Jorge Posada Benched, Eric Chavez to DH Indefinitely
by Brandon C. on Aug 7, 2011 6:00 PM EDT
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PrintJorge Posada is not in the lineup tonight, and will likely not be in the lineup much more in the future. Eric Chavez will be the new primary DH, and if that doesn't work out, Jesus Montero will be promoted. Don't expect to see Montero in the Bronx on Tuesday though, according to Joel Sherman.
Per Sherman:
I heard not 1-day thing. Yankees going with Chavez [at] DH for [a]while. If that [doesn't] work, [they] will try Montero, but no immediate plans to call [up] Montero.
Posada says Girardi told him going with best lineup, again that is not just for tonight.
Erik Boland adds:
Posada: "I'm not happy about it," but "I put myself in this situation."
Mark Feinsand contributes (a first for him):
Girardi: Yanks going to "try some different things" with Posada, so he's not in the DH mix right now. Said his roster spot isn't in trouble.
Marc Carig with the scoop:
Yankees for now will stick with the "status quo," meaning Montero [is] staying in the minors.
More to come. The preview is below. That will be updated with lineups and game news while this post will be updated with DH news, if any more comes.
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Wow
At least Jorge is taking responsibility this time around.
I bet it's good to be playing again, huh?
Chavez is actually strong defensively, so I think this is a waste.
Getting his bat in the lineup is good, but while A-Rod is out, he should be playing 3rd often, not just DHing.
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by WhatwouldJeterdo on Aug 7, 2011 6:17 PM EDT reply actions
I'd also rather see someone not quite as adept with the glove as DH.
But given that they’re not going to DFA Posada, who is the alternative? Jones?
In other news, Chase Utley just threw his bat at Lincecum, clipping him on the ankle.
Usqueadbaugham! Anam muck an dhoul ! Did ye drink me doornail?
Was he ejected?
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by I'mGivingYouARaise on Aug 7, 2011 6:19 PM EDT up reply actions
Nope. It was accidentally, during a swing.
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Intentionally?
Crouching moron, hidden smarta**
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If it was, it was well hidden.
He went out and apologized to Lincecum right away, and Lincecum seemed to accept it. Still, kind of scary.
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Call up Montero, have him DH 3 days a week.
Have Chavez play 3rd and DH when Montero catches 3-4 days a week. That way, you are still getting 3-4 days a week for Chavez on defense. When A-Rod comes back, you readjust.
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by WhatwouldJeterdo on Aug 7, 2011 6:26 PM EDT up reply actions
Oh well, yeah, besides him :)
They’re clearly pretty unwilling to call him up if they don’t have to.
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What are you thinking? That’s just TOO logical to actually do.
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by Chris McKeown on Aug 7, 2011 6:30 PM EDT up reply actions
no doubt, a complete waste
Chavez should be the 3B, Nunez the DH.
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Actually, I was forgetting about Nunez. That would make a lot more sense.
Though I guess DHing protects Chaves from the DL somewhat.
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Running the bases got him there last time haha.
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by WhatwouldJeterdo on Aug 7, 2011 6:44 PM EDT up reply actions
the funny thing is the binder most likely things of Nunez as a PR candidate
for someone like Chavez late in the game, when the most prudent thing would be to have Chavez’ defense in the game the whole time.
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by WhatwouldJeterdo on Aug 7, 2011 6:21 PM EDT reply actions
Well i said this on Friday...i wanted Chavez and Jones to split DH time
and Montero would start at catcher since the Organization sees him that way in the future…well 1 of those things happened…time to hope for the other.
Posada will be the DH again by Thursday
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He’ll be the DH tonight if he throws another shit fit in the next 90 minutes
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by Jedi Master A-Rod on Aug 7, 2011 6:30 PM EDT up reply actions
If he throws another shit fit, the Yankees would be right to DFA him.
I’m all for giving the vets a respectful sendoff. But this is clearly Jorge’s last season in pinstripes, if not the last season of his career (I don’t know who would sign him, but I figure if Jason Giambi can hold on for 3 or 4 seasons as a bench player, Jorge could too), and if he pouts, I don’t know who would defend him.
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also Giambi doesn’t bitch about less playing time. He is fine with being a pinch hitter or whatever ppl use him as
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by Scooby Snacks on Aug 7, 2011 6:52 PM EDT up reply actions
If him bitching about less playing time is why he still gets played
Then higher ups need to be fired.
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by I'mGivingYouARaise on Aug 7, 2011 6:53 PM EDT up reply actions
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I think this basically tells us that Montero will not be up before September
The only good thing about Chavez being DH is Nunez getting into the game, but this is basically destroying our bench. If someone goes down we won’t have anyone to put in without losing the DH. At this point it seems Posada is going to be clogging up the bench, he won’t be DHing, he’ll pinch hit some games and maybe he’ll play a game or two at first (Jorge Vazquez might get a September call up because of this) but other than that he won’t be doing anything.
To be honest, we never had much of a bench to begin with
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by I'mGivingYouARaise on Aug 7, 2011 6:58 PM EDT up reply actions
I miss 2009.
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by I'mGivingYouARaise on Aug 7, 2011 7:04 PM EDT up reply actions
Why did you get all that?
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by I'mGivingYouARaise on Aug 7, 2011 7:05 PM EDT up reply actions
Yankees for now will stick with the “status quo” meaning Montero staying in the minors.
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by I'mGivingYouARaise on Aug 7, 2011 7:02 PM EDT up reply actions
holy screwjob
We’re just going to carry a guy with no position? And not call up someone who could help? What the balls?
by long time listener on Aug 7, 2011 7:11 PM EDT reply actions
Wait!
They’re going to try different things with Posada!
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They could try DFAing him. That seems like an interesting opportunity.
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by Jedi Master A-Rod on Aug 7, 2011 7:15 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I hope it doesnt come to that
I would rather Jorge comes to his senses and calls it a career
Should you choose to test my resolve in this matter, you will be facing a finality beyond your comprehension, and you will not be counting days, or months, or years, but milleniums in a place with no doors.
if he retires, he loses the rest of his salary
The best-case scenario is that he gracefully accepts getting DFA’d.
by long time listener on Aug 7, 2011 7:19 PM EDT up reply actions
He loses two months worth of salary, im sure he wont be applying for welfare if he left now.
Besides, im pretty sure the Yanks would probably be more than willing to pay him to go home. They dont mind paying Igawa to stay in the minors,lol.
Should you choose to test my resolve in this matter, you will be facing a finality beyond your comprehension, and you will not be counting days, or months, or years, but milleniums in a place with no doors.
well, that's what gracefully accepted the DFA accomplishes
And while I’m sure Jorge can accept the financial hit, he has no reason to do that.
by long time listener on Aug 7, 2011 7:23 PM EDT up reply actions
I would think retiring would feel better than being DFAd especially to a guy with ego and pride like Jorge
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Like...playing 1st when Tex doesn't, which is almost never?
Taking up space on an already awfully short bench is dumb.
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by WhatwouldJeterdo on Aug 7, 2011 7:16 PM EDT up reply actions
I guess, and I completely agree. I really doubt they’ll do anything besides play him at first.
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by WhatwouldJeterdo on Aug 7, 2011 7:21 PM EDT up reply actions
True
He could be one of the YMCA guys maybe.
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Jorge has got to see the writing on the wall
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Maybe Jorge will call another presser tonight
This time announcing his retirement
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Doesn’t sound like he will tonight.
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Jorge seems to have learned from the last debacle
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How did he learn from it when he was never actually forced to do what he didn't want to do?
If this is the last we’ve heard from him about it, maybe we can say he realized that making a spectacle of himself was childish. I’m not sure it is, though.
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by WhatwouldJeterdo on Aug 7, 2011 7:26 PM EDT up reply actions
He is handling things better this time around
I know being he is struggling, most here hate the guy, but im sure the effort is there. Its sad watching guys that were once pretty good struggle at the end. Its got to be hard giving up something you love. Lets at least appreciate all the effort Jorge has put in during his Yankee career, as I believe this is the beginning of the end.
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Not this hate crap again.
Knowing someone shouldn’t be playing anymore isn’t hating them.
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by WhatwouldJeterdo on Aug 7, 2011 7:38 PM EDT up reply actions
I want Jorge to retire as much as everybody else but if you look in the threads
Everytime this guy makes an out, its awful. Its like people think he is trying to make outs. I really feel bad for the savior when he gets here because its going to be hard to live up to the expectations.
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It's awful because he has played awful.
He shouldn’t have still been DHing when he can’t hit. That doesn’t mean people hate him, that means people recognize he’s hurting the team more than he’s helping them.
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by WhatwouldJeterdo on Aug 7, 2011 7:44 PM EDT up reply actions
Jorge isnt the one putting himself in the lineup though
Be pissed at the guy making the lineup, not at the guy struggling. Who even knows what kind of politics go on behind the scenes anymore.
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People are pissed at Joe.
And Jorge has brought a lot of it on himself when he refused to do what was best for the team when he was told to. He’s not going to get much slack for that.
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by WhatwouldJeterdo on Aug 7, 2011 7:48 PM EDT up reply actions
So now that the problem is rectified, it hasnt changed a darn thing
Lets see, get Jorge out of here – check
Find something new to complain about…..Chavez at DH – check
The Yankees gave everybody what they wanted, no Jorge in the lineup, yet the complaining continues.
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Jorge cannot field or hit. He is taking up 1 of the spots on a bench that's extremely thin.
That’s 100 kinds of stupid. So no, they have fixed very little. It cannot be explained any more clearly than that.
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by WhatwouldJeterdo on Aug 7, 2011 7:54 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Maybe its not a fix but it at least is pointing in the right direction
Instead of just trotting him out there, they are finally admitting the guy is useless and a move like this puts him one step closer to the door. Wouldnt you agree?
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Sorry Jesus, you're not as good as someone who can't hit OR field.
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by WhatwouldJeterdo on Aug 7, 2011 7:16 PM EDT up reply actions
I really dont think thats what they are thinking
Its a delicate situation with a long tenured player. I hope Chavez doesnt struggle at all, he will get Martin/Jorge like hate if he does.
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No, because it's not that at all.
Chavez is needed on defense, which he can’t do as the DH.
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by WhatwouldJeterdo on Aug 7, 2011 7:22 PM EDT up reply actions
difference is we knew that Chavez is a backup
why he’s DHing now is pure stupidity. Posada was supposed to be the starting DH, Martin the starting C. Both have stunk for almost the entire season.
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Doesnt Chavez have health issues though?
I recall Chavez always winning the gold glove at third, im thinking the only reason he is here instead of being a starting 3B somewhere else is due to his inability to stay healthy. Let him DH, Nunez is younger and needs the work.
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by long time listener on Aug 7, 2011 7:35 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
He got hurt running the bases before, so if he plays, he runs the risk of being injured.
It’s not like anyone is saying he should play 3B forever. Just until A-Rod is back.
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by WhatwouldJeterdo on Aug 7, 2011 7:37 PM EDT up reply actions
So what is the big deal if he DHs?
Other than the fear that it keeps Montero off the roster, which is completely nuts.
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He’s better in the field.
Unless you're a pitcher or Gustavo Molina, kindly SWING THE BAT and ignore the Binder's bunt signal.
This.
It’s really not hard to understand. Playing someone who is good on defense at DH indefinitely takes away their usefulness on defense.
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by WhatwouldJeterdo on Aug 7, 2011 7:43 PM EDT up reply actions
I know but the guy is an injury waiting to happen
If he gets hurt, it doesnt mean Montero comes up. It will mean more Jorge. Pick your poison,lol.
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It has nothing to do with Montero, my goodness.
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by WhatwouldJeterdo on Aug 7, 2011 7:45 PM EDT up reply actions
I just dont understand
PSA bitches that Jorge is in the lineup, now that he is finally removed, there is a new thing to complain about. Is it really that huge an issue if Nunez plays the field while the older injury plagued guy DHs? It wasn that long ago where everybody was praising Nunez and his improved defense.
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You are still missing the point.
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by WhatwouldJeterdo on Aug 7, 2011 7:51 PM EDT up reply actions
The point is, there is a better chance the older guy with a history of injury problems gets hurt in the field than at DH
That doesnt make any sense to you?
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No, that isn't the point.
Chavez is a really good defender who should be used for his defense instead of DHing full time. That’s the point.
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by WhatwouldJeterdo on Aug 7, 2011 7:55 PM EDT up reply actions
I know but the guy is an injury waiting to happen
And now he’s going to be rotating between 3B and DH until A-Rod comes back, making him a near everyday player. That’s scary.
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by Jedi Master A-Rod on Aug 7, 2011 7:45 PM EDT up reply actions
Its not scary if they protect him from injury
The guy can hit, and he can defend, its his health that has always been the problem.
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How do they protect him?
Give him a shield? Have an automatic runner run for him? Have Harry Potter put a spell on him? Have him field inside a bubble?
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He missed MONTHS from just running the bases.
He still has to do that as a DH. Playing every day only increases the chances. It’s hardly protecting him from anything.
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by WhatwouldJeterdo on Aug 7, 2011 7:58 PM EDT up reply actions
PROTEGO
Unless you're a pitcher or Gustavo Molina, kindly SWING THE BAT and ignore the Binder's bunt signal.
I dont even know im bothering, the people in charge obviously see it my way
How does Nunez benefit more from being a DH than from being in the field trying to improve his defense?
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Guh
That’s not even remotely close to what my point is. I’ll say this: Chavez cannot be an every day player. Chavez should not play more than 3-4 days a week, and he is a defensive wizard. Play Chavez 1 game at 3rd and maybe bench Nunez for that game. Chavez gets 2-3 at DH. Who DH’s the other 3?
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I never said never play Chavez at 3B, all I said was I understand why they want him DHing
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Jones at DH, Chavez at 3B, Nunez on the bench and can be put in the outfield or infield just in case. That would be more productive
Jones is entirely dependent on the handedness of the pitcher.
That’s not good for an every day DH.
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by WhatwouldJeterdo on Aug 7, 2011 8:04 PM EDT up reply actions
Our bench tonight:
Cervelli, Posada, Jones.
Awesome.
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by WhatwouldJeterdo on Aug 7, 2011 8:07 PM EDT up reply actions
I would rather let the kid play and leave Jones on the bench
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you can’t have Chavez at 3B and Nunez at DH. If Chavez is hurt we lose the DH (and that could happen at any moment)
I would have to believe the Yanks wont continue going with a three man bench
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And that is the issue.
Benching Posada is fine and good. Not bringing up someone else in that situation is dumb, because you have 1 of 3 bench players being useless.
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by WhatwouldJeterdo on Aug 7, 2011 8:10 PM EDT up reply actions
Even if Posada was hitting like Posada used to, a 3 man bench is pretty dumb
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Of course, but a 2 man bench is worse.
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by WhatwouldJeterdo on Aug 7, 2011 8:13 PM EDT up reply actions
he's still a good 3B
he should be playing there
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I never once said he wasnt a good 3B, hes probably the best defensive 3B on our roster
I believe they are DHing him to try to avoid an injury. Id also be very surprised if he didnt still play some 3B till ARod comes back.
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The only way he'll avoid injury is if they pinch run for him every time he's on base
since you can’t do that, you can’t protect him.
Playing 3B, he’s not gonna get hurt.
Last night, a comedian died in New York. Somebody knows why. Somebody knows
So playing 3B isnt more of a probability of gettin hurt or tweaking his back?
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No.
Swinging the bat or running around the bases is.
Last night, a comedian died in New York. Somebody knows why. Somebody knows
So basically, he can’t hit and he can’t field, so he gets a roster spot. Got it.
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by Frank Campagnola on Aug 7, 2011 7:29 PM EDT reply actions
chavez dh indefinitely
Posada taking up bench space…jesus still not called up….
Why is a defensive specialist in Chavez dhing…..jesus pissed someone off….
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by NYYWinsRings27 on Aug 7, 2011 7:54 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
I so called this today.
In “The Future” thread, I said when A-Rod gets back the DH should be split between Chavez/Nunez depending on the handedness of the pitcher. The FO so reads PSA.
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by Ella Grace on Aug 7, 2011 7:55 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
Maybe a protest outside Yankee Stadium would prompt a Montero call up.
We could all be Jesus Freaks.
I'm fine with Chavez as DH
Less likely to get hurt as a DH for one, but the other thing is Nunez is supposed to have a future as a Yankee, Chavez not so much.
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