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Reaching the Height of Potential

Baseball America recently unveiled its new ranking for the Yankees' farm system, and once again Dellin Betances and Manny Banuelos were featured prominently. Absent from the list, however, was Andrew Brackman, who ranked fifth on last year's list. Of course, the reason Brackman didn't make the list is because he is no longer in the organization. After only three minor league seasons and fewer than 350 professional innings, the Yankees decided they had seen enough of their 2007 first round draft pick.

Although Brackman's and Betances' status in the Yankees' organization has diverged dramatically since this time last year, the two pitchers still share one thing in common: abnormal height. At 6'10" and 6'8", respectively, both right handers rank among the tallest players in major league history. Perhaps not coincidentally, both pitchers have also shared a relative lack of command, which begs the question about whether height is a developmental impediment?

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Tallest Pitchers in Yankees' History
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Source: Baseball-reference.com

For whatever reason, the Yankees quickly decided Brackman would not live up to his potential, but the organization's hopes for Betances are still very high. And some might argue that because of his unique size, it behooves the Yankees to be extra patient. After all, 6' 10" Randy Johnson didn't find his true form until he was 26, so maybe it just takes tall pitchers longer to develop? That line of reasoning seems to make sense, but, unfortunately, the Big Unit is more an exception than the rule.

Stand and Deliver: The Best Tall Pitchers of the Modern Era

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Note: Based on pitchers since 1901 listed at 6'7" or taller and with at least 500 career innings.
Source: Baseball-reference.com

Since 1901, only 110 pitchers have been listed at 6' 7" or taller (an inch was shaved off Betances' height to increase the sample and account for some of the discrepancies in historical records), and of that total, only 35 pitched more than 500 innings. What's more, only eight from the group averaged more than 3 WAR per 200 innings and a mere six compiled a career WAR greater than 20. In other words, it's hard enough for a particularly tall pitcher just to make it to the big leagues, not to mention stick around for a long and successful career.

So, should the Yankees send Betances packing in a deal before his extraordinary height catches up with him? Well, not quite. Although it is true that taller pitchers are a rarity, their rate of success is impossible to determine with knowing how many have tried and failed to make the majors. Who knows, if not for the NBA, baseball could be overflowing with pitchers who cast a shadow all the way to the batter's box? Regardless, what we can determine is the comparative rate of success between pitchers who are at least 6'7" and those who are shorter.

Comparative Success Rates of Pitchers Based on Height
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Note: Includes all pitchers since 1901 with at least 500 career innings.
Source: Baseball-reference.com

Although taller pitchers reach the 500 innings plateau at a slighter lesser rate than their shorter counterparts, once they reach that lofty level, bigger does mean better. Over 45% of taller pitchers averaged at least 2 WAR per 200 innings and over 22% averaged at least 3 WAR per 200 innings, compared to 35% and 12%, respectively, for hurlers who measure less than 6'7". So, if Betances doesn't have a long and successful career, it probably won't be because he's too tall.

Before concluding, it's interesting to note that while tall pitchers are rare, position players who measure at least 6'7" are practically unheard of. In the modern era, almost 7,500 major leaguers have played at least five games at a position other than pitcher, and of that total only nine have been 6'7" or taller (all played at least some first base). Luckily, Betances decided to take up pitching when he was a kid.

Position Players Listed at 6'7" or Taller
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Note: Richie Sexson is widely listed as being 6' 8", but B-R.com lists him at 6' 6".
Source: Baseball-reference.com

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by Jedi Master A-Rod on Dec 24, 2011 12:34 PM EST up reply actions  

Oh, the link works for me now

Wasn’t working earlier. Thanks. Not much in terms of surprises, though the fact Heathcott is still considered our 10th best prospect tells me we don’t have much depth. I’m really digging our top 8 prospects though

by Arkansas Yankee on Dec 25, 2011 11:15 AM EST via mobile up reply actions  

Well, my best guess is that Heathcott being there isn’t because of a lack of depth in the system, but because of his upside. (and because Noesi isn’t eligible because of semantic BS) Phelps and Warren could, and probably should, be ranked above him but neither of those guys project to have a high ceiling.

Who knows…wooo lists!

by Jedi Master A-Rod on Dec 25, 2011 12:23 PM EST up reply actions  

slideshows even???

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by Andrew GM on Dec 25, 2011 10:23 PM EST up reply actions  

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by WhatwouldJeterdo on Dec 24, 2011 12:39 PM EST reply actions  

I think they’re just trolling him.

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by Andrew GM on Dec 24, 2011 12:43 PM EST up reply actions  

Is the lack of tall position players really surprising?

That’s a pretty big strike zone to have to cover with the same diameter bat.

Regarding pitchers, I’ve always had a gut feeling that tall pitchers were more prone to mechanical problems, both in magnified control problems and magnified injuries. These stats do seem to back that up.

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by Q-TDSK on Dec 24, 2011 12:43 PM EST reply actions  

I think its widely believed that they do have problems

by jetanumba2 on Dec 24, 2011 2:44 PM EST up reply actions  

I remember when the Yankees had Richie Sexson...

…they used to flash a stat on the scoreboard that said he was something like 4th on the all-time home run list for players 6’6 and over.

So that tells you how many great tall hitters there have been.

The only one that really comes to mind is Darryl Strawberry.

by Let's Talk About Tex Baby on Dec 24, 2011 4:47 PM EST up reply actions  

Frank Howard too. 6’7" monster, almost 400 homers

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by Andrew GM on Dec 24, 2011 5:13 PM EST up reply actions  

Yeah

because there are so many moving parts that you have to teach them differently than you would a 6’2 pitcher. I always found it funny that taller pitchers are collectively some of the slower throwers, outside of Randy, CC, and Josh Johnson on the list of players you gave

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by RUN BMC on Dec 24, 2011 1:41 PM EST reply actions  

they have a lot of moving parts and a lot more room to set themselves incorrectly

that’s one of AJ’s problems. He sets himself inconsistently, therefore his delivery is inconsistent. All pitchers have their own way of pitching, but tall pitchers need to be taught at a young age to develop a pitching motion that is easily repeatable.

by jetanumba2 on Dec 24, 2011 2:47 PM EST up reply actions  

AJ also adds some more difficulty to his delivery

i don’t know how to explain it but when he is about to pitch it looks like he is trying to pick someone off at second base the way he rotates his body. I don’t know if that is what you were referring to when you said his delivery is inconsistent.

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by RUN BMC on Dec 24, 2011 3:39 PM EST up reply actions  

It's not height that made the Yankees give up on Brackman

It’s Scott Boras.
Boras negotiated a major league deal for Brackman, and Cashman and the FO agreed. So Brackman’s option would have been for real dough (I’m not clear on the details, but 2 more years of Brackman and hope would have cost the Yankees $9M and a spot on the 40 man roster).

The deal was always ridiculously slanted in favor of the player, and in recent years the Yankees have shown over and over again that they’re trying to maximize their marginal dollars. Just like Melky a couple years ago, the Yankees have better and cheaper options, so they hold no sentimentality. They were right to let Brackman go.

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by jscape2000 on Dec 24, 2011 3:49 PM EST reply actions  

See, size does matter.

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by Wraithpk on Dec 24, 2011 5:07 PM EST via mobile reply actions  

Fun Facts about Tall Position Players (h/t to B-R Play Index)

Most HR for anyone at least 6’6" (italics=active)

1. Dave Winfield (6’6")- 465
2. Dave Kingman (6’6")- 442
3. Frank Howard (6’7")- 382
4. Adam Dunn (6’6")- 365
5. Darryl Strawberry (6’6")- 335
6. Richie Sexson (6’8")- 306
7. Tony Clark (6’7")- 251
8. Corey Hart (6’6")- 124

Everyone else is below 100.

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by Andrew GM on Dec 24, 2011 5:28 PM EST reply actions  

I think in Brackman’s case him making like a Hoover vacuum cleaner didn’t help either.

by bleedsyankeeblue on Dec 25, 2011 4:02 AM EST reply actions  

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