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by YankeesJets on Jul 25, 2011 2:49 PM EDT
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We need to make a trade for these guys!! We need to trade Montero before its too late!!! Okay with that out of the way, I see a player that could be a nice fit. His name, Reed Johnson.
Johnson is making $900,000 this year and becomes a FA after the season, so there is no long term investment. WIth regards to the beloved Andruw Jones, I see Johnson as the perfect 4th OF who is killing lefties this season. With an OBP of .369 and a OPS of .924 he has to worth a lesser spect. Sometimes we get caught up in making the big superstar move that we forget about the moves with role players that really make the difference.
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Reed would make a good acquisition in the offseason for the 4th OF spot
I dunno about a trade since I’m not sure what I’d give up for him. Obviously it’d have to be something of worth since his contract is very reasonable. But he would be a good get.
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Over Gardner?
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by Frank Campagnola on Jul 25, 2011 3:19 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I’d keep Gardner starting
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by Chris McKeown on Jul 25, 2011 3:20 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
You and 99.999% of everyone else, apparently.
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by WhatwouldJeterdo on Jul 25, 2011 3:30 PM EDT up reply actions
Sometimes I think these posts are a cry for attention
How anyone with half a brain could think Johnson is a better option over Gardner is beyond me.
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Sorry, I'm not one of them. Although, I will add...
that for some on here I think you’re right.
I bet it's good to be playing again, huh?
Maybe true but how can you think Reed Johnson over Gardner is a smart choice?
Forget about the bats, how about the defense?
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If everyone in the world agreed that the sky was blue, some people would be there yelling it's green, just because.
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by WhatwouldJeterdo on Jul 25, 2011 3:39 PM EDT up reply actions
Reed Johnson is exactly a 4th outfielder. He only gets in games because he plays in the NL and pinch hits for the pitcher. Otherwise he only starts against LH’ers.
He has 62 PA against lefties in only 23 games, but 88 PA against righties in 51 games. If the Cubs thought he would be useful against righties, he’d start.
So, he’s a platoon player/4th outfielder. The Yankees have an elite option in left field.
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by Frank Campagnola on Jul 25, 2011 3:25 PM EDT up reply actions
And by elite, I meant third best left fielder in baseball.
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by Frank Campagnola on Jul 25, 2011 3:27 PM EDT up reply actions
His value is strictly off the bench against lefties
To think he should start over any of the three starting OFs we have is completely nuts.
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I know, and so do the Cubs. That’s why he only starts against lefties.
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by Frank Campagnola on Jul 25, 2011 3:36 PM EDT up reply actions
3rd?
Braun, Gordon, Morse, Holliday, Ethier… I’d take any of those.
I bet it's good to be playing again, huh?
Ethier plays right. You could have stopped after Braun and Holliday
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by Frank Campagnola on Jul 25, 2011 3:42 PM EDT up reply actions
Nope
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by Frank Campagnola on Jul 25, 2011 3:43 PM EDT up reply actions
And by the wway, Melky’s OPS is .786 as compared to Gardner’s .773. You make it seem like there’s a world of difference, when thats not even close to the case
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by Frank Campagnola on Jul 25, 2011 3:50 PM EDT up reply actions
and its only cuz Melky's shot a few more HRs
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Yup. He still doesn’t walk and he’s benefiting from a nice career high in BABIP. Though that correlates with a higher line drive percentage, history suggests he’s not a 20% line drive hitter.
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by Frank Campagnola on Jul 25, 2011 3:55 PM EDT up reply actions
Sometimes you say the dumbest things
How did I make it sound like a “world of difference”? Did I say “Melky’s waaaaayyyy better because his OPS is highher”? No, I just said his OPS is higher. And yes, I’d take the season Melky is having this year over Gardner. But quit putting your own feelings into other people’s comments. Or grow up.
I bet it's good to be playing again, huh?
Personal attack? Really? And I’m the one that needs to grow up?
And I’m the one saying dumb things by saying Brett Gardner is better than Melky Cabrera. Okay.
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by Frank Campagnola on Jul 25, 2011 4:38 PM EDT up reply actions
But quit putting your own feelings into other people’s comments. Or grow up.
Yeah. You had no basis to tell me to “grow up.” Or that I was “putting my feelings into your comments.”
All I did was debate you on a topic and provided statistics to back up my side of the argument. I don’t see any emotion in that at all.
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by Frank Campagnola on Jul 25, 2011 4:45 PM EDT up reply actions
Explain
how my comment suggested a “world of difference”. Maybe I’m confused.
I bet it's good to be playing again, huh?
That’s just the way I interpreted it. You said his OPS is better but the difference is negligible.
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by Frank Campagnola on Jul 25, 2011 4:49 PM EDT up reply actions
But I would love for you to explain why I need to grow up, or how I put my feelings into your comments when literally all I did was debate with you.
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by Frank Campagnola on Jul 25, 2011 4:50 PM EDT up reply actions
I also say dumb things by naming a right fielder and a first baseman when comparing left fielders.
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by Frank Campagnola on Jul 25, 2011 4:43 PM EDT up reply actions
They have all played in Left. Some full time, some not. I think Ethier could play left. Morse. Gordon. Holliday. Braun. Melky. All play or have played LF this season.
I bet it's good to be playing again, huh?
Even if he could, Either is basically Brett Gardner with a worse defense, no steals and a bigger name.
This is laughable
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by Jedi Master A-Rod on Jul 25, 2011 4:54 PM EDT up reply actions
Go for it. You can have Melky too
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by Jedi Master A-Rod on Jul 25, 2011 5:07 PM EDT up reply actions
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by Jedi Master A-Rod on Jul 25, 2011 5:07 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Melky was alright for what he was as a Yankee but not anything Id want back as a starter
If Ethier played to his talent, Id take him over Gardner but he seldom does so Im fine with Gardner and his better defense.
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Never seen him throw the ball sideways
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by Jedi Master A-Rod on Jul 25, 2011 6:00 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Except for the part where they’re not.
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by Jedi Master A-Rod on Jul 25, 2011 3:46 PM EDT up reply actions
Gordon and More are not better, and neither is Melky. You’re conveniently forgetting the years Gordon and Melky have had in the past.
Melky literally cost the Braves a win last year (-1 WAR) and Gordon was negative too (-0.4). Add in the fact that Gardner is arguably the best defensive player in baseball and its not even close.
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by Frank Campagnola on Jul 25, 2011 3:46 PM EDT up reply actions
And I never even got to Gardners second consecutive year of a 120+ wRC+.
Above average bat with elite defense = elite player.
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by Frank Campagnola on Jul 25, 2011 3:48 PM EDT up reply actions
The past?
Good Lord. Now we’re throwing in the past? So maddux was not any good because of what he did in ‘87 and ’88. Or Koufax wasn’t really good because of what he did in ’55 or ’56. Sheesh. If a guy is not a yankee, you criticize him.
I bet it's good to be playing again, huh?
You said they “are better” then Gardner. It would be silly to only take a 100 game sample and ignore their past accomplioshments when comparing players.
That’s not criticism, I gave you facts. It only looks like criticism because they don’t support what you tried to say and because their stats were awful.
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by Frank Campagnola on Jul 25, 2011 4:40 PM EDT up reply actions
Not the point fool.
Unless you're a pitcher or Gustavo Molina, kindly SWING THE BAT and ignore the Binder's bunt signal.
Play nice, gents.
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by Chris McKeown on Jul 29, 2011 10:08 AM EDT up reply actions
To elaborate the point that's already implied
Your comparisons to other years are NOT AT ALL the same as Frankie’s comparisons. Frankie’s comparing to the past couple years, not some random point in a veteran’s career that was years ago. To get an idea of these players’ skillset, you can’t just look at this year’s results. Check the past couple years to see how they’ve done too. Maybe they’re just having a randomly good year (for example, if you were looking at Brady Anderson before the ‘98 season, you would look at the past few years and then randomly see his 50 HR ’96 season. That’s the anomaly.)
No one would make the insane comparisons you’re claiming we’re making (i.e. Maddux isn’t good because he wasn’t good in some random year in the ’80s.). These are comparing players to the past couple years, not some random point in time.
Unless you're a pitcher or Gustavo Molina, kindly SWING THE BAT and ignore the Binder's bunt signal.
My point was
in 1989, by his analysis, the Cubs should have just said “this guy has had a couple bad years, he must suck.” Though, that IS the Yankee way, isn’t it. Just because Melky and Gordon HAD mediocre years (all players have them at some point in their careers) doesn’t mean when they have a good one it’s meaningless.
And you couldn’t just respond this way in the first place instead of calling me a fool? And you tell me “stay classy”? Dude…
I bet it's good to be playing again, huh?
This goes to everyone, not just to you, cut it out. Don’t get personal.
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by Frank Campagnola on Jul 25, 2011 3:47 PM EDT up reply actions
Never said anything about Morse before, but he’s there 1B. 57 games at first compared to 27 in the outfield.
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by Frank Campagnola on Jul 25, 2011 3:53 PM EDT up reply actions
Such a fool, aren’t I?
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by Frank Campagnola on Jul 25, 2011 4:00 PM EDT up reply actions
that's why no one listens to you
cuz that’s batshit insane.
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by Rorschach44 on Jul 25, 2011 3:28 PM EDT up reply actions 7 recs
I really can’t tell if you’re being serious, but I have a sick feeling that you are….
So now the guys in the subway are saying Jesus is coming on October 21, 2011, but that would mean he wouldn't be on the playoff roster, let alone be eligible for it. I really don't know where these guys are getting their information from...
He'd be a good guy to go after
Would definitely be an upgrade over Andruw Jones. I wouldn’t give up too much to get him since it’s a 4th outfielder and a two month rental, but I’d certainly be interested.
Now lets trade Montero, Banuelos, Betances, Nova, Phelps, Warren, Nunez, Sanchez and Romine to the Red Sox for the playoff proven, experienced John Lackey (PSA would explode)!!!
CALL UP JESUS MONTERO!
Explode? I think it would done
Pretty sure we would all give up and find something else to do,lol.
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It wouldn’t surprise me if he ends up with the Yankees. Despite the fact that his contract is very reasonable, Chicago isn’t competing for anything and they mind as well trade him for some sort of value instead of holding him in a pursuit of fourth or fifth place.
My one concern is that he doesn’t walk much.
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Neither does the team he currently plays for.
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by Frank Campagnola on Jul 25, 2011 3:41 PM EDT up reply actions
Talking to an avid, admitted Gardner hater about him not starting in left field
is like talking to a nymphomaniac about abstinence.
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by I'mGivingYouARaise on Jul 25, 2011 3:48 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
If anyone does
it should be Swisher. Which, if you weren’t just trying to suck up to the other bandwagoners here, you would know I’ve advocated all year.
I bet it's good to be playing again, huh?
Everyone needs to cut this out.
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Just general unnecessary insults. There’s a way to argue without being personal.
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by Hasan Paliwala on Jul 26, 2011 3:15 AM EDT up reply actions
REAAAAAAAALLY? The term "hater" is a bit extreme?
Oh hypocrisy, you are a sexy bitch!
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by I'mGivingYouARaise on Jul 25, 2011 6:17 PM EDT up reply actions
Huh? What hypocrisy?
Not the term, saying I hate Gardner is extreme.
I bet it's good to be playing again, huh?
saying a career 4th OF should play over him
when he has half as many ABs is extreme. So there’s your hypocrisy.
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Extremism. Hypocrisy.
And I’m insane? Just what the world needs, an insane psychiatrist. Oh, and you need to look up the definition of hypocrisy.
I bet it's good to be playing again, huh?
Which is precisely my point
Me calling you a hater because you don’t like Gardner is exactly as foolish as you calling people haters who don’t like Jeter or approve of his contract or performance as of late. THAT, my friend, is hypocrisy!
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by I'mGivingYouARaise on Jul 25, 2011 6:34 PM EDT up reply actions
Still makes no sense.
How you came about correlating the two is beyond me. But do I care? Really? No… Some of you need to take a Xanax.
I bet it's good to be playing again, huh?
can I take an alprazolam instead?
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Actually, it makes perfect sense.
But since you don’t care either way, it doesn’t matter.
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by I'mGivingYouARaise on Jul 25, 2011 6:51 PM EDT up reply actions
How quickly we forget all the spectacular catches vs walls, jumping over fences,
very good arm strength & the quickest release in throwing the ball of anyone in
MLB. That’s Melky- he’s still just a 4th OFielder type, but he is a human highlight film
both defensively and throwing the ball. Gets a lot of assists as a an OF guy. You just
don’t run on Melky.
yea but what about Castro Starlin?
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by Rorschach44 on Jul 25, 2011 9:25 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I herd he hits teh market this year!!!!
GET IT DONE CASHMAN!
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by TheRealSlimShady on Jul 28, 2011 12:44 PM EDT up reply actions
Human highlight film
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by Jedi Master A-Rod on Jul 25, 2011 9:39 PM EDT up reply actions
It never gets old
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by Chris McKeown on Jul 25, 2011 10:40 PM EDT up reply actions
Mickey Rivers
Once had 19 assists in a season as an OF. The reason for the high total? The guy had a below average arm and people ran on him all the time. High assist totals on an outfielder just as often signal a willingness to run on a guy’s arm as they signal a mark of throwing excellence.
by Iggy Poptart on Jul 25, 2011 11:03 PM EDT up reply actions
In all fairness, Melky’s arm wasn’t below average. But point taken.
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by Chris McKeown on Jul 26, 2011 10:43 AM EDT up reply actions
Melky has average arm stength
But he has the ability to get rid of the ball quickly and he has above average accuracy.
by Iggy Poptart on Jul 28, 2011 11:01 PM EDT up reply actions
what?
from what I remember, Melky had a cannon with not a lot of control, so the ball often sailed way left or right.
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I think you mixded up Melky with Gardner
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