New York Yankees News: Andy Carey, Cain, Hamels & Low-Cost Options
by Travis G on Jan 10, 2012 6:00 AM EST
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PrintAndy Carey, third baseman for the 1950s dynasty Yankees, died at 80. His daughter said he died on Dec. 15th of Lewy body dementia. He hit .260/.327/.396 in 938 games from 1952-'62.
- Should Jorge Posada's no. 20 be retired? The Daily News' Mark Feinsand says yes. Have your say in the poll below.
- Are the Yankees saving their money to make a splash in the future? Tyler Kepner speculates that Matt Cain and/or Cole Hamels, free agents after this season, could be the club's top priorities next winter. If so, it's not smart. How many times have we thought an impending free agent was going to be available only to re-sign with his club, or when a stud did hit free agency, did he even choose the Yankees? Nothing's a sure thing, especially when it's a year off and Hal Steinbrenner has shown a fiscal frugality not seen in recent memory.
- Justin Sablich named some low-cost options the thrifty Yankees might want to look into: Rich Harden, Chris Young, Livan Hernandez, Bartolo Colon, Brandon Webb, Jeff Francis. For a single cheap year, I'd take a chance on any of them.
- Curtis Granderson invested in a pizza business in his hometown of Chicago, a town known for pizza almost as much as New York (by the way, possibly the best pizza I've ever had was in the Chicago area).
- Cuban defector OF Yoenis Cespedes is reportedly days from becoming a Dominican resident and then being granted MLB free agency. The report says he could be seeking an eight-year deal. Yowza.
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I would take a shot at Brandon Webb.
If it works out, we will have one of the best sinkerballers in the league as our no# 5 pitcher.
I think that Posada’s number should…….
I can’t vote on this poll, since I live in Puerto Rico, I have a bias and can’t post an argument with that mentality.
As for Pizza….
I would love to try the pizzas at Pizzeria Bianco in Arizona, many people have told me its the best pizza in the United States.
BSME
Puerto Ricans cannot elect senators or representatives, but they can vote in online polls, biased or not.
by designatedquitter on Jan 10, 2012 10:04 AM EST up reply actions
Webb hasn't pitched in three full years
What makes you think he’ll be any good?
by Scooby Snacks on Jan 10, 2012 10:18 AM EST up reply actions
I wonder if Keppner realizes there was no one to spend money on this offseason
Last night, a comedian died in New York. Somebody knows why. Somebody knows
Never said they should have signed him.
by MichaelGGBGrabow on Jan 10, 2012 1:33 PM EST up reply actions
what about em?
Last night, a comedian died in New York. Somebody knows why. Somebody knows
by Rorschach44 on Jan 10, 2012 11:05 AM EST up reply actions
You said there was no one to spend money on…
Don’t think the Yankees should have, but he was available.
by MichaelGGBGrabow on Jan 10, 2012 1:33 PM EST up reply actions
Wilson was included in the 'no one'.
Last night, a comedian died in New York. Somebody knows why. Somebody knows
Webb is the only one of those pitchers I'd have any interest in
Because he’s the only one with any kind of ceiling. I don’t want to see an ancient blob like Colon or Hernandez take a spot away from someone who might have a future. Jeff Francis stinks. Harden and Young can’t be relied on at all.
No on Posada’s number being retired. This argument becomes tough sometimes because the Yankees have overdone it with the retired numbers before. But outside of 2003 and 2007, Posada was someone that carried the team. He shouldn’t get extra credit for being a catcher since he was…you know, bad at it.
Chicago pizza sucks.
by Let's Talk About Tex Baby on Jan 10, 2012 8:39 AM EST reply actions
So because you think they’ve “overdone it” with some retired numbers, other deserving players shouldn’t have theirs retired?
Yeah, you’re right…scrap plans on 2 and 42 as well, there are already too many out there.
by MichaelGGBGrabow on Jan 10, 2012 10:08 AM EST up reply actions
Not the intended point...
What I meant was that the Yankees have retired some numbers that shouldn’t be retired, but I don’t think that means everyone who was a better Yankee than Roger Maris should have their number retired because then it’s going to get out of hand (more out of hand). So while Posada stacks up favorably against Maris, Reggie Jackson and Elston Howard (in terms of what each player did as a Yankee) I don’t think that necessarily means retire his number.
In terms of the 90’s/2000’s Yankees, I vote yes on 2, 42 and 51, no on 6, 20, 21 and 46.
by Let's Talk About Tex Baby on Jan 10, 2012 2:12 PM EST up reply actions
When did a big name pitcher become free and choose the yankees?
Err… 2008 the milwaukee brewers had a former cy young winner and a top 5 cy young finalist in their rotation that they let walk via free agency. What was his name, again?
I mean, save for cliff lee, name a single stud FA SP that has hit free agency that didn’t choose the yanks that you actually would have wanted on the team?
I didn't say
it never happens. But there was a lot of excitement among Yankee fans about guys like Matt Kemp, Cliff Lee, Joe Mauer, etc. (just off the top of my head), who ended up signing with other clubs.
Who i'd want to sign
Bartolo Colon (dirt cheap)
Brandon Webb (high upside/low floor and cheap)
Rich Harden (high upside)
Ha
Never put that together…that’s funny.
by steelerwheeler on Jan 10, 2012 3:15 PM EST up reply actions
Cespedes must be trolling...
8 years before even taking a major league at bat! Is this some communist plot?
if the Yankees are waiting on Cain or Hamels
It’s a risk, but a calculated risk. The odds that both of them will re-sign seem slim. Frankly, the odds that either of them re-sign seems slim. The Giants need to save their money for Lincecum, and the Phillies have so much tied up in the rest of their rotation and Howard (secretly the worst contract in baseball) that they can’t afford to throw money at Hamels. Maybe one team opens the checkbook despite those concerns, but it seems unlikely that both of them will.
by long time listener on Jan 10, 2012 9:32 AM EST reply actions
83 people and counting don't think that The Yankees should retire Jorge's number?
Not everyone is Joe Dimaggio guys, get over it.
Insane.
by MichaelGGBGrabow on Jan 10, 2012 10:03 AM EST reply actions
only the Joe Dimaggios should get their number retired.
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by Rorschach44 on Jan 10, 2012 11:06 AM EST up reply actions
I’m surprised to this any confidence in Webb. 2008 was a long longgg time ago.
by MichaelGGBGrabow on Jan 10, 2012 10:10 AM EST reply actions
the benefit to Webb is that he would be VERY cheap
for what we could end up getting. He would also have no leverage in negotiating because he has nothing to show anyone. Honestly, I think he’s done. Maybe he could come back as something eventually, but he’s never going to be close to getting back to who he was. I only made him higher on my list than Rich Harden because Harden is injury prone, would probably get an MLB deal and would be much more expensive.
The main argument for Posada is his longevity (17 seasons).
In the Yankee all- time catching hierarchy, he’s probably #4, perhaps #5. Berra, Dickey, Munson, then Posada, although an argument can be made for Elston Howard.
The problem here is that the Yankees (to borrow a phrase) have generated more history than they can consume on their own. Put Posada’s career on 2/3 of the other teams all time list, and he’s a shoo -in for number retirement, but on the Yankees, he’s up against too much history.
As to all the other available cheap arms, forget it. The Yankees are either going all- in on rookies, or saving up for for Hamels/ Cain. Don’t waste any more valuable electrons on this topic.
by designatedquitter on Jan 10, 2012 10:12 AM EST reply actions
Just a matter of time...
Before the Yanks retire a letter. Now batting-ing-ing…Derek Jeter the Third-ird-ird…Letter A-A-a-a…
by steelerwheeler on Jan 10, 2012 3:25 PM EST up reply actions
Loves pizza and doesn't make foolish restaurant choices like his teammates...two more reasons I like Curtis.
His teammates, for the most part, prefer chain restaurants such as The Cheesecake Factory or The Capital Grille, while he opts for more foodie-friendly fare.
by MichaelGGBGrabow on Jan 10, 2012 10:15 AM EST reply actions
Carey played a key role in one of baseball’s landmark games. He twice helped preserve the only perfect World Series game, pitched by Don Larsen against the Dodgers on Oct. 8, 1956. In the second inning, the Dodgers’ Jackie Robinson smacked a shot between third and short that Carey knocked down, allowing Yankees shortstop Gil McDougald to pick up the ball and nip Robinson at first. In the eighth, he robbed Gil Hodges by snaring a low line drive that seemed headed for left field.
http://www.nytimes.com/2012/01/08/sports/baseball/andy-carey-third-baseman-for-1950s-yankees-dies-at-80.html?_r=2
by MichaelGGBGrabow on Jan 10, 2012 10:21 AM EST reply actions
Personally, I like both the NY-style and the Chicago style
I really don’t know which I would give the edge to. I grew up on New York-style, so it reminds me a lot of home. On the other hand, Chicago-style is much more filling than New York and has better dough (IMO). I just can’t stand St. Louis-style (a round cracker cut in squares).
Chicago makes a good pie
its just tough to call it pizza. Its more like lasagna, especially if they’re gonna put all those god damn toppings in it. Soon as you put toppings on it its not really a pizza.
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by Rorschach44 on Jan 10, 2012 11:08 AM EST up reply actions
You are a "cheese-only" purist?
Personally my favorite pizza is pepperoni.
Though I see your point about needing to eat a pizza with a fork and knife!
Only topping I will ever use is meatball, but I rarely get other than plain
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by Brandon C. on Jan 10, 2012 1:10 PM EST via iPhone app up reply actions
I like toppings, I get fried eggplant a lot, and the pizza place here has some great sausage
GREAT SAUSAGE.
But I never, ever ever ever, get anything other then 1/2 a pie with the toppings on it. Cuz you always got to have some plain cheese.
And yes, if a pie is for real, its got the fresh mozz or even rarer yet, fresh buffalo mozzarella that’s really runny and you have to eat it with a knife and fork. I’m getting a raging boner just thinking about it.
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For the most part, I am a cheese only purist
But I do get pepperoni slices as well. Personally I am not a fan at all of Chicago Style Pizza, or really many other styles of pizza other than NY style. I just feel that NY style is pretty much perfect in it’s execution. In fact, I think I’m gonna run out and get a slice right now!
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by I'mGivingYouARaise on Jan 10, 2012 3:39 PM EST up reply actions
Chicago stuffed is great
but man, what a gut bomb. There’s a place in SF that makes a one-crust Chicago style (if that makes any sense) that’s good and a little less of a rock in your belly.
There’s a lot of pizza to like in NY, but there’s also an awful lot of terrible storefront junk under heat lamps.
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by natteringnabob on Jan 10, 2012 12:32 PM EST up reply actions
I just like pizza
I don’t care if it has any style or not.
Romine!
by david d on Jan 10, 2012 10:49 AM EST reply actions 1 recs
Wha?
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Haha, obviously my deep seated hatred for anyone crazy enough to dislike pizza made me misread that for “I just don’t like pizza”
by MichaelGGBGrabow on Jan 10, 2012 4:02 PM EST up reply actions
Yanks are going to be the first team to have players with 3 digit numbers
if they keep retiring numbers/having incredible talent
The Yankees have already retired numbers 1, 3, 4, 5, 7, 8, 9, 10, 15, and 16.
Derek Jeter’s #2 and Joe Torre’s #6 will be added to that list for sure, as will Posada’s #17 at some point. You might as well throw A-Rod’s #13 into the mix as well, which leaves them 6 of the top 20 numbers to play with.
Jesus Montero has to be a full-time catcher, or the Yankees have to trade him. One or the other. Based on the age and contracts of the other players on this team, that's the only place he fits long-term on the Yankees roster.
Posada is #20
I hear what you’re saying about retired-number inflation, but that ship has sailed. We might as well retire the numbers of guys who deserve it without regard to the fact that they went overboard earlier.
by long time listener on Jan 10, 2012 12:02 PM EST up reply actions
Exactly
And not only is it “might as well”, but why snub guys who deserve it because of something they had nothing to do with?
by MichaelGGBGrabow on Jan 10, 2012 1:40 PM EST up reply actions
For some reason, and I don’t think this is right, I wouldn’t be surprised if A Rod never gets his number retired
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by Brandon C. on Jan 10, 2012 12:21 PM EST via iPhone app up reply actions
Wish we could
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by Brandon C. on Jan 10, 2012 1:10 PM EST via iPhone app up reply actions
I was thinking about this
I understand the history behind it but pretty soon the numbers will look like an NFL team.
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by natteringnabob on Jan 10, 2012 12:33 PM EST up reply actions
They should honor the players
with their numbers on the facade and with the plaques, but only a select few should actually be retired. I’d say 2, 3, 4, 5, 7 and 42 (cuz nobody is wearing it on any team anyway) should never be worn again. Re-issue the rest of ’em.
Romine!
Only Jeter and Mo are viable for having their jerseys retired in my opinion. If all the Jorges and Bernies of the franchise had their jerseys retired, we’ll have to start getting into the triple digits. I can see it now…
NOW BATTING… FOR THE YANKEES… NUMBER 2 SQUARED… DEREK JETER JR… NUMBER 2… SQUARED…
When rookies are given #81 in spring training they will keep it when they make the team, since it will be the lowest number left.
Maybe we can retire Francisco Cervelli’s number, since he hit a couple fo home runs.
by designatedquitter on Jan 10, 2012 3:12 PM EST reply actions
Jorge Posada
Didn’t do anything worthwhile
journeyman
bum
Yankees should have traded him in 1998 for a deep dish pizza.
by MichaelGGBGrabow on Jan 10, 2012 3:52 PM EST reply actions
baseball haikus... sounds like a plan
jorge posada
- played with fire
only to get burned…
by sing_or_die_1818 on Jan 10, 2012 9:37 PM EST reply actions
damn! i typed "#20"--and it spit out "1." should have read
jorge posada
number 20 played with fire
only to get burned…
by sing_or_die_1818 on Jan 10, 2012 9:38 PM EST reply actions
sorry to "reply fail"...
but my computer is not having any of that “reply” nonsense just now…
anyway, want to thank you guys for making me hungry and sad. here i am in japan, HOW far from sal & carmine’s on broadway (around 102nd)? damn you, culinary memory!!!
by sing_or_die_1818 on Jan 10, 2012 9:40 PM EST reply actions
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