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Five Questions With Yankee Source's David P. On Hiroyuki Nakajima

Hiroyuki Nakajima

I reached out to David P. from YankeeSource on the recent news that the Yankees won the bidding for Hiroyuki Nakajima. David scouts the Pacific Rim, primarily NPB and Taiwan but also spends time in Latin America prior to International Free Agent signings.

Brandon C: Were you surprised the Yankees signed Hiroyuki Nakajima, and do you think they even intended to win the bidding?

David P: Yes. The Yankees never had strong interest in Nakajima from the start and there were stronger rumors that the Toronto Blue Jays and the New York Mets had greater interest. I spoke to two Yankee scouts who believe that the Yankees were surprised when they found out they were the winning bid. I think they bid on Nakajima but didn't expect to win at $2 million. Most projections had the bidding up to 5-7 million. This one was a surprise indeed.

BC: Can you give us a scouting report of Nakajima? Do you like the move?

DP: Nakajima has a live bat with power but doesn't project to hit more than 15 homers if he was a regular. He can take the ball to all fields and has the ability to find the gaps but he can also look bad on outside pitches because of a tendency to bail out on pitches and get pull-happy. The one good sign was this past season where he hit well with the introduction of the new NPB ball that suppressed a lot of the offensive numbers around the league this year. I think Kevin Long could help Nakajima shake his bad tendencies and refine his hitting approach. I compare him to a more powerful version of Scutaro offensively with less patience. Defensively, he is just average. He doesn't profile as a shortstop and most scouts, myself included, believe he would be a good second/third baseman. I think that's where he fits on the Yankees, a utility infielder with the ability to play 2B/SS/3B.

I love his makeup, following the Lions for years he's a lively character who enjoys playing the sport and has a passion and drive to win. His teammates always speak highly of him and I think his outgoing nature will help him if he comes to New York. I like the move, he's an affordable gamble to take and if the Yankees can sign him for a cheap deal they have a durable utility infielder for a few years and one who may have some trade value if he proves that he can be a decent starter in the league. I personally would have preferred to see Nakajima get a starting role on another team because he does have ability.

BC: What do you think ends up happening with Nakajima? Will he sign/play for the Yankees?

DP: There was a hesitation from Nakajima for playing on the East Coast. Maybe the utility role might also hinder his interest. Nevertheless, the Yankees have a good chance of signing Nakajima. He has a strong interest in the MLB and this is a great opportunity to play for one of the best organizations in the game. The Lions are already preparing on life after Nakajima with strong rumors of pursuing former major leaguer Esteban German.

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BC: Do you think this is a move to entice Yu Darvish (if they win the bidding)/Hiroki Kuroda to play in New York?

DP: I thought about this the moment the Yankees won the bid. Nakajima and Darvish play against each other often and it sure does help to see a familiar face in a foreign land. Nakajima could help convince Darvish to make the move to New York if the Yankees won the bidding. It's not easy for any Japanese player to make that transition. We've seen it with Igawa, Irabu, and others. It's a lot easier to go through your first season in the big leagues with another player (in this case Nakajima) who is also making the adjustments.

Kuroda will just go to the highest bidder in my opinion. He's open to playing anywhere and money is an issue so it doesn't seem like Nakajima would have any effect on Kuroda's decision. The Yankees are also not showing much interest in Kuroda at this point.

BC: What's the latest on Yu Darvish?


DP: The latest on Darvish is a jumbled mess. I talked to a Lions source who believes Darvish has a chance to be posted next week. Another source said that Darvish might hold off on a decision till January. The Darvish/Tellem camp is indecisive and that's the best way to describe the situation. I expect things to be clearer next week.

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They were surprised to win the bidding?

so why even put in a bid? its not like teams know who put in a bid to drive the price up. It just seems like a waste to me.

by jetanumba2 on Dec 8, 2011 9:29 AM EST reply actions  

Just to see if they could get a player on the cheap.

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by Brandon C. on Dec 8, 2011 10:03 AM EST via mobile up reply actions  

and they did

but now they just seem confused

by jetanumba2 on Dec 8, 2011 10:32 AM EST up reply actions  

It's not really "blind" bidding.

The Japanese and their US affiliates typically “leak” the bids to the media in an effort to make the low-bidding teams “lose face”.

For example: An American baseball team bids $32 million for a hyped-up Japanese pitcher. The Japanese look at that and try to talk the team into bidding higher. The American team refuses and the Japanese release the bid to the American media when the team loses the bid, “embarrassing” the team because their fans are jealous that the Japanese pitcher went to another team for “only” a $51 million posting fee.

The short answer is: the Japanese side tries to inflate the price.

Trust me; I’ve asked alot of people in baseball about this process (the real process) and the only answer I get in the aggregate is that the process is whatever it is on any given day.

This is no way to do business.

by Rickart on Dec 8, 2011 9:42 AM EST reply actions  

In Japan it would be.

Perceived honor is an important part of Japanese culture. (At least that’s the message I get from all those Kurosawa films I’ve watched.)

Usqueadbaugham! Anam muck an dhoul ! Did ye drink me doornail?

by Q-TDSK on Dec 8, 2011 10:02 AM EST via mobile up reply actions  

Because the American team's fans (and even parts of their organization) bought into the Japanese hype.

It’s a negotiating strategy really.

In business inflated prices are a direct result of inflated egos. Used car salesmen understand this principle. And if you’ve ever done business in Japan, you know that the Japanese are nothing if not good used car salesmen.

There are many ways for a baseball organization (and specifically it’s negotiating team) to be embarrassed. Any element in business is susceptible to these kinds of negotiating tactics when the other side controls all the information (and its release).

One example: It’s really no different than a scout who evaluates talent and is worried about getting it wrong. What if that talent turns out to be a star 4 years down the road and your report was that he was an average prospect? What if that talent’s organization makes you promises of future employment and gifts? A hundred other conflicts of interest can come into play.

The result is that rather than “evaluating” the prospect’s talent for real valuation, some scouts get trapped into embellishing and end up “selling” the prospect – when that is not their job.

And Japan keeps tight control on who they allow to “scout” Japanese talent. You might say, it’s one of the ways the Japanese maintain information superiority in negotiations like the posting process.

That’s just one of the reasons why signing Japanese players (and you’re actually signing a “package” not just the player) is so perilous, and probably why the returns have been so bad.

I can only hope that MLB teams wise up and realize that – when dealing with a used car salesmen who doesn’t let you look under the hood – the best negotiating tactic is to turn your back to them and walk away.

Some smart people in the MLB already know this.

Then again, there’s always a sucker – count on it.

by Rickart on Dec 8, 2011 10:20 AM EST up reply actions  

I get that

but why would the Japanese team releasing the losing team bids be embarrassing for the losing team?

by jetanumba2 on Dec 8, 2011 10:36 AM EST up reply actions  

It would be fair to say that you will embarrass certain factions INSIDE the team that "lost" the bid.

Remember that baseball organizations are not monolithic.

Heck, it’s believed that even a single person has multiple voices tussling against each other inside.

Releasing information is simply a negotiating tactic meant to take advantage of another side’s insecurity. And that insecurity manifests itself in many ways, whether it’s the fanbase or a baseball executive worried about losing his job or an owner who’s worried about missing the playoffs.

by Rickart on Dec 8, 2011 10:46 AM EST up reply actions  

I don't know that NPB has any incentive to play nicely.

I’d want to put obstacles in the way of another league stealing my league’s best players.

Usqueadbaugham! Anam muck an dhoul ! Did ye drink me doornail?

by Q-TDSK on Dec 8, 2011 9:59 AM EST via mobile up reply actions  

The biggest incentive is that the MLB subsidizes the NPB's survival.

The NPB has grown to the point where it relies on MLB revenue in one form or another. In many ways, the NPB is already a minor league feeder system to the MLB.

Just as Japan’s population has become hostage to the US following the repatriation of Japanese people from all over Asia after World War II.

As in most commerce, Japan is an export economy and baseball is no different. The US real domestic economy dwarfs and dominates that of Japan in a way that GDP fails to appreciate. America can stop buying Japanese cars and start producing its own. Japan will starve to death without the exports which bring in money with which it buys food and energy from a global economy dominated by America.

Ultimately, America doesn’t want Japan to starve anymore than the MLB wants the NPB to collapse.

It’s considered bad business.

But it’s also important to rein in absurd charges because being hosed is also bad for business – whether you’re being hosed or doing the hosing.

You don’t have to understand it.

Just know that the people like Cashman does.

by Rickart on Dec 8, 2011 10:40 AM EST up reply actions  

I'll take your word on how important exporting players are to that league's finances

I find that a little surprising, though. Without digging into it, it seems like NPB has taken in more less-than-successful MLB players than it has shipped players in the other direction.

Usqueadbaugham! Anam muck an dhoul ! Did ye drink me doornail?

by Q-TDSK on Dec 8, 2011 10:56 AM EST via mobile up reply actions  

You are looking at it from the wrong point of view.

To try and make it simpler, think of it as the Japanese selling slices of their fanbase (rather than the player) and you might understand.

by Rickart on Dec 8, 2011 11:00 AM EST up reply actions  

The MLB "sells" virtually NONE of its fanbase when MLB players go to Japan.

Nobody in America follows American players when they go to the NPB. And most of the players that go to Japan go through free agency; the MLB doesn’t make a dime (not directly anyway). When an MLB team does make a “high-profile sale” (which is low-profile to Americans), the amount of money involved is chump change to the American team (they probably spend twice as much in office supplies in their marketing division).

by Rickart on Dec 8, 2011 11:06 AM EST up reply actions  

It is also important to note that when the NPB "posting" a player to the MLB

they are NOT posting the player.

They are posting his “package”.

To be blunt, they are posting or “leveraging” Japanese fans.

by Rickart on Dec 8, 2011 10:58 AM EST up reply actions  

Pujols to Yankees?

Unnamed sources now have the Yankees as the mysterious bidder for Albert.

No wonder they have been so quiet at the meetings.

by webpilot on Dec 8, 2011 9:50 AM EST reply actions  

No. Been reported by just about ever reliable source that Yankees never even called.

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by Brandon C. on Dec 8, 2011 10:03 AM EST via mobile up reply actions  

Did the Yankees actually sign Nakajima?

If so, what was the deal?

Usqueadbaugham! Anam muck an dhoul ! Did ye drink me doornail?

by Q-TDSK on Dec 8, 2011 9:56 AM EST via mobile reply actions  

Holy shit!
Pujols will sign with Angels for 10 years for between $250 and $260 million. Full no-trade. Pujols decided Thursday morning.

hahah Angels!? Not sure how serious this is

by jetanumba2 on Dec 8, 2011 9:59 AM EST reply actions  

Yahoo is trustable but let’s wait and see.

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by Brandon C. on Dec 8, 2011 10:04 AM EST via mobile up reply actions  

Please take all Pujols talk here.

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by Brandon C. on Dec 8, 2011 10:26 AM EST reply actions  

David P?

Why not use the whole last name? Scared? Am I to believe his “credentials” when I don’t even know who the source is?

Romine!

by david d on Dec 8, 2011 10:42 AM EST reply actions  

…what?

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by Brandon C. on Dec 8, 2011 10:50 AM EST up reply actions  

Why “David P”?

David scouts the Pacific Rim, primarily NPB and Taiwan but also spends time in Latin America prior to International Free Agent signings.

Seems like he’d want to use his last name.

Romine!

by david d on Dec 8, 2011 11:09 AM EST up reply actions  

I don’t know. I don’t use my last name.

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by Brandon C. on Dec 8, 2011 11:17 AM EST up reply actions  

Only in the NPL...
The Lions are already preparing on life after Nakajima with strong rumors of pursuing former major leaguer Esteban German.

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"Why not? I had a better year than he did." - G.H. Ruth

Posting pictures

by Andrew GM on Dec 8, 2011 11:21 AM EST reply actions  

enjoys playing the sport and has a passion and drive to win

Everything else is just gravy. Now can he grow a mustache and pull up his high socks?

by Briceratops on Dec 8, 2011 1:14 PM EST reply actions  

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