New York Yankees News and Notes
by 3460kuri on Dec 23, 2011 6:00 AM EST
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Print- Rany Jazayerli shares his thoughts on prospect mania, and he's spot on. Prospects are valuable, but the degree to which teams are valuing them these days is ridiculous. The Yankees have three very good prospects - Jesus Montero, Dellin Betances, and Manny Banuelos - but also a huge need for a starting pitcher in 2012 and 2013. Yet somehow, all three of these guys have been basically deemed untouchable.
- The Yankee Analysts chime in with general musings on the Gio Gonzalez and Mat Latos trades, and the John Danks non-trade. One question: is the price of pitching too high, or are are Washington and Cincinnati ahead of the curve in realizing prospects are actually worth less than we think?
- RAB helps you answer that question I just asked. I'll ask it it again in the poll.
- Put some of your Christmas money together for this. I don't think this is a joke, either.
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The Yankees are best served staying far far away from the trade market
they’re the Yankees. Everyone asks for entirely too much when we’re trying to trade. ITs not the idea of trading Montero. Its the idea of trading Montero, Betences, and whoever else for Gio Fucking Gonzalez. If that’s what we’d have to give for Gio Gonzalez, what would we have to give for a good pitcher like a Jon Danks?
The Yankees have to stand pat, cuz they’re the Yankees. Develop these kids, let them make it to the bigs…and develop some more. Get that system deep.
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so basically Cincy and Washington aren't ahead of the curve
at least when comparing to the Yankees. The fact is they’re just not the Yankees and no one really tries to bend them over.
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The Nats got bent over
It won’t be surprising if Peacock ends up better than Gio. I think it was a stupid deal anyway considering Peacock is ready to be slotted into an MLB rotation, but outside of Harper and Stras, Rizzo doesn’t give a damn about the farm system.
Those numbers are only relative to the rest of your prospects.
Someone’s #3 might even be better than a team’s #1. Some #5s might be better than some #2s.
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by AlohaSox on Sep 28, 2011 10:20 PM CDT
by SandalsNoPants on Dec 23, 2011 10:15 AM EST up reply actions
This. The only thing I will say is if you don’t ask for Rendon you shouldnt ask for Montero.
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by Brandon C. on Dec 23, 2011 10:19 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
I don’t know what your problem is with him, but if you need someone else to say it I agree with Gomez
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by Brandon C. on Dec 23, 2011 10:23 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
“might”? The whole comment is dumb. A 1 is a 1, a 2 is a 2. I don’t deal in hypotheticals…“might”..Dumb. Then why don’t teams want our 2 and 5, cuz ya know they “might” be better than our 1 and 3…
Romine!
How are you not understanding this concept?
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by AlohaSox on Sep 28, 2011 10:20 PM CDT
by SandalsNoPants on Dec 23, 2011 10:28 AM EST up reply actions
That’s not what we’re saying. We’re saying the Nationals 1 and 2 prospects may not be equal to the Yankees 1 and 2. The Nationals 3 and 4 may be as talented as the Yankees 1 and 2, they just have a deeper system.
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by Brandon C. on Dec 23, 2011 10:31 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
And they already have a ton of young talent on their ML roster. I think it was a good move, for both teams. That’s the best kind of trade.
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The best kind of trade is when you trade prospects out of depth for a player you want. The Nationals technically did that, but I don’t give them credit because Peacock has a very good chance of being better than Gonzalez
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by Brandon C. on Dec 23, 2011 11:02 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
I think the best type of trade
is trading from depth for a long term solution for something you NEED. The Nationals did trade from depth, but i’m not sure it was a real NEED. They cut out a lot of their top prospects just so they could make a move to keep up with their division and help them in the here and now. Gio will be better in the NL but was he worth all that?
Ivan agree with that
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by Brandon C. on Dec 23, 2011 11:22 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
And the whole
a team’s 5 may be better than another team’s 2 is irrelevant. The bottom line is the Nats didn’t give up their 1 or 2. What is so hard to understand about this concept?
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That's actually exactly the part that is relevant.
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by AlohaSox on Sep 28, 2011 10:20 PM CDT
by SandalsNoPants on Dec 23, 2011 11:45 AM EST up reply actions
They shouldn’t need to give up their 1 or 2, while the Red Sox should, because the Red Sox have worse #3, #4, etc than the Nationals.
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And, more importantly, a significantly worse #1 and #2.
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by AlohaSox on Sep 28, 2011 10:20 PM CDT
by SandalsNoPants on Dec 23, 2011 12:10 PM EST up reply actions
You're missing
my point. You stated it was a bad trade for the Nats. It wasn’t, they still have their numbers 1 and 2. The guys they gave up may be better than some other team’s 1 and 2, but so what? They didn’t give up theirs.
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They gave up high quality prospects, nonetheless.
Are you implying the only way this trade would be bad for the Nats is if they gave up their #1 or #2?
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by AlohaSox on Sep 28, 2011 10:20 PM CDT
by SandalsNoPants on Dec 23, 2011 12:17 PM EST up reply actions
Quit trying to read Buffy and Mack
and answer the question.
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by AlohaSox on Sep 28, 2011 10:20 PM CDT
by SandalsNoPants on Dec 23, 2011 1:04 PM EST up reply actions
You’re missing my point, too then. I never said it’s a bad trade, I just don’t call it a win. Peacock has a great chance to be better than Gio.
By your logic, is any trade good if the team doesn’t give up their 1 and 2?
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bad, you mean, right?
Or do you mean good?
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by AlohaSox on Sep 28, 2011 10:20 PM CDT
by SandalsNoPants on Dec 23, 2011 1:27 PM EST up reply actions
Huh?
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Didn't follow this:
By your logic, is any trade good if the team doesn’t give up their 1 and 2?
I get it now, though. Substitute the word “bad” in for “good” and it makes a little more sense to me. Weird phrasing. My fault.
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by AlohaSox on Sep 28, 2011 10:20 PM CDT
by SandalsNoPants on Dec 23, 2011 2:09 PM EST up reply actions
Of course not
Depends on what you’re getting in return. The Nats filled a need and got a 2 out of it keeping their top 2 prospects. Good trade.
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by Brandon C. on Dec 23, 2011 10:23 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
NYY aren't the only one getting bent over a barrel for deals
Washington gave a HUGE haul for Gonzalez.
Check some of the dudes they gave:
Milone registered a 155/16 K/BB ratio in 148 1/3 innings this past season at Triple-A. He had a cup of coffee and did well there, too.
Norris, a 22-year-old catcher, has an .861 career OPS in the minors.
Peacock, a 23-year-old righty, had a 2.39 ERA and 177/47 K/BB ratio in 146 2/3 innings between Double-A and Triple-A in 2011.
Cole, a 19-year-old right-hander, posted a 108/24 K/BB ratio in 89 innings this past season at the Single-A level.
I would not be surprised if Milone easily duplicates exactly what Gio just did this past year, and they got three more good prospects for him.
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by Cory Braiterman on Dec 23, 2011 8:54 AM EST up reply actions
those aren't their top 4 guys tho
everyone asks for the Yankees top 4 prospects, no matter who the pitcher is.
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Yes, but asking for Harper and Strasburg
will just get you laughed at, and rightfully so.
You give me a pitcher with a 10:1 K/BB in AAA any day and I’m pretty happy.
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by Cory Braiterman on Dec 23, 2011 9:46 AM EST up reply actions
so how come there's something wrong when the Yankees laugh at other teams for requesting Montero and ManBan?
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Harper and Stras are insanely better.
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by AlohaSox on Sep 28, 2011 10:20 PM CDT
by SandalsNoPants on Dec 23, 2011 1:29 PM EST up reply actions
That sounds like a personal attack.
MODS!
But seriously, Harper and Stras are a ridiculously better combo than Montero and Banuelos.
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by AlohaSox on Sep 28, 2011 10:20 PM CDT
by SandalsNoPants on Dec 23, 2011 1:36 PM EST up reply actions
I couldn't care less what kind of attack it is
and Montero and ManBan are just as good. Montero’s bat is at the same level as Harper’s and Strasburg’s 4 years older then ManBan. Liiiitle bit different.
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I don't believe you really think this.
And Stras is closer to 2.5 years older than Banuelos than 4 years.
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by AlohaSox on Sep 28, 2011 10:20 PM CDT
by SandalsNoPants on Dec 23, 2011 1:42 PM EST up reply actions
Don't care,
but I do. And yes, its close to 4 then it is 2.5.
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Not if you're talking about years.
Banuelos was born in March 1991.
Stras was born in July 1988.
They are 2 years and 8 months apart.
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by AlohaSox on Sep 28, 2011 10:20 PM CDT
by SandalsNoPants on Dec 23, 2011 2:00 PM EST up reply actions
Amazing how RAB's poll question is ridiculously in favor of yes
And yet here, it’s no.
AJ’s had a solid career people. He’s been hurt a little too often but other than the last two seasons he’s been a very good pitcher with dominating, front line stuff. If you told me I’d get his career out of Betances I’d take that in a heartbeat.
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Depends on which part of AJ's career Betances will have
If he’s going to have the 10 stellar years at the beginning of AJ’s career for us to start his career, I say hell yeah. If he’s going to have the part of AJ’s career that we’ve been having for the last 3 years and will have for another 2 years, I say no thanks; my health insurance doesn’t cover weekly heart attacks!
AJ's problems the last two years have been at least partly due to age and loss of velocity
Both things that Betances isn’t going to have to worry about for a while. Hopefully.
But if Betances can consistently be the pitcher that AJ was in 2009 I don’t see how anyone could possibly turn that down. That was a legitimate #2 or #3 starter, and those are very valuable.
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I'd say closer to 3 than 2.
ERA, FIP, xFIP in the 4s. BB rate also above 4 (terrible). Good strikeouts, lots of innings. Solid 3. Sketchy 2. Ideally, though. That would likely be #2 on a number of teams, but reality is not ideal.
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by AlohaSox on Sep 28, 2011 10:20 PM CDT
by SandalsNoPants on Dec 23, 2011 9:34 AM EST up reply actions
I assumed it was the whole career, good and bad.
Unless people assumed career meant YANKEES career, I am shocked at all the NO selections. I doubt he’ll be any better than Burnett, anyway. Not sure why anyone would really think otherwise.
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by AlohaSox on Sep 28, 2011 10:20 PM CDT
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From the Jazayerli article
To put this in terms that Billy Beane can understand: We’ve reached a point where trading away prospects is the new market inefficiency.
Really? I don’t know if I’d agree with that. Any Yankees fan can tell you how awful the 2009-10 offseason trade for Javier Vazquez was. I don’t really miss Melky Cabrera, but a 200-hit season is better in 2011 with KC after leaving Atlanta is better than the year the Yankees got out of Javy. And we shouldn’t even start talking about Arodys Vizcaino, who looked good then and is now their #2 prospect (B.A.). Boone Logan’s mediocrity does not validate this deal.
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If I knew Bettances was going to be Burnett, I would trade him for someone who might turn out better.
But if I had to throw Montero and Banuelos into the deal, I would keep him, and then trade him 3 or 4 years from now when people would think he’s the next Sabathia instead of the next Burnett.
by designatedquitter on Dec 23, 2011 10:06 AM EST reply actions
Why all the no's for AJ's career
AJ sucks right now but people tend to stupidly forget how good he was when he was younger and not injured…We’ll be lucky if Betance if any where close to as AJ has been in the past. I think we have an over-hyped expectations for our prospects.
I think i've started to actually downplay the abilities of our prospects
People make ManBan out to be like the second coming of CC and I’m not sure if I see that. At least not yet with the high walk rate and inability to go 6 innings. Meanwhile Betances is considered on the verge of being a bum or something just because he’s older, yet he has better numbers. It seems that when you happened to be a Lefty you’re automatically considered an Ace™ in waiting. I need to see some improvement from BOTH of them before either of them look legit.
Also Austin Romine looks to be a future backup catcher and everyone is already rushing to put Bichette and Williams up at the top of the list while they’re still in A-ball (which is too far away to be considering anyone a top prospect, in my opinion)
Am i just downplaying these prospects because I don’t see the talent (or lack thereof) in other Teams systems and despite their shortcomings they are much better than what others have? I don’t know
Maybe it’s the sour taste that hughes/Joba/IPK left. Remember how we could have had Halladay by trading Hughes + Joba? At the time it looks like a good idea to prospect hug, but in hindsight we really should have done the trade. Joba is regurgitated to the pen and who knows wtf if up with hughes.
With Manny and Dellin i actually like Dellin better but neither of them in AA/AAA actually are putting up elite numbers that would make you think they’ll be sure fire top of the rotation pieces. If you look at all the top flight pitcher in the minors, most of the new generation of Aces all flat out dominated minor league ball. Even Hughes in the minors had elite numbers that would make you hopeful of his future…That is why i’m more hesitant to declare the B’s future aces and would much rather have an established pitcher.
Hughes and Joba both had better numbers than ManBan and Betances
and while that might not tell the whole story, i’m just worried that we’re throwing around the Ace label because we don’t have anyone better. We have great depth in the system right now, that is its strength, but we have a lack of definitive elite talent. There’s an awful lot of ‘ifs’ to go along with them all.
mostly cuz people are dumb and only think of AJ's career as his career with the Yankees
they don’t remember why we got him in the first place, which was cuz he threw 98mph consistently, struck out a ton of batters and was balls deep in the Yankees and Red Sox for the entire 5 years he spent in Toronto.
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Sign me up for that amount of success from one of our prospects
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by Livestrong77nyy on Dec 23, 2011 11:14 AM EST reply actions
Agree with the assessment
The Nats and Reds will prove that tradfing prospects to get an established MLB proven player is the way to go. I’ve said it before, the only consistent pitchers that came up in the Yankee system and panned out are Pettitte and Guidry. Have we traded away some good pitchers? Yes, but no true #1s and the book is still out on Kennedy. So we traded Clippard and Melancon. Relievers are a dime a dozen. We traded Austin Jackson for Granderson. We got a stellar year out of Grandy and AJ flopped in his second season. The Yankees have been none worse for trading their prospects. They still make win the division and make the playoffs. We need pitching and we’re letting everything available go by the boards to hang on to prospects that might contribute in 2 or 3 years if at all. Plain and simple, prospects are a crap shoot. If you can get established value for them, pull the trigger.
The payroll capabilities of the Yankees in large part allow losing prospects for proven players
They don’t need to be quite as concerned about team/cost controlled players as teams that don’t have their financial capabilities. I agree that this route is a great way for the Yankees to go, but for many teams, they simply can’t afford that and must take the risks that come with trusting their system to produce quality major league players.
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by AlohaSox on Sep 28, 2011 10:20 PM CDT
by SandalsNoPants on Dec 23, 2011 11:50 AM EST up reply actions
Danks, Gonzalez
Is it me, or are Danks and Gonzalez massively overrated? Gonzalez isn’t all that away from the Colliseum, where every pop foul is an out, plus he walks more than 4 per 9 innings. Danks doesn’t throw all that hard and his breaking stuff isn’t lights out, either. There’s no way I’d trade the farm for either of them.
They are good, not great pitchers
certainty not worth the high asking price. I’d trade the farm for someone that is better.
The thing is
we can’t afford to trade the farm right now. With aging position players all over the infield and no outfield depth in the system, we may need a top prospect or two somewhere down the road to fill another need. We can’t burn all our prospects on one pitcher.
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Well i didn't say who, but i'd trade the for someone like
Lincecum, Kershaw, or Felix. Young guys with shit ton of talent. Plus our farm isn’t going to find a replacement for Jeter or Arod anytime soon. we just don’t have the talent in those positions at the minor league level right now.
Gonzalez I agree with
your assessment of Danks is pretty funny tho. He doesn’t throw hard? Who gives a shit, although he does throw in the low 90s so I think you’re mixing him up with Buerhle.. Also his breaking stuff is behind his 2 fastballs and changeup as his best pitches. He also throws a sinker.
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that said I wouldn't trade the farm for Danks
unless we’re talking about a bunch of B level guys. Danks is good, he’d be a solid #2 for us..and I know solid #2s cuz I just dropped a hell of a solid #2.
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A.J. has a career 33.2 fWAR. I’ll do friggin backflips if Dellin reaches that, and he probably won’t even come close.
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When will Montero stop being discussed as a trade piece? Can’t wait for that, don’t remember any prospect being this loved yet talked about this much.
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When a scout thinks he will stick at catcher?
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by AlohaSox on Sep 28, 2011 10:20 PM CDT
by SandalsNoPants on Dec 23, 2011 2:18 PM EST up reply actions
So other teams are going to want him to be their DH?
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I hope the Rays would love that.
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by AlohaSox on Sep 28, 2011 10:20 PM CDT
by SandalsNoPants on Dec 23, 2011 2:30 PM EST up reply actions
They could even plop him at 1b and hope for the best.
A lot of teams might consider that.
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by AlohaSox on Sep 28, 2011 10:20 PM CDT
by SandalsNoPants on Dec 23, 2011 2:31 PM EST up reply actions
probably when he starts to play everyday and mashes like he did last September
also as long as our pitching is good and/or until Felix Hernandez is a Yankee.
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That’s what I’m thinking, maybe a full year in the books will shut people up.
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It won’t. It will bring out the “sell high” morons in full force.
by Jedi Master A-Rod on Dec 23, 2011 2:23 PM EST up reply actions
the morons will never shut up about trade permutations
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Mostly off Yankees reputation..
Years past they made bad trades. Plus the Yankees are thought to over hype prospects. So teams will ask for more from them.
by Kansas Yankee on Dec 23, 2011 2:48 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
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