The Yankees Catching Woes- Call up Jesus Montero!
Russell Martin was an All-Star this year. No, I am not kidding. Russell Martin was actually an All-Star, voted in by his peers. Yes, he lost the fan vote and still made the All-Star team. He didn't play, but of course neither did A-Rod last year. And yet, Russ continues to be the Yankees starting catcher despite his horrendous numbers offensively while one of the best prospects in baseball is ready to take off in the minor leagues.
I like Russell Martin. I loved him in April when he was playing terrific defense and hitting the living shit out of the ball to a tune of a .292/.378/.597 line with 6 home runs and 19 RBI. On May 1st, Martin was deservedly leading the All-Star voting at catcher and was on pace for 36 home runs on the season. We knew that those type of power numbers wouldn't last, but I think we expected he'd continue to be solid offensively and perhaps his struggles at the end of his Dodgers career were behind him.
We were wrong.
Martin has completely fallen off a cliff, whether it's because of overuse by Joe Girardi or the possibility that he had a good month and just isn't a good player, or both, he's a liability right now. His defense has gone from Gold Glove level in April to average at best and his throws have been off recently, throwing more into center field than Cervelli has recently. But the Yankees unexplainably continue to start him and act as if there is no problem with the fact that there is a near automatic out in the lineup every day (and I truly do mean every day- yes, Martin even games for Girardi on off days). The only thing they ever say is that they "like the way he calls a game". I'm going to post two lines of numbers. Try and guess who is which.
Player A: .186/.296/.286, 4 HR, 17 RBI in 161 ABs
Player B: .217/.292/.268, 1 HR, 11 RBI in 138 ABs
Any ideas? If you haven't guessed already, both are or have been Yankee catchers at some point. Player A is Russell Martin since the beginning of May. Player B is Jose Molina during his 2009 season with the Yankees.
Seems pretty close, doesn't it? Almost the same OBP. Molina actually had a higher batting average, while Russell Martin still has a slight advantage in the power department. But regardless, those are two pretty ugly lines and two pretty similar lines. There is one big difference though. Jose Molina (who is hitting .300 with 2 HR and 8 RBI this year for the Jays, in case anybody was wondering) was a backup catcher/ A.J. Burnett's "special" friend. Russell Martin plays every single game.
Defensively, Molina outclasses Martin by far. Molina had a higher percentage of people thrown out on the basepaths during his time with the Yankees than Martin has had this season, was better at blocking the ball, framing pitches and probably "calls a game" just as good as Russell Martin. Yankee pitchers loved throwing to Molina- that was a well known fact. I know AJ loved throwing to him (and some other things too in his case). So did Andy Pettitte. So did Mike Mussina.
But yet, the Yankees were pretty keen to be rid of Molina. He didn't seem to matter. It would have been just a couple million at most to bring him back. So the question is, what is the big difference between Jose Molina and Russell Martin? Why is one just a backup catcher that plays once a week for the Blue Jays while the other is playing every single game for the Wild Card leading New York Yankees? The Blue Jays have J.P. Arencibia. We have Jesus Montero. It's not like there's nobody else to catch while they have an up and coming star!
The answer is, there is no difference. They're both backups- one just happens to be starting. Russell Martin has turned into a guy with a bat only slightly better than Jose Molina with worse defense catching every single day. I'm sure Yankee fans remember watching Molina hit in 2009. If the Yankees think that Russell Martin is a legitimate All-Star starting catcher, then why wasn't Jose Molina brought back to catch? Why isn't he an All-Star? If this is their expectations- solid defense and "calling a good game", then Molina could have been had for better defense for a quarter of the price. And any Yankee with some sense wouldn't want ANY Molina as the starting catcher for this team based on defense alone. So Russell Martin, whose stats have shown to be almost identical since May 1st, is no better. Martin had 21 hits in 72 ABs in April (thats .292). He's had 30 in 161 ABs since. Since the start of June, he has 3 extra base hits in 86 ABs and is showing no signs of improving.
Again, I like Russ and I like what he did in April. He's a good guy. But as it has been said so many other times on here, it's Baby Jesus time. The guy is getting ready to take off- lets let him do it in games that actually mean something.
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of course he should be
but he won’t. Martin’s hitting it seems to the Yankees is the least of what his ‘value’ to the team is. His defense behind the plate is very good and apparently the pitchers work well with him. Those 2 things outweigh his Jose Molina’ness at the dish (tho it seems that may be an insult to Jose at this point).
Montero’s bat would probably be fine up here, but catching they’d rather he do whatever it is he’s doing in AAA. ALso it seems they want him to be the every day catcher, and not a ‘fill in’ type player
So basically the Yankees still see the value in Martin and it outweighs Montero. Why? Who the fuck really knows.
Last night, a comedian died in New York. Somebody knows why. Somebody knows
exactly
But he’s better and more valuable to the Yankees than Martin so who knows?
CALL UP JESUS MONTERO!
Only reason
The pitchers and the coaching staff must have some level of comfort with him catching, which is not a small consideration in a close divisional race.
Truth is that Montero one or two days a week a catcher and one day a week at DH may be a good idea right now with A Rod on the DL. Martin Jones Nunez 6-8 in the lineup against LHP won’t scare many people.
I want to see what Montero can do.
I’m excited that he’ll be able to help us make a push for the AL East crown. Too bad Martin and Cervelli will need to break their legs.
Russell...remember when I said I'd kill you last...

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by Jedi Master A-Rod on Jul 15, 2011 6:01 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
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by I'mGivingYouARaise on Jul 15, 2011 10:36 PM EDT up reply actions
This made me laugh out loud
I know AJ loved throwing to him (and some other things too in his case)
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In a previous thread when I made the Russel Martin-Jose Molina comparison...
I didn’t realize how spot on it was. This post get’s a rec.
BS, it's a terrible comparison
player A .267/.361/.396/.756/64HR/351BB/73SB
player B .240/.286/.343/.629/12HR/94BB/12SB
You can cherry pick stats and make anyone look as good or better than anyone else.
by Peter Lacock on Jul 16, 2011 4:35 AM EDT up reply actions
OH
Then what’s a better comparison? There are no legitimate starting catchers that you can compare Russell Martin to right now. He’s been that bad.
CALL UP JESUS MONTERO!
What Russel Martin did four years ago has nothing to do with him today.
by Briceratops on Jul 16, 2011 12:43 PM EDT up reply actions
BS, you guys aren't even counting what he did this April
by Peter Lacock on Jul 16, 2011 6:44 PM EDT up reply actions
April isn't helping him not be a complete offensive liability right now.
It's like being a huge fan of winning, which we do, relentlessly.
by WhatwouldJeterdo on Jul 16, 2011 7:02 PM EDT up reply actions
And defensive
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by Jedi Master A-Rod on Jul 16, 2011 7:03 PM EDT up reply actions
who gives a shit about April?
it only makes what he’s doing now worse
Last night, a comedian died in New York. Somebody knows why. Somebody knows
Who cares about April?
He sucks now and is showing no signs of improvement, and thats the point.
CALL UP JESUS MONTERO!
Martin/Girardi
A few years back, the Yankees had a light hitting catcher known for his defense, his playcalling, his handling of pitchers: Joe Girardi, whose lifetime stats are .267/.315/.350. Obviously, Girardi is most comfortable with another Girardi behind the plate.
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I guess the good thing is Girardi gave way to Posada
who Montero resembles a bit.
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by Rorschach44 on Jul 15, 2011 10:56 PM EDT up reply actions
I hope he is a better baserunner
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by WhatwouldJeterdo on Jul 16, 2011 4:36 PM EDT up reply actions
Don't be silly
He should be the manager.
"WHO WOULD LEAD?! THE CLOWN?!"
by I'mGivingYouARaise on Jul 16, 2011 8:13 PM EDT up reply actions
Thanks for clearing that up
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If the players voted Martin to the ASG, there must be a reason.
1) He buys everyone’s ’roids for them;
2) It was the biggest collective prank ever pulled by MLBPA;
3) They assumed that if he was catching instead of Montero, he must be good
4) They think he is the best game caller/ pitcher handler in the AL.
My recollection of Molina as a Yankee is one of steadily declining performance from him, both with the bat and behind the plate, much like Cervelli.
Call up Montero? Only if he plays at least 5 games a week. How to do that? Who knows?
by designatedquitter on Jul 18, 2011 10:08 AM EDT reply actions
Make Martin the backup, send Cervelli down to AAA
After the season, non-tender Martin, recall Cervelli to be the backup, the rest of the catchers in the system move up (Romine to SWB, Sanchez to Trenton I think). And we’re good. If Montero works out then Romine and Sanchez can become trade bait. If he doesn’t, then these guys continue to progress and take over in the future.
CALL UP JESUS MONTERO!
I can't wait for Jesus
Martin was good in LA before Torre mistook him for a RP. He started off well here but it seems like he’s been catching every game (again) so it’s no surprise to me he’s fallen off a cliff. Obviously his hot start was SSS, but I can’t help but feel he’d be performing better if he was given a lot more off days. I know Cervelli sucks and was injured in April, but still…
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yankee fans are obsessed with montero
by jadedeed2327 on Jul 24, 2011 6:18 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
Say it one more time.
It's like being a huge fan of winning, which we do, relentlessly.
by WhatwouldJeterdo on Jul 24, 2011 6:43 PM EDT up reply actions
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by Jedi Master A-Rod on Jul 24, 2011 6:46 PM EDT up reply actions
No we're not
Real Yankees fans are obsessed with doing what is best for the team to help win both now and for the future. Seeing as our catching and DH situation is the big weakness of this offense, calling up Jesus Montero would be classified as a move that is “best for the team”.
It has nothing to do with calling up Montero just because he’s so well liked. If Russell Martin was still playing the way he was in April I’m sure opinions would be much different. But right now, starting Martin isn’t best for the team, and giving Jesus Montero an opportunity is. And thats why we’re “obsessed”.
CALL UP JESUS MONTERO!

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