Tigers vs. Yankees - Offensive Comparison
After the most insane night of baseball I've ever witnessed in my young life, the field is finally set in stone for this Friday's American League Divisional Series. The Detroit Tigers will be traveling to the daunting confines of Yankee Stadium to take on none other than the New York Yankees.
Let's quickly analyze the offenses of both teams, shall we?
New York Yankees
The Yankees finished the 2011 regular season with 867 runs scored, good for second in all of baseball (and first amongst playoff teams). Overall, not a terrible number considering the average runs scored for an American League team this season was 723.
I can't say that I'm surprised their runs scored hovered around the same amount as 2010 and remained 48 runs lower than 2009. Pitching, for whatever reason you care to speculate, has made an incredible resurgence and the number of runs scored in all of baseball has been dramatically declining since 2006.
It doesn't take a genius or complex statistics to understand that the Yankees have, arguably, the most formidable offense in the major leagues. What really differentiates them from the vast majority of teams around baseball is that they have a patient, circular lineup that will really wear down a pitcher. They can uncover and exploit a pitcher's weakness in the blink of an eye and make opposing players pay for the tiniest of mistakes.
New York finished the season first in homers with 222 (12 more than Texas in second), finished second behind Boston with an on-base percentage of .343, and third behind Boston and Texas in slugging percentage of .444. Keys to a successful offense often come down to a team's ability to get on base and get the extra-base hits that will drive those runners in. The Yankees have done a substantial job of doing that and it reflects in the stats.
Personally, I'm excited that the Yankees will have their entire starting lineup together for the playoffs. And it's a scary one.
What I project it to be is the following...
Against righties - Jeter, Granderson, Cano, Rodriguez, Teixeira, Swisher, Montero, Martin, Gardner.
Against lefties - Jeter, Granderson, Teixeira, Rodriguez, Cano, Swisher, Montero, Martin, Gardner.
Honestly, Montero and Martin are interchangeable at the bottom of the lineup. Andruw Jones, Eric Chavez and Jorge Posada will be used as options off the bench. Perhaps Chris Dickerson or Greg Golson will be held around for a pinch-running option in late game situations? We'll see once the official playoff rosters are released soon.
Over Derek Jeter's last 68 games, his triple slash is an impressive .336/.389/.454. He's done an efficient job of silencing his critics. Curtis Granderson has been everything New York could have possibly asked for and so much more. He's remained consistent throughout the entire season, smashing a career-high 41 homers and scoring an unprecedented 136 runs. Mark Teixeira has displayed his raw power against lefties all season and his ongoing struggles against righties. Whether in the three or five hole, he's got the potential to change a game with one swing of the bat, having hit 39 homers in the regular season. Oh yeah, Robinson Cano has been crushing the ball with authority as well.
My biggest concern for the Yankees is the health of Alex Rodriguez. He hasn't been nearly the same caliber of player since his most recent operation and he'll be a critical asset to New York's bid for a 28th championship. While I don't expect him to step up and hit remarkable game-tying homers that swing momentum squarely in favor of the Yanks like he did in 2009, he'll need to be effective if he's in the clean-up spot.
Detroit Tigers
The Tigers ran away with the American League Central thanks in large part to their pitching (ahem, Justin Verlander is really good at baseball...). However, their offense isn't too shabby, either.
Detroit scored 787 runs runs this season, which was enough for fourth in all of baseball, yet a distant 90 runs behind the Yankees. They also put together a combined .340 on-base percentage (fourth in MLB) and a slugging percentage of .434 (also fourth in baseball). Despite the fact that the Tigers didn't put up nearly the same amount of runs as New York, they have a more than respectable offense that is above-average when compared to the rest of the American League.
Detroit's lineup could look something similar to the following: Jackson CF, Ordonez RF, Young LF, Cabrera 1B, Martinez DH, Avila C, Peralta SS, Santiago 2B, Inge 3B.
This lineup is obviously subject to change, as Don Kelly and Wilson Betemit could easily be substituted into this equation (considering Inge seems lost at the plate).
Leading the charge for the Tigers is perennial MVP candidate Miguel Cabrera. His wOBA of .436 and wRC+ of 177 are second best in baseball behind Jose Bautista and for those that love traditional statistics, Cabrera is one of four players this season to record 30+ homers, 100+ runs batted in and 100+ runs scored (Bautista, Granderson, Ellsbury). His OPS after 160 games is 1.032. Quite frankly, he's one of the most terrifying hitters in the game today. If New York wants to avoid some grey hairs, they need to keep Cabrera in the yard.
Other hitters to keep an eye on include catcher Alex Avila, designated hitter Victor Martinez, and shortstop Jhonny Peralta. All three had wRC+ above 100 (141, 131, 120, respectively). These hitters can provide Detroit with some pop in their lineup while Avila and Martinez have great OBPs of .389 and .380, although they don't provide much of a threat on the bases.
Advantage: New York Yankees
I can't help but give New York the edge in offense. If their lineup is clicking, they're going to be extremely difficult to stop.
Check back later for an analysis of pitching.
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Posada starting at DH? Phew, I was worried they’d use someone capable of catching up to Verlander’s and Scherzer’s heat.
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by WhatwouldJeterdo on Sep 29, 2011 2:37 PM EDT reply actions
I threw my tv out the window
When I read that Posada will be the starting DH for the entire ALDS. WTF!!
All hype no bite teams of 2010-2011:
2010 Miami Heat-Cry me a River like a Bosh.
2011 Boston Red Sox-45 ESPN experts picked the wrong AL East Champion.
2011 Philadelphia Eagles-Its not so sunny in Philadelphia anymore.
by Livestrong77nyy on Sep 29, 2011 2:43 PM EDT up reply actions
I'm sorry, but this is ridiculous.
It’s one thing to keep him on the postseason roster for respect, good feelings, and all of that. It’s another to HAVE HIM START. I can’t even…
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by WhatwouldJeterdo on Sep 29, 2011 2:45 PM EDT up reply actions
Ruined my day
All hype no bite teams of 2010-2011:
2010 Miami Heat-Cry me a River like a Bosh.
2011 Boston Red Sox-45 ESPN experts picked the wrong AL East Champion.
2011 Philadelphia Eagles-Its not so sunny in Philadelphia anymore.
by Livestrong77nyy on Sep 29, 2011 2:45 PM EDT up reply actions
Really?
I’m usually really giddy and excited the day before the playoffs start (and it’s true in this case as well). The news that Jesus Montero won’t be DHing won’t ruin this wonderful day. Oh my god, the Red Sox fans at my work…
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Lefty-righty
Don’t you watch the way this team operates? I’m surprised you’re surprised by this lol.
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I thought that maybe the interest of winning would overtake it just this once.
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by WhatwouldJeterdo on Sep 29, 2011 2:47 PM EDT up reply actions
His wRC actually isn't that bad vs. right handed pitching
I agree that Montero should start, but I just actually checked his numbers vs. righties and while they aren’t great they certainly aren’t awful.
This isn’t the worst thing that could happen.
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Game 1, Friday: Tigers (Verlander, 24-5) at Yankees (Sabathia, 19-8), 8:37 p.m.
Game 2, Saturday: Tigers (Fister, 11-13) at Yankees (Nova, 16-4), 8:37 p.m.
Game 3, Monday: Yankees (Garcia, 12-8) at Tigers, 8:37 p.m.
Yes.
"Everything looks nicer when you win. The girls are prettier, the cigars taste better. The trees are greener."—Billy Martin
I think Scherzer starts game 3
All hype no bite teams of 2010-2011:
2010 Miami Heat-Cry me a River like a Bosh.
2011 Boston Red Sox-45 ESPN experts picked the wrong AL East Champion.
2011 Philadelphia Eagles-Its not so sunny in Philadelphia anymore.
by Livestrong77nyy on Sep 29, 2011 2:47 PM EDT up reply actions
Pos by Pos
C: Tigers
1B: Tigers
2B: Yankees
SS: Yankees
3B: Yankees
LF: Yankees
CF: Yankees
RF: Yankees
DH: Tigers
SP: Even
RP: Yankees
C: Yankees
Adv: Yankees
SS: Yankees
Jhonny Peralta disagrees
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by Jedi Master A-Rod on Sep 29, 2011 2:52 PM EDT up reply actions
Second half Derek Jeter disagrees with Johnny Peralta.
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Why have a full season when you can have half a season, amirite?
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by Jedi Master A-Rod on Sep 29, 2011 2:57 PM EDT up reply actions
According to what, though?
I’m not saying you’re wrong or right, but the whole arbitrary this person > this person without explanation doesn’t get you very far here.
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by WhatwouldJeterdo on Sep 29, 2011 3:03 PM EDT up reply actions
Not this year
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by Jedi Master A-Rod on Sep 29, 2011 3:03 PM EDT up reply actions
For the half he is
And that half is more of the hitter he is now than the full season shows.
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And yet…Peralta is still better
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by Jedi Master A-Rod on Sep 29, 2011 3:17 PM EDT up reply actions
Not for the second half
Believe what you want. I’d take Jeter.
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He doesn't need an explanation
Peralta had a better full season. More power and better defense with a similar average and OBP.
In the second half, Jeter’s average and OBP both skyrocketed and he had a lot more extra base hits, which is why I personally say he’s had a better second half.
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Consistently a better hitter over the whole season, more power, better defense.
Good enough?
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by Jedi Master A-Rod on Sep 29, 2011 4:43 PM EDT up reply actions
Why does it matter now?
Dont all the stats get reset for the playoffs?
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by YankeesJets on Sep 29, 2011 10:38 PM EDT up reply actions
Tigers vs. Yankees – Offensive Comparison
Regular season numbers are kind of the only thing to go on…
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by Jedi Master A-Rod on Sep 29, 2011 11:09 PM EDT up reply actions
Jeter got on base at a higher clip this year
And an even higher clip during his second half.
Let us all congratulate the Boston Red Sox for becoming the first World Champions in the history of sports to NOT make the postseason! Thats not easy to do!
the Yankees are deliberately trying to lose the DH spot
and C is most definitely favoring the Tigers, I dunno where you got that one from.
Last night, a comedian died in New York. Somebody knows why. Somebody knows
I think they've already said
That Cano bats fourth, A-Rod bats fifth vs. lefties.
One thing I disagree with about your lineups is the absense of Andruw Jones in the lefty one. The dude has been hitting the living shit out of the ball in the second half, especially off lefties. I don’t know how they’ll do it, but against left handed pitchers I want him in the lineup.
Welcome to the Majors, Jesus!
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Jones should without a doubt start against a lefty.
All hype no bite teams of 2010-2011:
2010 Miami Heat-Cry me a River like a Bosh.
2011 Boston Red Sox-45 ESPN experts picked the wrong AL East Champion.
2011 Philadelphia Eagles-Its not so sunny in Philadelphia anymore.
by Livestrong77nyy on Sep 29, 2011 2:51 PM EDT up reply actions
I didn’t put much thought into the lineups. You’re right though.
"Everything looks nicer when you win. The girls are prettier, the cigars taste better. The trees are greener."—Billy Martin
by Chris McKeown on Sep 29, 2011 3:10 PM EDT up reply actions
Offensively, it's effectively even
NYY: OBP/SLG 343/444; WRC 113
DET: 340/434, WRC 109
Also, Cabrera & Martinez have good career numbers against CC.
Now, once you start to look position by position & include defense (a big Yankee strength this year, esp. in the OF) & baserunning, you can argue that the Yankees have a slight edge.
C: Avila vs. Martin TIGERS
1B: Cabrera vs. Tex TIGERS
2B: Santiago vs. Cano YANKEES
3B: Inge vs. A-Rod YANKEES
SS: Peralta (great seasons offensively & defensively) vs. Jeter TIGERS
LF: Young vs. Gardner/Jones. YANKEES
CF: Jackson vs. Granderson. An underrated subplot. YANKEES
RF: Ordonez/Boesch vs. Swisher YANKEES
DH: Posada (WRC 118 vs. RHP)/Montero vs. Martinez (131 overall). TIGERS
Overall: 5-4
Position WAR: 36 (Yankees) vs. 28.9 (Tigers)
aside
isn’t montero only 20? how is he holding and probably drinking that champagne bottle? i don’t care that it is MLB, he’s technically not old enough to drink
mlb says
born 11/28/89?
am i missing something?
Speaking on behalf of all 89 babies, we are all 22 or about to be 22.
Jesus is perfectly within his rights to drink till his little heart is content.
Jesus Montero fangirl
by WhatwouldJeterdo on Sep 29, 2011 10:57 PM EDT up reply actions
Yes, a calculator.
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Cricket blog?
by MattF15 on Sep 29, 2011 11:48 PM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
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Jesus Montero fangirl
by WhatwouldJeterdo on Sep 30, 2011 2:03 AM EDT up reply actions
I love this.
"Everything looks nicer when you win. The girls are prettier, the cigars taste better. The trees are greener."—Billy Martin
by Chris McKeown on Sep 30, 2011 1:39 PM EDT up reply actions
He’s 21
"Everything looks nicer when you win. The girls are prettier, the cigars taste better. The trees are greener."—Billy Martin
by Chris McKeown on Sep 29, 2011 3:20 PM EDT up reply actions
you're allowed to hold a bottle of alcohol at 20
by long time listener on Sep 29, 2011 4:13 PM EDT up reply actions
You're allowed to spray in at people at 19
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