First Attempt at my Playoff Roster
The Yankees are just a couple of wins away from clinching a spot in the playoffs, and even clinching the division win. Take that pre-season haters!
The hot topic in Yankees universe right now is the playoff roster. Should the Yankees carry a backup catcher? Should Greg Golson/Chris Dickerson make the team? I will answer those questions, and provide you with my personal preferred playoff roster, here.
25 players (14 hitters, 11 pitchers)
Catcher- Russell Martin
Infield- Mark Teixeira, Robinson Cano, Alex Rodriguez, Eric Chavez, Derek Jeter, Ramiro Pena
Outfield- Brett Gardner, Curtis Granderson, Nick Swisher, Greg Golson, Andruw Jones
DH- Jesus Montero, Jorge Posada (because there is no chance he doesn't make the roster)
Starting Pitchers- CC Sabathia, Ivan Nova, Bartolo Colon, Freddy Garcia
Relief Pitchers- Hector Noesi/A.J. Burnett, Phil Hughes, Boone Logan, Mariano Rivera, David Robertson, Rafael Soriano, Cory Wade
Explanations after the jump.
I differ from many in that I choose Ramiro Pena over Eduardo Nunez for the last utility spot on the roster. Nunez has been fantastic this season, but his defense leaves a lot to be desired. Pena hasn't been perfect either, but in the playoffs, where teams especially capitalize on mistakes, it's best to go with the less risky choice. Pena can play the same positions, and can also run almost as fast.I originally left Greg Golson off my playoff roster, but in the end, speed is a very useful tool. For example, if Jorge Posada doubles to lead off the bottom of the 9th of a tie game, instead of having to use Pena/Chavez, the Yankees can use Golson. If he doesn't score, Montero/Jones can replace him in the lineup.
Phil Hughes narrowly escaped being grouped in with the Noesi/Burnett pair, due to his previous relief success. Burnett and Noesi is an extremely difficult decision. Do you choose the struggling veteran, or the impressive rookie?
Luis Ayala has had a fine season, but I trust the other pitchers over him. The screaming line drives he is giving up aren't a good sign for Ayala's future.
Rather than explaining why I prefer no backup catcher, here is a great explanation.
What do you think?
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Disagree only with your choice of Pena over Nunez, as I prefer a threat in the lineup over an automatic out. Plus, hasn’t Nunez improved his fielding as the season has progressed?
Would prefer Noesi over Burnett, as I think many fans would agree; however, Burnett will get the nod due to financial and future considerations.
agreed with tmccamis09
as far as the Nunez situation. Pena isn’t very sound defensively by any stretch and as far as who’s the better hitter, it’s not even close that it’s definately Nunez. I also have an issue with leaving Ayala off the roster. for a guy whose ERA is under 2 in as many games as he’s been in, how does he NOT make the roster?
“Luis Ayala has had a fine season, but I trust the other pitchers over him. The screaming line drives he is giving up aren’t a good sign for Ayala’s future.”
That is why. Are we really going to ignore that? Not saying ERA is useless, just deceiving, especially with guys like Ayala & Logan, who I’m fairly sure let a lot of inherited runners score (which doesn’t affect THEIR ERA).
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by Andrew GM on Sep 21, 2011 10:06 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Why would Nunez bat in the playoffs? Yanks have Chavez.
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Against left-handed pitching OR there may be a pinch hitting situation where he could prove valuable.
Who would Nunez start over against left handed pitching, and if Nunez needs to pinch hit the Yankees are in an awful situation.
I don’t think a .307 OBP screams “I’m a great hitter to have off the bench!”
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Point taken
Realistically, the only way Pena/Nunez will see playoff playing time before W.S. is if they pinch run for A-rod and enter as a late game defensive replacement with the Yanks in the lead. Even then, Chavez would probably be moved to play 3rd.
Yep, and Pena is better than Nunez at defense, so it just makes a little bit more sense.
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About the only reason they would need tons of pinch-hitters is in the World Series
Although I suppose I would rather call on Nunez than Pena to pinch hit for CC in the top of the 9th with the bases loaded and the game tied. Actually, I take that back. I would rather let CC hit than watch either of the other 2!
if Montero is on the playoff roster
then Posada isn’t. the Yankees want to win, not keep people around for sentimental reasons
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by NJsandman on Sep 21, 2011 9:58 AM EDT via mobile reply actions
Can't really disagree with this roster
Nunez or Pena is a coin flip to me, I’d lean slightly towards Pena for defensive purposes. Montero can be the backup catcher and DH, same with Posada in an emergency situation.
The rotation has pretty much sorted itself out, no way does Burnett or Hughes belong in there unless an injury occurs and a three man rotation isn’t reasonable.
Your going to leave
Nunez off the roster in favor of Ramiro Pena?? I think you are just trying to outrage the locals with that mind boggling choice.
I’d love to hear why this is such a travesty. I’ll take the fast player that is better at defense over the slightly faster player that has really not been all that fantastic at the plate either, but has a sweet swing, any time.
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also
there needs to be a backup catcher and the Yankees aren’t comfortable with Montero catching. I think Romine might be the backup at this point because Cervelli might be out for a while with his concussion
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by NJsandman on Sep 21, 2011 10:01 AM EDT via mobile reply actions
Read the article I linked to. It perfectly describes why there is no need for one.
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not a bad article
but i don’t see the Yankees thinking like that. if something happens to Martin, i don’t see the Yankees being comfortable with Montero or Posada catching. they would need someone to catch in an emergency
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you don't think they would be comfortable with having a catcher catch in an emergency
The idea is that they most likely will not have to catch a single game in the postseason. However, there is always the possibility that something will knock Martin out of a game, in which case the Yankees can call on one of the other catchers to put on the pads for a few innings. They’ve already shown that they trust Posada enough to let him catch for most of a game when necessary. They’ve shown that they trust Montero to start at catcher (okay, just once). Why shouldn’t either of them be able to catch a few innings if necessary?
i don't think Posada will be on the roster
Montero might catch for only several innings but i don’t think he would be allowed to catch for an extended period. right now he’s looked at as a DH more than a catcher
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Even if there's a need for a backup catcher, they're not exactly out of options
I’m pretty sure Jorge wouldn’t fall apart if they told him to put on the pads again. I’m also certain that they would be willing to put Jesus behind the plate in an emergency.
I think you're wrong about four things
I think Dickerson will make it over Golson – Dickerson has gotten a couple of starts recently, and he keeps getting in as a defensive replacement. If they thought Golson was a better defender, they would be using him more, instead of hardly at all. (I’m not saying Golson is or isn’t better – I don’t know that we’ve seen enough to decide conclusively. I just think the team’s usage of Dickerson suggests they think he’s better.)
I also don’t think Pena makes it over Nunez, for similar reasons – Nunez is the guy they’ve trusted all year, so he’s more likely to make it to the post-season. Though there’s a chance they’ll agree Pena is better defensively, and since neither of them is likely to make a start and will be needed only as a defensive replacement, they’ll go with the glove.
I definitely think there’s no way they go without a backup catcher. They clearly don’t trust Montero behind the plate, and they’d be crazy on a cracker if they trust Posada, so I think Romine makes the roster if (as looks increasingly likely) Cervelli can’t play. Which leaves the question of which player out of Posada and Jesus makes the roster. I hope they are smart enough to take Jesus, but you should never underestimate how teams – even generally smart teams – overestimate a veteran presence, and overvalue loyalty. (Also, I’m not 100% sure that a team can swap a player mid-series, as the RAB article says. Didn’t someone get hurt in game 5 of the WS in 2009 and we couldn’t replace him? Wasn’t it Hairston? Maybe I’m misremembering, but I seem to believe you need the Commissioner’s permission, and permission usually isn’t forthcoming.)
Also, I don’t think both Burnett and Hughes makes the roster (unless Noesi doesn’t, which I think is unlikely). There simply isn’t a need for three long men. I’d bet they’ll come to their senses and drop AJ, but that depends on Hughes’s back.
by long time listener on Sep 21, 2011 10:18 AM EDT reply actions
I fixed the title, this isn’t a prediction, this is who I want on the roster.
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I think I agree with you about Golson
And probably Pena, though they’re both close calls. I don’t know why you’d WANT Jorge on the roster, but I agree there’s a good chance he’ll be there. I’m also not sure I agree on no backup catcher. I think Jesus can do the job, but if he’s DH’ing and Martin gets hurt early in the game, do you really want to have the pitcher batting a couple of times?
by long time listener on Sep 21, 2011 10:24 AM EDT up reply actions
I think the Yankees would throw Jorge out there again, which is dumb, but better than having the pitcher hit. If it’s sixth inning or later I’m fine with playing NL style ball.
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This actually came up last year during the ALCS
When Tex got hurt, there was a lot of discussion about what to do because if they put Tex on the DL, he wouldn’t be able to play in the WS. I’m pretty sure that they had Swisher play first for the rest of the series just so they could be sure to have Tex as soon as he was better.
so you have to DL a guy to make a change?
I still want a backup catcher, then. If Martin is hurt only for a day or two, that’s not enough to DH him, but it’s too much to go with a depleted catcher spot.
by long time listener on Sep 21, 2011 10:40 AM EDT up reply actions
If Martin's hurt for a day or 2, Montero starts at catcher
simple as that
I'd be OK with that
I’m not sure the Yankees are.
by long time listener on Sep 21, 2011 10:59 AM EDT up reply actions
roster
if you think pena is on the playoff roster,you are an idiot,this guyhas had a lost season is hitting under 100 and his fielding has been lousy.if he hdnt had surgery he wdnt be on the 40 man roster
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If you’re going to call someone an idiot, it helps to not have your post full of misspellings. Also, it helps if you address his actual arguments.
by long time listener on Sep 21, 2011 10:34 AM EDT up reply actions
also, punctuation and capitalization are important
by long time listener on Sep 21, 2011 10:34 AM EDT up reply actions
breaking news
Noesi will start game 1, with a limit of about 50-60 pitches.
by long time listener on Sep 21, 2011 11:12 AM EDT reply actions
I'll go with
Romine making the roster as backup, Montero DH. I don’t think Posada makes the cut imo.
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by GMan83201 on Sep 21, 2011 11:59 AM EDT reply actions 1 recs
I wouldn't bet on Freddy Garcia making the roster. He's been awful lately.
Colon looks like a better bet. Burnett or Hughes instead of Garcia, preferably Hughes. I can’t imagine taking Pena over Nunez, or Golson over Dickerson. Pena has had some shaky defensive moments this year, can’t really hit, and does not represent more speed than Nunez, who is 3rd on the team in steals. If Golson were going t make the roster, he would have been on it all year instead of Dickerson.
by designatedquitter on Sep 21, 2011 3:40 PM EDT reply actions

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