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did nothing?  What if July 31st came and went?  Why do we have to make moves at the deadline?  Anyone significant on the market is too expensive.  Colorado was asking for six prospects for Ubaldo Jimenez.  Six!  Why don't we just give them our AAA team while we're at it?  James Shields, being in our division, will cost a fortune, as Tampa Bay will try to filch every last prospect of ours.

I guess I understand why people continually clamor for moves by our front office.  Being the Yankees, we are in contention not just for the playoffs, but also the World Series every year.  But we also have to understand that we play for the future, as well as the present.  If we trade a handful of our top prospects for one above average player (I don't consider Beltran, Shields, or 2011 Jimenez to be elite), we'll be sunk in 3-5 years.  I also believe (this has zero statistical backup, mind you) that players help worse teams more than better teams.  Let me explain: if Roy Halladay were traded, he would help the Pirates more than he would help us.  I say this because for elite teams like us (and Red Sox, Phillies), it's hard to significantly improve by adding just one player.  we're only 2 games behind the Red Sox right now.  And it's not like they've been leading consistently the entire year.  There's two months of baseball left.  People who want to make moves now are probably thinking that doing nothing means giving up on the season.  Not quite.  While adding, say, Ubaldo would help us and improve our chances, I think we have a pretty good team here.  We're not the favorites to win it all, but we certainly have a shot.  I guess what I'm saying is that we shouldn't throw out our future (our prospects) just for an increased chance to win it all this year or the next.  People say "no guts, no glory," but we can't "do anything stupid" if we don't do anything.

I guess it's a little inaccurate to say doing nothing is the best.  Maybe one or two role players would help.  A bat off the bench, or reliever.  It would also help if Ivan Nova was promoted and Phil Hughes relegated to the pen.  I'm fine with trading off not-so-valuable minor leaguers for guys who might help us.  Obviously, for every Kerry Wood you get, you get a useless Lance Berkman and an Austin Kearns.  Basically, we should just ignore any marquee trade chips right now, because they are way too expensive.  We might have deep pockets for cash, but not nearly as deep for prospects.

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I was gonna say No

but I read this and I agree, do nothing. Every answer to the problems should be in the organization already.

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by Rorschach44 on Jul 27, 2011 7:45 PM EDT reply actions  

The job of the front office is to always be searching for ways to improve

But that opportunity doesn’t always exist.

There’s a balance to be found between putting a group with a better chance to win on the field this year, and preserving the future ability of the club to either develop young players or trade them for better players down the road.

So obviously, don’t make a trade for the sake of making a trade, but there are obviously areas where this team can get better.

by Let's Talk About Tex Baby on Jul 27, 2011 8:06 PM EDT reply actions  

Pretty much our DH and C problem is in our system.

We’re just too stupid to realize.

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by DCyanks21 on Jul 27, 2011 10:00 PM EDT reply actions  

The package for Ubaldo is four prospects, not six.

But the point remains: we don’t need to trade for a pitcher. Keep the farm.

by Briceratops on Jul 28, 2011 12:52 AM EDT reply actions  

I'm with ya

No trades, but Hughes to teh pen and Nova to the rotation

I bet it's good to be playing again, huh?

by david d on Jul 28, 2011 1:51 AM EDT reply actions  

No

Hughes isn’t getting the Joba treatment. The Yankees already messed up Joba by his constant shifts from the pen to the rotation to the pen to the rotation and back to the pen again. It’s not good for his development if you move him from the pen to the rotation back to the pen again. The Yankees want him to be a starting pitcher. Send him down to AAA to work out his shit there (he still has options, correct?). But let him do it as a starter.

I’d let him have a couple more starts to work things out, and if he continues to struggle (not every team is the Mariners), send him down to AAA to try and work himself out. But I don’t agree with moving him to the bullpen.

CALL UP JESUS MONTERO!

by nyyrocks29 on Jul 28, 2011 12:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

Hughes maybe a lost cause.

You don’t gain velocity back.

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by DCyanks21 on Jul 28, 2011 1:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

x

After a few months of a throwing program and working on his strength and conditioning, Hughes picked up ~2 MPH on his fastball, so yes, you can gain velocity back. But, aside from all of that, his issue isn’t the radar gun, it’s pitching predictably up in the zone without a put away pitch.

by Lord Duggan on Jul 28, 2011 2:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

Your "facts" have no place here, sir.

So now the guys in the subway are saying Jesus is coming on October 21, 2011, but that would mean he wouldn't be on the playoff roster, let alone be eligible for it. I really don't know where these guys are getting their information from...

by Wraithpk on Jul 30, 2011 10:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

Hughes to the pen would be fine temporarily as he works on getting back to his normal self, but next year he should be back in the rotation.

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by TheRealSlimShady on Jul 28, 2011 10:31 AM EDT reply actions  

I concur

I agree completely with you. If you look at the cost of the trades out there, and then look at what and who we have in our system, in a few years, we’ll have some of the top of the line pitchers, and a stud behind the plate. However, the issue does come up, we have three potential catchers in the system, and we’re either going to have to convert at least two of them, or eventually a trade may occur. However, I believe that for right now, unless the right trade comes up, we should sit high and tight.

by NJGuy on Jul 28, 2011 4:09 PM EDT reply actions  

Disagree.

Jesus, Romine, ManBan, Betances, Chato, and 17 bags of Skittles for Javy Vasquez. Third time’s the charm.

#28. Book it.

Status quo.

by nyynygnjd on Jul 28, 2011 10:16 PM EDT reply actions  

No

I refuse to give up skittles. For anything. Just no.

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by Brandon C. on Jul 28, 2011 10:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

This team is fine

I wouldn’t mind doing nothing. Of course, Baby Jesus. And then if people still think we need a bat, think of it this way. We’re certainly trading for this creature by the end of August at the latest.

CALL UP JESUS MONTERO!

by nyyrocks29 on Jul 28, 2011 10:24 PM EDT reply actions  

I definitely don't think a big move is necessary

If we can upgrade over Jones, or get another guy in the bullpen to take innings away from Ayala or Logan, and we can get those upgrades for relatively little, then I’m for it. But it doesn’t make sense to make a move just for the sake of making a move. Especially when we have one big bat on the DL about 3 or 4 weeks away from returning and the rest of our problems could be addressed if they’d just CALL UP JESUS MONTERO ALREADY!

by long time listener on Jul 29, 2011 11:00 AM EDT reply actions  

The Tampa Yankees have agreed to a 3-way trade with the Scranton Wilkes-Barre Yankees and the New York Yankees.
- Tampa receives a roster spot
- SWB receives Brandon Laird
- NYY receive Eric Chavez and a PTBNL (Brandon Laird)
The Yankees are reportedly “close” to acquiring Rafael Soriano from Scranton Wilkes-Barre for Luis Ayala.
The Yankees are holding out for Ivan Nova and Jesus Montero in a deal that would send Francisco Cervelli and Sergio Mitre to Scranton.
Kevin Whelan and Greg Golson have been traded to the Yankees for Andruw Jones and Steve Garrison

The Yankees: Killing it at the trade deadline.

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by Jedi Master A-Rod on Jul 29, 2011 3:00 PM EDT reply actions  

Anyone interested...

in a former left handed Cy Young winner who is owed $72 million over the next three years but will probably only cost a broken B, a mop, and a dish filled with meat?

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by Thextreme71 on Jul 31, 2011 1:12 AM EDT reply actions  

Why isn't he left handed anymore?

So now the guys in the subway are saying Jesus is coming on October 21, 2011, but that would mean he wouldn't be on the playoff roster, let alone be eligible for it. I really don't know where these guys are getting their information from...

by Wraithpk on Jul 31, 2011 11:32 AM EDT up reply actions   2 recs

Rec’d

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by Brandon C. on Jul 31, 2011 12:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

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