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29 Trades for 29 Teams: Colorado Rockies

I looked at the the Rockies to see what we might like to acquire from them, however the entire trade proved to be somewhat difficult to come up with. I wanted to create a realistic trade that could actually happen right now that would make sense for both parties. The problem was that the Rockies don't have a lot of realistic targets we could go for and trying to fill their holes was tricky. Their top prospects are a catcher, they have a lot of pitching talent and we don't have a first base prospect to offer them. Another problem was that I honestly never heard of him before I found him on the depth chart (for some reason NL West teams are alien to me) and I have no idea how they view him (part of the future or a just the best they have).

So here is what I came up with:

Yankees Get: Jhoulys Chacin

Rockies Get: Phil Hughes, Eduardo Nunez, Hector Noesi, Dellin Betances, Adam Warren

Star-divide

Why Jhoulys Chacin: It turns out that Chacin compares very favorably to Gio Gonzalez:

GG: 3.93 ERA 1.4 WHIP 8.3 H/9 0.9 HR/9 4.4 BB/9 8.6 K/9 47.5 GB% 35.2 FB% 10.3 HR/FB% 4.06 FIP

JC: 3.52 ERA 1.3 WHIP 7.6 H/9 0.8 HR/9 4.2 BB/9 7.9 K/9 52.4 GB% 29.9 FB% 10.7 HR/FB% 3.98 FIP

Chacin has a better ERA, WHIP and FIP in a tougher ballpark. He has a slightly better H/9 but a slightly lower K/9. Their BB/9 and HR/9 are the same and Chacin is much more of a ground ball pitcher than Gio is, which will play favorably in Yankee Stadium. Despite the fact that Chacin pitches half his games in a much tougher ballpark than Gio, their numbers are very similar and Chacin even seems to have a slight edge. Chacin will also give you the innings Gio will since he pitched 137 innings in 2010 and 194 innings in 2011 (his first full year of starting) so if he's let loose he will be able to give you 200 innings. Chacin is also 2 years younger than Gio and will be under team control for more years. Damn Super Twos

What we are giving up:

Phil Hughes: He will be able to immediately fill the hole left by Chacin in the Rockies rotation and, if healthy, could actually fulfill some of his potential value and fill in for Chacin. If not, he can always be put in the bullpen where he has excelled and could be the Rockies long term solution as their closer. I know Hughes has become a fly ball pitcher and it could prove to be a problem, but I think he can turn things around and lower his HR rates given a healthy season. Taken out on grounds of an overpay! Hurray! But Frank is right, I don't think you would need to include Hughes to make the deal, this is a lot of Major League ready talent. The Gio trade included some players that still have a while to go before we find out if they're legit or not. I think Nunez, Noesi, Betances and Warren provide enough 'guaranteed' value on their own.

Eduardo Nunez: He would be very helpful to the Rockies to sure up their infield. He has a better bat (93 (wRC+) than either second baseman Chris Nelson (68 wRC+) and third baseman Jonathan Herrera (65 wRC+) and has a lower K% and walks more than Chris Nelson. He also gives them speed on the base path. He could also serve as a better hitting utility bat and replace Eric Young (who they seemed to be interested in moving).

Hector Noesi: Provides them a cost controlled pitcher that can help them in the rotation or the pen right now. The Rockies bullpen was in the bottom third of the league in ERA so they could use his help there. In the NL West he could become a strikeout machine and if he continues to keep his walk rate low then he will be a great addition to the staff. If he is put into the rotation, they could then move Kevin Slowey to the bullpen as the longman.

Dellin Betances: Brings them another potential pitching star to eventually join Pomeranz in the rotation. In the NL West he should be able to flourish. If Betances can bounce back and lower his walk rate he should be very effective.

Adam Warren: I chose Warren over Phelps because he's younger and from the numbers I had available to me, looked to profile in Coors Field as he has been a little better at limiting home runs, which is key to pitching in Colorado. He could either fit into the back end of the rotation or stay in AAA for depth. Jorge De La Rosa had Tommy John surgery last year, so the Rockies need as much depth in the rotation as possible.

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In hindsight, the package is probably not strong enough to get him. I originally put in Joba before realizing he was still on the DL. I also didn't feel that giving up ManBan and Betances for Gio was worth it, so I felt the value of major league ready pitchers like Noesi and Warren would make up for ManBan's possible value. The Rockies might actually be building their team around Chacin for all I know. This trade may not have as much potential value, but I went for more definite value to try and make up for the lack of top flight talent. I believe that one can be substituted for another, but maybe this was just not strong enough. What does everyone think?

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I wouldn’t do this. Far too much Major League talent/near ML ready talent leaving in one trade.

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by Frank Campagnola on Dec 23, 2011 5:00 PM EST reply actions  

Did I overdo it?

What if you took out Noesi or Warren? Would that still be too much?

I figured we would have to give a Gio-sized package, but maybe this is more than I realized.

by jetanumba2 on Dec 23, 2011 5:15 PM EST up reply actions  

I’m not sure Hughes has any trade value right now and he’s probably way more valuable to the Yankees than anyone else at this point. I’d probably take him out.

For me, I’d go with Betances, Noesi, J.R. Murphy and Warren if you want to keep the Gio comparisons. A B+ pitcher, borderline A- in Betances. Noesi is a B. Murphy is a C+/B- and Warren is a B-. Only Murphy is far away from the majors.

I don’t know that I’d pull the trigger on the deal, but I think that one may be a bit more even.

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by Frank Campagnola on Dec 23, 2011 5:23 PM EST up reply actions  

well I kept a catcher out of the trade

because their #1 prospect is a catcher and he is in the Top Ten of the league and their backup is better than Romine.

I originally wanted to put in Joba, but I had to go with Hughes. I had a conversation with lolol in the Brewers trade thread about Hughes and his perceived value, so I figured a team would still see potential value in acquiring Hughes since he had such a high ceiling and has at least proven he is good in the bullpen. As long as the package wasn’t focused around him I figured teams would still be interested in taking a chance on him. Maybe the value of the others take away the need to include Hughes though. Given that they don’t need a catcher, I would keep Nunez in.

It’s funny, I thought the package would be too weak. I suppose definite value is a lot more valuable than potential value than I thought!

by jetanumba2 on Dec 23, 2011 5:33 PM EST up reply actions  

Ok, didn’t realize their top prospect is a catcher. Then I’d just remove Murphy and add Nunez.

Betances, Noesi, Nunez and Warren isn’t a bad haul at all.

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by Frank Campagnola on Dec 23, 2011 5:36 PM EST up reply actions  

It would just hinge on whether the Rockies would want to make the deal

The Rockies are a better team than The A’s, so they’re not exactly rebuilding, but the talent would strengthen their depth.

by jetanumba2 on Dec 23, 2011 5:44 PM EST up reply actions  

Also Gio and Chacin are each under team control through 2015, so you wouldn’t be getting more years of team control. I would think that would make you rethink who you’d trade away.

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by Frank Campagnola on Dec 23, 2011 5:16 PM EST up reply actions  

damn, didn't realize

But he’s still younger so thats a definite plus

by jetanumba2 on Dec 23, 2011 5:24 PM EST up reply actions  

Good effort with a tough team to work with

But this would be giving up a great deal for someone who already has problems with walking too many people anyway.

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by Andrew GM on Dec 23, 2011 7:12 PM EST reply actions  

I’ll write it in as just the four, no Hughes.

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by Brandon C. on Dec 23, 2011 7:53 PM EST reply actions  

By the way, creative and interesting move.

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by Brandon C. on Dec 23, 2011 7:55 PM EST reply actions  

Jhoulys Chacin ins interesting

but his k/9 took a huge nose dive this year while his bb/9 stayed high. He’s not really established enough to give up that much for. I can see Betance posting up similar numbers as Chacin did this year.

by lololol on Dec 23, 2011 8:20 PM EST reply actions  

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