Yankees Lose 6-4 to Angels Despite Multiple Chances to Win
by Frank Campagnola on Aug 9, 2011 10:55 PM EDT
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Well, that sucked.
A.J. Burnett had a lot going for him through the first five innings. He had allowed only five hits, all of which were singles, did not walk a batter, and struck out six Angels. But the sixth inning wasn't his.
Bobby Abreu led off the inning with a Yankee Stadium homer, a line drive that hardly reached the first row in right field. Following a Torii Hunter flyout, Mark Trumbo walked and tagged up on a long fly ball off the bat of Vernon Wells.
With two outs and first base open, the Yankees intentionally walked Maicer Izturis, who was 2-for-2 at the time, a move I disagreed with. Izturis doesn't have the kind of bat that will change the outcome of a game (5 HRs, .713 OPS coming into tonight), and I hardly ever like the idea of instructing a pitcher to intentionally miss the strike zone four times.
Following the intentional walk, Burnett walked Peter Bourjos to load the bases, and Jeff Mathis made him pay by crushing a hanging slider for a ground-rule double over the head of Curtis Granderson to give the Angels a 3-1 lead. A wild pitch from Burnett made the score 4-1, and Erick Aybar lined out to finally end the inning.
With Dan Haren cruising, the three run deficit seemed difficult to overcome. With two outs and no one on in the seventh inning, Curtis Granderson's first inning homer was all the Yankees could brag about. But Russell Martin's double gave the inning some hope, and Eduardo Nunez drove him in with a bloop single to right to cut the lead to 4-2.
Brett Gardner's single pushed Nunez to third and chased Haren in the process, forcing Fernando Rodney to enter the game earlier than expected. With Derek Jeter batting, Gardner stole second base to set up second and third with two outs, and the Captain delivered with a game tying single, knocking Rodney out of the game.
Hisanori Takahashi entered the game to face Curtis Granderson, and struck him out.
With a two out rally, the game was back to square one.
In the eighth, David Robertson tossed a 1-2-3 inning, and Scott Downs escaped a first and second, 2-out jam by getting Russell Martin to ground into a fielder's choice.
Mariano Rivera entered the game to pitch the ninth, and served up a two-run homer off the bat of Bobby Abreu, his second of the game.
I really hate the idea that the closer has to pitch the ninth inning of a tie game at home. David Robertson had only thrown twelve pitches in the eighth, and was very effective. Getting a second inning from Robertson allows Mo to enter the game later, essentially making the bullpen deeper. There was no need to burn through relievers.
However, it is hard to fault Girardi for using Rivera. I just disagree with his choice of when to use him.
In the bottom of the ninth, Eduardo Nunez led off with a single and stole second base. After Brett Gardner swung at ball four for strike three, Derek Jeter walked to bring Curtis Granderson to the plate as the winning run.
Granderson barely beat out a near game-ending double play ball to give Mark Teixeira a chance, but Granderson idiotically got fooled by the old Jeff Nelson, picked off to end the game. Why he was running, I have no clue. There was no reason to risk taking the bat out of Teixeira's hands, but Granderson did just that.
Unbelievable. The Yankees had multiple chances to take the lead and eventually win this game throughout the last three innings, but were unable to do so. To lose the game the way they did was heartbreaking.
This hurts now, but tomorrow is another day.
Play of the Game: Abreu's 9th inning homer (42.2%).
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by Frank Campagnola on Aug 9, 2011 10:58 PM EDT up reply actions
Another day for REVENGE.
Bring up Montero
Comments full of insight and snark 24/7
**** Boston!
by Xavier10 on Aug 9, 2011 11:00 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Ironically
You spelled idiotically wrong
Unless you're a pitcher or Gustavo Molina, kindly SWING THE BAT and ignore the Binder's bunt signal.
Good catch. Just really annoyed right now
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You go through The Sporting News for the last 100 years, and you will find two things are always true. You never have enough pitching, and nobody ever made money.
- Donald Fehr
by Frank Campagnola on Aug 9, 2011 11:02 PM EDT up reply actions
haha it’s fine. you can delete this
Unless you're a pitcher or Gustavo Molina, kindly SWING THE BAT and ignore the Binder's bunt signal.
I don’t care that much
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- Annie Savoy
You go through The Sporting News for the last 100 years, and you will find two things are always true. You never have enough pitching, and nobody ever made money.
- Donald Fehr
by Frank Campagnola on Aug 9, 2011 11:05 PM EDT up reply actions
UNPLEASANT INTERNET DUDE
"Now I've had everything except the thrill of watching Babe Ruth play."
by WhatwouldJeterdo on Aug 9, 2011 11:06 PM EDT up reply actions
Mo’s swagger is gone like (insert pop connection here)
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by Jedi Master A-Rod on Aug 9, 2011 11:10 PM EDT up reply actions
Mo's Worst Moments (10 Slides)
"in order that you will write correctly of wat you really see if you dint go around with your eyes shut"
Cricket blog?
Mtat, I hope you’re happy that you just gave BR an idea for their slideshow for tomorrow.
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by Chris McKeown on Aug 9, 2011 11:12 PM EDT up reply actions
So what time can we expect it on the front page?
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by Jedi Master A-Rod on Aug 9, 2011 11:13 PM EDT up reply actions
You may see it Thursday morning, actually.
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by Chris McKeown on Aug 9, 2011 11:54 PM EDT up reply actions
Just got home
Stinky poo loss!
"WHO WOULD LEAD?! THE CLOWN?!"
by I'mGivingYouARaise on Aug 9, 2011 10:58 PM EDT reply actions
That was just infuriating
intentionally walking Izturis, an average hitter at best, with 2 outs is inexcusable. Granderson ending the game getting picked off with the #2 home run hitter in baseball at the plate is inexcusable. Why was he not given the red light on running? This game was winnable, but we lost because of poor decisions.
So now the guys in the subway are saying Jesus is coming on October 21, 2011, but that would mean he wouldn't be on the playoff roster, let alone be eligible for it. I really don't know where these guys are getting their information from...
what was joe's intent in walking izturis
by jadedeed2327 on Aug 9, 2011 11:02 PM EDT up reply actions
No clue. That was dumb.
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by Frank Campagnola on Aug 9, 2011 11:04 PM EDT up reply actions
Agreed
When he called for that intentional pass, I had the feeling it would end up hurting them. Could almost say it lost them the game. Unless its someone up like Gonzalez or Pujols or someone who has dominated the guy on the mound in the past, you don’t intentionally walk with 2 outs. Unbelievable!
I was getting updates on my computer
and I couldn’t believe Granderson was picked off to end the game. Who’s idea was that anyway??? And why would you take away the chance for Teixeira to win the game with one swing?
According to Girardi on the press conference, Granderson had the green light. It was Grandy’s choice.
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You go through The Sporting News for the last 100 years, and you will find two things are always true. You never have enough pitching, and nobody ever made money.
- Donald Fehr
by Frank Campagnola on Aug 9, 2011 11:04 PM EDT up reply actions
Why would he run in that situation anyway?
Green light or not, your #3 guy is at the plate with the opportunity to do some serious damage. Even if he would have been safe, I’d still be mad. What a terrible decision on his part.
If he was safe, I wouldn't have been mad.
It would have still be a stupid risk to take, but I wouldn’t have been mad.
"Now I've had everything except the thrill of watching Babe Ruth play."
by WhatwouldJeterdo on Aug 9, 2011 11:07 PM EDT up reply actions
I'd be mad
only because it was such a bad decision.
it was still stupid.
Unless you're a pitcher or Gustavo Molina, kindly SWING THE BAT and ignore the Binder's bunt signal.
(Nunez doing it too)
Unless you're a pitcher or Gustavo Molina, kindly SWING THE BAT and ignore the Binder's bunt signal.
Really stupid. He needed to be on base. Gardner’s run (at the time) was what mattered. Who cares if he has second base.
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by Frank Campagnola on Aug 9, 2011 11:19 PM EDT up reply actions
Because if Tex hits a single, possible tie game?
"WHO WOULD LEAD?! THE CLOWN?!"
by I'mGivingYouARaise on Aug 9, 2011 11:20 PM EDT up reply actions
Tex wasn’t at the plate when Nunez took scond. It was Gardner.
When you’re losing, you need baserunners. Those baserunners took unnecessary risks in the ninth, and one of them cost the game.
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- Donald Fehr
by Frank Campagnola on Aug 9, 2011 11:30 PM EDT up reply actions
Just giving a reason why Grandy tries to steal
Not saying I agree with it.
"WHO WOULD LEAD?! THE CLOWN?!"
by I'mGivingYouARaise on Aug 9, 2011 11:33 PM EDT up reply actions
He's talking about Nunez idiotic baserunning on the steal when Gardy was up.
Not Grandy’s.
Residing on the BEast Coast.
Ah
"WHO WOULD LEAD?! THE CLOWN?!"
by I'mGivingYouARaise on Aug 9, 2011 11:46 PM EDT up reply actions
x
Unless you're a pitcher or Gustavo Molina, kindly SWING THE BAT and ignore the Binder's bunt signal.
The Shift Key?
"in order that you will write correctly of wat you really see if you dint go around with your eyes shut"
Cricket blog?
by MattF15 on Aug 9, 2011 11:09 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Seriously.
Type like a normal human or get out.
"Now I've had everything except the thrill of watching Babe Ruth play."
by WhatwouldJeterdo on Aug 9, 2011 11:11 PM EDT up reply actions
Baseball Blog Troll application is still in development.
"in order that you will write correctly of wat you really see if you dint go around with your eyes shut"
Cricket blog?
whats wrong with my typing? who the heck are you?
by jadedeed2327 on Aug 9, 2011 11:43 PM EDT up reply actions
USE THE SHIFT KEY.
Everyone else gets told to type normally, you shouldn’t be the exception.
"Now I've had everything except the thrill of watching Babe Ruth play."
by WhatwouldJeterdo on Aug 9, 2011 11:48 PM EDT up reply actions
you have to type in upper case here? where is that rule
by jadedeed2327 on Aug 9, 2011 11:52 PM EDT up reply actions
You have to type like a reasonably educated person.
"Now I've had everything except the thrill of watching Babe Ruth play."
by WhatwouldJeterdo on Aug 9, 2011 11:54 PM EDT up reply actions
your problem is that i dont do uppercase for my first letter in a sentence?
by jadedeed2327 on Aug 9, 2011 11:55 PM EDT up reply actions
Yes
My Seton Hall blog: http://thesetonhallblog.blogspot.com/
My Steelers blog: thenewsteelcurtain.blogspot.com
My Draft Blog: draftdatabase.wordpress.com
by seton hall and steelers on Aug 9, 2011 11:56 PM EDT up reply actions
Can’t tell if serious…
"Everything looks nicer when you win. The girls are prettier, the cigars taste better. The trees are greener."—Billy Martin
by Chris McKeown on Aug 9, 2011 11:56 PM EDT up reply actions
People have always been told that typing like a moron is not flying here.
"Now I've had everything except the thrill of watching Babe Ruth play."
by WhatwouldJeterdo on Aug 9, 2011 11:57 PM EDT up reply actions
Wasn't talking to you.
"Now I've had everything except the thrill of watching Babe Ruth play."
by WhatwouldJeterdo on Aug 10, 2011 12:02 AM EDT up reply actions
"in order that you will write correctly of wat you really see if you dint go around with your eyes shut"
Cricket blog?
Oh, the irony.
"Now I've had everything except the thrill of watching Babe Ruth play."
by WhatwouldJeterdo on Aug 10, 2011 12:27 AM EDT up reply actions
Truthfully, I only pay attention to people that bother acting like they’re adults or partake in, at the very least, decent discussion. So yes, you definitely have a point now that I think about it.
"Everything looks nicer when you win. The girls are prettier, the cigars taste better. The trees are greener."—Billy Martin
by Chris McKeown on Aug 10, 2011 12:10 AM EDT up reply actions
there is too much arguing and fighting in here instead of yankee talk
by jadedeed2327 on Aug 10, 2011 12:12 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Arguing and fighting is part of being a fan, though. There have been plenty of heated debates over topics and that’s always welcomed. As long as there aren’t personal attacks, which there very rarely are.
"Everything looks nicer when you win. The girls are prettier, the cigars taste better. The trees are greener."—Billy Martin
by Chris McKeown on Aug 10, 2011 12:15 AM EDT up reply actions
the problem is the arguments isnt about baseball , its about attacking each other
by jadedeed2327 on Aug 10, 2011 12:16 AM EDT up reply actions
There’s definitely some poking back and forth between certain people. But I don’t think I’ve ever seen you as a victim of that.
Basically, it comes down to getting over the fact that someone disagrees with your opinion and moving on. The internet certainly isn’t for the faint of heart.
"Everything looks nicer when you win. The girls are prettier, the cigars taste better. The trees are greener."—Billy Martin
by Chris McKeown on Aug 10, 2011 12:18 AM EDT up reply actions
Exactly.
It’s not too much to ask someone to type normally. PSA is not an instant message. Spell stuff out. Capitalize words that need capitalizing. It’s not that hard to do.
"Now I've had everything except the thrill of watching Babe Ruth play."
by WhatwouldJeterdo on Aug 10, 2011 12:13 AM EDT up reply actions
They also aren't trolls.
You get a little leeway if you actually bring something to the conversation.
"Now I've had everything except the thrill of watching Babe Ruth play."
by WhatwouldJeterdo on Aug 10, 2011 12:17 AM EDT up reply actions
its just easier to type in lowercase for me, that is all, than to keep hitting the shift button
by jadedeed2327 on Aug 10, 2011 12:14 AM EDT up reply actions
maybe if you asked nicely instead of yelling at people and demanding them to get out if they dont do what you ask for
by jadedeed2327 on Aug 10, 2011 12:15 AM EDT up reply actions
I'm really not here to sugarcoat things for you.
I don’t think people should have to be asked to not type “u think ppl r dumb bcuz of this?!”.
"Now I've had everything except the thrill of watching Babe Ruth play."
by WhatwouldJeterdo on Aug 10, 2011 12:19 AM EDT up reply actions
I can see why you are in a bad mood
but Shift Key? Caps? Grammar? really?
I looked up Whatwouldjeterdo in the dictionary. It wasn’t there.
I’m pissed to. But we should stick to baseball.
Out of respect and courtesy to you
That last line should be spelled “I’m pissed too.” In fact it should have better been expressed as “I, too, am upset.” Or “I am upset as well.”
Or “Damn it Mo! Again?”
There's a big difference:
No one’s asking for perfect grammar. Just at least make an attempt and actually write out full sentences when making points. Also it’s all in the subject line…
Didn’t help that he just asked like a billion questions in two minutes immediately after the game so we just were overloaded with stupid posts.
Is it so much to ask for? I think not.
Unless you're a pitcher or Gustavo Molina, kindly SWING THE BAT and ignore the Binder's bunt signal.
Curtis had the greenlight...
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No idea why.
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- Annie Savoy
You go through The Sporting News for the last 100 years, and you will find two things are always true. You never have enough pitching, and nobody ever made money.
- Donald Fehr
by Frank Campagnola on Aug 9, 2011 11:03 PM EDT up reply actions
It was Granderson’s choice, apparently.
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You go through The Sporting News for the last 100 years, and you will find two things are always true. You never have enough pitching, and nobody ever made money.
- Donald Fehr
by Frank Campagnola on Aug 9, 2011 11:05 PM EDT up reply actions
I do.
It’s the same reason why players tend to run when it’s runner on 1st, 2 out, because it get them into scoring position so it only takes a single to score them. It’s a good place to run; the best time to take a risk is when you have less to lose.
Though with Tex batting, it’s less certain. But I still understand why. It might not have been optimal, but it’s certainly defensible.
the best time to take a risk is when you have less to lose.
Yeah, and they had a lot to lose, like, the game.
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You go through The Sporting News for the last 100 years, and you will find two things are always true. You never have enough pitching, and nobody ever made money.
- Donald Fehr
by Frank Campagnola on Aug 9, 2011 11:18 PM EDT up reply actions
Tex has roughly as many singles has he has XBH. There’s no reason to be running when the guy at the plate is basically a 50/50 shot to drive guys in regardless of what base they’re on.
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by Jedi Master A-Rod on Aug 9, 2011 11:20 PM EDT up reply actions
50/50 shot?
Forgetting about all the strikeouts, outs, and walks are we? Even some doubles don’t score guys from first. More like a 10/90 shot.
You know exactly what I mean. If Tex puts the ball in play for a hit it’s just as likely to go for extra bases as it is to be a single.
With Granderson on 1st it stands to reason that he could easily score on a double.
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by Jedi Master A-Rod on Aug 9, 2011 11:28 PM EDT up reply actions
Yes, Grandy messed up
but he shouldn’t be the topic of conversation as it pertains to this loss. It’s Mo. He’s been looking shaky lately and he’s mainly to blame for this loss. Not Grandy.
I bet it's good to be playing again, huh?
im with you bro...he says it worked before...that was his reason...
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Looks like the only requirement for journalism these days is to BS on the spot.
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hahahahaha
Unless you're a pitcher or Gustavo Molina, kindly SWING THE BAT and ignore the Binder's bunt signal.
Looks like there’s hope for anyone that bothers with a fanpost!
"Everything looks nicer when you win. The girls are prettier, the cigars taste better. The trees are greener."—Billy Martin
by Chris McKeown on Aug 9, 2011 11:11 PM EDT up reply actions
To be fair
it IS My9
"WHO WOULD LEAD?! THE CLOWN?!"
by I'mGivingYouARaise on Aug 9, 2011 11:08 PM EDT up reply actions
It has to be the scrubbiest network out there.
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by Chris McKeown on Aug 9, 2011 11:11 PM EDT up reply actions
Pause.
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by Frank Campagnola on Aug 9, 2011 11:11 PM EDT up reply actions
a BS in BS....not uncommon
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My apologies to the mods and regulars here
who control Yankee thought, but:
It is time for AJ to go. Dollar for dollar he is (absent injury, for which the clubs are insured) the worst free agent signing of all time. He is the 6th starter that should be dropped from the rotation;
It is time for you to stop complaining about Jeter and Posada’s shortcomings. They have served this club in more ways than on the field performance for the past 15+ years, How our crappy manager plays them is a wholly different issue. We know nothing about Montero yet (although he deserves a shot), and Nunez is a work in progress, to say the least, in the field;
It is time to realign the outfield: Gardner should be the everyday CF, with Granderson in LF and Swisher in RF. Ideally, Swisher would DH and we’d get an up and coming OF for RF, but that does not appear imminent.
In the meantime, we need to deal with Girardi – one of the worst tactical managers I have ever seen – until better leadership is found.
AJ > Hughes
That is all.
"Now I've had everything except the thrill of watching Babe Ruth play."
by WhatwouldJeterdo on Aug 9, 2011 11:14 PM EDT up reply actions
I'm glad you acknowledge that Grandy is no longer a journeyman, but...
Yes Posada is SO deserving of playing time!
Yes AJ has been way worse than Phil Hughes this year!
Yes there is totally a way to get rid of AJ!
Unless you're a pitcher or Gustavo Molina, kindly SWING THE BAT and ignore the Binder's bunt signal.
As long as it's the Red Sox I'm fine with that
but you’d need to release him, not just waive him, for that to happen
Can you provide proof to go with that statement:
Dollar for dollar he is (absent injury, for which the clubs are insured) the worst free agent signing of all time. He is the 6th starter that should be dropped from the rotation;
Carl Pavano says “HI! I got $38m and only started 26 games in 4 seasons with the Yankees!”
By the way, Nova and Burnett are both better than Hughes this season.
x
Dollar for dollar he is (absent injury, for which the clubs are insured) the worst free agent signing of all time
2007 version
"Everything looks nicer when you win. The girls are prettier, the cigars taste better. The trees are greener."—Billy Martin
by Chris McKeown on Aug 9, 2011 11:19 PM EDT up reply actions
Not worth his contract at all.
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by Chris McKeown on Aug 9, 2011 11:21 PM EDT up reply actions
What free agent ever is?
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- Donald Fehr
by Frank Campagnola on Aug 9, 2011 11:21 PM EDT up reply actions
Assuming he opts out, his three year deal is probably the most successful free agent contract the Yankees ever handed out.
If he signs an extension or a new deal, then its probably not going to be as great near the end.
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- Annie Savoy
You go through The Sporting News for the last 100 years, and you will find two things are always true. You never have enough pitching, and nobody ever made money.
- Donald Fehr
by Frank Campagnola on Aug 9, 2011 11:23 PM EDT up reply actions
Same goes for you.
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- Annie Savoy
You go through The Sporting News for the last 100 years, and you will find two things are always true. You never have enough pitching, and nobody ever made money.
- Donald Fehr
by Frank Campagnola on Aug 9, 2011 11:24 PM EDT up reply actions
zing!
Unless you're a pitcher or Gustavo Molina, kindly SWING THE BAT and ignore the Binder's bunt signal.
At least he’s saying it’s great now!
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- Annie Savoy
You go through The Sporting News for the last 100 years, and you will find two things are always true. You never have enough pitching, and nobody ever made money.
- Donald Fehr
by Frank Campagnola on Aug 9, 2011 11:26 PM EDT up reply actions
Who poured water on it?
"in order that you will write correctly of wat you really see if you dint go around with your eyes shut"
Cricket blog?
Turned into 56 LT in a hurry.
"Now I've had everything except the thrill of watching Babe Ruth play."
by WhatwouldJeterdo on Aug 9, 2011 11:50 PM EDT up reply actions
ding ding ding
We have a winner, Judge! Or at least a strong candidate.
I had my suspicions as soon as he said “dont respond to it then.”
That gets a long term deal, that is.
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I believe in the Church of Baseball.
- Annie Savoy
You go through The Sporting News for the last 100 years, and you will find two things are always true. You never have enough pitching, and nobody ever made money.
- Donald Fehr
by Frank Campagnola on Aug 9, 2011 11:22 PM EDT up reply actions
Jeter did pretty well over the course of his 10 year deal
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by Chris McKeown on Aug 9, 2011 11:24 PM EDT up reply actions
1 in how many though? Jeter is the exception to a lot of rules
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- Annie Savoy
You go through The Sporting News for the last 100 years, and you will find two things are always true. You never have enough pitching, and nobody ever made money.
- Donald Fehr
by Frank Campagnola on Aug 9, 2011 11:24 PM EDT up reply actions
True. The bad contracts definitely outweigh the good ones.
Ex: Vernon Wells, Barry Zito, Chan Ho Park, MIKE HAMPTON LOL
"Everything looks nicer when you win. The girls are prettier, the cigars taste better. The trees are greener."—Billy Martin
by Chris McKeown on Aug 9, 2011 11:27 PM EDT up reply actions
Agreed
"Everything looks nicer when you win. The girls are prettier, the cigars taste better. The trees are greener."—Billy Martin
by Chris McKeown on Aug 9, 2011 11:22 PM EDT up reply actions
Although to tell you the truth.
I didn’t like Giambi that much. When I was in the middle of my teens I thought way too much of batting average, and Giambi’s was pretty bad.
What I disliked about Giambi was the fact that he was injured often after 2003. What sucks is the Yankees just missed out on his best two years. Hence the massive contract.
"Everything looks nicer when you win. The girls are prettier, the cigars taste better. The trees are greener."—Billy Martin
by Chris McKeown on Aug 9, 2011 11:29 PM EDT up reply actions
Eh, Pavano wasn’t bad, just didn’t turn out well. Giambi wasn’t bad either.
Igawa on the other hand? Yikes. And 2007 Clemens was stupid.
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- Donald Fehr
by Frank Campagnola on Aug 9, 2011 11:20 PM EDT up reply actions
Well
it’s all hindsight. Regardless of what they “could” have done, Pavano ranks in my book as the worst. At least Igawa has been pitching all these years. At least Clemens and Giambi tried to help the Yankees win. What did Pavano do? Get injured and start less than a season’s worth of starts while collecting his entire contract.
It wasn’t a bad move, though. He was a good pitcher, it was just a shame he was hurt.
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by Frank Campagnola on Aug 9, 2011 11:23 PM EDT up reply actions
Pavano wasn't bad?
Go sit in a corner and thing about what you said young man.
by HappyLuckyGoldenDragonNumber1! on Aug 10, 2011 3:34 PM EDT up reply actions
anyone that thought the Pavano signing, when it was made
was bad is talking directly out of their asshole. Now go thing about what you said.
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I disagree with Carl Pavano and Jason Giambi.
No one predicted Pavano’s otherworldly injury woes. Giambi was productive throughout most of his contract. Quite frankly, he was underrated in pinstripes
Nice to have different opinions around here.
I don’t 100%, but good someone stood up for their thoughts and don’t care what the regs think.
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What does Deion think?
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#WhyAreYou is actually trending on twitter right now
Cant make this up,lol
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by YankeesJets on Aug 10, 2011 12:02 AM EDT up reply actions
That his opinion is greatly oppressed by the big bad regulars.
"Now I've had everything except the thrill of watching Babe Ruth play."
by WhatwouldJeterdo on Aug 9, 2011 11:56 PM EDT up reply actions
I'M ALWAYZ WRITE
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by Chris McKeown on Aug 9, 2011 11:58 PM EDT up reply actions
From my perspective,
different opinions are respected here as long as they’re presented with a modicum of credibility. Facts, statistics, any kind of evidence to support an argument always will produce a civil discussion on this site. It’s the ones who post thoughts or ideas like they’re typing an IM or Twitter message, with nothing to back up their claim/statement/opinion that have the hardest time being accepted.
It’s fine to say “I think Don Mattingly was one of the best first baseman the Yankees ever had.” as long as I provide facts to support my argument. It’s the same in the real world. There’s no job on earth that I can think of where you don’t have to research and support any position or idea you have.
If there was only one opinion here, it would be pretty boring here
My opinion differs sometimes from the “regulars” here but it doesnt make me like any of them any less.
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by YankeesJets on Aug 10, 2011 12:09 AM EDT up reply actions
This.
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by Chris McKeown on Aug 10, 2011 12:09 AM EDT up reply actions
Too many people take offense to different opinions.
Show them what you’re talking about. Don’t make fun of them. It’s what I’m trying to explain.
“lulz he teh stoopid.”
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No one takes offense.
But if you throw something out there that is dumb, you’ll be told it’s dumb. Negative reinforcement exists for a reason in the world.
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by WhatwouldJeterdo on Aug 10, 2011 12:10 AM EDT up reply actions
Exactly. Screaming “MARIANO RIVERA FU*#)$) SUCKS HE BLEW IT AGAIN” is just asking to be called a moron.
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by Chris McKeown on Aug 10, 2011 12:11 AM EDT up reply actions
That was an extreme example. Just take a look at the “Bring back Matsui” fanpost….
Does that really make any sense to any of you?
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by Chris McKeown on Aug 10, 2011 12:16 AM EDT up reply actions
What does this even mean?
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by Chris McKeown on Aug 10, 2011 12:35 AM EDT up reply actions
What? I love Matsui
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by YankeesJets on Aug 10, 2011 12:17 AM EDT up reply actions
I'm not offended by anything but the massive amounts of stupidity coming out of the screen.
Not all opinions are created equal. Opinions can be wrong. People need to understand that.
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by WhatwouldJeterdo on Aug 10, 2011 12:15 AM EDT up reply actions
Couldn’t agree more.
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by Chris McKeown on Aug 10, 2011 12:17 AM EDT up reply actions
I agree they can be wrong.
But calling them stupid drives people away and starts drama. This jadeed guy is already mad. lol.
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I dont recall people being called stupid
If people are being called stupid for having an opinion, thats not cool. If they are being called stupid for trolling, im cool with it.
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by YankeesJets on Aug 10, 2011 12:36 AM EDT up reply actions
Trolling?
Fine.
Opinion based newbies? I think we should just show them the way if they’re way off.
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Dont need to show any person the way
People need to get off the high horses and just get along, we are suppose to all be a part of the same team. Its one thing to have differing opinions but its another to try to tell someone there opinion is garbage. Thats not cool.
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by YankeesJets on Aug 10, 2011 12:40 AM EDT up reply actions
Glad we're on the same page.
So let’s stop annoying one another over one comment, fanpost, fanshot…
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The way I see it is if you think a fanshot or fanpost is dumb, just ignore it
Whats the point of tearing some persons idea down, what do people get out of that? Are some of the shots and posts stupid? Sure they are but I give them props for giving it a shot. But the Scutaro stuff was garbage the other night.
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by YankeesJets on Aug 10, 2011 12:47 AM EDT up reply actions
Not to bring this back up...
but you didn’t ignore my “dumb” comment the other night. lol.
Yea the Scutaro post was off, but I don’t even remember getting mad. Why not shrug it off? Flag it? I don’t know.
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The heat of the game is a bit different than a fanpost or fanshot
I mean throwing something like that out there at that time wasnt a very smart thing to do. Nobody wants to hear about bad Yanks memories ever.
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by YankeesJets on Aug 10, 2011 12:54 AM EDT up reply actions
It was a May game.
In all seriousness I didn’t think it mattered. You see highlights all the time of past events. I didn’t think it would start trouble. There was no reason for me to think there was.
I’m ending it there. I don’t want convo 2.0 over here.
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If you're referring to the incident the other day
That wasn’t a matter of opinions…
Unless you're a pitcher or Gustavo Molina, kindly SWING THE BAT and ignore the Binder's bunt signal.
Hahaha, no they're not
Even presented with a modicum of credibility, opinion on this site are looked at with or without facts, and then casually or snarkily insulted time and time again if proven wrong or if said person eventually disagrees with proof or non-proof. People can present the most clear cut, well thought out, sentence structured argument available to them and once the comment section on said opinion gets to the far right side of the comment boxes, it has usually degraded into a discussion that will go back and forth to the point of utter, laughable stupidity.
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by I'mGivingYouARaise on Aug 10, 2011 12:15 AM EDT up reply actions
Whoever says Digimon is a fool.
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by I'mGivingYouARaise on Aug 10, 2011 12:22 AM EDT up reply actions
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Unless you're a pitcher or Gustavo Molina, kindly SWING THE BAT and ignore the Binder's bunt signal.
Pavano's $ was mosty reimbursed
by insurance because of his injuries. The Yankees did not lose as much as you think. Igawa makes $5 million/yr. and was brought on for marketing with the Japanese fan base as well his abilities. He has provided revenues in that regard.
Giambi is no comparison. The “steroid era” makes any comparison nearly impossible, Same with Clemens.
Where do you see this about insurance?
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by Chris McKeown on Aug 9, 2011 11:31 PM EDT up reply actions
Check it out
Read up on how teams insure their player’s contracts. It would be imprudent not to. If they spend millions on a player and he is hurt and unable to perform, their insurance covers the “loss.”
your qualifiers
confuse me. “Value” is not just dollars, it’s also how much the player actually helps the team. You pay Carl Pavano $38m for -0.1 bWAR in 4 seasons, regardless of whether insurance covers it, he doesn’t do the team any good.
AJ, in 3 seasons (including 2011 so far) has provided an average bWAR of 1.17 for his contract. Not what he was paid, but better than Pavano turned out to be. Not to mention, he did pitch an incredible World Series game 2 in 2009 that actually helped the team win the World Series.
Igawa provided -1 bWAR since 2007.
OK, AJ was "valuable"
but is an average bWAR of 1.17 (I am assuming you are correct here) worth $16,5 million/yr.. which is more than Mo, Hughes, D-Rob et al make (not to mention Colon, Garcia, Wade, Ayala)? Is his attitude conducive to building a team’s sprit/morale, as opposed to say someone who would smash his hands or rip off his jersey after being lifted by the manager – in plain sight of media. He may have great stuff, but he is an inconsistent, volatile and unreliable pitcher, 2009 WS or not.
I cant fault the Yanks for the signing of AJ
He pretty much owned them before the signing and its not like the Yanks were the only team in on him. The Braves, who seem to know pitching better than anyone, were really hot on AJ and had to settle for Lowe instead. AJ is up and down but the effort is always there. I still think he has something left and will stick by him for now.
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I'm not saying his bWAR of 1.17 is WORTH $16.5 M a year
I am saying, he’s not the worst signing in the history of Yankee baseball.
I don’t know how the other team members interact with him. Maybe they like that he has emotion when he wins or fails. He looked like he got along great with Nova the other night.
His contract is guaranteed. The fans don’t have to be happy with it, but nothing can be done about it (that I know of). Lobby for non-guaranteed contracts in baseball and see where that gets you.
Emotion is cool
Tantrums are not. Having great stuff as a pitcher is great. Completely losing it, without any ability to navigate through tough situations like we’ve seen with CC, Freddy, Bartolo etc. this year and other quality pitchers, is unacceptable. Either he learns how to pitch, or he should be long man in the bullpen. Watching him pitch is painful. It’s like waiting for disaster to strike. The 13-1(?) game was incredible. If his name was Lance Pendleton, we’d never see him again.
by SparkySaves on Aug 10, 2011 12:04 AM EDT up reply actions
It's because of his contract
that he is in the rotation.
by SparkySaves on Aug 10, 2011 12:11 AM EDT up reply actions
And that whole thing where there’s no one to take his place
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by Jedi Master A-Rod on Aug 10, 2011 12:13 AM EDT up reply actions
Well, we've got this 6-man rotation issue
and if Hughes, who was an 18-game winner last year, is healthy (which he appeared to be before Sunday night), the best 5 are CC, Bartolo, Nova, Phil and Freddy
by SparkySaves on Aug 10, 2011 12:19 AM EDT up reply actions
18-game winner!
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by Jedi Master A-Rod on Aug 10, 2011 12:20 AM EDT up reply actions
I suppose a demotion to SWB is in order?
by SparkySaves on Aug 10, 2011 12:21 AM EDT up reply actions
If he can't stop throwing meatballs, yes.
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by WhatwouldJeterdo on Aug 10, 2011 12:21 AM EDT up reply actions
How can anyone not like meatballs?
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by YankeesJets on Aug 10, 2011 12:22 AM EDT up reply actions
Unless served in my family recipe sauce
They are usually terrible.
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by I'mGivingYouARaise on Aug 10, 2011 12:23 AM EDT up reply actions
you would love my family recipe
My stepmother even makes manicotti from scratch.
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by YankeesJets on Aug 10, 2011 12:24 AM EDT up reply actions
You know we italians are picky about this kind of thing
This is why Olive Garden is perma-banned
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by I'mGivingYouARaise on Aug 10, 2011 12:26 AM EDT up reply actions
I do like the breadsticks and alfredo there but I dont feel like they are family,lol
The rest of the stuff there can be found in the frozen food section
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by YankeesJets on Aug 10, 2011 12:28 AM EDT up reply actions
And if AJ keeps walking the bases loaded
may I suggest a trip to scenic Trenton?
by SparkySaves on Aug 10, 2011 12:22 AM EDT up reply actions
If AJ isnt a contributing part of this team, I think the Yanks have very little chance of winning this year
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by YankeesJets on Aug 10, 2011 12:25 AM EDT up reply actions
Hughes is not very good when he doesnt have huge run support
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by YankeesJets on Aug 10, 2011 12:22 AM EDT up reply actions
What WWJD said.
There really can’t be anymore moving him between the rotation to the bullpen. He’s a starting pitcher.
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by Chris McKeown on Aug 10, 2011 12:23 AM EDT up reply actions
Fine by me. Hughes has done nothing earn a rotation spot this season. At least AJ was decent at one point.
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by Jedi Master A-Rod on Aug 10, 2011 12:23 AM EDT up reply actions
No it's not
He’s in the rotation because he’s one of the top five starting pitchers on the Yankees.
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by nyyrocks29 on Aug 10, 2011 12:15 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
How do you define
“losing it”?
This season, in 23 games started, he’s given up 4+ runs 8 times (6 of which were exactly 4 runs and only 3 of which did he give up 6 or 7 runs).
He’s given up 0 to 3 runs 15 times (5 of which were exactly 3 runs).
So, in his three instances of “losing it” he’s inconsistent compared to the 15 games of 3 runs or less?
I never like Mo pitching in non save situations but cant kill Mo, it happens to every closer
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by YankeesJets on Aug 10, 2011 12:18 AM EDT up reply actions
Sigh. In the morning news, some Boston fan tried saying how the Red Sox have owned CC since 2007. I couldn’t help but tell him off for being incredibly inaccurate.
"Everything looks nicer when you win. The girls are prettier, the cigars taste better. The trees are greener."—Billy Martin
I think he was referring to the 2007 ALCS regarding the Red Sox owning Sabathia in that year but
1) This doesn’t change the fact that in 2009 & 2010 he suffered no such major problems
and
2) Sabathia had also thrown a league-leading 246 innings before facing the Sox in that series and his arm was toast by then.
Unless you're a pitcher or Gustavo Molina, kindly SWING THE BAT and ignore the Binder's bunt signal.
CC also wasn’t very good against the Yankees, either. Chien-Ming Wan was just worse that game.
And his playoff start with the Brewers was also pretty terrible. However, THAT was also after throwing a ridiculous amount of innings to get them to that point.
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by Chris McKeown on Aug 10, 2011 12:26 AM EDT up reply actions
CC
In 2008, CC threw 101 innings in August and September ALONE (4 CG, 2 SHO) to just will those Brewers to the playoffs. I’ve never seen a pitcher so dominating. By the playoffs he was up to 253 innings and just wasn’t sharp against a good-hitting team like the Phils. Frankly I’m almost stunned his arm wasn’t kaput after signing the deal with the Yanks and throwing over 500 innings the past two years. But he still threw 266 1/3 awesome innings in 2009 and then 253 2/3 in 2010. The man is unreal.
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by Jedi Master A-Rod on Aug 10, 2011 12:57 AM EDT up reply actions
Half of this thread needs to be thrown in a dumpster fire.
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by WhatwouldJeterdo on Aug 10, 2011 12:29 AM EDT reply actions
If that's the case
Justin Tuck says: YOU NEED A DUMPSTER!
by SparkySaves on Aug 10, 2011 12:31 AM EDT up reply actions
I do love Justin Tuck.
He’s probably 40% of the reason I care about the Giants.
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by WhatwouldJeterdo on Aug 10, 2011 12:33 AM EDT up reply actions
Great voice
I want him doing NFL on TV when he retires.
by SparkySaves on Aug 10, 2011 12:36 AM EDT up reply actions
Cowboys will be in a strong division battle in 2011
A battle with the Skins over last place.
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by YankeesJets on Aug 10, 2011 12:38 AM EDT up reply actions
They are doing Yankees of 2002-07 type moves
They need a “star” at every position. I dont mind taking a flier on Burress but I do understand why JCo felt disrespected. Im hoping the rookies are as good as they think they are or Jets will be in trouble.
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by YankeesJets on Aug 10, 2011 12:44 AM EDT up reply actions
i found it weird they offered Ellis such a low contract
and Plaxico..ughh i guess he was okay. But i think alot of this year for the jet rides on how much better sanchez can be. Cuz he didn’t impress me in the regular season in the last two years.
Sanchez impresses me most when game is on the line
He doesnt melt under pressure, so he is gonna be fine. Didnt love the Ellis situation from either side. Hope he watches us win a SB. They are really high on the kids, maybe Rex sees something that said Ellis was expendable.
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by YankeesJets on Aug 10, 2011 12:52 AM EDT up reply actions
He doesn't impress me either.
I see Holmes being his only thread.
Plax and Mason are geezers.
Jeremy Kerley is a kid I like. Didn’t do too well when I went to camp, but I’ve seen some of his college footage on youtube and some talk about him. A lot of good. Possibly the starting slot receiver or back up.
Sanchez doesn’t have many weapons again. Even with Holmes and Braylon a year ago he didn’t thrive. They actually got worse. No elite pass rusher and Ellis is gone. The line is putting all it’s eggs into the rookies basket. I think Kendrick got hurt today too. Uh oh.
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So im guessing you wont be a Jets fan till week 8 this year
Sanchez might not have the prettiest numbers but he gets it done when it matters. Take the Broncos and Browns games last year, he won those games, not the faltering defense. As far as the WRs, they are older but its not like they are garbage, Mason has sure hands and Buress will always have value as a decoy.
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by YankeesJets on Aug 10, 2011 12:57 AM EDT up reply actions
I will be a Jets supporter from week 2 on.
I hope Sanchez does well, but little evidence has me believing so. A better QB back there the Jets would have a ring by now.
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I cant agree
The Jets lost both AFC title games due to the defense. Indy game they couldnt defend the pass in the second half, Pitt game they couldnt stop the run at all. Sanchez also a victim of terrible play calling by Schotty. The defense is great based on stats but come crunch time, they are nothing special.
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Not entirely true
They falter at the end of games, I would trust the Browns defense on a goal line stand with the game on the line.
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I'm going to go with a "no" on that.
A better QB back there the Jets would have a ring by now.
Indy dropped 30 on the Jets defense in 2010 and Pittsburgh dropped 24 on them in 2011. Your star defense has got to do better, especially when your offense is facing tough defense itself.
Unless you're a pitcher or Gustavo Molina, kindly SWING THE BAT and ignore the Binder's bunt signal.
LOL Burress
what a waste!
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Giants look weaker.
I’m liking our chances for 2nd place. Too bad the Bears, Bucs, Falcons, and Saints also can win the WC.
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Giants will be 2nd to Eagles
Wouldnt shock me to see Giants come out on top either. Eagles winning the offseason means very little, Redskins usually make big moves every year and get nowhere.
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by YankeesJets on Aug 10, 2011 12:50 AM EDT up reply actions
I seriously don't believe that about the Giants.
Inconsistent offense, less weapons for Eli, new offensive line and less talented, lost depth at CB, no LB’s, Steve Smith knee issue, loss of Kevin Boss, Possible regression of Bradshaw, Jacobs isn’t good.
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Yet you think the Cowboys are improved?
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by YankeesJets on Aug 10, 2011 12:58 AM EDT up reply actions
Lost dead weight in Barber and Davis.
Younger offensive line and it’s talent not garbage young. Signed Abe Elam better safety than Alan Ball. Rob Ryan’s new defense should improve our overall d by 10 spots. It happened with the Browns. Cowboys have the pass rush talent to do the same.
Ware, Rat, Spencer, Hatcher, Spears is a good enough line. (Ware OLB, but he plays on the line.) With LB’s like James and Lee? I doubt the secondary will be that horrible with Jenkins who points to having a bounce back year and a ? with Scandrick or a ? with Newmans health.
Should be interesting, but Garrett had this 1-7 team going. 5-3 with him should of beaten New Orleans.
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I liked the Ryan and Elam moves
The d will be improved but i think they are 7-9 at best.
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Jacobs isn’t good?
lol
Possible regression of Bradshaw?
Evidence? I suppose it’s also possible that other 1000 yard rushers could regress too.
Loss of Kevin Boss?
OH NO THE WORLD’S ENDING. Yes Boss was decent but he’s certainly not irreplaceable.
They’re about the same team they were last year. O-line’s changed but while they might stumble at first due to short training camp, they’ll adjust. I expect they’ll definitely finish ahead of Washington, and probably Dallas as well.
Unless you're a pitcher or Gustavo Molina, kindly SWING THE BAT and ignore the Binder's bunt signal.
Jacobs is an average back.
Should be a fun rivalry this year with Dallas playing the Giants twice in the last 4 weeks. No matter who’s going to be leading the 2nd place race one team will be controlling the others fate.
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Jacobs showed last year he's not an average back
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by Rorschach44 on Aug 10, 2011 11:25 AM EDT up reply actions
top 10? No.
Very good, yes. Get off the hype wagon.
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by Rorschach44 on Aug 10, 2011 11:30 AM EDT up reply actions
he doesn't get the carries
but yes, he’s very good. He proved it last year.
Average= Marion Barber.
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by Rorschach44 on Aug 10, 2011 11:36 AM EDT up reply actions
Marion Barber sucked last year.
Your definitions of good and average are different. So I can understand why we disagree.
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Last night, a comedian died in New York. Somebody knows why. Somebody knows
by Rorschach44 on Aug 10, 2011 11:41 AM EDT up reply actions
aside from Steve Smith and Boss, none of that is true.
Last night, a comedian died in New York. Somebody knows why. Somebody knows
In a nutshell.
"Now I've had everything except the thrill of watching Babe Ruth play."
by WhatwouldJeterdo on Aug 10, 2011 12:55 AM EDT up reply actions
But teh censorship
"Everything looks nicer when you win. The girls are prettier, the cigars taste better. The trees are greener."—Billy Martin
by Chris McKeown on Aug 10, 2011 12:34 AM EDT up reply actions
Stupidity needs censorship.
"Now I've had everything except the thrill of watching Babe Ruth play."
by WhatwouldJeterdo on Aug 10, 2011 12:35 AM EDT up reply actions
This
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by Jedi Master A-Rod on Aug 10, 2011 12:36 AM EDT up reply actions
SHHHHHHHH
"Now I've had everything except the thrill of watching Babe Ruth play."
by WhatwouldJeterdo on Aug 10, 2011 1:00 AM EDT up reply actions
What constitutes stupidity in your estimation?
by SparkySaves on Aug 10, 2011 12:37 AM EDT up reply actions
Apparently, I'm not allowed to say anymore.
"Now I've had everything except the thrill of watching Babe Ruth play."
by WhatwouldJeterdo on Aug 10, 2011 12:40 AM EDT up reply actions
Thought police? Or maybe Dream Police (Cheap Trick)?
by SparkySaves on Aug 10, 2011 12:42 AM EDT up reply actions
Closer to the former, I think.
"Now I've had everything except the thrill of watching Babe Ruth play."
by WhatwouldJeterdo on Aug 10, 2011 12:51 AM EDT up reply actions
Frankie Camp, you are dead wrong about Maicer Izturis.
If there was ever a player that can step up in a tight game and get you a clutch hit it is Maicer. That is why skelator walked him.
"It's our money," owner Arte Moreno said.
.239 with RISP this year
.244 with 2 outs….i’m frightened
by lololol on Aug 10, 2011 1:30 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I had honestly forgotten how few pitches Robertson had thrown in the 8th
I was thinking, ya know…Soriano. Yeah the guy who has 5 Ks, 0 H and 0 BB in 4IP since coming back
by MichaelGGBGrabow on Aug 10, 2011 12:18 PM EDT reply actions
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