Blue Jays 3, Yankees 0: B Lineup Plays to F Results
by Travis G on Sep 18, 2011 5:12 PM EDT
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PrintThe eight-through-two hitters consisted of Chris Dickerson, Ramiro Pena, Brett Gardner and Eduardo Nunez. That was four-ninth's of today's lineup that managed six baserunners (five hits and one walk). Actually, I shouldn't criticize the bottom/top of the lineup too much: they accounted for 80% of New York's hits. It was really the heart of the lineup that did them in. Cano, A-Rod, Swisher and Chavez combined to go 0-13 with a walk.
Freddy Garcia was removed in the fifth after having conceded three runs, and the bullpen did another good job, holding Toronto scoreless for 3.1 innings. It didn't matter though, because the batters forgot to show up/Brandon Morrow can be a dominant pitcher, and showed why today.
Play of the Game: Adam Lind's second solo-home run that made it 2-0 in the fourth (-10%).
The Twins come to town tomorrow for a makeup of a rained-out April game.
Phil Hughes has been scratched from the start (back issue) in place of A.J. Burnett.
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Sounds like we got out pitched today
I’m not sure though, as I couldn’t watch the game.
Ah well, the Red Sox lost again. That makes me immensely happy!
"WHO WOULD LEAD?! THE CLOWN?!"
by I'mGivingYouARaise on Sep 18, 2011 5:31 PM EDT reply actions
What is our Magic number to clinch the East? And how many games back are Tampa back from Boston now after they beat the Sox?
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They Finally called up Baby Jesus
7 for division. 5(?) for playoffs.
Tampa is 2 games back in the WC from Boston, and also only 2 games back in the all-important loss column.
"He's a bi-racial angel!"
"Red Sox Nation? What a bunch of bullshit that is." - Hank Steinbrenner
by Ella Grace on Sep 18, 2011 5:47 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
It's too bad there are so many games left between the Yankees and Rays
It’s been fun rooting for them to catch the Red Sox, but it’s time to start rooting against them again.
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by Q-TDSK on Sep 18, 2011 5:55 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
And time to start rooting for the O's
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by I'mGivingYouARaise on Sep 18, 2011 5:56 PM EDT up reply actions
Oh yes
One of the announcers on TBS was pointing out how the Red Sox aren’t necessarily happy playing a team with nothing to lose right now. This could be a lot of fun.
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by Q-TDSK on Sep 18, 2011 6:00 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
And Buck's vindictive
You KNOW he wants to spoil their season as much as he possibly can.
"WHO WOULD LEAD?! THE CLOWN?!"
by I'mGivingYouARaise on Sep 18, 2011 6:06 PM EDT up reply actions
I don't know if I like this.
CC is going to start one of the games of the double header and then again on three days rest on the 25th so that he is lined up for game 1 of the ALDS.
CC prefers pitching on 3 days rest.
He said himself that he doesn’t have that extra juice from sitting so long, so he doesn’t overthrow. I think we’ve all seen lately what an extra day of rest does to our ace.
"He's a bi-racial angel!"
"Red Sox Nation? What a bunch of bullshit that is." - Hank Steinbrenner
by Ella Grace on Sep 18, 2011 5:45 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
I think it is
i mean he’s not getting bombed, but it looks like he doesn’t have the control and movement he usually has. I do believe he is over throwing.
Someone posted his splits the other day of his numbers in the 5-man and 6-man.
Huge difference. They gave two separate stats for each, but the only ones I can remember are an under 3 ERA in the 5-man and an over 4 ERA in the 6-man. Add that to what he said about how he doesn’t like the 6-man and prefers pitching on short rest because he doesn’t overthrow which helps him locate his pitches, and I’d say that’s pretty accurate.
"He's a bi-racial angel!"
"Red Sox Nation? What a bunch of bullshit that is." - Hank Steinbrenner
by Ella Grace on Sep 18, 2011 6:09 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
But are those normal struggles or is it because of extended rest?
Who is to say he would pitch better on normal rest?
CC, I would imagine.
He says sitting an extra day gives him more juice in his arm, which makes sense. So when he pitches on extra rest, he overthrows (which we’ve seen him do lately). When he overthrows, he can’t locate the ball as well as he can on normal or short rest. We’ve seen all of these things happen to him since the 6 man rotation started. If it was just 1 or 2 games, then I wouldn’t think much of it. But he’s labored and/or had command problems in every start since the Tampa series, when he gave up those 5 HRs.
"He's a bi-racial angel!"
"Red Sox Nation? What a bunch of bullshit that is." - Hank Steinbrenner
But numbers don't lie.
"He's a bi-racial angel!"
"Red Sox Nation? What a bunch of bullshit that is." - Hank Steinbrenner
You can't say with certainty that it is the extra rest that is making CC struggle.
It’s not like a .5 difference in ERA is proof that he is better on normal rest. How good were the lineups he was facing? What ballparks was he pitching in? Who was catching? Who was playing defense behind him? There are so many plausible explanations that are disregarded for an easy narrative.
not everything is a narrative
no control is no control regardless of who he is facing. He’s been wild and he’s not hitting his spots. No one is saying he lost his velocity so he’s not serving up meatballs but he’s still giving up hits and throwing a lot of pitches. There are definitely external circumstances that could contribute but he’s defeating himself by walking a lot of people and throwing too many pitches. CC’s also come out and said he doesn’t like the 6 man rotation and likes working on short rest so i think that is very telling that there is a connection. Obviously if he didn’t say those things this would all just be suggestions but i think there is some truth to it.
We've seen him pitch better on normal rest.
The problems he’s been having lately he didn’t have in the first half. Or last year. Or the year before. I’m not saying he’s perfect all the time on normal rest, but come on, the CC we’ve been seeing lately has not been dominant CC, and it’s because he hasn’t been locating his pitches, which leads to more walks, hits, and pitches thrown.
"He's a bi-racial angel!"
"Red Sox Nation? What a bunch of bullshit that is." - Hank Steinbrenner
I found it (courtesy of bluecheese999, who posted the stats):
From baseball-reference.com
In 5 man rotation: 15-5 2.56 ERA
In 6 man rotation: 4-3 4.04 ERA
CC on 4 days of rest: 2.69 ERA
CC on 5+ days of rest: 3.26 ERA
"He's a bi-racial angel!"
"Red Sox Nation? What a bunch of bullshit that is." - Hank Steinbrenner
I’m concerned about the rotation in general. Outside of Nova, the best two starts we’ve had recently came from Hughes and A.J. C.C.‘s been struggling in general (too much rest?), Colon hasn’t looked good, and Garcia’s been really ineffective of late.
Farewell and thanks to #46.
by Yankee Frankee on Sep 18, 2011 5:57 PM EDT up reply actions
Colon has a 3.06 ERA against teams not named Toronto this season.
Toronto is to Tolo what Oakland is to Hughes what Boston is to CC what Kansas City is to Nova.
/Cool narrative
Ahhhhh reading OTM after this loss was a pleasure
"WHO WOULD LEAD?! THE CLOWN?!"
by I'mGivingYouARaise on Sep 18, 2011 5:54 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
… Yes, yes indeed! :)
Farewell and thanks to #46.
by Yankee Frankee on Sep 18, 2011 5:58 PM EDT up reply actions
The panic is almost intoxicating
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by I'mGivingYouARaise on Sep 18, 2011 6:19 PM EDT up reply actions
That's a tall order
Not only are they one of the hottest teams in MLB right now, there’s a DH in this series.
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by Q-TDSK on Sep 18, 2011 5:57 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
No they won't.
Have you seen how that team is playing? And how our team is playing? We’ll be lucky to split.
I'd take a split
It’d serve our goals while still screwing the Red Sox. Win-win.
by long time listener on Sep 18, 2011 6:06 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Same here
"WHO WOULD LEAD?! THE CLOWN?!"
by I'mGivingYouARaise on Sep 18, 2011 6:07 PM EDT up reply actions
and
If we win tomorrow (which we should, against an absolutely DOA Twins team, AJ notwithstanding), a split clinches a playoff spot.
by long time listener on Sep 18, 2011 6:09 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Everybody wins
Especially if the O’s win
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by I'mGivingYouARaise on Sep 18, 2011 6:11 PM EDT up reply actions
I don't see how Baltimore wins more than a game against them.
The first game of tomorrow’s double header is the only game that looks remotely winnable for them.
Yeah, 2-2 gets us within one game of the playoffs
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by Q-TDSK on Sep 18, 2011 6:09 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
The Chargers defense sucks
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by I'mGivingYouARaise on Sep 18, 2011 6:49 PM EDT reply actions
Fantasy and just because
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by I'mGivingYouARaise on Sep 18, 2011 7:52 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
HUghes & Chamberlin could be had in trades; at least as soon
as they are healed. Hughes next season & Chamberlin whenever.
I miss Kennedy & what he could have given us. Hopefully, Nova &,
Noesi stay. Betances, Banuelos, Warren, & Phelps remain with the
organization.. Warren & Phelps are innings eaters and have nothing
more to prove in triple A.
Yea I miss Kennedy too
There’s just the small catch of Kennedy being on the team = Curtis Granderson not in the lineup.
Welcome to the Majors, Jesus!
Now PLAY HIM MOAR!!
I'll take Grandy over IPK + Ajax anyday
IPK = soft tossing and unknown how he’ll do in the AL east
Ajax= over-glorified Defensive replacement.
Well that's a shame.
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Don't forget Castro!
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Losing games
With 7 games with Rays, and 3 with the Red Sox…….it seems as if Girardi should be playing ALL the games to WIN until a spot in the play-offs is clinched. It’s a long shot, folks, but there is a possibility the Yanks could not make the play-offs. Anything is possible!!!
Anything is possible.
Like winning the 2009 World Series.
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by Lord Duggan on Sep 19, 2011 12:32 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
We wanted to lose though
The Phillies just wanted to lose more
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by I'mGivingYouARaise on Sep 19, 2011 1:16 AM EDT up reply actions
you'd love that wouldn't you
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