Jeter still batting first.

"We signed him to be our shortstop and we signed him to be our leadoff hitter, and he's got a pretty good track history of what he's done in the game of baseball......I'm not really too concerned about him as our leadoff hitter."

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Gardner....

….should most definitely be in the conversation here.

by mattxlegend on Feb 14, 2011 7:52 PM EST reply actions

Where he should be

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by Rorschach44 on Feb 14, 2011 10:19 PM EST reply actions

+1

yep

There's always next year

by david d on Feb 15, 2011 3:46 AM EST up reply actions

Batting order doesn’t matter.

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by Lord Duggan on Feb 14, 2011 10:53 PM EST reply actions

Individually

maybe not. As a “team”, I say it does.

There's always next year

by david d on Feb 15, 2011 3:48 AM EST up reply actions

No, the opposite of that is true. Cano might have a better year if he hits 3rd. Teixeira might have a worse year if he hits 5th. The overall net result for the Yankees is no more or less runs being scored because you’re just robbing Peter to pay Paul.

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by Lord Duggan on Feb 15, 2011 3:10 PM EST up reply actions

-1

A player standing on first is more likely to come around and score when there are 0 outs than if there are 1 or 2 outs in an inning.

You’re decreasing your chance of scoring when you place lesser hitters (Pena, Cervelli) in the middle of your best opportunity to score, the heart of your lineup. The Yanks need to always cluster Tex, Arod and Cano.

by dhupads on Feb 15, 2011 11:36 PM EST up reply actions

So in one inning you have a better chance to score because you have A-Rod, Cano, and Tex hitting, and in the next inning you have virtually zero chance to score because you have Pena and Cervelli. The overall difference is in your mind.

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by Lord Duggan on Feb 16, 2011 3:03 AM EST up reply actions

Sorry, Duggan. You’re wrong on this.

There's always next year

by david d on Feb 16, 2011 9:20 AM EST up reply actions

Prove it.

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by Lord Duggan on Feb 16, 2011 12:50 PM EST up reply actions

+1

by Yankees10 on Feb 15, 2011 3:17 PM EST up reply actions

I really don't see how batting order doesn't matter

Say Derek Jeter has a .320 OBP and hits leadoff all year. Brett Gardner has a .380 OBP and hits 9th all year.

Derek Jeter will get far more PA and will make a lot more outs in front of your run producers. How is that good for the overall performance of a lineup?

As a team, you want your high OBP guys in front of your run producers. The more people on base, the more often, the more chances you have to score runs.

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by Frank Campagnola on Feb 16, 2011 2:27 AM EST up reply actions

If you swapped how Gardner and Jeter were positioned in the order, the result would be an extra ~3 base-runners in the course of the entire season. It’s just not of major importance.

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by Lord Duggan on Feb 16, 2011 3:01 AM EST up reply actions

you kids and your STDs.....

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by Rorschach44 on Feb 16, 2011 6:53 AM EST up reply actions

I understand where you're coming from

but that’s all in theory. And also only 2 people switching spots.

If we flipped the entire lineup from 2010 and put our lowest OBP guys at the top of the lineup leading up to the highest, and kept the run producers at the bottom, I have a feeling the result would be more than 3 runs over the course of the year

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by Frank Campagnola on Feb 16, 2011 1:57 PM EST up reply actions

Count me among the astonished if Jeter doesn’t improve on last year’s .340 OBP, which was second-worst among the starters (Granderson was at .324). If he shows even marginal improvement—and I believe he will, based on the work he did with Kevin Long near the end of last season, and what he’s done over the winter—then I don’t think his batting leadoff is going to be problematic for us. One problem with batting him second would be his high GIDP rate, although if it’s Gardner on first ahead of him, perhaps the constant threat of the steal alters that equation.

Farewell and thanks to #46.

by Yankee Frankee on Feb 18, 2011 7:36 PM EST reply actions