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Game 82 Preview: Yankees vs. Mets

After defeating the cross-town "rivals" 5-2 yesterday, and for the fourth consecutive time this season, the Yankees look to sweep away the Mets before Derek Jeter rejoins the team in Cleveland. 

Yankees starting lineup: 1) Brett Gardner LF, 2) Curtis Granderson CF, 3) Mark Teixeira 1B, 4) Alex Rodriguez 3B, 5) Robinson Cano 2B, 6) Nick Swisher RF, 7) Russell Martin C, 8) Ramiro Pena SS, 9) Freddy Garcia P

Mets starting lineup: 1) Angel Pagan CF, 2) Justin Turner 2B, 3) Carlos Beltran RF, 4) Daniel Murphy 3B, 5) Jason Bay LF, 6) Lucas Duda 1B, 7) Josh Thole C, 8) Ruben Tejada SS, 9) R.A. Dickey P 

Today, Freddy Garcia will attempt to conjure up a correct balance of smoke and mirrors in order to beat the Mets. R.A. Dickey will oppose him. 

Garcia is coming off a passable start at the stadium. He went 6.0 innings, allowing two runs on eight hits and only striking out one. It's an understatement to say that the defense behind him and the bats picked him up. He had a great June, even despite his start against Boston, allowing only 10 runs in 28.1 innings (6 runs in 26.2 innings if you turn a bling eye to the Boston game). 

Knuckleballer Dickey is also coming off of a fantastic June for a team that is expected to hover around the .500 plateau all season long. In his five games, he averaged 7.0 innings per outing and only 2 earned runs in each as well. Dickey pitched against the Yankees at the stadium earlier this season in the only game the Mets won, pitching 6.0 innings and allowing one run. 

Garcia vs. current Mets

Dickey vs. current Yankees

Notes: 

1) A wild Lance Pendleton has appeared at Citi Field. A move is forthcoming. Yes, more mop-up men. 

2) Eduardo Nunez is out of the lineup with a tight hamstring. It's a shame, he's playing fantastic baseball right now. 

3) Here is your weather report for today's game. Looks like thunderstorms/rain on and off. 

Game thread will be up at 1:00pm. 

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After defeating the cross-town “rivals” 5-0 yesterday

So…Are we now totally disregarding Sergio altogether? It’s probably for the best.

I bet it's good to be playing again, huh?

by david d on Jul 3, 2011 11:48 AM EDT reply actions  

I thought that trend might catch on. You foiled my plans.

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by Chris McKeown on Jul 3, 2011 11:52 AM EDT up reply actions  

Are Dickey's

numbers from May or June? A bit confused because you talked about Garcia’s June but Dickey’s May.

by phonty on Jul 3, 2011 11:52 AM EDT reply actions  

I apologize. Brandon’s post didn’t come out how it was supposed to and I typed this as fast as I could to get it out. It’s supposed to be his June. “May” is a typo.

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by Chris McKeown on Jul 3, 2011 11:54 AM EDT up reply actions  

What happened with my preview?

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by Brandon C. on Jul 3, 2011 1:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

It was deja vu all over again

I bet it's good to be playing again, huh?

by david d on Jul 3, 2011 1:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

Not sure I understand.

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If you don't love David Robertson and Brett Gardner I don't love you.

by Brandon C. on Jul 3, 2011 1:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

ha

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by long time listener on Jul 3, 2011 12:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

Hahaha

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by I'mGivingYouARaise on Jul 3, 2011 12:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

Lotsa power in this lineup.

I bet it's good to be playing again, huh?

by david d on Jul 3, 2011 12:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

What was the final vote for catching?

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by Chris McKeown on Jul 3, 2011 12:09 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

wow

Lance Berkman was elected to start in the OF for the NL.

by long time listener on Jul 3, 2011 12:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

He's had a hell of a season on offense.

It's like being a huge fan of winning, which we do, relentlessly.

by WhatwouldJeterdo on Jul 3, 2011 12:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

I knew he was having a good year

I didn’t know it was that good. Glad to see the puma can still pounce.

by long time listener on Jul 3, 2011 12:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

Congrats to Alex Avila.

He deserved it.

You, on the other hand, Jeter, don’t deserve it and should give up your spot.

by ultimate913 on Jul 3, 2011 12:08 PM EDT reply actions  

They moved Mauer to 1B?

Damn.

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by Hasan Paliwala on Jul 3, 2011 12:09 PM EDT reply actions  

Needs to be permanent

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by Jedi Master A-Rod on Jul 3, 2011 12:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

With his health, it probably will be

If not immediately, then eventually. But that contract might look like a bitch.

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by Hasan Paliwala on Jul 3, 2011 12:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

It's funny

In one of my one or two comments I’ve ever left at TwinkieTown, before the season even started I said Mauer should be put at 1st and Morneau should be the DH to help prevent injury and to prolong both of their careers. They, of course, shot me down and basically said it was an absurd idea. Long story short, I’ve noticed since the injuries to both they’ve all been screaming for this move.

I bet it's good to be playing again, huh?

by david d on Jul 3, 2011 12:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

Haha. Go back and gloat if you feel like it.

Just kidding, but I can sense their reasoning. You want to bury your head in the sand on potential injuries.

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by Hasan Paliwala on Jul 3, 2011 12:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

Wait, Tex in the HR derby but no Grandy?

I’d rather have seen Grandy there, personally. Bautista, A-Gon and Ortiz are there.

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by Hasan Paliwala on Jul 3, 2011 12:14 PM EDT reply actions  

Not me

I’m kinda superstitious about the HR Derby. Seems to have not served several players well over the years. Grandy’s swing is good right now, don’t want it messed with.

I bet it's good to be playing again, huh?

by david d on Jul 3, 2011 12:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'll buy that

Maybe Tex should withdraw too.

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by Hasan Paliwala on Jul 3, 2011 12:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

At the buffet

I bet it's good to be playing again, huh?

by david d on Jul 3, 2011 12:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

Cabrera and Gonzalez are more deserving honestly

and they pry can’t have too many players from one team, hence CC, Robertson, and Gardner. Unfortunately Jeter pry cost one of them a spot.

by Monotonousblob on Jul 3, 2011 12:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm never that disappointed that a starter doesn't make it

CC is deserving, him getting a couple of extra days of rest isn’t a bad thing.

by long time listener on Jul 3, 2011 12:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

This

Exactly. I’d rather none of our pitchers get selected, or at least not pitch in the game.

I bet it's good to be playing again, huh?

by david d on Jul 3, 2011 12:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

Plus he starts on Sunday, I believe.

He wouldn’t be eligible to pitch.

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by WhatwouldJeterdo on Jul 3, 2011 12:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

Papelbum didn't make it?

I bet it's good to be playing again, huh?

by david d on Jul 3, 2011 12:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

Are you surprised?

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by Chris McKeown on Jul 3, 2011 12:22 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Good. He needs the rest

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by Jedi Master A-Rod on Jul 3, 2011 12:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think both Yankees & Mets fans can agree on one thing...

HURRAY FOR THIS NOT BEING AN ESPN GAME!

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by I'mGivingYouARaise on Jul 3, 2011 12:20 PM EDT reply actions  

+1

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by Hasan Paliwala on Jul 3, 2011 12:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

out?

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by Rorschach44 on Jul 3, 2011 12:26 PM EDT reply actions  

Nova for Pendelton? The fuck is this nonsense?

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by Jedi Master A-Rod on Jul 3, 2011 12:33 PM EDT reply actions  

Need moar mop-upz!

Unless you're a pitcher or Gustavo Molina, kindly SWING THE BAT and ignore the Binder's bunt signal.

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by Andrew GM on Jul 3, 2011 12:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

Huh? What happened?

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by I'mGivingYouARaise on Jul 3, 2011 12:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

Nova to SWB. Pendelton recalled.

Dumb

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by Jedi Master A-Rod on Jul 3, 2011 12:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

"Dumb"

This move is beyond dumb.

I bet it's good to be playing again, huh?

by david d on Jul 3, 2011 12:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

........WHAT. THE. FUCK.

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by I'mGivingYouARaise on Jul 3, 2011 12:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

what the ass

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by Cup Noodles on Jul 3, 2011 12:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

Wow...

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by WhatwouldJeterdo on Jul 3, 2011 1:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

Also I’m assuming that Nova’s getting sent down to recall Hughes so I guess they’re just getting an extra arm.

Not that I agree with this of course.

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by Andrew GM on Jul 3, 2011 12:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

moar!!!

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by Rorschach44 on Jul 3, 2011 12:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

Mitre is a Yankee, Nova isn't

Why do we have people on this team whose job is to suck?

by Monotonousblob on Jul 3, 2011 12:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

Why do we have a front office that can't see this?

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by I'mGivingYouARaise on Jul 3, 2011 12:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

Because they’re the front office and you’re not. Do you have management experience? Huh, do you? No? Ok, then stop pretending you know who is good and who isn’t.

Also, would you mind shining my horse’s shoes? I can’t seem to reach them from all the way up here.

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by Jedi Master A-Rod on Jul 3, 2011 12:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

Why do you jump on everyone who questions a front office move?

I guess that because they have that position, they are always right. Just like politicians are always right because they’re in office. Jerk.

by SparkySaves on Jul 3, 2011 12:50 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

if you haven't noticed

this season the front office has made absolutely no sense

by jetanumba2 on Jul 3, 2011 12:52 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

i think he was agreeing with you, i think you getting a bit defensive here.

by lololol on Jul 3, 2011 12:53 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

i'm gonna rec everyone that missed the point on that

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by Rorschach44 on Jul 3, 2011 12:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

All of you failed so hard to recognize blatant sarcasm.

It's like being a huge fan of winning, which we do, relentlessly.

by WhatwouldJeterdo on Jul 3, 2011 1:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

I didn’t even try

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by Jedi Master A-Rod on Jul 3, 2011 1:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

Best team on the field!

Unless you're a pitcher or Gustavo Molina, kindly SWING THE BAT and ignore the Binder's bunt signal.

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by Andrew GM on Jul 3, 2011 12:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

Well we’re not going to DFA Garcia…Hughes needs a rotation spot. Pendleton is just a place holder for hughes since We’re not going to use Nova from the pen and rather have him continue starting

by lololol on Jul 3, 2011 12:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

Garcia started out in the pen. Nova didn't.

It’s downright insulting

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by I'mGivingYouARaise on Jul 3, 2011 12:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

I hope Hughes gives up 20 runs in 1/3 of an inning

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by Rorschach44 on Jul 3, 2011 12:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

Okay, as long as we win that game 21-20.

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by david d on Jul 3, 2011 12:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

oh no

we lose 20-0

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by Rorschach44 on Jul 3, 2011 12:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

You didn't see this coming?

This was the most likely scenario since he has options.

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by nyyrocks29 on Jul 3, 2011 12:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

it was easy to see coming

cuz they said they weren’t doing it and also cuz its the dumbest fucking option possible.

Very, very predictable

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by Rorschach44 on Jul 3, 2011 12:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

i honestly don;t think they ever said it…no way the yankees limit their options. Michael Kay was just reporting BS…again

by lololol on Jul 3, 2011 12:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

I could care less

they actually flat out said it.

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by Rorschach44 on Jul 3, 2011 12:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

Link? i want to see what they said exactly

by lololol on Jul 3, 2011 1:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

there's no online

it was what they said pre-game on the radio and during the game. Try looking that up

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by Rorschach44 on Jul 3, 2011 1:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yankees optioned RHP Ivan Nova to Triple-A Scranton/Wilkes-Barre.

Yankees recalled RHP Lance Pendleton from Triple-A Scranton/Wilkes-Barre.

Sauce

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by Jedi Master A-Rod on Jul 3, 2011 1:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

What is this option I keep hearing about? Go to the minors and accomplish nothing while guys with no future on the team/in the majors who can only regress hold up his progression?

Seems like a pretty terrible option

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by Jedi Master A-Rod on Jul 3, 2011 12:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah, I don’t get the option argument.

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by david d on Jul 3, 2011 12:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

he can go down and get regular starts

And be ready to go in case somebody else gets hurt or implodes. They can’t send down Garcia.

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by nyyrocks29 on Jul 3, 2011 12:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

they can send Garcia to the pen

since he’s better then any of the mops and also since Nova doesn’t deserve to ride the short bus in Scranton

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by Rorschach44 on Jul 3, 2011 12:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

He's already been getting regular starts

And helping this team win.

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by david d on Jul 3, 2011 12:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

and your point is?

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by david d on Jul 3, 2011 12:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

If you think it isn't fair to take Nova out because of the way he's been pitching

Then how is it fair to take out Garcia or Colon? They’ve both pitched just as well. Colon has been sort of like a second ace.

I would have gone with a six man rotation for at least a little while, and that didn’t happen. But I can understand why it was Nova who got sent down.

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by nyyrocks29 on Jul 3, 2011 1:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

why is Colon even being mentioned in this?

this has nothing to do with him. He’s been the best pitcher on the team

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by Rorschach44 on Jul 3, 2011 1:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

Just because he didn't start the year in the rotation

Colon had no chance of getting taken out anyway.

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by nyyrocks29 on Jul 3, 2011 1:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

That's what I'm saying

I wouldn’t take any of them out of the rotation right now. They’re winning.

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by david d on Jul 3, 2011 1:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

Colon dominates. Freddy doesn’t.

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by Jedi Master A-Rod on Jul 3, 2011 12:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

It doesn't matter

Freddy has still done well. I know you hate the guy but he’s pitched well and gives this team a chance to win when he pitches. Colon has been better but Garcia hasn’t pitched so badly that it warrants him getting the boot.

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by nyyrocks29 on Jul 3, 2011 1:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

People don't like Garcia

Because of the way he gets some of his outs and the way he pitches. His line drive rate is a little too high, so he’s “getting lucky” to some extent.

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by nyyrocks29 on Jul 3, 2011 1:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

Dear lord, no one hates him.

If you look at anything besides ERA, there’s plenty of reason to be concerned about him.

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by WhatwouldJeterdo on Jul 3, 2011 1:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

Nova is better

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by Andrew GM on Jul 3, 2011 1:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

Look working the minors does not simply equate to accomplishing nothing. Hughes got send down and came back better in 2008, Halladay and Lee all have been sent down to the minors and they worked on their pitching and came back amazing. It’s not like Nova has nothing to work on. He can still work on command and his pitches in the minors being that he’s still young. I don;t get why every one hates the minors so much. You can improve in the minors as well…also it keeps the regular starter as a starter

by lololol on Jul 3, 2011 1:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

Exactly

I don’t agree with sending Nova down because he was pitching so well but I can understand why it was him. And it’s not like sending him down to the minors is a complete waste of time for him. He’s still going to be starting, getting innings in, working on stuff and he’ll be ready to come back up if somebody gets hurt or implodes.

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by nyyrocks29 on Jul 3, 2011 1:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

Mitre and Nova play to different roles for the team. One is a mop up which we can replace easily, the other is our starter and maybe our future number 3-4 guy. Why keep nova up if he;s not going to make his regular starts. It’ll be even worse if we throw him in the pen. I rather have him make his regular starts and be brought up later when some one gets injured/pitches bad

by lololol on Jul 3, 2011 1:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

You're right. We can replace mop-ups easily.

His name is Garcia, who was only holding Hughes spot in the ro-ro. Instead of letting Nova grow and learn in the major leagues with a very good team & bullpen behind him, we now have to wait for someone to suck enough before he gets to grow again.

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by I'mGivingYouARaise on Jul 3, 2011 1:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

So we simply throw garcia away? Look i hate i know Garcia is all smoke and minors as much as the next guy and i know he as an absurd line drive rate, but we’re not going to throw him in the pen. i mean if you go by his value, Garcia is our 3rd most valuable starter this year, higher than AJ and Nova. So why move him to an place where his value is the least? We can;t DFA him, moving him to the pen isn’t goign to maximize his vale as of now…so freddy is hard to move around. While Nova is easy to send down and bring back up. It’s not fair but that’s how it works. Hughes needs a spot and Nova was the most convenient to move.

by lololol on Jul 3, 2011 1:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yes. We put him in the bullpen, where he started

It’s called building for the future. Freddy Garcia starting over Nova does not do that at all.

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by I'mGivingYouARaise on Jul 3, 2011 1:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

Garcia was our 5th starter since the end of Spring and he as been above league average. Nova is still pitching. getting sent to the minors is not a death sentence. He has a better chance of developing pitches in the minors than the majors where the batters will crush any sub par pitch.

by lololol on Jul 3, 2011 1:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

And the only reason he became our #5 is because...

Hughes was terrible.

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by I'mGivingYouARaise on Jul 3, 2011 2:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

Garcia

has been in the rotation all year, Colon started off in the bullpen. Nova may only be down in the minors for a short time, it was the most logical move for the time being.

by Jon8010 on Jul 3, 2011 6:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

Mitre is a MOP UP pitcher

He’s not pitching any meaningful innings whatsoever. Would you rather have Nova taking Mitre’s spot and pitching non-meaningful innings, or getting regular starts in the minor leagues?

Being on the roster has nothing to do with it. Just because Mitre is in the majors doesn’t mean the front office thinks he’s better than Nova.

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by nyyrocks29 on Jul 3, 2011 1:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

See directly above.

It has NOTHING to do with Nova going to the pen. It has to do with once again, not allowing a young pitcher to grow, to develop, to learn how to face major league batters on a team in which he has a good chance to do so, considering how they are playing.

It’s moves like this why I hate the Yankees “MUST WIN THIS YEAR NOW ABOVE EVERYTHING ELSE” mentality which goes towards screwing over or trading young prospects. It’s reasoning like this why Jesus Montero is not platooning with Martin right now. It’s reasons like this why he MIGHT be traded.

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by I'mGivingYouARaise on Jul 3, 2011 1:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

i think they want nova to stay sharp

in the minors so that he is ready when a starter gets hurt or ineffective and no garcia hasnt been ineffective and nova has probably been better than garcia of late, but if they demote garcia they lose him forever potentially to a team like the red sox or rays or rangers

by TINO24 on Jul 3, 2011 1:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

Lose him forev...

You just put him back in the bullpen where he started. I’d much rather him him there than McChestington or fucking Mitre. He still gets paid the same, and if Hughes or Nova start faltering immensely, you move him out of the bullpen and back into the ro-ro. He’s a veteran, so I don’t think he’d have a problem with that.

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by I'mGivingYouARaise on Jul 3, 2011 1:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

but

if he is only pitching 1 time a week in real games for only an inning or 2, do you think he can stay sharp enough to go back into the rotation
i know he can throw bullpens or simulated games, but they arent the real thing

btw, this is what i would have done but im guessing the FO wanted both of them to stay sharp

by TINO24 on Jul 3, 2011 1:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

LoL, 1 time a week?

The way the Yankees use the mops, if he’s not in 3-4 games a week, I’d be shocked.

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by I'mGivingYouARaise on Jul 3, 2011 2:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

oy

There are going to be a lot of warm and fuzzy feelings surrounding the team this week. Jeter’s probably going to get to 3000 this week, hopefully at home on Thursday. We have at least 6 All Stars. And we’re going to go into the All Star break hopefully with a lead over the Red Sox, but no worse than a game or two out. So there are a lot of good things going on.

But it’s past time to accept that this team has absolutely no idea how to handle young players. Unless a guy comes up and has immediate, complete and total success, he gets shuffled around and loses time to replacement-level mop-up men. There’s no earthly reason why Nova should be in AAA while Sergio Mitre gets another go-round. And I understand the desire to win now, but guess what? We ARE winning now! We have one of the three best teams in baseball, and are almost certain to make the playoffs. But instead of developing Nova so he can be a steady part of our rotation for the next year, we’re going to give the rotation spot to Garcia, who’s not going to get any better, and give a roster spot to Mitre, who was treading water in the NL. This franchise does a lot of things right, but they have no idea how to handle young players. And we have a strong farm system that has the potential to provide a lot of quality players for the next decade, if someone can figure out how to get them into the big leagues. I have very little faith that Cashman and Girardi can do that.

by long time listener on Jul 3, 2011 12:52 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

because Mitre is mopping up and we’re not going to have Nova play mop up duties…We want him to start because we think he’s a future starter. By sending him to the minors he gets his starts in in case someone implodes or gets injured. And getting rid of garcia is not a good idea since he …umm starts today and the FO cares more about the results (shiny ERA) than the peripherals.

by lololol on Jul 3, 2011 12:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

like i said the FO are looking at results. It makes more sense for the young guy with options to be sent down than the guy with the shiny ERA and starting today.

by lololol on Jul 3, 2011 1:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

They're looking at result but ignoring both the process & the future.

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by I'mGivingYouARaise on Jul 3, 2011 1:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

and this too^

I bet it's good to be playing again, huh?

by david d on Jul 3, 2011 1:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

What about his development?

Or his confidence? There is nothing positive about sending him back to AAA. He’s been progressing well and is learning to pitch better and better against MLB hitters.

I bet it's good to be playing again, huh?

by david d on Jul 3, 2011 1:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

maybe it’ll motivate him to get even better to prove he;s better than Garcia, or he can mope…i don’t know. And progression wise he can work on things in the minors suck as command and developing all his pitches.

by lololol on Jul 3, 2011 1:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

Or he could do what he's been doing

Learning to do that with major league batters with a monster lineup and decent bullpen to back him up while he learns these things.

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by I'mGivingYouARaise on Jul 3, 2011 1:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

But Nova is.

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by Andrew GM on Jul 3, 2011 1:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

TEH ERA!

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by WhatwouldJeterdo on Jul 3, 2011 1:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

Nova sent down?

What has Cashman been smoking? Don’t tell me (Tim) salmon.

by SparkySaves on Jul 3, 2011 12:47 PM EDT reply actions  

hmm how is valverde, Michael young and CJ wilson in the all star game when D-Rob, Tex and CC aren’t? Quit smoking Crack (again) Ron washington

by lololol on Jul 3, 2011 12:52 PM EDT reply actions   1 recs

CC pitches the Sunday before the game, Tex doesn’t deserve to be there and D-Rob not going is a good thing.

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by Jedi Master A-Rod on Jul 3, 2011 12:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

Tex deserves to be there as a bench player and more than Michael Friggin Young. CC wasn’t even mentioned, which is a joke, despite being one of the top AL starters in both traditional and advanced stats

by lololol on Jul 3, 2011 1:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

Tex is on pace for 50 home runs and 130 RBIs...

How does he not deserve to be there exactly?

Not to mention he’s the best defensive 1st baseman there is…

by The Champs Are Here on Jul 3, 2011 1:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

Gonzo aint no slouch either

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by Cup Noodles on Jul 3, 2011 1:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

he deserves to be there as a bench guy, over michael young. Agonz and caberera deserves to be there, but Tex should have gotten a spot as well.

by lololol on Jul 3, 2011 1:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

CC deserves to be there

He wouldn’t be pitching but he deserves the recognition. He got it last year.

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by nyyrocks29 on Jul 3, 2011 1:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yup

Someone would have just replaced him

by Yankees10 on Jul 3, 2011 1:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

There are better players at 1st base. Now if we’re talking DH it’s a different story.

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by Jedi Master A-Rod on Jul 3, 2011 1:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

He's not a DH

He’s a 1B. And it doesn’t matter. The Yankees have enough All-Stars. I’d rather Tex rest up and be ready for the second half.

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by nyyrocks29 on Jul 3, 2011 1:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

I don't really care about the ASG anymore

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by Cup Noodles on Jul 3, 2011 1:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

And there are at least 3 first basemen that deserve to be there over him this year, which was my point to begin with.

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by Jedi Master A-Rod on Jul 3, 2011 1:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

now the team captains can pick teams?

so does the winner of the HR derby now decide home field advantage in next year’s All-Star Game?

by jetanumba2 on Jul 3, 2011 12:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

Who the hell is Aaron Crow

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by Cup Noodles on Jul 3, 2011 1:08 PM EDT reply actions  

reliever for the royals

who has a pretty good year, but probably not as good as roberstson

by TINO24 on Jul 3, 2011 1:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

Robertson has been more thantwice as valuable as him

He has the highest WAR of any reliever in the AL and 2nd overall.

by Monotonousblob on Jul 3, 2011 1:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

and highest k/9, best FIP, xFIP, eRA etc etc etc. Quit smoking washington

by lololol on Jul 3, 2011 1:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

Every team needs a representative.

Not every team has a fanbase voting in their replacement level shortstop to start, so the Royals needed somebody. It should have been Gordon for the outfield.

by Briceratops on Jul 3, 2011 1:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

Bingo

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by Jedi Master A-Rod on Jul 3, 2011 1:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

yea Gordon can pay multiple positions and has been great…how is he not there? ugh washington

by lololol on Jul 3, 2011 1:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

also why not name cc

an all star knowing he cant pitch in the game and then give his spot to someone else like valverde

by TINO24 on Jul 3, 2011 1:10 PM EDT reply actions  

and i think they sent down

nova so that he can still start and get his innings and be SHARp in case anyone else gets hurt. being in the bullpen doesnt really help garcia or nova stay sharp in case they need to start since they would either be pitching 1 inning at a time or once every 2 weeks. id rather have nova get innings in the minors so that he is ready once one of the starters becomes ineffective or hurt. and while garcia isnt pitching great he hasnt been terrible where he deserves to be off the team totally.

and also why isnt jesus montero on this team, please cashman please

by TINO24 on Jul 3, 2011 1:13 PM EDT reply actions  

I just read via text message that

Hughes was activated and Nova was optioned to AAA.

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by Ella Grace on Jul 3, 2011 1:14 PM EDT via mobile reply actions  

Andrew McCutchen is not an All-Star

O_O

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by Andrew GM on Jul 3, 2011 1:28 PM EDT reply actions  

The Fuck

he’s not even on the final vote…dear god managers can be complete morons at times

by lololol on Jul 3, 2011 1:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

How is Tex

not on the final vote. Being tied for the league lead ini home runs just doesnt do it. And his average is low, but also a low babip. if tex was batting .285 instead of 255 he would have made it

by TINO24 on Jul 3, 2011 1:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

.255 is ugly

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by Cup Noodles on Jul 3, 2011 1:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

who’s the pirate’s rep?

by lololol on Jul 3, 2011 1:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

Joel Hanrahan

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by Andrew GM on Jul 3, 2011 1:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

But McCutchen has been an MVP canditate

by lololol on Jul 3, 2011 1:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

Two players from one team can make it you know…

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by Andrew GM on Jul 3, 2011 1:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

i never said

mccutchen shouldnt be on team, just that hanrahan is deserving of the selection. he has probably been the best closer in the national league

by TINO24 on Jul 3, 2011 1:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

fine

but

hanrahan >>>>> every other close in the national league

by TINO24 on Jul 3, 2011 1:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

who cares

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by Cup Noodles on Jul 3, 2011 1:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah, Kimbrel is AWFUL.

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by WhatwouldJeterdo on Jul 3, 2011 1:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

kimbrel isnt even the

best reliever on his own team

by TINO24 on Jul 3, 2011 1:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

Results say he's pretty friggin good.

So I wouldn’t go so far as to say that anyone is >>>>>>>> than him.

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by WhatwouldJeterdo on Jul 3, 2011 1:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

Kimbrel: 1.9 WAR, 1.42 FIP

Venters: 1.4 WAR, 2.31 FIP

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by Jedi Master A-Rod on Jul 3, 2011 1:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

24 for 24 in save chances

for hanrahan that is what got him onto the team

by TINO24 on Jul 3, 2011 1:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

No one is saying Hanrahan hasn't been good.

But he hasn’t been far and away better than every other National League closer like you are suggesting. You said Kimbrel wasn’t even the best on his team, and the numbers posted above disprove that.

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by WhatwouldJeterdo on Jul 3, 2011 1:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

who cares?

It’s the National League.

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by nyyrocks29 on Jul 3, 2011 1:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

Sorry, guess that means I shouldn't comment on it anymore.

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by WhatwouldJeterdo on Jul 3, 2011 1:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

thats not what I said

just seems like people are getting upset over it. It’s not that important. There are snubs every year.

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by nyyrocks29 on Jul 3, 2011 1:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

No one is upset.

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by WhatwouldJeterdo on Jul 3, 2011 1:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

Kimbrel > all

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by Jedi Master A-Rod on Jul 3, 2011 1:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

Good. Maybe they’ll trade him to us for Freddy

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by Jedi Master A-Rod on Jul 3, 2011 1:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

what in the ass

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by Cup Noodles on Jul 3, 2011 1:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

That's disgraceful.

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by WhatwouldJeterdo on Jul 3, 2011 1:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

i hope Washington is smart and give CC a nod when someone else pitches like Girardi did

Even though CC has been better than 4 of those 5 starters. Only Weaver this year has been more valuable

by lololol on Jul 3, 2011 1:35 PM EDT reply actions  

I just realized Craig Kimbrel got left off the NL roster. LOL All-Star Game

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by Jedi Master A-Rod on Jul 3, 2011 1:36 PM EDT reply actions  

wow

but venters made it lol

by TINO24 on Jul 3, 2011 1:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yes

Kimbrel > Brian Wilson

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by Jedi Master A-Rod on Jul 3, 2011 1:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

I agree

Bochy of course was gonna pick his own guy over him though

by Yankees10 on Jul 3, 2011 1:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

He’ll probably use him for 3 innings. Trying to make him the next Robb Nen.

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by Jedi Master A-Rod on Jul 3, 2011 1:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

eh?

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by Andrew GM on Jul 3, 2011 1:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

Bochy overuses Wilson badly, kind of like how Dusty used Robb Nen until his arm just gave out.

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by Jedi Master A-Rod on Jul 3, 2011 1:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

Ah yes, very true.

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by Andrew GM on Jul 3, 2011 2:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

It’s funny to me how almost everybody here in the past talked about how stupid the AS Game is yet now everybody is complaining about the team.

I bet it's good to be playing again, huh?

by david d on Jul 3, 2011 1:38 PM EDT reply actions  

This is why it's stupid !

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by Cup Noodles on Jul 3, 2011 1:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

It's stupid for the reasons everyone is complaining about.

The voting is a complete joke.

It's like being a huge fan of winning, which we do, relentlessly.

by WhatwouldJeterdo on Jul 3, 2011 1:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

agreed

let fans for players they want to see in the game and let the managers picking the starting players and let the actually players vote for the remaining players

by TINO24 on Jul 3, 2011 1:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

the manager's/player's picks aren't helping either

Washington is just stroking his own Rangers…remember last year when arod got picked by Girardi and there was a whole up roar because Arod had been Good but not great? CJ and Young gets picked over more deserving guys, but i bet there’s less uproar for that.

by lololol on Jul 3, 2011 1:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

All of it is a huge joke.

The fact that it actually counts for something is beyond moronic.

It's like being a huge fan of winning, which we do, relentlessly.

by WhatwouldJeterdo on Jul 3, 2011 1:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think A-Rod deserved it

But thats not the point I guess.

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by nyyrocks29 on Jul 3, 2011 1:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

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