New York Yankees News Recap: Chavez, Soriano, Nova and more
by Travis G on Jul 21, 2011 6:00 AM EDT
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PrintTwo guys that could definitely help the club are rehabbing and could rejoin the team within a couple weeks. Eric Chavez went 4-5 for the Tampa Yankees yesterday and ran the bases successfully - good news for the 3B/1B recovering from a broken foot.
- Rafael Soriano allowed two runs in 1.2 innings on Tuesday, also for Tampa, but his velocity was 91-93 MPH. He won't join the Yankees until he shows he can pitch in back-to-back games without soreness (something he didn't like doing even when healthy). He's recovering from an inflamed right elbow.
- Ivan Nova was placed on the minor league 7-day DL after rolling his ankle fielding a grounder during Tuesday night's 6-1 loss to Columbus. Hopefully that's all the time he needs.
- I forgot to mention this yesterday, but LHP Steve Garrison was promoted to the Yankees in place of the injured Sergio Mitre. His first appearance will be his ML debut.
- Another save, another milestone for Mariano Rivera. He became the first pitcher to record 25 saves in 15 straight seasons after closing out Monday's 5-4 victory over Tampa Bay. With another five saves, he'll surpass Trevor Hoffman for the most consecutive 30-save seasons with nine.
- Curtis Granderson commented on the scarcity of black baseball fans yesterday. This is a subject that would be interesting to discuss, but we have to do so delicately. Why do you think there are so few black baseball fans nowadays, at least compared to football and basketball, which empirically speaking, have far more?
- Midseason prospect rankings have three Yankees in the top 50: Manny Banuelos, Dellin Betances and, of course, Jesus Montero, at 13, 31 and 10, respectively. Prospect "fallers" included Montero, who fell seven spots from a preseason ranking of no. 3, while catcher Gary Sanchez fell 18 spots to no. 54. Regardless, four top 75 prospects is more than most teams can claim.
- SBN's own John Sickels profiled the aforementioned Dellin Betances, and also looked at recent call-up Brandon Laird, who has yet to make an appearance for the Yankees.
- I voted for Babe Ruth as the most exciting athlete in New York sports history. Who gets your vote?
- Have you noticed the month/year Jorge Posada is having? A sub-.700 OPS for a DH is just terrible, and while June (1.007 OPS) made it look like he might return to his career batting line, July has surely quashed that idea - five hits in 37 at-bats this month (.376 OPS). And he's not even allowed to start against lefties. I have to wonder why he's even taking up a spot on the roster.
- Tom Verducci reflected on the greatest team he ever saw: the 1998 New York Yankees.
- Kanekoa Texeira and Royce Ring were brought back to the system on minor league deals. Is Chad Gaudin next?
- Fenway Park will celebrate its 100th anniversary next season on April 20th, and who will try to derail the celebration but our own Bronx Bombers.
- Hideki Matsui hit his 500th career home run (including his time in Japan) in Oakland's 7-5 victory over Detroit last night. Congrats, Godzilla!
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He won’t join the Yankees until he shows he can pitch in back-to-back games without soreness (something he didn’t like doing even when healthy).
Seriously? What are these Soriano rules? Can’t pitch against division rivals, can only pitch the 8th, won’t pitch in back-to-back games? Do your job and shut the hell up you stupid bum.
Kanekoa Texeira and Royce Ring were brought back
I can understand the depth argument, but when will this depth actually be used? If someone goes down we have other options to go to first and if enough go down that would warrant these players getting a call up, we’d probably make a trade by that point so this ‘depth’ is a bunch of nonsense. I just don’t get it.
+1 for Soriano
He’s wrong on all counts, isn’t he?
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by Hasan Paliwala on Jul 21, 2011 7:59 AM EDT up reply actions
at this point the only options are the mops
and increasing depth means acquiring more mops
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I'm beginning to wonder
if Soriano has always had soreness after pitching and this may be a chronic problem. Why else would he not like pitching on back to back days? Or maybe he’s just a pussy.
I bet it's good to be playing again, huh?
Its pretty obvious why there are less black fans
Because there are less black players then ever before. Only 8.5 percent of MLB players are black, the lowest percentage ever. That’s down from 17 percent in 1990.It is a lot tougher to play baseball in the inner cities, unless you want to play stick ball in the streets like the olden days. So until baseball fields are provided, I don’t see the percentage rising any time soon.
Makes sense
Do you have figures for what the percentage was, say, 10 or 20 years ago?
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by Hasan Paliwala on Jul 21, 2011 8:05 AM EDT up reply actions
NFL has consistently been around 60% over the past 20 years, while the NBA has steadily increased from 60% since 1990. My guess on the increase is because of Micheal Jordan.
Thanks!
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by Hasan Paliwala on Jul 21, 2011 8:51 AM EDT up reply actions
Many white people can still be found at NBA games though.
Just saying.
Yes, that is Spike Lee.
by TheRealSlimShady on Jul 21, 2011 10:23 AM EDT up reply actions
What?
Look in the stands at games. Most of the patrons are white.
I bet it's good to be playing again, huh?
He said “Many white people can still be found at NBA games”…
I don’t think we’re talking about “players” here…
I bet it's good to be playing again, huh?
Well I've been talking about players
I’m sorry if you both misread what I wrote. The only fans I have mentioned were black fans in baseball, the same thing Granderson was talking about. I’m sure there are white people going to NBA games, personally I think the NBA is a joke and am glad it won’t be around next season.
I thought I was the only one
I can’t stand the NBA either. College hoops, yes. Same with football, I’ll take college over the NFL every time.
I bet it's good to be playing again, huh?
I love college ball
I was hoping the NFL would remain locked out too, but looks like they will settle things today. Baseball is the only sport the requires talent, NBA and NFL only require you to be huge to get a job. I’d love to see Shaq or James Harrison hit a 95 MPH fastball.
LOL
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by Jedi Master A-Rod on Jul 21, 2011 12:23 PM EDT up reply actions
So much fail...
…cannot begin to respond.
by NYCNative on Jul 21, 2011 4:37 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
I'd rather they lockout baseball.
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either are you
and even worse, you’re not a sports fan.
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You would rather have MLB locked out then the NFL says a lot. Most Yankee fans I know breathe baseball, I guess you are just another fair weather fan. So have fun watching a bunch of out of shape sweaty men push each other around and play grab ass all year in the NFL. I’ll be rooting for the greatest team of the greatest sport in October.Thanks for playing.
So if you like football more than baseball, you don't like baseball
Logic fail, but thanks for playing
Not what I said
If you rather see baseball locked out the football you are not a true Yankee fan was my point. Please read before you respond.
I like the Giants and I like the Yankees
If I like the Giants more than I like the Yankees, you are saying I am a fair weather fan. I read what you wrote just fine. What you wrote was moronic.
You'd rather play badminton in the Fall
and cornholing in the winter. You’re not a real sports fan nor a baseball fan. Get off the baseball high horse, you’re no more a fan then any rock in your garden.
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Baseball is the only sport the requires talent, NBA and NFL only require you to be huge to get a job.
I’d love to see Mo Vaughn try and block Ray Lewis. This is just stupid.
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by Chris McKeown on Jul 21, 2011 4:44 PM EDT up reply actions
No.
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by Jedi Master A-Rod on Jul 21, 2011 6:04 PM EDT up reply actions
lol I love your guys arguments
If you want to debate over what I said that’s fine. There is no need to call it stupid, because that doesn’t prove anything, except maybe that you are childish. “No” is not an answer, either. A good example of someone being able to block Ray Lewis would not be Mo Vaughn, he could probably do it, I mean what is an offensive linemen but a 300 fat dude pushing someone around. I think Vaughn was close to 300 pounds, I would have said Dustin Pedroia if you actually wanted to prove a point.
Yep, exactly.
If the best basketball player in the history couldn’t even cut it in the minors I doubt some football player could step in there either.
Maybe the exception
I wouldn’t say he was a very good baseball player. His speed made him a good ball player. Good point though.Bo Jackson was the other. Two nfl players out of 10000 is not bad.
9 years in the majors, only guy to play in both a world series and a superbowl
not a very good baseball player, sure. That took me like 10 seconds to look up. Great job of researching your position, yo.
how many MLB players played football?
durp.
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John Elway
was drafted by the Yankees at one time. We’ll never know if he was any good at baseball or not, but I think he made the right choice.
I bet it's good to be playing again, huh?
CC, Granderson, and Chris Dickerson are the only black players on the current 25 man roster. Jeter and Martin are both half black.
Shit
I never knew that. I’m surprised.
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by Hasan Paliwala on Jul 21, 2011 8:29 AM EDT up reply actions
Actually, the lowest percentage ever, from 1869- 1947 was 0.0%
Just a reminder.
by designatedquitter on Jul 21, 2011 9:12 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
It is a lot tougher to play baseball in the inner cities, unless you want to play stick ball in the streets like the olden days.
I’ve read this argument before. But really, is it any easier to play football in the inner cities? And yet, the NFL does not lack for black players. Also, it seems like football would be at least as expensive, in terms of player equipment and facilities, as baseball. So it makes me wonder why there is such a large difference in the player demographics.
Right
Kids in the Caribbean use milk cartons for gloves and rocks for balls. Money is not what it’s about.
See: Mariano Rivera
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by Chris McKeown on Jul 21, 2011 4:24 PM EDT up reply actions
Im talking more about the space needed then the price of equipment. You can imitate the game of football easier than baseball in the city. You can get away with tossing a football in the street and playing flag/tag football more than getting a big enough area to play with real bats and balls.
Nonsense
Kids figure out how to play what they want to play. I’ve played stickball, football, hockey, and soccer in narrow streets (and inside my office for that matter). You don’t need a full baseball field any more than you need a full football or soccer field.
The Yankees have as many or more top 75 prospects with those 4
cuz they refuse to call them up and insist on relying on trash like Russel Martin and Cervelli. The pitchers are understandable, they’re not needed and I’d rather they not be Hector Noesi or Joba Chamberlain.
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calling up players
my guess as to why the Yankees continue to go with Martin, Cervelli and others who are not performing well is because they figure to just let said players play out their contracts and then call up some younger players
by NJsandman on Jul 21, 2011 9:57 AM EDT via mobile reply actions
Heh Maybe they are waiting til the trade deadline if over before calling someone up
maybe if an Ace comes to market, and costs just montero + mid level prospects Cash might have a go at it. But if no one shows up Montero might get called up after the deadline.
You can always count on Cashman to trade MIDLEVEL prospects
like Karstens (looks like an Allstar to me) and Mike Lowell for some
player who won’t make it here in NY.
It’s a miracle Karstens gets anyone out, let alone pitches to a 2.26 ERA.
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by Jedi Master A-Rod on Jul 21, 2011 1:55 PM EDT up reply actions
Jeff Karstens looks like an all star to you?
also Cashman didn’t trade Mike Lowell.
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oh well
it was still a stupid statement to bring up.
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LoL Karstens is a good reason why you shouldn't be looking at ERA solely to judge pitchers
The guy’s never been good, but this year his ERA is down despite not improving anywhere inhis game. It’s Luck, next year or later on he’ll turn back into a 4+ ERA guy. See Jarrod Washburn
#10 prospect?
Boy, it’d sure be nice to have him up.
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by I'mGivingYouARaise on Jul 21, 2011 2:04 PM EDT reply actions
But he dropped a few spots on completely arbitrary list. Clearly he’ll never be any good and should be traded immediately.
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by Jedi Master A-Rod on Jul 21, 2011 2:07 PM EDT up reply actions
Blah = better or equal numbers in every area compared to this point last season?
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by Jedi Master A-Rod on Jul 21, 2011 2:40 PM EDT up reply actions
Yea well last year he started out pretty mediocre didn’t he? He heated up the 2nd half, so we’ll see. So i don’t see how saying he is having a slow start is wrong or misleading. a wRC+ of 105 and wOBa of 334 is pretty blah for a guy who never had a wOBA of 370. So yea i would say his start is pretty blah like it or not.
He started off last year poorly, this year he didn’t. Sitting around .280-.285 with a better OBP, an equal HR total and a higher SLG% isn’t blah. He’s progressing towards becoming a complete hitter.
And like you said, it’s at this point last year when he took off. If that happens again (which it will if he keeps doing what he’s doing now) he might not get the HR numbers, but he’ll have clear increases in every area.
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by Jedi Master A-Rod on Jul 21, 2011 3:24 PM EDT up reply actions
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