable of. Especially in a 5 game ALDS series….
I wouldnt be shocked if Kuroda was the #3
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by YankeesJets on Jan 13, 2012 10:07 PM EST up reply actions
Ya Kuroda most likely will.
I wouldnt mind however if Nova stole that from him. If Nova continues to develop our SP is in great shape and already kind of is….that happened quick
IS everyone here serious???
Cashman just robbed RoBBBED seattle, montero was an avg talent at best and cant even play a position. PINEDA IS A STUD HE WAS ONe OF THE BEST PITCHERS IN HIS ROOKIE YEAR HES A STUD. havign to face CC then pineda in the playoffs – thats possibly the best 1-2 in the AL. The yankees got a young up and coming pitcher whose a stud i cant even beleive people are saying this is a bad deal wow
He CANt play catcher
Pineda has wayyyyy more upside than any other pitcher traded this offseason. He has legit velocity in his fastball, and his numbers at the end of the season probably went down because the mariners; a) didnt pitch him regularly and took him out early b) he got burned out in his first season. the first half of the year he was top 3 pitcher in the AL
I like the deal
but I just don’t agree with you that Montero is an average talent. He’s been a top 10 prospect for years now.
He is a good prospect and will hit
But with tex and arod in long term contracts, and montero not capable of being an everyday C, does he really have any value other than a trade chip? No matter if he hits 30/100/.300 for his career not being able to play a position makes you an average talent. Its a huge drawback especially for the yanks who have vetern playeres and need to keep the dh flexible for the next 5-7 years
Any non Yanks fan tonight Ive spoken to thinks we made the steal of the offseason
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by YankeesJets on Jan 13, 2012 10:10 PM EST up reply actions
which is why non-Yankees fans are fucking stupid
I guess. I’m too emotional to analyze. Someone hold me?
by long time listener on Jan 13, 2012 10:13 PM EST up reply actions
I’m really sad, but part of me knew it would always end this way.
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by WhatwouldJeterdo on Jan 13, 2012 10:15 PM EST up reply actions
I know. I completely agree
I think nothing happening was making me feel weird wihtout ever realizing what was coming. I thought Montero was gone for Greinke. I’m just sad I don’t get to watch ‘our guy’ now
that has to be
Nothing else will allow me to be.
by long time listener on Jan 13, 2012 10:21 PM EST up reply actions
well not necessarily
mental disorders are a serious thing, and if Greinke really couldn’t pitch in NY, Pineda would be better today
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I think he could do well here
but if his disorder became and issue, he had AJ-level breakdowns, Pineda would be better
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pineda has kershaw/lincecum upside
with very similar first year stats
Right, but I’m not saying he’s better than McCann, Mauer or Posey.
by Jedi Master A-Rod on Jan 13, 2012 10:33 PM EST up reply actions
what other pitchers have put up those numbers in there rookie years
VERY few, as a worst case scenerio hes a top #2 in the league at his peak, best case he can win a cy young or two
in terms of value
pineda has more value than greinke. Now maybe next year greinke wiill put up slightly better numbers (maybe not if u adjust AL vs NL differences) but after that? Pineda all the way
Maybe
Greinke was one of the guys i advocated trading montero for. I think he’s a top 6-10 pitcher, but Pineda certainly has that upside
What makes Pineda more valuable or at least equal in value would be his age and contract
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by YankeesJets on Jan 13, 2012 10:44 PM EST up reply actions
I hope they will treat him better than our team had the decency to. He’s a good kid.
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by WhatwouldJeterdo on Jan 13, 2012 10:22 PM EST up reply actions
It's a business.
We got an extreme talent. They got an extreme talent. We just filled a hole with ours…
Silly you. Prospects aren’t people in this organization.
by Jedi Master A-Rod on Jan 13, 2012 10:24 PM EST up reply actions
Treat him better?
Our team is the team that gave him a chance and developed him. Without us, he’s nothing.
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by YankeesJets on Jan 13, 2012 10:25 PM EST up reply actions
We shall see, i cant wait until Garder and Grandy are stealing at will on the kid
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by YankeesJets on Jan 13, 2012 10:26 PM EST up reply actions
Steve Balboni can probably steal on this kid
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by YankeesJets on Jan 13, 2012 10:30 PM EST up reply actions
It doesnt matter anymore
He is no longer a Yank, and we slayed that deal. I hope the kid does alright except for against the Yanks.
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by YankeesJets on Jan 13, 2012 10:33 PM EST up reply actions
The minute thay tried to move him for Lee, it was inevitable
At least this was a better deal. Plus if he meets his potential, Yanks could always bring him back.
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by YankeesJets on Jan 13, 2012 10:18 PM EST up reply actions
At least it wasn;t for Cliff Lee
and then Lee didn’t leave us in the off season. Pineda is here to stay
Some of those non Yanks fans will be rooting on their new catcher
Cant be that bad.
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by YankeesJets on Jan 13, 2012 10:15 PM EST up reply actions
totally agree
Montero isn’t average but i agree. guys like Pineda are so tough to find. and jose campos is a legit prospect too
Average talent my ass.
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by WhatwouldJeterdo on Jan 13, 2012 10:12 PM EST up reply actions
A lot of this was knee jerk reaction and Montero love
but he’s not average talent. Probably not as high as as people put him if he doesn’t stick at catcher though.
Montero was not average talent, don’t kid yourself.
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let's not get insane
Maybe we got some good value, but Montero is going to hit the shit out of the ball.
by long time listener on Jan 13, 2012 10:25 PM EST up reply actions
Damn it.
If I didn’t have to pick my brother up later, I’d already be passed out drunk.
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Oh man, if you do the numbers
There’s no problem slotting Cole Hamels into this rotation and being under $189 for 2014.
2014 Rotation could be:
CC
Hamels
Pineda
Banuelos
Nova
by PortlandYankee on Jan 13, 2012 10:17 PM EST reply actions
Hamels will test the market
Doesn’t mean we’ll get him, but he seems like the type to go FA.
by PortlandYankee on Jan 13, 2012 10:23 PM EST up reply actions
We can make a try at him, but if we miss him
i’ll be less concerned now. Pineda makes out rotation’s future look much more promising.
Who cares about DH spot
When you have a legit #2 in the rotation
Well...
If you figure that Pineda threw 171 innings last year, that is 513 outs. The DH, at say 140 games with 4 AB per game, gets 560 potential outs.
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I seriously doubt he was getting 140 games at DH
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by YankeesJets on Jan 13, 2012 10:24 PM EST up reply actions
dude, really?
so if he throws a few more games hes more valuable? kind of ridiculous argument to just add up outs to determine value. DH is easier to find than top tier SP, that kind of crushes this concept.
Look at what I answered.
I said that a starting DH gets more outs to deal with, not that Montero would get these AB. None N asked who cares about DH spot. I did not say Montero at all in my response.
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seriously your worrying abou DH?
when theres players like jeter, arod, tex and swisher who NEED To rotate that spot to keep them fresh
I said I care about a DH, not I am worried. Thank you for reading.
We can have a short term solution like Pena or Damon, a cheap solution like Chato, or we could have a rotation with Nooners getting some AB. I care, I am not worried.
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what about the catcher spot
where Russel Martin defiles the position with suck.
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by long time listener on Jan 13, 2012 10:20 PM EST reply actions
you said you would stroke me about 15 minutes ago
what happened?
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if you take the secondary definition of insult
2. A thing so worthless or contemptible as to be offensive
it does
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I WAS HOPING YOU'D SAY
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by long time listener on Jan 13, 2012 10:33 PM EST up reply actions
LOUD NOISES?
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Cant believe how many Yankees fans are up in arms about another teams catcher
He’s gone, move on. Its Pineda Time!
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WWJD, there is hope you know.
Unless I am mistaken, no players have passed physicals yet, so if you were to say… kneecap Pineda…
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WWJD, the Tonya Harding of PSA?
I dont see it.
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by YankeesJets on Jan 13, 2012 10:32 PM EST up reply actions
Alcohol and grief are a powerful motivation
And the name is really close
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Not here, dude.
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by WhatwouldJeterdo on Jan 13, 2012 10:36 PM EST up reply actions
oh, but your last name was like harding
oh well
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Where did I say that?
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by WhatwouldJeterdo on Jan 13, 2012 10:32 PM EST up reply actions
I think she was saying nope to moving on, not to Pineda
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by YankeesJets on Jan 13, 2012 10:34 PM EST up reply actions
here's a picture of a monkey hugging a cat
by long time listener on Jan 13, 2012 10:31 PM EST reply actions
what sources?
Is it the same monkey?
by long time listener on Jan 13, 2012 10:40 PM EST up reply actions
Noesi for Campos
I was looking forward to seeing Noesi. I think he’s going to be a gem.
Who’s Campos? Anyone have insight on Campos?
Solid prospect
http://www.fangraphs.com/statss.aspx?playerid=sa504797&position=P
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Jose Campos has a big arm. 6’4", 195. 19 yrs old. 85 K and 13 BB in 81 inn at low-A last year.
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by YankeesJets on Jan 13, 2012 10:38 PM EST up reply actions
here's the only thing that will let me sleep tonight
@YankeesWFA: Of last six No. 1 NYY Prospects (acc to @BaseballAmerica), three were traded: D Navarro, A Jackson, J Montero. 1st two didn’t hurt them.
by long time listener on Jan 13, 2012 10:38 PM EST reply actions
I appreciate that
I work 3 straigth 16-hour shifts this weekend, so I can’t properly mourn the loss of Montero until Monday.
Damn police stuff :(
we're neutral about you
At best.
by long time listener on Jan 13, 2012 10:41 PM EST up reply actions
You were a part of my favorite day on PSA
so I guess I love you too
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July 6. Feelings days.
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you had 60 comments
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I have a copy of that day saved in case the internet ever dies
It was a superb revelation into the hearts of the PSA’ers. You were a part of it. Lots of Gosling love and discussion of men with WWJD.
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I said it was my favorite day on PSA
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Mine was the night the Yanks won it all in 09
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by YankeesJets on Jan 13, 2012 10:50 PM EST up reply actions
I didn't comment often back then, lots of lurking. That was a fun day too
Six threads, right?
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lucky for you
my car is in the shop…
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Utah until the 20th
then back to vegas for a bit. And how could I kill any participant of Feelings Day? I need you all around so I can make you recreate it once I have… oh right, I shouldn’t type that part…
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Cmon folks I don’t want to mod be nice to each other everyone love everyone
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Well, only one side has decided to tell the other side how to feel. And it’s not the side that I am on.
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by WhatwouldJeterdo on Jan 13, 2012 10:44 PM EST up reply actions
What is this the end of a Jerry Springer episode?
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by YankeesJets on Jan 13, 2012 10:45 PM EST up reply actions
I saw Jesus's first major league hit in person
True story.
by long time listener on Jan 13, 2012 10:45 PM EST reply actions
I saw his first HR of this season in person (MiLB)
by Jedi Master A-Rod on Jan 13, 2012 10:47 PM EST up reply actions
15 yard slant with 65 YAC
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poem
Jesus
What might have been
Is better than nothing.
(Pineda is a pin-head-a
I don’t mean that.
I’m just angry.)
Promise
Is a dirty word
In the Yankee organization.
(Campos can go camping
As far as I’m concerned.
Still angry.)
Everything
Is going to be fine
Say people smarter than me.
by long time listener on Jan 13, 2012 10:50 PM EST reply actions
golf clap
it made me smile
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YOU'RE SURPRISINGLY COHERENT
THAT’S WHY I DRINK! IN CASE I’M A GREAT POET!
by long time listener on Jan 13, 2012 10:53 PM EST up reply actions
NOW THAT I HAVE DISCOVERED YOUR SUPERPOWERS,
I CAN WORK AT DESTROYING IT!
sixseasonsandamovie
♬P-p-pocket full of Hawthrones.♪
Yeah, it.!
it it it it it it it it it !!!
You have a problem with that?
sixseasonsandamovie
♬P-p-pocket full of Hawthrones.♪
http://www.pinstripealley.com/2011/10/10/2481310/dear-yankees-please-dont-trade-jesus
Thanks for nothing, assholes.
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by WhatwouldJeterdo on Jan 13, 2012 11:00 PM EST reply actions
delete that
Then it’s like it never happened.
by long time listener on Jan 13, 2012 11:01 PM EST up reply actions
Go kneecap Pineda while you still can!
and remember
I love the Yankees. I won’t stop loving them if you make a decision I don’t support
Lance Pendleton's biggest and only fan. And now he plays for the Astros so... BARN'S CHEERLEADER 4EVAR!!
I'm just going to watch "The Big Bang Theory" on Fox
I can use some dullard humor.
by long time listener on Jan 13, 2012 11:01 PM EST reply actions
He better outpitch Kuroda by a considerable margin.
by Jedi Master A-Rod on Jan 13, 2012 11:04 PM EST up reply actions
Mike Axisa @mikeaxisa
I’m really going to miss Montero :(
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by WhatwouldJeterdo on Jan 13, 2012 11:05 PM EST reply actions
That’s the part that sucks especially bad. Not only is he not ours, he’s someone else’s.
Jesus Montero fangirl
by WhatwouldJeterdo on Jan 13, 2012 11:09 PM EST up reply actions
I’m gonna miss his pimp trot so much.
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by WhatwouldJeterdo on Jan 13, 2012 11:12 PM EST up reply actions
My sadness is taken down a notch knowing that he’s going to make Angels fans miserable for years to come.
by Jedi Master A-Rod on Jan 13, 2012 11:12 PM EST up reply actions
I would love for him to keep doing that.
Help the M’s knock off the Angels and Rangers? Nothing bad about that…
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You know what’s weird? Feels like Montero already played like 10 seasons on the Yankees. It’s like losing the idea of what the future is so suddenly
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Rumor has it that Seattle is going to flip Jesus for Lavarnway
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by YankeesJets on Jan 13, 2012 11:09 PM EST up reply actions
LOL, I know
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by YankeesJets on Jan 13, 2012 11:11 PM EST up reply actions
I might never stop vomiting if he dons that jersey in the near future
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Query
Would you agree that Montero’s ceiling as a star was higher than Pineda, but his floor is also much lower?
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that is my whole point
its like we just dumped a whole generation of baseball in one night. That’s what is upseting
He gets 3 starts. If he’s not next to perfect, fuck him.
That’s all Jesus got
by Jedi Master A-Rod on Jan 13, 2012 11:11 PM EST up reply actions
For the Yankees this wasn’t about ridding themselves of Montero, it was about getting a starter of the present and future. Montero had to be dealt to do it
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Who did we need then?
Because personally we needed another top half of the rotation starter. And we got one who’s young, full of potential, and should be around a while.
Really?
You need to get the value that Colon and Garcia provided to this team. You weren’t getting that again from Garcia, Hughes, and Burnett most likely.
Be real.
then add
Waren, Phelps, Noesi to that and we would have been ok with someone…and then there were the 1 year guys
Your head is in the clouds with beliefs like that
The Yanks werent going anywhere with the rotation they had. Yanks dont hang banners for winning the division, we are in the championships business.
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by YankeesJets on Jan 13, 2012 11:25 PM EST up reply actions
Not realistic?
What the hell are we playing for? Player stats?
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by YankeesJets on Jan 13, 2012 11:37 PM EST up reply actions
I just don't agree with the
“we play for championships, we’re the Yankees, we don’t settle for the division” ideals. We’re a team just like everyone else who tries to make it to the playoffs. Everyone wants to win it all every year, we’re nothing different.
Do you know what this team is about?
Winning. Period. Our whole history is based off winning. Don’t let the Pirates fool you. They pocket cash.
so why did we hold onto Donnie freaking baseball?
This was my chance at Donnie. I wasn’t around for the Jeter hype.
I watched Jeter in the minors when I didn’t even have most of my teeth. That made me start following the Yankees. I really thought this might be round 2 of that for me, but you know.
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by WhatwouldJeterdo on Jan 13, 2012 11:51 PM EST up reply actions
Donnie was the best player in baseball, why would they trade him?
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by YankeesJets on Jan 13, 2012 11:53 PM EST up reply actions
The Yankees sucked in the 80s
why not trade Don Mattingly for prospects? oh wait. because he was awesome.
Yanks won the most games in the 80s
Youve got lots to learn kid
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by YankeesJets on Jan 13, 2012 11:58 PM EST up reply actions
The Yankees were very lucky to go as far as they did last year
If someone told you before the 11 season that our season would be in the hands of Garcia and Colon, you would be thinking third place finish. Yanks got lucky that Sox fell apart and didnt have good SP depth.
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by YankeesJets on Jan 13, 2012 11:49 PM EST up reply actions
Yanks did really good considering what other teams paid for pitchers this offseason
I love this deal so much.
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by YankeesJets on Jan 13, 2012 11:15 PM EST up reply actions
I didn’t say it was. I’m simply saying three starts was enough of a sample size to prove Jesus can’t catch, so that’s all Pineda gets to prove he’s an ace.
by Jedi Master A-Rod on Jan 13, 2012 11:17 PM EST up reply actions
All the time in the minors doesnt count?
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by YankeesJets on Jan 13, 2012 11:17 PM EST up reply actions
All that time he showed improvement and no one gave a single fuck because their mind was already made up?
by Jedi Master A-Rod on Jan 13, 2012 11:19 PM EST up reply actions
They actually had a plan for montero. But when Pineda was up for grabs they weigh the idea of having a young talented pitcher who can pitch now or take the time and Posada in montero which takes a few season (which may or may not succeed) and took the first option. It’s not as straight forward as you make it seem.
Yanks had more need in SP than they did in C or DH
Look at the prices for good SP, this was a very smart move.
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by YankeesJets on Jan 13, 2012 11:24 PM EST up reply actions
And they could have easily filled it from within and with a FA.
by Jedi Master A-Rod on Jan 13, 2012 11:27 PM EST up reply actions
None of our pitching prospects are as good as Pineda and none of the FA are as cheap, young and under control as long as Pineda will be.
Did they really need someone with his upside? They won almost 100 games with Freddy, Colon and the AJ-Hughes monster spewing shit all over the place.
I would have been more than comfortable with CC-Nova-Kuroda-Garcia/AJ/Hughes/Phelps/Warren/Noesi.
by Jedi Master A-Rod on Jan 13, 2012 11:31 PM EST up reply actions
This is about the future too though
They probably felt that Pineda and CC leading the rotation will have us a stable rotation for the future for years to come as the B’s get put in. This isn’t some short sighted WIN NOW move.
and Pineda could end up be a big huge dump
then they have all those old players with no youth to complement them.
But to be fair, we would have lost nothing if Montero didn’t pan out.
Jesus Montero fangirl
by WhatwouldJeterdo on Jan 13, 2012 11:53 PM EST up reply actions
If montero doesn't pan out
we have a bunch of old guys
If Pineda doesn’t pan out, we have a bunch of old guys. The result will be the same. This was a prospect swap we wanted a top pitching prospect and they wanted a hitting prospect.
They feel they aren't ready
Pineda helps now and in years into the future…His role in the organization will be similar to that of Montero’s which is a cornerstone who will help now and that we can build on.
It's essentially a 1 to 1 deal...
We swapped A for B. What makes Montero more likely to succeed than Pineda who already has a year under his belt.
Theres no such thing as a pitching prospect? the fact that we already had Montero, so why trade him?
You are right, Pineda isnt a spect he is already an all star
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by YankeesJets on Jan 13, 2012 11:58 PM EST up reply actions
Not for this year
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by YankeesJets on Jan 13, 2012 11:59 PM EST up reply actions
We also have Gary Sanchez who is projected to be montero like no? It’s not like the yankees are short on catchers or there aren’t good hitters hitting the market.
Projected to be a more complete player than Montero
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by YankeesJets on Jan 14, 2012 12:05 AM EST up reply actions
And he just put up a worse defensive season than Jesus ever had.
by Jedi Master A-Rod on Jan 14, 2012 12:05 AM EST up reply actions
Scouts obviously see something that others arent
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by YankeesJets on Jan 14, 2012 12:12 AM EST up reply actions
Not with anyone with the same upside of Pineda
Plus they could find a cheaper bat to replace what Montero might bring them.
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by YankeesJets on Jan 13, 2012 11:28 PM EST up reply actions
I mean that’s not really fair. This isn’t about Montero. They didn’t make the move to get rid of Montero because he can’t catch. They wanted a starter, the team requested Montero and they did it.
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I had ridiculously high expectations for Jesus this season, so fair or not, now Pineda gets saddled with those expectations.
by Jedi Master A-Rod on Jan 13, 2012 11:23 PM EST up reply actions
That sentence had nothing to do with not needing to trade Montero though.
However does it prove your point?
Except they thought it was deal they counldn't pass up
They originally wanted Felix, the Mariners countered with Pineda. It;s not as if they are short selling Montero.
He wasn't an every day player though.
Martin
And DH was going to be a bunch of different guys mixed in.
Speaking of Martin
I think it became clear a couple months ago when there were rumblings of giving Martin a multi-year deal. It really seems like the Yankees were never very genuine in their claimed desire to make Montero an everyday catcher.
That's not how it was, but okay.
It’s not like the Yankees said Montero sucks lets trade him. They needed pitching. They got a talented player who won’t sit on the bench for 25% of the year due to a crowded C/DH role.
I’d argue we gained that in Pineda, too.
Imagine this:
CC-Pineda-Nova-Banuelos-Hughes
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Like they are gonna keep ManBan…
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by WhatwouldJeterdo on Jan 13, 2012 11:10 PM EST up reply actions
He’s been my 2nd favorite. Might as well kick me when I’m down.
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by WhatwouldJeterdo on Jan 13, 2012 11:12 PM EST up reply actions
They Kept Joba and Hughes
remember when we all loved Joba? He was the next Mo? Awesome 1-2 punch in late innings. And then he was to be a starter and we got worked up about that?
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I’d argue that because of Joba and Hughes, they are less likely to keep him.
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by WhatwouldJeterdo on Jan 13, 2012 11:12 PM EST up reply actions
I think they are. I never really thnought they would with Montero, but I really do think they will with Manny B
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They’ll ruin him or trade him. I have little hope for any other outcome.
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by WhatwouldJeterdo on Jan 13, 2012 11:13 PM EST up reply actions
I really believe in them with him this time
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Why? I was worried before Montero
now i have no faith whatsoever. Lets just go back to trading everyone. No attachments. Safe.
They didn’t do the stupid move and put him in bullpen at end of season, they haven’t rushed him along
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He’s basically the de facto #1 prospect now. Succeed immediately, or get traded for the first shiny thing that comes along.
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by WhatwouldJeterdo on Jan 13, 2012 11:17 PM EST up reply actions
Anything. They were ready to ship off Montero for a few months of Cliff Lee. If you don’t think they’d do that with ManBan, you’re kidding yourself.
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by WhatwouldJeterdo on Jan 13, 2012 11:19 PM EST up reply actions
They are in the business of winning titles not admiring prospects
What are we the Pittsburgh Pirates? Besides this wasnt like the old days when a spect was moved for an aging vet. Yanks got a young ace pitcher in return.
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by YankeesJets on Jan 13, 2012 11:22 PM EST up reply actions
I don't like the yankees because the win cahmpionships
I like the Yankees because I want to see the next Gehrig
There will never be another Gehrig
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by YankeesJets on Jan 13, 2012 11:29 PM EST up reply actions
you know what i mean
’i want to see our players succeed, not see us trade them for a guy that will get us as far.
Who cares where the player comes from?
Teams trade spects all the time to win. We still have guys like Cano and Gardner that are homegrown. Im sure the Sox didnt want to move a chip like Hanley but they won a WS because of it.
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by YankeesJets on Jan 13, 2012 11:36 PM EST up reply actions
i agree with this
it’s not like we bought pineda…we traded homegrown talent for him
Boone Logan is a good boy. So is David Robertson. Team A.J.
I know
but I didn’t see Cano come up and I was barely paying attention when Gardner came up. This was my shot to see someone rise from the beginning
There will be others
Unlike the others, i dont see Man Ban being moved.
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by YankeesJets on Jan 13, 2012 11:46 PM EST up reply actions
Its not like we traded him for Johan Santana
Yanks just grabbed a guy that could be in the rotation for the next 10 years
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by YankeesJets on Jan 13, 2012 11:10 PM EST up reply actions
or, he could be Johan Santana
I’m sure the Mets thought they were getting an ace.
by long time listener on Jan 13, 2012 11:12 PM EST up reply actions
The Mets didnt really give up much when you look back
Yanks wouldve had to give up more. Age is a big difference too.
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by YankeesJets on Jan 13, 2012 11:13 PM EST up reply actions
the only thing I know right now
Is that the Yankees had zero faith in Montero sticking at catcher.
by long time listener on Jan 13, 2012 11:13 PM EST reply actions
Who knows what else they saw that we dont know about?
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by YankeesJets on Jan 13, 2012 11:14 PM EST up reply actions
The same team that thought Smoak was the better option for Lee?
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by YankeesJets on Jan 13, 2012 11:20 PM EST up reply actions
This was a dumb trade for Seattle in my opinion
They wouldve been smarter moving King Felix for the B’s and Montero.
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by YankeesJets on Jan 13, 2012 11:23 PM EST up reply actions
Never made any sense to me
Smoak wasn’t even close to Montero in terms of projected offensive capability (at least as far as I can remember…I’ve done a lot of drinking since then).
First time Montero is in NY is May 11-13
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by WhatwouldJeterdo on Jan 13, 2012 11:15 PM EST up reply actions
Are you serious?
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Is that actually your birthday?
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May 9th. Close enough.
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by WhatwouldJeterdo on Jan 13, 2012 11:17 PM EST up reply actions
dont do it WWJD
he was pretending to be threatened by my love of Feelings day to throw you off. Run for the hills!
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one constituency has weighed in
When Over the Monster heard we had traded for Pineda, they said (in sum and substance) “Let’s sign Kuroda.” When we signed Kuroda, they said (direct quote) “We’re in serious trouble.”
Whatever that means. If they were smart, they wouldn’t be Red Sox fans.
by long time listener on Jan 13, 2012 11:18 PM EST reply actions
I think we as fans are fickle
If he throw well in his first few starts, we will laud him. If he struggles, we will bemoan the loss of montero.
Lance Pendleton's biggest and only fan. And now he plays for the Astros so... BARN'S CHEERLEADER 4EVAR!!
Of course. Talking to Lookout Landing, they called him a “teddy bear” and said don’t hurt him. Hope he’s not upset by spotlight.
Was a Yankees fan growing up, though
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Who did he root for?
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Sux.
Wiki says he had a Nomar poster.
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Ugh, he needs to go
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by YankeesJets on Jan 13, 2012 11:31 PM EST up reply actions
NO
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Youve got that same Nomar poster, dontcha?
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by YankeesJets on Jan 13, 2012 11:33 PM EST up reply actions
Don’t even joke about that
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Alright we can keep him
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by YankeesJets on Jan 13, 2012 11:34 PM EST up reply actions
I could alter wiki
and make it say he worshipped at the alter of the Overrated namath? (low blow)
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Hey now
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by YankeesJets on Jan 13, 2012 11:33 PM EST up reply actions
No, Namath was good.
I think though he is a HoF’er due to his importance to the game, rather than his numbers (which are not good)
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I agree, i just wish Namath along with every other Jet would shut the hell up already
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by YankeesJets on Jan 13, 2012 11:39 PM EST up reply actions
Really?
I would like to say that if the Red Sox offered me a deal or drafted me, I would still root for the Yanks, but I think my allegiance would change quickly.
Lance Pendleton's biggest and only fan. And now he plays for the Astros so... BARN'S CHEERLEADER 4EVAR!!
I’ve always thought that if I have the crazy talent of someone like Strasburg and the Sox somehow had top pick I’d be able to say I wouldn’t play for you if you draft me
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That is a special case though
you would be a “sure thing” my talents as a pitcher are Division 2 at best, so I was going with if I actually dedicated myself to playing and they were the ones to give me a chance in the late round
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another thing
This puts that whole “Hal met with Boras re: Jackson without Cashman!” thing into perspective.
by long time listener on Jan 13, 2012 11:30 PM EST reply actions
That was a nice smokescreen
EJax just got used.
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by YankeesJets on Jan 13, 2012 11:31 PM EST up reply actions
Exactly
everyone was looking one way while the Yanks were doing something else. Pineda went a helluva lot cheaper than Gio and Latos did.
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by YankeesJets on Jan 13, 2012 11:38 PM EST up reply actions
It probably pushed the Ms to make the deal
They probably figured if Yanks signed EJax, Montero for Pineda was dead.
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by YankeesJets on Jan 13, 2012 11:50 PM EST up reply actions
while Hal was meating with Boras
Hank was meeting with Seattle.
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I think people are taking this the wrong way. Missing Jesus/being sad over Jesus/wishing we kept Jesus doesn’t mean that we want Pineda to fail/want Pineda to get blown up/want Pineda to lose to prove a point. A lot of us spent a whole lot of time watching Jesus grow up and become someone we thought would be the next great Yankee. That was ripped out from under us instantly. It has nothing to do with Pineda, but it’s not something that people with an emotional investment in someone they spent years watching can just turn off instantly.
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by WhatwouldJeterdo on Jan 13, 2012 11:31 PM EST reply actions
Well said
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by YankeesJets on Jan 13, 2012 11:32 PM EST up reply actions
Answer me this question:
Do you think the trade was about “finding the right trade” to get rid of Montero because he wasn’t a fit
or
“finding the right trade” to get a SP and Montero had to be a part of it
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A little of both.
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by WhatwouldJeterdo on Jan 13, 2012 11:34 PM EST up reply actions
So you really think the Yankees were trying to trade Montero? Like actively seeking deals, or just hoping they’d find a good pitcher for him?
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I think they were waiting for a deal for a pitcher they could feel good about for a player they had questions about. I’m not saying I agree with it, but I think that’s likely how it went down. I think they would gladly keep him if nothing came along, but wouldn’t shy away from the right deal.
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by WhatwouldJeterdo on Jan 13, 2012 11:40 PM EST up reply actions
Alright, that’s fair. As long as you don’t think they were actively trying to get rid of him
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I don’t think they were calling up every team asking them what they could get for Montero, no.
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by WhatwouldJeterdo on Jan 13, 2012 11:43 PM EST up reply actions
Yeah.
Here’s how I’d word it.
The Yankees were looking for starting pitching, and if Jesus Montero’s name came up they would not immediately shut the team down. They were looking for the best deal possible regardless of who had to go.
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I think it was “the best deal possible involving Montero”. They don’t seem to be listening to people on ManBan or Dellin the way they’ve seemingly always listened on Montero.
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by WhatwouldJeterdo on Jan 13, 2012 11:46 PM EST up reply actions
Well that’s because Montero is their top prospect. I don’t think the Mariners do this deal if it’s Banuelos instead of Montero
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I don’t think it had as much to do with his ranking as it did the questions they had about where he’d play.
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by WhatwouldJeterdo on Jan 13, 2012 11:50 PM EST up reply actions
The Yankees questions about where he’d play?
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I’ll say this, I don’t think the Yankees were 100% confident in his fieldng, but I don’t think they wanted to trade him unless they got a great pitcher. They think Pineda is great.
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I said they wouldn’t have traded him for someone they could feel really good about, but I think their questions of his fielding was the difference between no trade, no how and we’ll listen to what you have.
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by WhatwouldJeterdo on Jan 13, 2012 11:54 PM EST up reply actions
Except for someone they could feel really good about*
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by WhatwouldJeterdo on Jan 13, 2012 11:56 PM EST up reply actions
I see and I agree. There are fully untouchable players out there and Montero wasn’t one of them. Fielding probably had something to do with it
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I think they were looking to find the best pitcher possible
first he would only go for Lee then Greinke, not Pineda.
I don’t think so. They needed an impact hitter.
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by WhatwouldJeterdo on Jan 13, 2012 11:51 PM EST up reply actions
probably the second thing
If I had to guess, I’d think the Yankees wanted a proven, established, No. 1 starter for Jesus — Felix, Lincecum, etc. But Pineda is a young all star, and it’s hard to see the Yankees getting much more than that for a guy with no known position.
by long time listener on Jan 13, 2012 11:36 PM EST up reply actions
Latter.
Will you answer mine?
Is Pineda’s overall ceiling lower than Montero’s, but his floor also higher?
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I keep trying to wrap my head around that question.
So you mean like Montero can be worse than Pineda’s worse, and better than Pineda’s better?
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Yeah.
Like I think that Montero could become a legend or a scrub off the bench. 100-10 scale, but Pineda is more 90-30. He could be an Ace, but maybe not a legend, but at worst he is a 5.
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I think Montero’s floor is higher just because of the positions they play
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So in this you are assuming he can stay at catcher?
Because I think he has the potential to flame out there, and be relegated to his bat alone
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Probably why NL teams weren't being talked about when his name was mentioned for trades.
Like the Dodgers. That or the court case too. Probably both in some way.
Which I think has to be factored in, especially with the uptick in interleague.
Those are potential lost starts… maybe I am reaching, but it makes me feel better
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Maybe he can be, but I haven’t spent years watching highlights of him, so my emotional investment in him is nil. I can’t turn off the emotional investment I have in Montero RIGHT NOW just because he was traded.
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by WhatwouldJeterdo on Jan 13, 2012 11:36 PM EST up reply actions
I didn’t follow AJax half as closely as I’ve followed Montero. I was over that nearly instantly.
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by WhatwouldJeterdo on Jan 13, 2012 11:38 PM EST up reply actions
Plus, I had major love for Grandy already.
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by WhatwouldJeterdo on Jan 13, 2012 11:41 PM EST up reply actions
Excellent point
I’ve been talking about Montero for the last few years to anyone who would listen. It’s tough to have that ripped away now.
I almost feel as lousy about this trade
as I did when the Canadiens traded Patrick Roy. I was 8 or 9 and that actually had me in tears.
I can agree with this.
It’s just the direction of you get 3 chances and that’s it approach I find unreasonable.
So true ESPN BBall announcer.
Kobe’s knees look great. So us Yankee fans should be excited about Alex.
Kobe is so good
and he’s on my fantasy team which is completely dominating right now.
Boone Logan is a good boy. So is David Robertson. Team A.J.
With Kobe, it is a health issue.
Ardo has his health and he also has his head. How often do stories attribute his struggles to off the field issues? (assuming accuracy)
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I've watched to "Someone Like You" on Youtube like 80 times in a row
It didn’t make me feel better. It made me feel worse.
by long time listener on Jan 13, 2012 11:47 PM EST reply actions
If that's your go-to-feel-better video,
no wonder it made you feel worse.
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I don't even know if I want to feel better
I just want permission to feel the way I’m feeling.
by long time listener on Jan 13, 2012 11:50 PM EST up reply actions
where was that video shot?
Sometimes it looks like London, and sometimes it looks like Central Park.
by long time listener on Jan 13, 2012 11:49 PM EST up reply actions
Wikipeida says it's Paris
God, I’d love to see Paris someday.
by long time listener on Jan 14, 2012 12:06 AM EST up reply actions
The more and more I read, the more I like Campos
A plus bat and a 4/5/Longman for a 2, with 1 potential is fair. Campos is rated at 1st round status, throws strikes… he could make this deal
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In typical girl fashion, I’m going to eat away my feelings. No chocolate/candy/cookies/cake in this apartment are safe.
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by WhatwouldJeterdo on Jan 14, 2012 12:02 AM EST reply actions
I’ll be honest, this feels awful. I really hate to see him go. I was looking forward to him being the type of player that in 20 years I say “I watched his career,” but baseball is a business, and as much as it pains me to say this it’s a smart baseball trade.
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I’m not saying it isn’t.
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by WhatwouldJeterdo on Jan 14, 2012 12:06 AM EST up reply actions
and I’m not accusing you of such. It sucks, but it’s baseball
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I’ve never followed a prospect like I’ve followed Jesus. It’s just going to sting for a while.
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by WhatwouldJeterdo on Jan 14, 2012 12:09 AM EST up reply actions
I just found a quote that is going to make you want to murder someone
Do you want to see the quote or not?
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I doubt it can make it much worse.
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by WhatwouldJeterdo on Jan 14, 2012 12:10 AM EST up reply actions
Scout: “Yankees believed Martin would be a better answer behind plate for next few years than Montero. Thus his value on team was less.”
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cashman is as much to blame
he loves martin
Boone Logan is a good boy. So is David Robertson. Team A.J.
Well, when Russ inevitably ends up injured/overworked/half dead/ineffective, I hope they enjoy Cervelli.
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by WhatwouldJeterdo on Jan 14, 2012 12:12 AM EST up reply actions
/Romine
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…who would be ok maybe if you could use the DH for him. That bat is not major league ready.
Mike Ashmore @mashmore98
Romine’s a great guy personally. He is. But do I think he’ll develop into a starting big league catcher? He isn’t there yet…
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by WhatwouldJeterdo on Jan 14, 2012 12:16 AM EST up reply actions
No no no, he’s going to be super awesome…ly mediocre at best
by Jedi Master A-Rod on Jan 14, 2012 12:18 AM EST up reply actions
Im sure he will do fine catching Pineda
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by YankeesJets on Jan 14, 2012 12:18 AM EST up reply actions
And look completely helpless at the plate
by Jedi Master A-Rod on Jan 14, 2012 12:20 AM EST up reply actions
Wont matter as Pineda will be hurling shutouts,lol
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by YankeesJets on Jan 14, 2012 12:22 AM EST up reply actions
Ashmore’s really nice and smart. Wish he would get a full job already.
Anyway, I think Romine needs to play in AAA a bit, work on his game, and hopefully something good comes out of that.
You think Yankees should sign a DH type now?
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Should? Meh. But I think they will. Carlos Pena is my guess.
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by WhatwouldJeterdo on Jan 14, 2012 12:18 AM EST up reply actions
It’s either that, Jones or whoever the Cody Ransom Award front runner is at that point.
by Jedi Master A-Rod on Jan 14, 2012 12:19 AM EST up reply actions
Chad Moeller
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by YankeesJets on Jan 14, 2012 12:28 AM EST up reply actions
Ive already seen Montero in the same sentence as Gehrig, Mattingly, and Posada tonight. I get why WWJD is upset, as this was a kid she watched from early. But some of the others should temper their expectations just a tad. They already had his number retired and tickets to the HOF ceremony.
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jesus christ no one said that.
It was the freaking potential. He was ours and he had the potential to be a part of that history. No one said he is the next Gehrig, I never said that.
Potential?
Everybody has potential. More times than not, its guys like Cano and Mattingly that come out of nowhere. Falling in love with spects isnt a great thing, they rarely pan out. You did exactly what the yanks wanted other teams to do, you bought the hype.
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by YankeesJets on Jan 14, 2012 12:08 AM EST up reply actions
whatever.
let me just be a robot now for the sake of 3 more wins. Beep Boop. Championships or nothing.
I want to watch my players win. Sure I’ll root for Pineda, but Montero was homegrown and they are always more loved, regardless of talent. Look at Jeter vs. Arod
FWIW John Manuel, some Baseball America dude said the other week on Yankees Baseball Daily that he thinks Gary Sanchez will have a better career than Montero.
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I saw Sanchez play this summer, and while his hitting was surely impressive, he looked completely lost behind the plate. He can grow out of that, I hope he does, but if he doesn’t…
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by WhatwouldJeterdo on Jan 14, 2012 12:04 AM EST up reply actions
Welp, his career behind the plate is completely fucked. He didn’t turn into a Gold Glover from jump street, so he’s going to suck forever.
by Jedi Master A-Rod on Jan 14, 2012 12:05 AM EST up reply actions
Ron Washington
said Jeter was “no fucking shortstop” when he saw him play in the minors.
Good thing the Yanks listened to outside opinions when it came to him…
He was also high as a kite and probably looking at the wrong player,lol
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by YankeesJets on Jan 14, 2012 12:09 AM EST up reply actions
Watching Chapelle right now,lol
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by YankeesJets on Jan 14, 2012 12:11 AM EST up reply actions
I actually really do think he’s the next Montero. Like legitimate clone type
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Montero isnt even Montero yet
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by YankeesJets on Jan 14, 2012 12:09 AM EST up reply actions
The "next Montero"
This I love. U guys!!!!!
Killin me.
The Bieberization of certain “Yankee Prospects” is way off the charts here at PSA.
I’ll keep a lookout on the radar for a “Baby Sanchez” over the next half decade.
if you don't like the Pineda deal, read this
How good might Michael Pineda be? Here are just a few tidbits to chew on:
• This guy whiffed 173 hitters in 171 innings last year. And you know how many starters in the history of the Yankees have averaged better than a strikeout an inning over a full season? How about TWO: Roger Clemens in 2002 and David Cone twice (1997 and 1998).
• Those 173 strikeouts and that 9.1 strikeouts-per-nine-innings ratio came in a season in which Pineda pitched at 22 years old. Want to guess how many right-handed pitchers in the history of the American League ever had that many punchouts and that good a strikeout ratio at age 22 or younger? Exactly one: Dave Boswell (barely), for the 1966 Twins.
• Pineda’s average fastball whooshed along at 94.7 miles per hour last year, according to FanGraphs. The only starting pitchers in the big leagues who topped that were Alexi Ogando (95.1), Justin Verlander (95.0) and David Price (94.8).
• And Pineda generated a fabulous 24.2 swing-and-miss percentage last year, according to FanGraphs. The only pitchers in either league who did better than that were Tim Lincecum (24.9), Brandon Morrow (24.6), Cole Hamels (24.6) and Mat Latos (24.5).
Marc Carig @MarcCarig
Rival team executive says Jose Campos right now is more a thrower than he is a pitcher, but with a “lively arm and fastball. Good upside.”
For whatever it’s worth.
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by WhatwouldJeterdo on Jan 14, 2012 12:17 AM EST reply actions
Noesi projected to be a 4th or 5th starter at 25
This guy is 19 and has top of the rotation potential…Please stop with the our prospects are infinitely better than anyone else’s attitude.
this
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by YankeesJets on Jan 14, 2012 12:30 AM EST up reply actions
he's not better
he’s more of a sure thing. When Compos makes it to AAA and is still as good then we can talk
What Noesi's job for the next 4 years with Pineda and the B's in the rotation?
Mop up duty? Why not flip him for a high potential arm
well we wouldn't get Pineda without Noesi
its not like we got NPineda and gave up Noesi in separate transactions
Let's be real
Noesi wasn’t worth that much.
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sounds like Pineda
so why not just get Campos and to hell with Pineda
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OMG. WTF Cashman
Brian Cashman stressed, “huge risk” in deal w/Mariners. “I gave up a ton (for Pineda). To me, Montero is Mike PIazza. He’s Miguel Cabrera.”
Cashman trying to make the Ms feel better about the deal
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by YankeesJets on Jan 14, 2012 12:25 AM EST up reply actions
THEN WHY DID YOU MAKE THE GODDAMN DEAL?!
by bango31 on Jan 14, 2012 12:26 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Pineda better be Roy Halladay
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RT @richardiurilli: Jesus Montero, 2/13/2010: “I hope they [the Yankees] don’t trade me because I want to be with them the rest of my life.”
:(
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by WhatwouldJeterdo on Jan 14, 2012 12:43 AM EST reply actions
I follow too many Yankee people on Twitter :(
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by WhatwouldJeterdo on Jan 14, 2012 1:00 AM EST up reply actions
Pineda grew up a Yankees fan!
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Nope, Yanks still dont want to add payroll
Tonights deals were right in line with what they were looking to do. I could see a Pena or Damon brought in.
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by YankeesJets on Jan 14, 2012 12:52 AM EST up reply actions
because their seems to be no market right now for prince, i think he is going to have to start looking at shorter length(2-3 year) deals and since he is young enough it will set him up for his real big contract at 31 which he obviously wants. where would be a better place to show you can mash for a few seasons to get that deal? short porch, big stage, dh(if hes ready to do that, it’s definitely his future). 2 years 50 mill?, 3 for 75? while i think their is a chance their could be a fit there, id be shocked if the yankees pulled the trigger on that
The only good thing I can say about this whole ordeal (as of right now)
is that I found out AFTER it was all said and done. If I had been following this since the rumors started today, I would’ve been completely crushed. Instead, I’m just mostly crushed.
It happened in about 10 minutes. There was no huge lead up.
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by WhatwouldJeterdo on Jan 14, 2012 1:39 AM EST up reply actions
I came home from work, logged on and saw the Yankees signed Kuroda and went: cool, cool, cool.
Then I scroll down and saw they traded Jesus and I was speechless. It was like a really bad dream and my face got all hot.
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I was talking to Jedi when I first saw the “Mariners on verge of trade for young impact hitter” and I immediately said “welp, there goes Jesus”. Then Axisa and everyone started tweeting about having a bad feeling, and I knew.
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by WhatwouldJeterdo on Jan 14, 2012 1:49 AM EST up reply actions
I went through all stages of depression in the matter of 2 minutes
Ive come to accept that the Yankees rather have Pineda as the cornerstone of the future rather than Jesus.
The moment I saw that the ideal the Yankees build themselves upon, Championship or bust, is "dumb"
Was the moment I knew I was not going to be reading the rest of these comments. You guys are silly. This is a championship caliber team now, it was not yesterday.
You ought to
Every team has that goal, the Yankees are just far better at it than anyone else. There will be another Jesus Montero.
They scored 3, 4, and 2 runs respectively in the games they lost. That’s not enough to win in the postseason.
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"Why not? I had a better year than he did." - G.H. Ruth
remember that time Jeter was one foot away from a homerun?
Timely hitting.
and the fact that we outscored the Tigers in the series but still got beat?
Timely hitting.
I guess pitching is why the Cardinals won…
This is not a good deal...
If Seattle needed an offensive player, sign Fielder. This deal is lopsided on Seattle’s side. Are you telling me, that the New York Yankees, loaded with prospects, could not make or receive a better deal than this????
Cashman HAS lost his touch, and given it to Glen Sather.
You don’t move a Montero…NEVER!!!
For Pineda…a kid who couldn’t handle the A’s? And the Angels? This is what we’re looking to put up against Boston, Toronto, Tampa Bay and Baltimore…all very good hitting teams in our division??
Sabathia, Nova, Pineda, Burnett and Kuroda. Well, since we’ll be “winning” two of every five game starts and our bullpen will be taxed by June…enjoy.
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No thanks...
I’m a Yankee. Hate Boston…town, team and all associations.
"Fart like a man! It's hockey!"
Be honest, though…we just gave up a blue-chip…for a guy who has a 12.6 ERA to an Angels team, pre-Pujols. With an ERA of 14.54 in Fenway…you’re happy with that??
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He's pitched one game at each
So you’re telling me because he had 2 bad games in his rookie year he’s a dud?
Hey I'll fix it to what it was before today
Sabathia, Nova,PinedaGarcia, Burnett andKurodaHughes. Well, since we’ll be "winning" two of every five game starts and our bullpen will be taxed by June…enjoy.
Seem more likely? You can’t act like the rotation got worse. Lay off the bourbon.
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"Why not? I had a better year than he did." - G.H. Ruth
You don’t move a Montero…NEVER!!!
We did. And it was a good move. (Hint: He isn’t really Jesus.)
So Are peple still upset?
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by Brandon C. on Jan 14, 2012 2:56 AM EST via iPhone app reply actions
I like we got more pitching..
although I hate to see Baby Jesus go..In Cash I trust I guess
by BlackandGoldTSgt on Jan 14, 2012 3:01 AM EST up reply actions
People who are still upset won't be happy until Pineda wins a cy young
or Montero is back in pinstripes. Even though most analysis has the Yankees at the better end of the deal, the love for montero trumps pretty much any reasonable comparison at the value of the two players.
I go out and party one night and THIS is what I fucking come home too??
Sadly though, I’m not shocked. At all. I know what cockfucking organization I dickfucking root for. CLEARLY pitching is the Yankees problem even though, and correct me if I’m dicktardely wrong here, I’m pretty damn well sure our hitting was what didn’t help us beat the Tigers in the postseason, as well as how I’m pretty sure the Philles Instant World Series Ramen pitching staff got them fucking far too. Can’t take any chances.
Ah well, it’s not like I’m going to really enjoy the sport more after 2013’s Selig-fuckery anyway. Go Yankees, rah rah rah and all that happy nipplesucking bullshit!
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by I'mGivingYouARaise on Jan 14, 2012 3:59 AM EST reply actions
I don't drink.
I’m 100% sober and I meant every word I fucking said.
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by I'mGivingYouARaise on Jan 14, 2012 4:17 AM EST up reply actions
How was the party?
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It was fantastic
As was The Girl With The Dragon Tattoo which I saw afterwards
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by I'mGivingYouARaise on Jan 14, 2012 2:39 PM EST up reply actions
We need to talk more about that
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Anything to keep my mind off of this clusterfuck
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by I'mGivingYouARaise on Jan 14, 2012 4:01 PM EST up reply actions
?
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I want to watch it!
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But there are a few scenes where it’s not so good.
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Geesh. Its a great pitching deal for the Yankees.
And that’s what we NEEDED. Montero was a hitting prospect with, what, 28 days as a Yankee?
I trust you are not going to be a Mariner’s fan now. We’re on our way to a great season.
Without a true #2 we made it to the playoffs and LOST in 5 games due to lack. of. HITTING.
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by I'mGivingYouARaise on Jan 14, 2012 4:17 AM EST up reply actions
This is true, but you know the playoffs are SSS. You can’t say the Yankees are a bad-hitting team when they only slumped in the ALDS. Playoffs are a crap shoot, unless a problem is recurring throughout the season, you don’t need to address it. The offense crapped the bed for a few games in the playoffs. The offense did not crap the bed that much during the season, so hitting isn’t a concern.
"Don't you think it's strange that you'll make more money than President Hoover this year?"
"Why not? I had a better year than he did." - G.H. Ruth
But someone pitching is ALWAYS a concern
Always.
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by I'mGivingYouARaise on Jan 14, 2012 2:40 PM EST up reply actions
Yeah, 28 days
And in those 28 days, he absolutely destroyed major league pitching.
But yeah, let’s focus on the fact that he only spent 28 days in the majors.
I enjoyed the 28 days too, but lets not mistake
that for being immensely relevant to the future of the Yankees. In the end, it wasn’t. hate to see him go but I’ll trust the move. I like where we’re heading.
just wait till Pineda starts pitching like AJ
Last night, a comedian died in New York. Somebody knows why. Somebody knows
Or Jesus starts hitting like Jorge '11?
Anything is possible. The game is won on what’s probable.
someone has probably said this already but i'll say it:
if you’re trading Jesus Montero to the Mariners, you better be getting King Felix in return. not a guy who had a good first year (or 2? idk how long he’s been around for). this is a sucky trade though, in my opinion. we lost a guy who could’ve anchored the Yankees lineup for a long time and, yes, we gained pitching depth, but the price was too high. Boo Cashman
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