Dodgers Writers Talk Russell Martin
Over the last couple of days I have reached out to many writers from other SB Nation websites. The goal was to get as much information on the new Yankees acquisitions as possible. I know we have already previewed Russell Martin here, and are planning to preview other Yankees, but it is always good to get as much information as possible.
I posed two questions to the writers: 1. What are Martin's strengths and weaknesses?; and 2. How do you think Martin will perform for the Yankees? Here is what the writers from True Blue LA said:
Phil Gurnee:
1. Russell Martin strengths/weaknesses? The Russell Martin who played for the Dodgers since the 2008 All-Star Game has little power, is pull crazy, and is a douche. Every spring he will say he's in the best shape of his life, but it doesn't change the fact he has lost his mojo. His best skill at this point is still his plate discipline. Subjectively, his defense seems sloppy, and I've never been a fan of his pitch-calling skills.
2. How do you think Martin will play for the Yankees? I think you will be disappointed, unless he can reach back and become the player he was prior to the 2008 All-Star Game. That guy was awesome, great team player, outwardly enjoyed the game, hit for power, excellent plate discipline, sprayed the ball, and might have been the fastest catcher in baseball. To bad he became the post-2005 version of Jason Kendall at such a young age.
Easy to say that by the All-Star Game of 2008, Russell Martin was probably on every one's top five favorite Dodgers. His fall from grace was so fast, it has left the Dodger community stunned. We loved not only the unique skill set he displayed, but his passion and love for the game. Many will blame Joe Torre for running him into the ground, and for two years he did catch more games then any other Dodger catcher in history (2007/2008), but part of the blame has to fall on him. He hated to take a day off, but it is still up to the manager to tell a player to sit down.
Hopefully the change in scenery will do wonders for him, I'm just not sure the skill level is there anymore. If his legs are shot that is one skill he can't get back. I think his power is gone forever, but if he stops being stubborn about pulling the ball he might be able to become a .280/.360/.360 hitter. He is not a big man by any means, he's thick, stocky.
Brandon Lennox:
Russell Martin is a grinder who would play every day if management let him. Obviously that isn't always a good thing as a catcher, and that is what most likely led to his decline over the past few years. A few years ago he was a very solid offensive force who you definitely wouldn't mind having up in a critical situation. In 2010, however, it was mostly a drag to see him at the plate because while he was good at getting on base, you almost never saw him get a clutch hit or even an extra base hit. He went from a lot of fan's favorite player to one they just didn't want to watch hit. That being said, he is still a good clubhouse guy and has a good personality. On defense he's a little streaky as he can be very good, yet will have stretches where he can't throw anyone out and will allow way too many passed balls.
For the Yankees, I wouldn't be surprised if Martin had a bounce back season if he really is healthy. The fact that he can be used as a DH every now and then will help his game, although if he hits like he did last year you probably wouldn't want to waste a DH spot on him. I predict that he'll hit around .285 this year with 8 homers... nothing spectacular but solid for a catcher.
Thanks to the writers!
There you have it. Monday will be South Side Sox talking about Freddy Garcia.
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8 hr's?? Jesus can do that in one month.
We need our catcher position to hit out at least 20. Not as many positive comments as I thought on his defense. Gonna be hard to keep Montero out of the lineup.
by Kansas Yankee on Feb 5, 2011 2:34 PM EST via mobile reply actions
Montero won’t be up for a while and even when he does come up he’ll be a back up. Also Why do we NEED a 20 hr catcher? you do realize catchers can succeed without hitting for power. You know that mauer guy? 9 hrs last year
Ok, you’re right. We don’t need, be could really use a catcher who could either hit for power or hit above .300 or play gold glove level defense. It doesn’t seem like Martin offers any of those, and that Mauer guy offers two of the three.
How many Mauer's are there in the league?
We need a masher at that position due to the need for offense!
by Kansas Yankee on Feb 5, 2011 3:23 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
yes b/c we don;t have Tex,Cano, posada, Arod, swisher, granderson to provide us with power and offense?
I understand where you're coming from, but I don't think there's such a thing as too much of either.
People ask me what I do in winter when there's no baseball. I'll tell you what I do. I stare out the window and wait for spring.
by WhatwouldJeterdo on Feb 5, 2011 6:17 PM EST up reply actions
lolol
Lost your love for Jeter? He’ll be big this year (my fingers are crossed)
There's always next year
Jeter is done
He will remain a below average player for the Yankees the rest of his career. A few sparks of rebounding will occur and everyone will say Jeter is back, but it will be short-lived and after he gets 3000 hits, we may see the Yankees releasing him from his contract before it expires. I hope I am wrong, as I have enjoyed watching the good Jeter play, but it just may be time to let it go.
Lets hope tomorrow can deliver on the promise that she holds...
martin
Is it just me or does it seem like the 1st dodgers writer has serious issues with russel martin?
Never under estimate the grittiness and guttiness of Bret Gardner.
by yankees97 on Feb 5, 2011 3:16 PM EST via mobile reply actions
Agreed.
It was uncomfortably personal. Like Martin ran over his dog or something.
Strikeouts are boring- Besides that, they're fascist. Throw some ground balls - it's more democratic.
The first writer must not like canadians
I can see why he’d be pissed at him tho. Martin has basically taken a dump the past few years.
Last night, a comedian died in New York. Somebody knows why. Somebody knows
Screw it
Teach Arod to catch, then you have a masher behind the plate and I bet our pitchers throw 2-3 mph faster this year throwing at him trying to knock him out. Gardner can cover left and third.
My weenie is polywampus.( Richard thisle = Dick weed.) What in the fudalumdunges is going on here?
A-Rod knows how to catch....
Last night, a comedian died in New York. Somebody knows why. Somebody knows
I love the comment
about Gardner being able to cover left and third, but I think Golson might be better suited due to the fact he has almost Gardner speed with a much stronger arm.
by ghandioncesaid on Feb 5, 2011 10:54 PM EST up reply actions
But then again...
we do need some offense from that side of the field so Gardner is still the best bet
by ghandioncesaid on Feb 5, 2011 10:54 PM EST up reply actions
this isn't looking good with him, based on this
I’ll root for him, but I’m not expecting much. I’ll be surprised if Montero ISN’T the starting catcher by June, whether it’s because the fragile Martin gets injured or is just bad.
"I'll do whatever it takes to win games, whether it's sitting on a bench waving a towel, handing a cup of water to a teammate, or hitting the game-winning shot."- Kobe Bryant
Thanks for the memories Andy
ya know what?
It might be in our best interests if he sucks out of the gate. We’ll fast-track Romine and/or Jesus and Jorge can just sit back and rake, catch once a week, play first once a month… all good.
For the past two years Russell Martin has worked under the tutelage of Brad Ausmus, the Dodgers backup catcher. Ausmus has always been touted for his ability to handle a pitching staff and for his defensive skills. I followed Ausmus as a Dodger because he is a former Astro and there were many interviews/articles and comments during games regarding how Martin spent A LOT of time with Brad, learning how to prepare reports for pitchers, look at film, etc. This seemed to be very important to the Dodgers and Joe Torre. I felt like it was being shoved down his throat. I knew Martin’s offensive game fell off starting in ’09 and I wondered if it had anything to do with all focus and time spent learning how to become a stronger defensive catcher and learning how to help and prepare a pitching staff. When I read here that the Yankees signed Martin, I also wondered if they would somehow tell him to forget what he was doing and just go back to being himself. Just a thought.
this makes no sense
It’s like saying an outfielder who can play all 3 positions can’t hit as well because he has all that information on how to play 2 extra positions in his head and it’s taking up the room that would be devoted to hitting. His mind-attic should be big enough to accomodate
I've met people who can't walk and chew gum
Why doesn’t it make sense to you that someone could struggle because he’s being asked to focus on much more than his brain can handle?
(FWIW I have no idea about Martin specifically, just commenting that I don’t see on what basis you can reject the OP’s notion out of hand.)
Martin might be the next Swisher
I know a lot of you guys are maybe sippin too much Montero Kool-aid. I would hope that the change of scenery and the new hip will provoke a Swisher-like ascendency for Martin into pin stripes. The similarities are there. He’s certainly shown he has the potential. What’s wrong with Martin batting .280, Montero traded to Seattle for Felix in June, and we go to the World Series?
Cause Seattle isn't trading Felix in June or any time around it.
People ask me what I do in winter when there's no baseball. I'll tell you what I do. I stare out the window and wait for spring.
by WhatwouldJeterdo on Feb 6, 2011 6:01 PM EST up reply actions
But we Yankees fans are entitled to all good players on all teams
SNIVELING HU-MAHNS!!
Nevermind the fact that Seattle wanted Montero+ for 50 year old Cliff Lee.
But Montero alone is gonna get Felix from them if they bumped their heads and decided to trade him?
Some people do not think.
People ask me what I do in winter when there's no baseball. I'll tell you what I do. I stare out the window and wait for spring.
by WhatwouldJeterdo on Feb 6, 2011 7:33 PM EST up reply actions
Dodger fan here
…as well as a Mattingly-Yankee era fan (lived in New York as a kid, been in soCal my whole adult life), so I have a rather unique view of this whole thing.
Most Dodger fans were at least somewhat sorry to see Martin go, and even more sorry when we saw what he was replaced with. Most of all, though, Dodger fans regret how someone can go from elite to so-so so quickly, which is the real problem most have with the guy. (Though alluding to some non-defined “personal issues” being somewhat responsible for his decline after the fact didn’t help his cause.) Nevertheless, he was a fan favorite, even after his decline- look at his 2010 OBP and his ability to throw out runners- and tell me that’s not a guy you wouldn’t want on your team! The worst, and most forgotten, part of it all was that he was starting to get his swing back before his freak injury. So we’ll never know if he really was in the middle of a resurgence, but perhaps he can put one together now. The whole thing reminds me all too much of the Jayson Werth situation a few years back.
Some other stuff- Like the rest of the so-called Dodger “core” (Kemp, Ethier, etc.), he made some inexcusible mental mistakes that cost a few games. But he was also someone who had a real passion for the game, and it was something that didn’t go unnoticed or unappreciated in laid-back LA.
For my 2 cents (take it for what it’s worth), I’m more concerned about Martin’s injury than I am his decline, but most reports show him to be in good health. Sure, there’s a chance he’ll fail miserably, but that’s true with anyone first putting on the Pinstripes. Overall, I think it’s a classic case of Ned Colletti selling low yet again. I think there’s a very good chance that the Yankees got the steal of the offseason, and may just have signed their second most popular catcher since Thurman Munson.

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