New York Yankees News: Rafael Soriano
by Lord Duggan on Jul 19, 2011 6:00 AM EDT
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Rafael Soriano is going to appear in a game for High A Tampa today, his first action since going down with an elbow injury. He will need a few rehab appearances before he's ready to rejoin the Yankees, but it shouldn't be too long before he's another option in the bullpen.
In fifteen regular season innings, Soriano has managed to turn most of the Yankee fan base against him, with a 5.40 ERA, a few blown leads, a terrible contract, and an unlikable personality. At this point, however, most of that means nothing. Having Soriano back means less big spots for Luis Ayala and that we don't have to keep giving David Robertson the Scott Proctor treatment. I'll be surprised if he's not an asset to the team, albeit an overpriced and foolishly acquired one, for the remainder of the season.
So, get ready for the puppy dog eyes and the media overreaction if he does any more struggling. With that said, if [when] Soriano immediately leapfrogs D-Rob in the binder's depth chart, I'll be the first to strike up the Fire Girardi band.
Also linked in that story are some words about Eric Chavez and his recovery from injury. I think Chavez still has something in the tank, but I'll believe he can stay healthy when I see it. Brandon Laird and Eduardo Nunez are going to need to hold the fort down while Alex Rodriguez is on the shelf, with anything Chavez can provide being an unexpected bonus.
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If Soriano can pitch the way we know hw can,
we’ll get D-Rob an inning earlier. That has to increase our chances of winning by like, a lot.
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by Ella Grace on Jul 19, 2011 7:40 AM EDT via mobile reply actions
*he
/spelling fail.
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by Ella Grace on Jul 19, 2011 7:41 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
I'd rather leave Robertson as Mo's set up. Use Soriano, whenever, I guess. Or let him be the bat boy.
I bet it's good to be playing again, huh?
I agree with leaving Robertson as the setup man for now
But you have to give Soriano the chance to show what he can do when healthy. Using him ‘whenever’ is wasting a potentially very valuable resource, as well as risking overuse of Robertson and Mo.
Funny how at the start of the year it was all “Jo-So-Mo”; Robertson wasn’t even in the picture. It goes to show how quickly our perceptions can change in baseball. If Soriano comes back and looks like his normal self, the Yankees will be in great shape. That is, if Joe G can seek some help for his Meat Tray addiction…
As long as Girardi is in command contract will always overrule performance
The 8th Inning Guy™ returns because we wouldn’t want to hurt his feelings. Upon Soriano’s return Noesi will be optioned. watch.
By Nunez and Laird you mean Nunez, right? Because I will be very surprised if Laird even makes it in as a defensive replacement. Once Pena’s 4 weeks are up Laird will be gone before we even knew he was here.
Why? Laird can actually play. Pena sucks at everything
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by Jedi Master A-Rod on Jul 19, 2011 7:55 AM EDT up reply actions
Laird will get some PT
simply because Jeter will need some days off. As mentioned in the article, Chavez will be a bonus if he can return but can’t count on that.
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by tnredneckyankeesfan on Jul 19, 2011 8:24 AM EDT up reply actions
What is this Soriano you speak of?
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by Chris McKeown on Jul 19, 2011 8:38 AM EDT via mobile reply actions 1 recs
As soon as Chavez is ready we can forget about Brandon Laird
the guy can play everyday and bat 1.000 with HRs and all other good tuff. He bats RH, and there’s too many RH pitchers in baseball for the Girinder to have a RH bat of the bench. Matchups.
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As soon as Chavez is ready we can forget about Brandon Laird
the guy can play everyday and bat 1.000 with HRs and all other good tuff. He bats RH, and there’s too many RH pitchers in baseball for the Girinder to have a RH bat of the bench. Matchups.
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ESPN’s Buster Olney reports that the Yankees have been in contact with the Mets about Carlos Beltran.
GTFO
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by Jedi Master A-Rod on Jul 19, 2011 8:50 AM EDT reply actions
Cashman? Agreed
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by Jedi Master A-Rod on Jul 19, 2011 8:56 AM EDT up reply actions
This has got to be a bluff. If anyone needs a player like Beltran, it’s Boston. And I hope they give up a bit for him.
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by Chris McKeown on Jul 19, 2011 9:03 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Those small market, blue collar Red Sox need their HOMEGROWN TALENTZ.
...............YANKEES................
Sergio Mitre , King Mop
Beltran could be Boston's next homegron superstar.
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by Ella Grace on Jul 19, 2011 9:47 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
heh maybe as a DH?
Jorge has fallen back down again…Maybe cashman wants to give him the boot…i mean he was lifted last game for Andruw Friggin jones
Then replace him Chato. The hell do we need another $15+ million DH for?
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by Jedi Master A-Rod on Jul 19, 2011 10:48 AM EDT up reply actions
Proven commodity over ????. For all we know Chato can be basically Shelley Duncan 2.0 and he hasn’t been lighting it up recently. Also the yankees were inquiring if they can have him as a salary dump…aka Berkman style.
Beltran’s a proven commodity if you’re running a hospital ward.
And Chato was just an example. You can use Nunez as the DH when A-Rod gets back for all I care (he probably should have been before that anyway). There’s no reason to trade for guys when you already have guys to do the job
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by Jedi Master A-Rod on Jul 19, 2011 11:04 AM EDT up reply actions
Maybe when Soriano comes back and sees that he's only the 3rd best reliever on the team he will grow up.
I always thought that part of his problem was that he thought he was as good as his contract, and that everyone should bow down accordingly. He threw little tantrums when opposing players hit him like he was making the minimum, and the fans and press expected his majesty to be answerable for his performance.
As far as I’m concerned, he can pitch the 8th inning when he shows that he’s better than Robertson [who, you may recall, was a deserving All Star]. An actual binder full of statistics would relegate Soriano to the 7th inning.
I didn’t know Brandon Laird was called up. Usually when this happens, the player gets into a game almost immediately, sometimes to start, sometimes to pinch run or get a late inning defensive call.
The Red Sox have scored more runs than the Yankees. How do they ‘need’ Beltran? Or anybody?
by designatedquitter on Jul 19, 2011 9:47 AM EDT reply actions
As far as Beltran, Boston doesn’t “need” him. JD Drew has been terrible this year though, so it wouldn’t surprise me if they pursued Beltran despite Ellsbury and Crawford in the OF and having a terrific offense. They should focus a little more on pitching if anything.
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by Chris McKeown on Jul 19, 2011 9:57 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Lol
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by Chris McKeown on Jul 19, 2011 10:29 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Soriano might not pitch today
can’t let scouts and minor leaguers see his stuff…might hurt him in the future
trade value
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by Rorschach44 on Jul 19, 2011 10:07 AM EDT up reply actions
I have no problem with Soriano returning to the eighth inning role
When healthy he’s a great pitcher who has been brought here to pitch the eighth inning and he should do just that. But I do have a problem with him going there right away when he hasn’t pitched a major league inning since May. I’d give him less important innings first to ease him back into the leagues, and if he has success in those innings then move him back to the setup role.
Soriano is overpaid and he has not been worth the money so far. However, there’s still a lot of season left and he’s going to play a big part before this thing is over. This is a huge upgrade to the bullpen (hopefully leads to the DFA of Mitre and less important innings for Ayala), and will eventually lead to Robertson pitching an inning earlier. It shortens the game and gives the Yankees more viable options in extra innings. Definitely looking forward to getting him back.
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Correct. He has to earn his spot in the eighth inning. Robertson >> Soriano.
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by Chris McKeown on Jul 19, 2011 10:25 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Yep
Unfortunately I have a feeling that when he gets back in a couple weeks the eighth inning spot is his right away, so hope for the best.
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Robertson hasn't been given the Proctor treatment
Despite the injuries to Soriano and Joba, Robertson’s 37.1 innings in 40 games are very reasonable. He’s not in the top 10 in the AL in appearances or relief innings. His usage has stayed consistent even since he’s been the Yankees’ only reliable middle reliever.
Like Girardi or hate him you have to give him credit for the fact that he doesn’t burn out his relievers.
It’s unfortunate but when Soriano comes back it’s likely that Noesi will get sent down rather than Mitre being DFA’d. This is a major organizational flaw that the Yankees have shown over and over again where they will weaken their major league team to avoid putting a scrub through waivers.
by Let's Talk About Tex Baby on Jul 19, 2011 10:50 AM EDT reply actions
Solid point on the innings for Robertson.
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by Chris McKeown on Jul 19, 2011 11:57 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
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