Polls
by Brandon C. on Jan 10, 2012 4:58 PM EST
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PrintRather than writing ten polls out individually, here are ten questions for possible usage in future articles for Pinstripe Alley.
If you would be so kind, please answer the ten questions in the comments. Thank you!
1. Is Jack Morris worthy of being inducted into the HOF?
2. Is Andy Pettitte? (Note: real HOF, not Yankees HOF)
3. Is Mike Mussina?
4.Would you be upset if a Yankee wears #21 next season?
5. Should proven steroid usage be a factor in HOF voting?
6. Should accused, or suspected usage be a factor?
7. Do you consider Roger Clemens among the Yankees greats?
8. Alex Rodriguez?
9. Is the Hall of Fame too crowded already?
10. Would you rather the Yankees overpay in a trade or a signing?
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Only answers here
1. No
2. No
3. No
4. No
5. Yes
6. No
7.Yes
8. Yes
9. Yes
10. yes
Answers
1. No way
2. No
3. Yes
4. No
5. A factor but not definitive (sorry for the wishy washy answer)
6. No
7. No
8. getting there
9. NO
10 trade no, signing yes
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by Lord Duggan on Jan 10, 2012 5:09 PM EST up reply actions 3 recs
God, I was hoping for this.
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by WhatwouldJeterdo on Jan 10, 2012 5:10 PM EST up reply actions
well isn't that adorable.
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Looks just like me!
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Let us see
1.N
2.N
3.N
4.N
5.N(steroids became a part of the game- sure it is a shame that they did, but you cannot definitively differentiate between users and non-users so you have no fair way of distinguishing who should and should not be excluded)
6.N
7.N
8.N
9.Y
10.signing
"The dictionary is the only place that success comes before work. Hard work is the price we must pay for success. I think you can accomplish anything if you're willing to pay the price." -Vince Lombardi
1. Is Jack Morris worthy of being inducted into the HOF?
Absolutely not.
2. Is Andy Pettitte? (Note: real HOF, not Yankees HOF)
No
3. Is Mike Mussina?
Borderline
4.Would you be upset if a Yankee wears #21 next season?
Don’t care.
5. Should proven steroid usage be a factor in HOF voting?
Yes.
6. Should accused, or suspected usage be a factor?
Absolutely not.
7. Do you consider Roger Clemens among the Yankees greats?
No, he wasn’t that great with the Yanks.
8. Alex Rodriguez?
Yes, but that could change depending on how these last six years go.
9. Is the Hall of Fame too crowded already?
No. It’s a museum, and people lose sight of that.
10. Would you rather the Yankees overpay in a trade or a signing?
Not right now. Maybe if Oswalt, Kuroda, and Edwin Jackson were off the market, I’d be okay with an overpay in a trade.
On a one year deal, I don’t care what the Yankees offer a guy like Oswalt or Kuroda. It has no effect on the 2014 budget and both offer rotation upgrades.
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by Frank Campagnola on Jan 10, 2012 5:14 PM EST reply actions
May I ask how A-Rod could change depending on how the last six years go?
Obviously he’ll decline but that isn’t going to erase some of the legendary accomplishments he’s achieved.
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Never mind
Misread the question- I understand it now. My bad.
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Polls
by Brandon C. on Jan 10, 2012 1:58 PM PST
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Rather than writing ten polls out individually, here are ten questions for possible usage in future articles for Pinstripe Alley.
1. No.
2. Yes (very borderline).
3. Yes.
4. No.
5. No.
6. No.
7. No – he’s in Reggie’s category of a HOFer who had some of his great years here.
8. Yes
9. Yes (in that there are guys in there who don’t belong).
10. Signing.
by long time listener on Jan 10, 2012 5:23 PM EST reply actions
Polls
1. No.
2. No.
3. No.
4. Not really.
5. A factor yes. Some consider certain players Hall-worthy who used it but they would not even be sniffing a Hall-worthiness conversation without it. They should not be voted for.
6. Until there is proof offered, no. But the Hall should reserve the right to retract the honor if one did not deserve it while they played as clean (if they ever did).
7. No.
8. That is yet to be seen. He needs a few more very productive years in pinstripes.
9. I am sure you could find more players who don’t belong in the Hall than you can that do but are not in.
10. No.
1. No
2. No
3. No
4. No
5. No
6. No
7. No
8. Yes
9. Yes
10. Signing
Jesus Montero fangirl
by WhatwouldJeterdo on Jan 10, 2012 5:35 PM EST reply actions
I’ve said it before, but it truly baffles me that anyone could get upset about a number.
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by WhatwouldJeterdo on Jan 10, 2012 11:13 PM EST up reply actions
1. Undecided
2. Yes
He has won the most playoff games of all pitchers of all time. Plus isn’t he right behind Whitey Ford for WS wins?
3. NO
4. NO
Hopefully Montero wears this number.
5. No
6. No
7. No
8. Yes
9. No
10. No
I’m leaning more towards undecided though, depends on what you mean by ‘overpay in a trade’. Are we overpaying for the remainder of A.J.‘s contract in order to trade him? I wouldn’t mind that, but no for anything else.
hmm
1. No
2. No
3. Yes
4. No
5. No
6. No
7. No
8. Yes
9. Yes
10. Spend some dough. Grow through teh farm.
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by Livestrong77nyy on Jan 10, 2012 6:00 PM EST reply actions
descended ovaries.
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by noonoo on Jan 10, 2012 7:15 PM EST via iPhone app up reply actions
Good poll questions...
What about should Pete Rose be allowed in the HOT?
by Kansas Yankee on Jan 10, 2012 6:39 PM EST via mobile reply actions
That creepy bowl cut was definitely not hot.
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by MattF15 on Jan 10, 2012 7:47 PM EST via iPhone app up reply actions
Sure, but not before 2019
He lied about betting for 15 years, so bar him from baseball for at least another 15.
Or just put him in posthumously, or let him in but keep him banned from the proceedings and baseball otherwise. I don’t see a pressing need for his enshrinement, like Bonds and Clemens. They were greats, they earned solid money (even Rose—he lived comfortably until his ban), and were honored for years before souring. Admission is a first step, not a final step.
posthumously?
he’s not dead, what would be the point to wait until he was dead? Just so he wouldn’t be able to see himself get in? That seems pretty pointless. Why ban him just until he’s dead? You might as well just reinstate him now since he’ll eventually get in just until he’s dead.
why not kill him, them let him in?
by long time listener on Jan 10, 2012 9:59 PM EST up reply actions
This made me laugh loudly
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by Brandon C. on Jan 11, 2012 1:18 AM EST via iPhone app up reply actions
I believe that's the Klingon method!
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by I'mGivingYouARaise on Jan 11, 2012 1:24 AM EST up reply actions
Most I’ve seen the word dead in a comment here
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by Brandon C. on Jan 11, 2012 1:19 AM EST via iPhone app up reply actions
Answers
1. No
2. No
3. Yes
4. No
5. No
6. No
7. No
8. Yes
9. No
10. Depends. If they’re overpaying in AAV, then definitely a signing. If they’re overpaying in contract length, then probably a trade.
by Let's Talk About Tex Baby on Jan 10, 2012 6:48 PM EST reply actions
Poll
1. No, he but definitely a worthy candidate for the Hall of Very Good
2. No, as much as the Yankee bias wants to say yes
3. Yes
4. No
5. No
6. Definitely No
7. No
8. By the end of the contract
9. No, it was bound to have a large amount of players at some point
10. Signing, they are more flexible with money, especially the new restrictions on the Yankees ability to acquire young international talent
1. Is Jack Morris worthy of being inducted into the HOF?
No.
2. Is Andy Pettitte? (Note: real HOF, not Yankees HOF)
Pettitte is probably the Jack Morris of the ‘90s/’00s.
3. Is Mike Mussina?
Without a doubt. However you spin it, Mussina is, at worst, one of the 20 greatest pitchers since WWII.
4.Would you be upset if a Yankee wears #21 next season?
Probably not. They need to either retire the number formally or put it back into circulation.
5. Should proven steroid usage be a factor in HOF voting?
No. People who get speeding tickets aren’t the only ones who speed.
6. Should accused, or suspected usage be a factor?
No. It’s impossible to know who used and who didn’t (for the most part). I’m of the school of thought that says so many players used that it really negated the “advantage”.
7. Do you consider Roger Clemens among the Yankees greats?
No. Clemens’ best season in pinstripes was only his 12th best season overall.
8. Alex Rodriguez?
Yes. He had some of his best seasons in pinstripes and will wind up having played almost 15 seasons in New York.
9. Is the Hall of Fame too crowded already?
No. Baseball keeps getting bigger. There were 16 teams in 1950, today there are 30. At least twice as many players should make the Hall from this era.
10. Would you rather the Yankees overpay in a trade or a signing?
Depends. If they’re overpaying in dollars, not years, then I’ll take the signing.
Jesus Montero has to be a full-time catcher, or the Yankees have to trade him. One or the other. Based on the age and contracts of the other players on this team, that's the only place he fits long-term on the Yankees roster.
by 3460kuri on Jan 10, 2012 7:47 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
Pettitte is probably the Jack Morris of the ‘90s/’00s.
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4.Would you be upset if a Yankee wears #21 next season?
Probably not. They need to either retire the number formally or put it back into circulation.
Somehow, I get this feeling that they want to retire it, but they’d rather honor Jeter & Mariano after they retire first before getting to any lesser candidates from the era.
Personally, I don’t think #21 should be retired, but that’s me.
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They wouldn’t do that. Retiring them one at a time would give them the most revenue.
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1. No
2. Can’t decide
3. Yes, but not until later eligibility years
4. Yes
5. Yes
6. Yes
7. No
8. Yes
9. No
10. Signing. We’re the MF yankees – I’m sick of hearing about a budget. You want to charge me $50 to sit in outfield 300 seats, $9.50 for a Coors Light, and cash in on all the insane merchandising moola? Then don’t tell me you’re on a budget. You want to save cash? Fine, use it to let the fans catch a break. Otherwise, spend away.
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Didn't know if I had to show my work, so I just put the answers:
1. No
2. Yes
3. Yes
4. Yes
5. Yes
6. No
7. Yes
8. Yes
9. No
10. Signing
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Poll Answers
1. Yes
2. No (borderline though if you consider postseason)
3. No
4. No, (but Pauly deserves the honor)
5. Yes
6. No (Outside of heavy circumstantial evidence i.e. Game of Shadows-Bonds)
7. No
8. No
9. Yes
10. Signing, the team prints money
by upstateNYYFan1984 on Jan 10, 2012 8:32 PM EST reply actions
Hmm
The team prints money
This is not true, if it were the case the Yankees could just buy the league and declare themselves champions every year.
BSME
I am curious
Why Morris over Andy and Moose? He pitched in a slightly easier period of time, had worse peripherals, and had less success in the postseason than Andy.
You are among the few that have Morris as a yes, let alone without Andy and Moose, so your argument should be intriguing.
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They let Blyleven in, and Jack Morris had very similar numbers to my recollection in the same era. He had more 20 win seasons than Blyleven. He also pitched probably the best World Series game ever, next to Don Larsen’s perfect game. I think having an all time baseball moment to his credit gives him an edge in my opinion. He also helped the 1984 Tigers, 1992 and 1993 Blue Jays to titles.
by upstateNYYFan1984 on Jan 11, 2012 4:53 PM EST up reply actions
Questions
1. Is Jack Morris worthy of being inducted into the HOF?- Absolutely not.
2. Is Andy Pettitte? (Note: real HOF, not Yankees HOF)- My heart would tell me yes, but my brain and the numbers say no.
3. Is Mike Mussina?- I’ll say borderline, but I’m definitely rooting for him. He had a terrific career and he has a better case than Pettitte does. He’s still my favorite Yankee starter of all time.
4.Would you be upset if a Yankee wears #21 next season?- Only if it’s a player that is playing so badly and doesn’t deserve to be on the team in the first place, regardless of his number.
5. Should proven steroid usage be a factor in HOF voting?- Perhaps, but only if he’s proven guilty after the testing program has been in place. It’s not fair to punish players for doing something that most of the league was doing and the league was practically allowing, as was the case pretty much from the late ‘80s through 2003. But even if it’s proven after the testing I wouldn’t shun them out completely. In that case it would depend on the player and their data.
6. Should accused, or suspected usage be a factor?
Absolutely not. Innocent until proven guilty.
7. Do you consider Roger Clemens among the Yankees greats?
No, but that has absolutely nothing to do with the suspected steroid usage. It has to do with the fact that he didn’t play for the Yankees that long, similar to Reggie. A Yankee Great needs to have been with the team for beyond 10 years in my opinion, and Roger just doesn’t fit that bill. He still however was a fantastic pitcher for this team and one of the greatest pitchers of this generation, and keeping him out of the HOF would be a travesty.
8. Alex Rodriguez?
Absolutely. His accomplishments are historic, he’s been consistently among the best in the league for almost 15 years and his overall numbers are among the best of all time. To me, he’s a first ballot hall of famer and probably on my list of the 10 greatest players ever. In my eyes this isn’t even a question.
9. Is the Hall of Fame too crowded already?
I think so. I’ve always thought that the hall should be more selective, truly reserving it for the greatest of the great players. They’re allowing a lot of players who I think had great careers but may not be hall of famers.
10. Would you rather the Yankees overpay in a trade or a signing?
Signing. A trade you are losing both top prospects and possibly money later on. In a signing, it’s only money.
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Misread the A-Rod point
I thought it was Hall of Fame, not Yankee Great. But the answer is still yes, since he’ll have played 15 seasons in NY by the time he’s done and had some truly historic seasons and moments as a Yankee. He’s put up some of the best single seasons as a Yankee since Mantle.
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1. Eh—yes.
2. YES! Emphatically.
3. YES. Just as emphatically as above.
4. Roiled. I’d write a letter. It should be retired already.
5. It depends on the circumstances.
6. Depends.
7. No.
8. No. He’s got a long way to go: MLB great, but not yet a Yankee great (more rings would help).
9. No. It’s a 100+ year old sport, and its evolution shouldn’t discriminate against players from different eras with different baseline averages.
10. Signing. As long as baseball doesn’t have a hard cap, spend away and stockpile at the major league and minor league levels. Signing an overpriced player also means that he’s not playing in Boston, Los Angeles/Anaheim, etc.
1. Is Jack Morris worthy of being inducted into the HOF?
-VERY good pitcher, but NOT of HOFer. I can’t put Morris in the same class as Seaver, Ryan, Ford, Koufax, etc.
2. Is Andy Pettitte? (Note: real HOF, not Yankees HOF)
-love Andy, but no.
3. Is Mike Mussina?
-Absolutely. The man won 270 games playing solely in the AL East against some of the best lineups in baseball, and was a great ambassador for the game. Never a sniff of steroids accusations, either. Had a 123 ERA+, 7.1 K/9 vs 2BB/9 AND he won 117 more games than he lost. Moose is a HOFer and it’d be a shame if he never got in. One of the best pitchers in the game in the past 20 years.
4.Would you be upset if a Yankee wears #21 next season?
-Love Paulie, so I’d be kinda upset if a scrub wore it.
5. Should proven steroid usage be a factor in HOF voting?
-Absolutely.
6. Should accused, or suspected usage be a factor?
-Nope. That is why there should be a recall for a HOF member proven to have taken PED’s.
7. Do you consider Roger Clemens among the Yankees greats?
-Nope.
8. Alex Rodriguez?
-At the moment, no.
9. Is the Hall of Fame too crowded already?
-No, it’s a museum, so let’s just make sure the best of the best that get in.
10. Would you rather the Yankees overpay in a trade or a signing?
-As a fan, I LOVE seeing homegrown guys come up a become stars for the team like Jeter, Mo, Posada, Andy Pettitte, and Robinson Cano. So I’d much rather overpay in a signing and give the kids a shot to become fixtures with the team.
Nope. That is why there should be a recall for a HOF member proven to have taken PED’s.
and what about Amphetamines?
Amphetamines
in no way could improve one’s play. They might as well just drink a shitload of coffee. But it’s easier to take a pill. All that running to the rest room during the game would be quite disruptive.
Romine!
I'm pretty sure that before steroids amphetamines were the method of choice for improving one's game. So the question is not much of a stretch.
I think the reason was because amphetamines would heighten alertness. Or something like that.
Hypes up your focus and energy. It’s ridiculous to say that speed is like drinking a lot coffee, unless you want to say that steroids are like drinking a ton of protein shakes. It can absolutely improve the way someone plays a game, that’s why they took them.
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by WhatwouldJeterdo on Jan 11, 2012 12:44 PM EST up reply actions
The point is they don’t make a player better. Heighten alertness? Definitely. But they don’t give one more strength and quicker bat speed. Roids do. Better?
Romine!
If you can focus more, you can hit better, train more efficiently and longer. That’s an artificially gained advantage and is just as much cheating as what people who took steroids did.
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by WhatwouldJeterdo on Jan 11, 2012 12:55 PM EST up reply actions
They improve your reaction times (that’s based on clinical studies). MIght not improve your bat speed…certainly would improve your reaction time to the pitch…or to the ball/play, in the field.
They’d also allow you to play every day, at a higher level than you would normally play if dealing with fatigue.
They make you better…just in a different way.
One more question
Have you ever taken amphetamines? I have, and I know they wouldn’t have helped me in my playing days. I’d have been too hyper.
Romine!
I don’t think your results can speak for everyone. I’ve seen Adderall turn some of my friends into A students and seen it turn some friends into wall bouncing maniacs. Drugs have different impacts on different people and just because you don’t think it would have personally helped you, doesn’t mean that it didn’t give lots of people an unfair advantage. If it was something that made them play worse because it made them too hyper or just had no impact at all, greenies wouldn’t have been as big of a thing as they were. The guys obviously saw results that they liked from using them.
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by WhatwouldJeterdo on Jan 11, 2012 1:02 PM EST up reply actions
It also depends on WHICH amphetamine you take. One type (Ridalin, for example) can have drastically different effects than another (Adderall, for example) on specific people.
I’ve seen combined type ADHD patients have DRAMATICALLY different responses to those 2 drugs. One works wonders, the other makes things worse (or has much less effect).
Which is why players have always experimented to create their own personal “cocktails”.
Let's say I agree with you about the effects of amphetamines as PEDs
that doesn’t absolve the issue of “breaking the rules” of baseball by consuming a controlled substance:
From Wikipedia:
During World War II amphetamine was extensively used to combat fatigue and increase alertness in soldiers. After decades of reported abuse, the FDA banned Benzedrine inhalers, and limited amphetamine to prescription use in 1965, but non-medical use remained common. Amphetamine became a schedule II drug in the USA under the Controlled Substances Act in 1971.
So, if Amphetamines were illegal to use without a prescription, and MLB bans all such drugs, they were still breaking the rules and shouldn’t be allowed in the HoF, just like PED users (if one believes that PED users should not be in the HoF).
I just don’t put the two in the same ballpark. Steroids physically alter a person. They make one stronger and faster and quicker. If one can’t see difference between steroids and amphetamines as performance enhancers…
Romine!
Taking an illegal substance = taking an illegal substance. Cheating = cheating. If someone is going to be morally righteous about steroids and not the other banned substances that were used to enhance performance, they are splitting hairs.
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by WhatwouldJeterdo on Jan 11, 2012 1:26 PM EST up reply actions
I'll grant you that
but I’m really not trying to “split hairs” or even argue. I guess I just have a different perspective from having done steroids and personally knowing the effect.
Romine!
Not for nothing
but steroids (and PEDs) have come a long way since the 80s. They’re designer drugs: designed to minimize side-effects, increase performance, and be all but undetectable.
But the real issue that I think WWJD and I have is if someone cheated, they cheated. Whether they threw spitballs (or whatever to enhance pitches), used pine tar, PEDs (greenies or HGH or steroids), or whatever other rules they might break. I don’t like moral superiority that is selective, which is my big problem with the BBWAA voters.
Exactly that. People who are like OMG DON’T LET CHEATERS/BAD PEOPLE IN THE HALL are ignoring that there are cheaters and bad people already in the Hall. Just because they cheated differently, doesn’t mean they didn’t cheat, and weren’t just as wrong to do so. Just because xyz people think that this cheating > that cheating doesn’t mean that one group is less guilty of cheating than the other, but it’s somehow become that.
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by WhatwouldJeterdo on Jan 11, 2012 1:45 PM EST up reply actions
Amphetamines do, too. They alter the brain chemistry, decrease fatigue and improve reaction times. They heighten alertness.
They also vastly improved longevity, and the ability to play every day.
Is there a difference? Sure. Scientific advances are always going to make “the next big thing” better than the thing before. The more recent batches of HGH outperform the stuff Pettite took by miles.
But it’s still cheating. It’s still taking a substance to give you an advantage over “the other guy” (or, to keep up with the other guy who’s also taking it).
There are plenty of athletes that have been caught taking steriods that were still terrible.
by MichaelGGBGrabow on Jan 11, 2012 1:55 PM EST up reply actions
Which is why you’d take something else to level you out.
Upper before the game, downer after (so you could rest/recover). The choice “downer” in the 70’s and 80’s was booze…but there were plenty of pills out there, too.
Good question....
…because some of the stuff they did back then, if using the drugs of today, would likely have killed them.
I guess the simple answer is: potency and luck.
You cannot believe telling people about this.
by MichaelGGBGrabow on Jan 11, 2012 1:53 PM EST up reply actions
You bring that up with some regularity.
by MichaelGGBGrabow on Jan 12, 2012 9:20 AM EST up reply actions
when the conversation deems it, yes. I will not debate something with someone who has experience with something, whatever it is, and I don’t. I’d feel silly arguing a point with someone when they obviously know more about it. But…
Romine!
Just because you say it wouldn’t have helped you personally we should all say “ok, well that settles it then”? Yeah, no.
Jesus Montero fangirl
by WhatwouldJeterdo on Jan 12, 2012 2:01 PM EST up reply actions
1. Is Jack Morris worthy of being inducted into the HOF?
No
2. Is Andy Pettitte? (Note: real HOF, not Yankees HOF)
No.
3. Is Mike Mussina?
Yeaaaah, but if he doesn’t get in I won’t lose any sleep.
4.Would you be upset if a Yankee wears #21 next season?
The only # I’d really be upset if a player wore next year would be #51. I love Paulie, but no.
5. Should proven steroid usage be a factor in HOF voting?
Nope. MLB clearly knew about it and allowed it/looked the other way in order to get people back into baseball after the 94’ Strike. They made they bed and now they have to get fucked in it.
6. Should accused, or suspected usage be a factor?
YES. Oh wait, no it should not.
7. Do you consider Roger Clemens among the Yankees greats?
Oh god lord, no!
8. Alex Rodriguez?
Definitely. Still an absurd fucking contract, but you can’t deny what he’s done.
9. Is the Hall of Fame too crowded already?
I dunno. Did it eat too much?
10. Would you rather the Yankees overpay in a trade or a signing?
Signing. Although, if they can underpay, I wouldn’t complain
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by I'mGivingYouARaise on Jan 10, 2012 8:40 PM EST reply actions
1. Is Jack Morris worthy of being inducted into the HOF? Don’t know enough about him, but sure
2. Is Andy Pettitte? (Note: real HOF, not Yankees HOF) Just based on postseason alone, I’d say yes
3. Is Mike Mussina? I don’t really know too much about him [hangs head in shame]; I’ll go hide now
4.Would you be upset if a Yankee wears #21 next season? No
5. Should proven steroid usage be a factor in HOF voting? Yes, but not as much as people make it out to be. If everyone was using them at the time, then how much of an advantage did they give? If they weren’t being punished at the time, should we penalize them after the fact?
6. Should accused, or suspected usage be a factor? Absolutely. I hereby accuse everyone who ever wore a Red Sox jersey of using steroids! Hahahaha! Now none of them can go into the Hall! /sarcasm
7. Do you consider Roger Clemens among the Yankees greats? Meh
8. Alex Rodriguez? Yes
9. Is the Hall of Fame too crowded already? Is it their fault that baseball has so many awesome players? It’s the best sport out there!
10. Would you rather the Yankees overpay in a trade or a signing? Signing
Don't know too much about Moose?
Yes, go hide!
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Send Rorschach to stay at his house for a week
That would be more than enough I would think.
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Oh yes.
Seal all the windows, doors, and vents. And turn on the heat.
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Answers
For the first three I looked at them and decided
1 No
2 Yes, postseason pushes him over, otherwise no
3 Yes.
Pettitte and Mussina both had better overall numbers (independent pitching and old school) while pitching through the entire steroid era. Morris had some great seasons, but I do not believe in the hall of very good.
4. No, because it isn’t tied to a legend, only a great.
5/6. NO, because for a long time it was technically not against the rules, but I would consider it in the case of post-BALCO cases because it was officially banned and drug testing implemented. Did you know the Chargers in their AFL championship year dosed their players with roids during training camp? Fun stuff.
7. No, a great, but not enough years as a Yankee to be a “Yankee Great”
8. Yes, because at the end he will have more years as a Yankee.
9. No, because we can’t play revisionist history.
10. Trade. You usually trade for known commodities and give away unknowns. I would rather get a solid to great player for the cost of a few potentially greats. And overpaying can cause you to miss out in years ahead thanks to this new tax system.
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No, skyrim came out and I got sucked in. And then played 7 other games all the way through. And re-discovered vodka. And watched my bloody chargers fail to meet expectations. And read a couple books.
Quiet offseason for the yanks + all of the above = reading but not commenting on PSA.
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I will.
The HoF debate got me sucked in on twitter (and my free NBA pass trial is over). Plus pitchers/catchers report next season, Boras clients are bound to sign soon, I have to get my fantasy rankings going so I can spend far too much time analyzing only to lose in the playoffs. Baseball is too good to stay away for too long
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What kind of vodka?
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by ZigKitsune on Jan 11, 2012 7:14 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
1. No
2. No, but yes if Morris gets in
3. No, but ditto ^ (Better career than the other two but Pettitte has better postseason numbers)
4. Not really, but if they are going to retire his number, they should actually do it- not unofficially do it.
5. For borderline HOF people
6. For borderline HOF people
7. Yes. He is an ass, but he was one of the best to wear the uniform
8. Yes
9. They should cut down the number of years to let you in. If you aren’t voted in after over a dozen tries, do you belong?
10. How about just give the money to someone who deserves it- pay market value.
I’ll explain my steroids argument briefly. Take Barry Bonds- he used steroids and cheated, but he is one of the best to ever play the game. A-Rod is also one of the best to ever play the game. Clemens is too. Palmeiro had over 500 homers and over 3000 hits- he also belongs.
Even if you use steroids, it takes a special baseball player to hit close to .300 for many years and hit over 500 (or 700) home runs. I can live with them being in the hall and having everyone say “Well a couple of those shouldn’t count”. Most would count.
Regarding number 9
Why not three or five years then? Seriously, do you deserve to get in because people campaigned for you and you get closer and closer so the media picks you up as a darling. While I hate the whole “not on the first ballot unless a legend” people, I can understand the difference between a HoFer and a first-ballot one, so not too much of an argument.
A player’s numbers do not change after they retire, campaigning should not factor in, and if the voters take their voting seriously, expand the ballots to a higher number so 3-5 years is plenty. Vet’s committee can pick up 10 years after that to catch the borderliners that history has been kind to.
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No, Pettitte did not have better postseason numbers
That’s the perception, but Moose was better in the playoffs in almost every single pitching category except wins (which stems from Andy’s high number of starts because the Yankees are always in the playoffs).
Andy has the reputation as a big game pitcher, but give me Mussina every time. The man was a better pitcher and that’s something that didn’t change in the playoffs.
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by nyyrocks29 on Jan 10, 2012 11:53 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
1. No
2. Borderline at best (I’d cite his postseason numbers)
3. Borderline at best
4. If that Yankee isn’t named Jesus Montero, yes.
5. No, only because it’s my belief that MLB and its fans practically encouraged it. The quasi-bodybuilders belting balls into areas three miles from home plate put people in the stands. I don’t see any of the players/owners/commish handing that money back.
6. No. Innocent until proven guilty.
7. No. Too brief a time in my opinion.
8. No, but this is purely based on the fact that I’m not an A-Rod fan. I have no objective reason.
9. I think there are some arguably undeserving members, but I don’t think that should have any impact on future inductees. If it’s earned, then it’s earned.
10. SIGNING. SIGNING. SIGNING. SIGNING.
1. Is Jack Morris worthy of being inducted into the HOF?
No
2. Is Andy Pettitte? (Note: real HOF, not Yankees HOF)
Borderline
3. Is Mike Mussina?
Hell yes, Probably could have gotten 300 wins if he didn’t retire. Also he was 5th in fWAR for pitchers from 1990 til now only behind Johnson, Maddux,Pedro, Clemens and Schillings..all HOFers (minus the roid allegations)
4.Would you be upset if a Yankee wears #21 next season?
No
5. Should proven steroid usage be a factor in HOF voting?
Not really.
6. Should accused, or suspected usage be a factor?
No
7. Do you consider Roger Clemens among the Yankees greats?
No, he was here for only a few season
8. Alex Rodriguez?
Yes
9. Is the Hall of Fame too crowded already?
Nope
10. Would you rather the Yankees overpay in a trade or a signing?
Signing, but also depends on who are are overpaying in a trade.
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by I'mGivingYouARaise on Jan 10, 2012 11:32 PM EST reply actions
1. Is Jack Morris worthy of being inducted into the HOF? No
2. Is Andy Pettitte? (Note: real HOF, not Yankees HOF) No
3. Is Mike Mussina? Yes
4.Would you be upset if a Yankee wears #21 next season? No
5. Should proven steroid usage be a factor in HOF voting? Eh, we’ll go with no
6. Should accused, or suspected usage be a factor? Absolutely not
7. Do you consider Roger Clemens among the Yankees greats? No
8. Alex Rodriguez? Yes
9. Is the Hall of Fame too crowded already? Yes, but it might be crowded anyway if I replaced all the undeserving Hall of Famers with people I think should be in, so who knows.
10. Would you rather the Yankees overpay in a trade or a signing? Signing, money’s just money, not prospects.
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Poll
1) Morris HOF – Yes (by today’s standards)
2) Pettitte HOF – Yes (by today’s standards)
3) Mussina HOF – No
4) Nobody should wear #21 for the Yankees except Pauly
5) Proven usage…..yes. They should not get in.
6) Suspected usage…….no
7) Clemens is an idiot. ‘nuff said.
8) ARod – He hasn’t been great for the Yankees for long enough
9) The HOF is way too crowded. C’mon. Gary Carter!!! Current/eligible players who should get in – Jeter, Mo, Pujols. That’s it. Sorry ARod……..you used.
10) The Yankees have deep pockets. We can afford a mistake or two when it comes to money. (Right A.J?). We should only trade our top prospects for proven, young talent (e.g. Felix Hernandez, Tim Lincecum).
How are Morris and Pettitte HOF but Mussina isn't?
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Basically, I said Morris and Pettitte because of the rings. Moose was really good for a long time, but not quite there for me. He didn’t dominate. He had a losing record in the postseason. Didn’t win a World Series. Only won 20 one time. Morris won 3 rings and won 20 three times. Pettitte won 5 rings and 20 games twice. He also won 19 playoff games.
your reasoning is going to be very unpopular on this site
by long time listener on Jan 11, 2012 11:31 AM EST up reply actions
How is it Mussina's fault he didn't win a World Series?
While he was a Yankee (2001 to 2008), the Yankees made the playoffs every year but 2008. How is it his fault they didn’t win any World Series rings at the same time?
I never said it was Moose’s fault he didn’t win a World Series. He won 270 games and was great for us. I wouldn’t be at all upset it he got into the Hall. By today’s standards, Pettitte is a lock to me. Moose and Morris are borderline.
Nice try with the Orlando Hernandez line. Irabu and Mitre…….not so much.
If it’s not his fault he didn’t win a World Series, why is it a factor in whether he should be in the Hall of Fame?
by long time listener on Jan 11, 2012 1:22 PM EST up reply actions
The thing is...
Pettite’s PED admission might hurt him.
Without it…i’d say he’s probably is based on his post-season numbers. Not a first ballot guy, but a guy who would get in.
WITH the admission? I’m not so sure. The voters have shown (so far) that PED association/admission is a death sentence.
Maybe that changes by the time his eligibility is up.
If all your basing your judgement on
is Wins, playoff wins, World Series wins/rings, and that’s it (you didn’t really clarify your standards), you’re going to get a lot of flak on this site.
What do you mean by “today’s standards”?
I would love to know what these standards are as well.
by MichaelGGBGrabow on Jan 11, 2012 1:59 PM EST up reply actions
I think there are too many in the HOF. I think the HOF should be All Time Greats. Mantle, Gehrig, Ruth, DiMaggio, Rivera, Jeter to name a few. Guys who you would tell your grandkids “I saw Jeter play”. I missed out on Mantle, but I can tell my kids that I saw Hank Aaron play back in the day. That type of player.
I agree with you CalinCT. The PED may hurt Pettitte.
I don’t mind flak guys. This is a great debate with no “right” answer.
So by your logic, why isn’t Orlando Hernandez a Hall of Famer? He had rings, too.
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He is in the hall of fame....
…..went in about 20 min ago. Bought his ticket, full price, just like I do when I visit.
really?
There’s no discount for former players?
by long time listener on Jan 11, 2012 1:44 PM EST up reply actions
Maybe he forgot....
…his old MLBPA card in his other wallet.
Seriously, though…I don’t think so.
1. Is Jack Morris worthy of being inducted into the HOF? NO
2. Is Andy Pettitte? NO
3. Is Mike Mussina? YES
4.Would you be upset if a Yankee wears #21 next season? YES
5. Should proven steroid usage be a factor in HOF voting? NO
6. Should accused, or suspected usage be a factor? NO
7. Do you consider Roger Clemens among the Yankees greats? YES
8. Alex Rodriguez? YES
9. Is the Hall of Fame too crowded already? YES & NO (too many bad players from earlier eras; should be a “cleaning”).
10. Would you rather the Yankees overpay in a trade or a signing? SIGNING
by PortlandYankee on Jan 11, 2012 10:55 AM EST reply actions
Shoot: Looking at Fangraphs, I change my answer about Clemens to NO
by PortlandYankee on Jan 11, 2012 11:04 AM EST up reply actions
1. No.
2. Borderline…largely because of his post-season numbers. I think he gets in, eventually, based on his success in the post…but it wouldn’t surprise me to see him get shut out because of the PED admission.
3. Yes, though it’s close. His career numbers say he deserves to get in, no matter what his marginalized win totals (ie: He played for good teams) shows.
4. Yes. I think you hold that number until you make a definitive decision on whether to retire it for Paulie. If the Yanks brass has made that decision….then while I’d be a bit upset (still too soon), I’d understand.
5. A factor? Yes. The end-all, be-all? No. It was part of the game. I have no problem with proven usage being mentioned in a players plaque, though.
6. NO!
7. No, honestly. He was a great pitcher, but much of what made him great occurred in Boston and Toronto. He was a good Yankee…but I don’t consider him worthy of the label “Great Yankee”".
8. ah, the lightening rod (if you’ll excuse the pun). I don’t know. And that’s the honest truth. If he’d played his entire career with the Yanks? Yes. If he manages to be a major contributor to another WS title? Yes. If he manages to break the HR record as a Yank? Yes. If he gives the Yanks 6 relatively productive (ie: not embarassing) year? Probably. Right now? It’s a cop out..but he hasn’t been in pin stripes long enough to earn that title. Yes, I know it’s been 8 years. Not QUITE yet (though he’s knocking on the door). So I guess the answer is: No, pending more data.
9. No. Is the Met? The Smithsonian? The Guggenheim? The Louvre? It’s a museum. There’s always room for new exhibits.
10. Signing. I’d rather pay too much cash (which devalues over time) than too much talent.
My thoughts
1. Is Jack Morris worthy of being inducted into the HOF?
No
2. Is Andy Pettitte? (Note: real HOF, not Yankees HOF)
No
3. Is Mike Mussina?
Yes
4.Would you be upset if a Yankee wears #21 next season?
No. I don’t really get the whole “number” obsession. I understand honoring the greats/legends of the team, but, really, unless it’s a true icon (where the name and number are universally synonymous for the team’s fans), it’s not necessary. I couldn’t tell you anyone’s number except Mariano, Jeter, Billy Martin, Mantle, Gehrig, Mattingly, and Ruth. And it’s funny that #8 is retired twice (for Bill Dickey and Yogi Berra); if a number can be retired twice, how important is retiring a number, really?
5. Should proven steroid usage be a factor in HOF voting?
It depends on how “proven” is defined. If you get caught under the actual testing (from 2004 forward), yes. So, sorry Ryan Braun, you’ll never be a Hall of Famer (pending the outcome of his hearing). As I heard on the radio, under the current system where testing is done, if you get caught, “shame on you!” and kiss your hopes for the Hall of Fame good-bye.
If you admitted or it came out from the 2003 survey (which was supposed to be anonymous, confidential, and the records destroyed for privacy issues), then no.
If you were forced to admit it because of the Mitchell Report, no.
I say no to these because, for the timeframe in which they were using or admitted to using, there was no enforcement of the rules, no testing, no penalty, and no one cared. Not even these self-righteous reporters who never deigned to look deeper into the numbers and find out how people were all-of-the-sudden putting up crazy power numbers and recovering so much quicker.
There are very few things I hate, but on that list is Hypocrisy.
6. Should accused, or suspected usage be a factor?
No. Not only is it un-American (innocent until proven guilty), there will never, ever be a way to prove or disprove whether anyone prior to 2004 used PEDs. There’s no evidence, there can be no judgement or verdict.
7. Do you consider Roger Clemens among the Yankees greats?
No. Great pitcher, Hall of Famer, just didn’t play enough for the Yankees for me to consider him a “Yankee Great”
8. Alex Rodriguez?
Yes. As others have said, he’ll have played for the Yankees for most of his career by the time he’s done (by most, I mean more than 50%), at 14 years (2004 to 2017).
9. Is the Hall of Fame too crowded already?
No. As others have said, it’s a museum, which highlights all of baseball history. I think it should accurately reflect ALL of baseball’s greats, and not exclude the players that the writers want to forget about (even though they were the best of their era).
10. Would you rather the Yankees overpay in a trade or a signing?
I’d prefer they overpay in signing, because I like seeing young guys coming up through the system. I liked watching Jeter become the captain, as well as Pettitte, Posada, Mariano, Cano and others come into their own as Yankees. I’d love to see Montero become this generation’s Cabrera or Manny Ramirez (in talent, not attitude or off-field problems).
That being said, I understand the laws of probability when it comes to prospects, so I would keep players like Montero, but be willing to trade others if the opportunity is right.
most people would ask you the reverse question
It seems like virtually all of Mussina’s numbers are better – more wins, lower ERA, more strikeouts, fewer walks, better K/9, better BB/9, better K/BB, better WHIP. And, with the exception of wins, his raw post-season numbers are better too. Then you get into more advance stats like WAR, where Mussina has a huge advantage. It’s not really a knock on Pettitte, but Mussina had the much better career.
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by long time listener on Jan 11, 2012 3:53 PM EST up reply actions
Mike Mussina was better than Andy Pettitte in literally every aspect of pitching. Even if you humor the notion of pitching wins measuring more than nothing, Mussina had:
More wins
A higher winning percentage
A lower ERA
A lower FIP
A lower WHIP
More Wins Above Replacement (85.6 vs. 67.0)
More Strikeouts
Fewer Walks
Mussina even had a lower postseason ERA (3.42 vs. 3.83). The only advantages that Pettitte has over Mussina are playoff wins, which especially in light of Mussina’s lower ERA, I can easily discount, and championship rings, which in a team sport, I can also discount. Even if you wouldn’t discount them, I would contend that they’re still a long ways away from making up for Mussina being a more effective pitcher in every aspect.
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I think
over the course of a career wins are still a good barometer. The fluctuations that happen season to season should in theory average out over the course of a career. Cherry picking seasons, like saying Pettitte has more 20 win seasons, still is not a good way to compare…however overall wins are not the worst.
This is often the case if the two players being compared play for similarly proficient offensive teams for a similar amount of time. If the Seattle Mariners resign Felix Hernandez for another eight years and do not upgrade their offense, comparing his win totals to CC Sabathia’s will never be a fair comparison.
However, given that the two players spend a roughly equal amount of time on roughly similar teams, a win total can give you a fairly decent estimate of the ability to pitch well and deep into games. It is still not a particularly great barometer and there are plenty that are better, but if you are going to employ pitcher wins, this is the best way to do so.
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These other guys answered for me
but also, I personally don’t count post-season appearances/wins/performance as much as overall career performance. If player A gets to the playoffs 15 times and player B gets to the playoffs 6 times, the difference of the number of games played is so big that they can’t reasonably be compared.
For example: Andy Pettitte has 42 games started in the playoffs (that’s 30 post-season playoff series). Mussina has 21 games started (plus 2 relief appearances) in 16 post-season playoff series. I can’t penalize Mussina because he didn’t get to start 21 more games for his numbers to normalize (and I can’t reward Pettitte for being on teams that were so good, keyword TEAMs, that he was able to pitch in more games than most starting pitchers have in a given season).
Pettitte’s HGH admission (which, if you take him for his word, which I do, was only for a short period recovering from an injury) isn’t a factor for me.
Great points guys. How about this though……which one, in his prime, starts game 7 of the World Series for you? I’m not saying that this is the measure of who should or shouldn’t be in the HOF. Just a fun question.
Why?
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Mussina every single friggin time
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1. No. Not even close. He’s not really even a borderline case you can use intangibles to nudge him one way or the other – I can think of 30 pitchers I’d induct before Morris in about 30 seconds.
2. No, but more marginal – actually on the borderline. I’d say no, but I think there’s a
3. Yes. Guy’s 24th all-time in WAR and even with the errors and problems with it, it’s not far enough off to make him down to the level of even marginal – 3500 innings with an ERA+ over 120 are incredibly valuable and he played in front of some really weak defenses over the years.
4. No. I’m not terribly sentimental about stuff like that.
5. Yes, though I would only consider it a black mark after drug-testing began – Manny Ramirez, for instance, actually broke an actual rule of baseball. I probably wouldn’t penalize him too much — the help of PEDs are overrated — but it’s a legitimate black mark.
6. No.
7. No. One of the greatest pitchers ever, but not a Yankee long enough. Maybe if it had been the team he played with the most, but he has the bulk of his career value in Boston and even though there was some acrimony between him and the team, I still think of him in a Red Sox uniform.
8. Yes. He’s had a longer stretch than Clemens.
9. No. Each generation has new players that need to be honored, for the award to be capable of being an honor. It’s also very important to the HoF’s bottom line, which is what keeps the museum going.
10. Depends. Yeah, it’s a copout, but it’s a such a general question.
1. No.
2. No.
3. It’s close but no.
4. No.
5. Yes.
6. No.
7. No.
8.Yes.
9. No.
10. It depends on who were signing or trading for.
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