Fire Joe Girardi, Part 4
by jscape2000 on Jul 7, 2011 11:01 AM EDT
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PrintI do this about once, sometimes twice a year. I lose perspective.
You see, a manager has very little power over the outcome of a game. Unlike basketball, football or hockey, a brilliant manager cannot design a play that neutralizes the opponent's strength or compensates for his team's weaknesses. A baseball manager fills out the lineup card (usually with 8 or 9 of the same names as last night) and hopes that tonight's starter (who has usually known this would be his night for a week or two) pitches a good game.
The one thing a manager can control, though, is when to wave the white flag.
Sergio Mitre is a kind of white flag.
He can pitch; I don't think Mitre is worthless. I don't think he's just heaving meatballs over the plate, begging every hitter in the league to tee off. I've seen the good Mitre: who pitched 23 innings last August and September, allowing 24 baserunners against 10 Ks. He's not Mariano Rivera, not David Robertson, not even a Joba Chamberlain.
Mitre is a league average pitcher, and league average pitchers have significant value, especially when they are cheap and fungible. Like the ex you call when you're bored on Saturday night, you use them while they're your best option and then drop them as soon as someone better comes along.
So my anger can't be with Sergio Mitre. He is what he is.
My anger is with Joe Girardi for prefering Mitre when the Yankees have better options in Scranton (Ivan Nova, Kevin Whelan, Adam Warren, George Kontos). My anger is with Brian Cashman for not having more faith in his farm system.
If Mitre is what he is, then at least the prospects are what they could be; a loss like last night's is a learning experience, it's a big situation the pitcher needs to slow down, it's a game plan being refined on the fly. As much as I try to resist narratives for the way they dictate our perception of future events I know that I would feel better with a rookie on the mound. It would help make last night's loss (and concurrent series loss) a little easier to bear.
To calm myself, I'm trying to focus on Q-TDSK's extraordinarily salient observation:
In retrospect, Mitre's outing is what brought Pestano in and made the rally possible (And that actually makes it all the more infuriating.)
I didn't watch the post-game, but I'll bet that David Robertson was the closer again last night; Mariano Rivera's sore tricep is certainly worse than advertised. So I'm trying to tell myself that Girardi's hands were tied.
But there's a part of me that wants blood in exchange for the pain I've suffered. Fire Joe Girardi for his game management and his roster building. If Mitre was Brian Cashman's idea, then fire him, too. Get this dead weight, these mediocre pitchers, these mop-up men off the roster. Until the team is healthy, let the kids lose important games.
At least it would make me feel better.
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I was uneasy when Mitre was released because I felt quite certain the Yankees would pick him up. This is pretty inexplicable, and I wish some of the beat writers would ask Cashman or Girardi what Sergio’s doing pitching important innings.
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by Hasan Paliwala on Jul 7, 2011 11:10 AM EDT via mobile reply actions
I agree
What you are getting is about on par, maybe a tad below, but the potential upside is 30 times what mitre is
Remember when I was Lance Pendleton's biggest fan? Back to reality.
While I agree with you for the most part, I don't like the idea of Nova to teh pen
There are plenty of bullpen options in SWB who aren’t tied for the lead in wins on the parent team.
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It was such a relief when he was dealt this spring – for some reason Girardi has this unshakeable relationship with former Cubs, ie Harkey, but I don’t understand it with Mitre. Hopefully, he will not be allowed to give away any of the Tampa games & maybe, maybe the wisdom of the Milwaukee decision can be seen.
maybe I'm just in a sour mood today
But I can’t help wonder why I’m spending so much time knocking my brains out caring about this team – and sports in general – when it’s not clear that the players, managers and executives don’t seem to care as much. I mean, obviously they care to a great extent. It’s not easy to make it to the big leagues in any capacity, and just being presentable on the field takes a ton of effort, in addition to the natural talents a person has.
But then you see Girardi and Cashman recycling these mop-up men when there are better – and even cheaper – options, and it doesn’t look like they’re putting any thought into it at all. It feels like they know Sergio Mitre, they saw he was available, and went with what’s comfortable. For all the time, effort, and money that I put into caring about this, can’t they sit down and think about whether it’s a good idea to use Mitre, a guy who was so-so in the AL Central, to try to get hitters out in the AL in a still-winnable game?
by long time listener on Jul 7, 2011 11:29 AM EDT reply actions
Respectfully disagree.
Mitre is NOT a league-average pitcher… he’s a little LESS than REPLACEMENT VALUE. I’m pretty sure that means he’s about as good as plucking a decent (but not standout) AAA pitcher from the farm and transplanting him onto the major league roster… and he’s a little WORSE than that.
NOT league average.
I understand how you can disagree
By WAR, Mitre has been replacement level over the last 3 seasons, but I am very suspicious of WAR for pitchers. It makes a number of assumptions that I don’t like, especially around the value of an inning pitched per out (equalizing all innings and production over those innings, when intuitively I understand that flexibility and durability in the pen and length in the rotation all have a value greater than just the total innings).
But the last 3 seasons Mitre’s WHIP has been league average (1.34 vs 1.35 2010), better than average control (2.7 BB/9 vs 3.2 2010), but below average K/9 (4.9 vs 6.8 2010).
That’s my rationale for calling Mitre league average. You don’t have to agree, but I want you (and everyone) to understand my reasoning. I thought it through before calling him average.
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One more thing.
A manager actually does have some influence on the course of a game. If he tosses a less-than-replacement-value pitcher on the mound in a close game, he’s dramatically reducing the odds of his team winning.
More Cashman than Girardi ...
Could it be Cashman and the powers that be believe that the Yankees AAA and AA stars are overly hyped and inflated? Could that possibly be the reason why Cashman doesn’t seem willing to take a flier on some of his AAA pitching? Are you telling me, Cash, that Mitre is your very best available option? If this is so, then our AAA system is all smoke and mirrors. Is your heralded “rebuild” our farm system a sham in reality?
I have real questions about several of the Yankees latest moves. Nova to the minors was ridiculous… But signing Mitre is a major red flag to me!
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He was 4-0 in his last five starts with a ERA under 3.15
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by seton hall and steelers on Jul 7, 2011 1:19 PM EDT up reply actions
Teh Winz and ERA!!!
Anyone up for a CFL fantasy league?
ERA does mean SOMETHING
Know what a dude with a really low WHiP and high ERA means? Higher chance your team loses. Know what a dude with an elevated WHiP and low ERA means? Magic. But regardless, the second results in more wins. It just isn’t sustainable over a long stretch. Just because some of the newer tracked stats have some real correlation to effectiveness it doesn’t negate ERA’s value as an indicator of performance. Now Wins… that is a number that can be take with a grain of salt. Pitcher cannot control how his team hits.
by HappyLuckyGoldenDragonNumber1! on Jul 7, 2011 4:19 PM EDT up reply actions
Problem with ERA = Pitcher can’t control how his team fields.
Unless you're a pitcher or Gustavo Molina, kindly SWING THE BAT and ignore the Binder's bunt signal.
Yes
But the pitcher does have some control/input into (responsibility for) the balls that have to be fielded and more importantly, when the balls are fielded poorly the runs are unearned so they don’t count in the stat.
Not necessarily. How about the double play ball that was botched the other day in Cleveland? That SHOULD have ended the inning but because the Indians 1B booted it, it didn’t. He didn’t get an error. The runs were earned.
Unless you're a pitcher or Gustavo Molina, kindly SWING THE BAT and ignore the Binder's bunt signal.
I see your point
But on the other hand there are many phenomenal plays that save runs and end innings.
ERA isn’t perfect. Overall, the good and the bad plays average out. And it is after all only one measure of performance, not the only measure of performance.
Tell that to Zack Greinke
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by Jedi Master A-Rod on Jul 7, 2011 5:00 PM EDT up reply actions
Nova was pitching better
Burnett’s the worst on the team (a good thing) and Nova vs. Garcia is a wash. Nova’s been pitching better of late.
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agreed with the last part
first part is false
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There's something to this
Not that they’re smoke and mirrors, but that their value is great while they enjoy minor league success as the hype builds. Also, the “depth” of the farm system is really important in trading. To get the guy BA called #2 or #3 in the system is important for the rebuilding GM; to deflate that prospect before the July trade deadline might hurt more than hoping to win for the next 2 weeks on the strength of the offense.
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I f Mitre pitches one more inning then I will visit the park again.....
and belittle him until his head blows up and then i will do the smae to Girardi. DO those two have a “thing” or a “fling”? That is the only explanation I have.
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- O. Cabrera grounded into fielder’s choice, C. Santana out at second
I dunno that someone like Warren or Nova should be up here instead of Mitre
in the role last night, yes..they should. I hate that a 3-0 game is entrusted to some POS like Mitre, and that’s why I’m done with Girardi.
Mitre is fine to have up here in the role that apparently Noesi has, ‘mop’. Why Noesi is the mop?
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I think the answer to that is probably the same as the answer to why Whelan, et al., are not on the roster
I won’t pretend to be a mind reader. It certainly appears as though the Yankees in general, and Girardi in particular, have no confidence in their young pitchers like Noesi. Else, why would he be on the roster, but buried at the bottom of the depth chart? If they were concerned with his development, would he not be in the minors pitching more often? If they are concerned only with winning, why is Mitre pitching last night?
So, I can only conclude that they either have no confidence in their young pitching, or they feel the need to “preserve” their trade value, by not risking overexposure at the major league level. Honestly, neither makes much sense to me, I’m just trying to find theories that fit the available evidence. I agree with others here that it would be nice to have some of the beat writers that follow the team ask these questions.
by waw on Jul 7, 2011 1:04 PM EDT up reply actions
I dunno about this trade value crap
its more so that they ‘trust’ a player like Mitre instead of someone like Noesi. Mitre has numbers to place into the binder, while Noesi doesn’t. So he doesn’t know what to expect. He’s scared.
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Mitre is very predictable
Problem is that we can predict that whatever happens, it wont be good.
It is a low-risk proposition though.
Consistency isn’t always a good thing
look on the bright side
we know that once Mitre eventually leaves the team again he definitely won’t be brought back a third time once his next team releases him. RIGHT??
Mitre is a human white flag
Well put.
My only argument with this post is that by calling Mitre a league average pitcher, you are doing league average pitchers a grave disservice. Mitre has a career ERA+ of 84 and he’s been below 100 in 7 of his 8 seasons.
In game 4 of the ALCS last year, Girardi put Mitre in the 9th down 4 runs and I was livid. He promptly allowed 3 more.
Now I don’t think a regular season game should be treated the same as an ALCS game. The odds of a 3-run comeback against any pitcher, much less any closer are slim. You shouldn’t put one of your better relievers in the top of the 9th down 3-0. That’s Joe Torre stuff and it ends with pitchers walking around in the 2nd half with their arms limply dangling from their shoulders Scott Proctor-style.
But there’s a lot of wiggle room between David Robertson and Mitre. Noesi. Even Wade who has pitched well.
I think ultimately, the problem isnt that Girardi gave up down 3-0 last night or down 4 runs in the ALCS last year. The problem is that Girardi has some bizarre misguided faith in Mitre and he actually believes that in certain spots, Mitre is the best option.
Unless the situation is that one Yankee pitcher must be tossed into a volcano to appease the gods, Mitre is never the best option.
by Let's Talk About Tex Baby on Jul 7, 2011 12:41 PM EDT reply actions 3 recs
Honestly, there’s nothing wrong with the last guy out of your pen being terrible. It isn’t of much consequence if the guy you give the lowest leverage innings to isn’t very good. You’re not going to get consistent innings there and it’s definitely not the place for a quality starting pitching prospect like Warren or Phelps.
The Yankees have had 21 games this year be decided by 5+ runs. Inherent in those games are low leverage innings where it’s perfectly fine to have a cheap piece of cannon fodder in your bullpen that you can march out to throw strikes and get the game over with instead of wasting bullets in a more valued arm. Again, not the type of work you want a top starting pitching prospect to be doing, but someone has to pitch those innings, and it makes sense for a cheap retread like Mitre to get the job.
Sergio Mitre being on the roster is fine. But, he can’t pitch in games that are yet to be fully decided. When Mitre entered the game, Fangraphs had the Indians at a 93.6% chance of winning the game. That’s pretty close to the borderline of when it makes sense to punt a game and save your arms, but I’d much much rather have seen Hector Noesi, and can’t for the life of me imagine how he is lower in the Binder than Mire.
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by The Last Shall Become First on Jul 7, 2011 1:55 PM EDT reply actions
Manager
As the manager of a good team it is hard to do something win games you should lose. But a bad manager can certainly lose games his teams should win. Not playing your best players, not setting the batting order correctly, not using your relief core properly etc. Girardi has made all these mistakes to cost us victories.
Above everything else
I’m much more pissed at Cashman than anyone else. Girardi couldn’t serve Mitre if Cashman didn’t resign him for some godforsaken reason. Sure, Girardi seems to have an IGYAR-GGBG man-crush on Mitre, but if Cashman is trying to actually appease that satanic love, then something is terribly wrong in this organization.
And like I said last night, what worries me the most about this & what happens if Phil Hughes does not come back and pitch well in his next few starts, is that I think Cashman is stupid enough to try and trade our farm system away to fix these “problems.” He might actually consider something like Jesus & Nova for Wandy Rodriguez or something like that.
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by I'mGivingYouARaise on Jul 7, 2011 2:27 PM EDT reply actions
I blame Girardi way more.
Cashman gave him a mop up man. Someone to use when the game was far out of reach, not in a winnable game. Having someone who isn’t very good to pitch when the game is basically decided is fine, but using them in a 3-0 game is unforgivable. Having Mitre higher on the depth chart than Noesi is unforgivable. That’s all on Joe.
It's like being a huge fan of winning, which we do, relentlessly.
by WhatwouldJeterdo on Jul 7, 2011 2:51 PM EDT up reply actions
But if Mitre isn't on the team
Maybe he actually goes to Noesi instead (he doesn’t, which is fucking sad). Plus how many more mop-up men does Cashman have to hand Girardi? Does Farce Fakenamington do a worse job than Mitre? Or My Buddy? Or Ayala? Or any of the other mops this team has put together to form the fucking Mighty Moppin’ Power Rangers? Especially re-signing one who has a history of being fucking awful on the very same team he was already DFA’d from once before.
I’m not excusing Girardi in this, cause you’re right. Using Mitre in that situation is pretty much surrendering. But the fact that Mitre and these other deals with the devil are on this team to begin with pisses me off even more.
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by I'mGivingYouARaise on Jul 7, 2011 3:00 PM EDT up reply actions
Cashman definitely shares blame, and if he's ok with how Girardi used Mitre, he's a moron too.
Mitre shouldn’t be on the team, but since he is, he definitely shouldn’t be pitching any game that could be considered winnable. The fact that Joe lets him is inexcusable. Not surprising at all, because I knew he would, but inexcusable.
It's like being a huge fan of winning, which we do, relentlessly.
by WhatwouldJeterdo on Jul 7, 2011 3:17 PM EDT up reply actions
Well that goes into my whole problem with the mops in general...
Every game is winnable until that final out. That’s why I love baseball so much because it has no time limit (despite me bitching like a bitch about it when working cause I’m a spoiled ass). 8-0 in the 4th inning, hell in the 7th or 8th inning still gives a team a chance to come back, especially a team with as good of an offense as the Yankees. So the idea of bringing in these mediocre pitchers to begin with when a starter has a bad outing is just upsetting. Bringing him in only down by 3 is unforgivable, like you said, but it sucks regardless.
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by I'mGivingYouARaise on Jul 7, 2011 3:23 PM EDT up reply actions
Well, on the calm side of all of this, at least as a fanbase...
We don’t have to worry about our All Star Shortstop, who is going to sit for 3 weeks, possibly being out for the season due to one of the worst medical staffs in all of baseball.
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by I'mGivingYouARaise on Jul 7, 2011 3:12 PM EDT reply actions
In this case, the Mets bungling medical staff could actually help them
Nothing kills free agent value like a lengthy injury to a player with a reputation for being injury prone.
by Let's Talk About Tex Baby on Jul 7, 2011 3:19 PM EDT up reply actions
Valid point
I just wonder if scouts take into consideration the team’s medical staff when looking at a player and their injury history.
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by I'mGivingYouARaise on Jul 7, 2011 3:24 PM EDT up reply actions
I don't get Girardi's fascination with Mitre, but I can't get that worked up over it
I am open to the possibility that Girardi (and Cashman) have reasons for doing what they are doing, and I recognize that whatever their reasons are they have no duty to explain them to me (and providing an explanation may not be in the best interests of the baseball team). The corollary is that the lack of an explanation presented doesn’t mean that there isn’t one.
And the one consistent fact of all baseball managers and GM’s, is that they are all f’n morons. Every last one. At least if you read each team’s blogs and fan sites.
yup
we’ll just have to accept there’s a perfecting good reason to pitch Sergio Mitre in a 3-0 game. Go get em skip!
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That there might be a good reason, yes.
Because a manager’s focus should be on winning more games over a season, with the players he has available, then on any one game. There are many, many possible reasons for using a player in a particular situation. Some of them are obvious, some are not. When Mitre comes in the game I’m not particularly happy about it, but I’m sure hoping that it works out best for the Yankees.
There’s nothing wrong with trying to figure out what the hell they are thinking when they do [x] – but a little humility wouldn’t hurt. There were fans calling for Granderson’s head last year, and the Yankees stuck with him despite the fact that he sucked. And now they have a top MVP candidate. Luck? Genius? The Yankees stuck with Posada and Swisher through some awful times, and both players repayed them with a strong month of June. Luck? Genius?
The fans calling for Grandy's head are rightfully ridiculed and have shut their collective wagoning holes
Sergio Mitre is Sergio Mitre. He’s proven over his career that he won’t keep you in games, he’’ll put them out of reach for you.
There is no excuse, no magic binder, no reason to accept it…its just fucking nuts. Plain, flat out insanity to put Sergio Mitre in a game that you want to stay in.
Its about winning over the long haul, yea. But you win over the long haul by winning individual games. Putting Sergio fucking Mitre in a 3-0 game more times then not, doesn’t give you a chance to come back.
Its not that they lost that game. Its that they (the manager) didn’t put them in the best position to win. There’s no reason to use Mitre there unless everyone was hurt.
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Girardi who?
By the way you are incorrect. The great Connie Mack put it best when he said and I paraphrase… A manager can only count for about 15 games a year, but that’s what cost us the pennant.
Haven’t you noticed that ever since the arrival of Joe the Shmoe, we are becoming the Chicago Cubs ( note the last time they won a WS) To begin, Laryy Rothschild, Kerry Wood , Mark Pryor, Chris Dickerson, Carlos (tarnished) Silva, and dare I go on?
The love affair with Sergio Mitre is just one of the quirks(like a bad penny or pitcher , he keeps turning up).
If George were alive , he would be firing everyone by now. The “Boss” was a winner , these guys are scramblers with not an ounce of baseball sense
We won a WS in 2009
so we’re not the Cubs, but you’re a boob
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Wood – gone
Pryor – nowhere
Dickerson – bit player
Silva – gone
Rothschild – the only former Cub you managed who is playing any kind of meaningful role this season. And considering that the Yankees have been pretty good at pitching this season, this doesn’t strengthen your “case” at all.
But, cool story, bro
by waw on Jul 7, 2011 4:39 PM EDT up reply actions
Dickerson – never played for the Cubs
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by Jedi Master A-Rod on Jul 7, 2011 4:42 PM EDT up reply actions
No doubt Cincinnati and Chicago are indistinguishable to most of you East Coasters ;-)
by waw on Jul 7, 2011 4:45 PM EDT up reply actions
If the Boss was such a "winner"
How come the best Yankee teams during his tenure were built … while he wasn’t actively involved? The team of the 70’s was largely built by Gabe Paul while George was doing time for campaign finance crime (although George does get credit for signing Reggie). Then George kicked over the table, dumping players he didn’t like and hiring every big name free agent he could land – and ruined the team. After getting suspended from baseball for the unfortunate incident involving hiring a PI to dig up dirt on his own player, Gene Michael was able to rebuild the farm system and produced the 1996-2001 dynasty. Then George got involved again, dumping players he didn’t like and hiring every big name free agent he could land. The result? No titles. Then as George faded out of the scene due to health issues, Cashman started rebuilding the franchise again. The result? Another title in 2009.
I’d more worried about Hank trying to out-do Daddy (Rafael Soriano, anyone?) and kicking the table over on the current Yankee version than I am with pining away for the “good old days” of George III.
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Sorry whomever you are that wrote this article. But, the teams of the late 90’s were all over the hill last chance guys that won because of a desire to be champs. The team that had 2 perfect games thrown and a no hitter in one season was full of re-treaded guys that were underachievers. Lightening in a bottle anyone? Darryl Strawberry, Scott Brosious, Wade Boggs,(hell even at his elder age), Charlie Hayes, are names that come to mind. Not to mention David Wells (Semi-Peak of Career), David Cone (end of the road), and finally even the relievers Nelson and Leyritz were all guys that were at the end of their ropes. George brought these names for little to nothing which is what Cashman is doing this season with the retreads of Garcia and Colon. Seriously Colon has been damn near flawless in the last two or three starts. However, I can’t believe that fans are jumping on Girardi. The Fans in NYC should be demanding that Torre be brought back. Or better yet why not Lou Pinella. After all he is running talent scouting and would be the best fit for the NYC area.
In all honesty, give Girardi a pass on last playoff season, once Texiera went down the entire Yankees team went down with him. It was sad to see but, it was the way it was because the Yankees rely still on too many long ball guys to be in sync during the playoffs. What did win games for them in the 90’s was simple a mixture of manufacturing runs from station to station and quality good pitching with guys that were on the hill effectively affecting the outcomes of players swinging the sticks.
Girardi has no veterans on his team. CC is still a kid in my eyes, Colon is a vet but, has had three stints in the MLB, Garcia is in the air to be on the roster if they get close in the playoffs. As well, losing Andy Pettite after seeing Cliff Lee falter to the Phillies did the Yankees organization no favors. But, that was really the Steinbreiners’ fault. The Phillies and Lee knew all along that Lee was going back after that whopping trade and that was what caused the Yankees to bid for nothing and to lose out on a quality outfielder like Vernon Wells or even Carl Crawford. The Yankees are screwed for many years with pitching but I just hope that Jesus Montero doesn’t get dumped for pitchers that are one and done.
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by Jedi Master A-Rod on Jul 7, 2011 5:38 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
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Unless you're a pitcher or Gustavo Molina, kindly SWING THE BAT and ignore the Binder's bunt signal.
1st Place. Fire the manager
Someone said “I don’t get the fascination with Mitre…”.
I don’t get the fascination with our farm system.
Yeah I understand “Fire Girardi” just “dramatically” frames the argument for bringing up bush leaguers instead of major league mops – but that doesn’t mean it doesn’t get tiresome.
Scranton…. Trenton… whatevr. Leave ‘em down there until Cash and crew decide they are ready. Frankly, unless they are in pinstripes in the Bronx, I’m not impressed with anyone or any number down there. Including the son of god.
Fire Joe Girardi? Geeesh. Unbelievable.
Huh?
Scranton…. Trenton… whatevr. Leave ‘em down there until Cash and crew decide they are ready. Frankly, unless they are in pinstripes in the Bronx, I’m not impressed with anyone or any number down there. Including the son of god.
…How are they supposed to make it to your “I can now be impressed” place if they aren’t noticed in the minors? Do you never call anyone up? Ever?
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Of course you call em up. Eventually. When needed. But I didn’t like the “blame it on Girardi” frame. We’re in 1st. (We’re losing 5 nuthin tonite and Sux winning… but, dammit!)
You whippersnappers are killin me. Gonna have some sarsaparilla and call it a night. Listen to my Victrola.
Can we play more interleague games? That's what put us in first place.
Playing real teams is what what just put us out.
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