Texas Rangers Win Rights To Yu Darvish
by Travis G on Dec 19, 2011 9:55 PM EST
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PrintUpdate 11:07 p.m. - Yahoo's Jeff Passan says it's the Rangers, who bid $51.7M.
If true, it would end months of speculation about, not just for whom Darvish would pitch, but whether he'd play in the States at all.
It had initially been reported that the Blue Jays had won the bid, but credit should go to Passan who apparently found out for certain. Previous rumors had the Jays and Rangers at the top of most lists of Darvish suitors.
Yu Darvish has dominated NPB (Nippon Pro Baseball) for a while now and is just 25 years old. In 164 career starts over seven seasons (totaling 1268 innings), he posted a 93-38 record, 1.99 ERA, .98 WHIP and 3.8 K/BB. Amazingly, he allowed just three more home runs (58) than complete games (55).
The Rangers will have 30 days to reach an agreement with 6"5" flamethrower. Darvish is reportedly seeking upwards of $15M a season for 5-6 years.
It'll be interesting to see how he adjusts to Arlington's extreme heat and hitter-friendly ballpark.
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And the Orioles are now permanently cemented in last place even more than before
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Judging by the reactions of Axisa, Carig, and Moshe, who I know to be reliable, I don’t think so.
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by WhatwouldJeterdo on Dec 19, 2011 10:07 PM EST up reply actions
more speculation
@Jim_Duquette: Heard from baseball official in Japan, bid was less than 53 mil being rumored.
by long time listener on Dec 19, 2011 10:09 PM EST reply actions
Benjamin Kabak @bkabak Close
The number of people who will believe everything some random unsourced guy on the Internet says is sometimes astounding.
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by WhatwouldJeterdo on Dec 19, 2011 10:15 PM EST reply actions
Moshe Mandel @MosheRAB
If the winning team knew, one of the major reporters would know. The idea that nobody bloggers know an hour before anyone: not believable
by Jedi Master A-Rod on Dec 19, 2011 10:22 PM EST up reply actions
Kevin_Goldstein Kevin Goldstein
Again, teams don’t know if they’ve won yet. Not even Nippon Ham KNOWS who has the highest bid. They just have a number.
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by Lord Duggan on Dec 19, 2011 10:27 PM EST up reply actions
Is there any new news here?
Blue Jays have “reportedly” won the bidding for a while now.
Make the announcement!!!!
Heh
I wonder if Darvish will be willing to leave Japan to play in….Canada. He’s supposedly a big personality guy so i personally see him wanting to play for a big market team with more national coverage. Rangers would probably have been a much better fit.
Toronto is actually a pretty big market.
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by SoxAcumen on Aug 27, 2011 11:56 AM PDT
by Briceratops on Dec 19, 2011 10:29 PM EST up reply actions
You don’t think a huge signing would interest the Toronto fans? They haven’t had one of those in years.
"Don't you think it's strange that you'll make more money than President Hoover this year?"
"Why not? I had a better year than he did." - G.H. Ruth
If bautista isn't interesting Toronto fans
i don’t see how much Darvish is going to help them. He might bring the stadium attendance from 45% to 50% though
Toronto was drawing 4 million fans a year in the early 90's
Of course back then the Skydome was state of the art and now its pretty outdated, but still its the 5th largest city in North America and it has a fan-base that has shown in the past that it will go out to support a winner. They just haven’t had much to cheer for in the last 20 years.
by Let's Talk About Tex Baby on Dec 19, 2011 10:37 PM EST up reply actions
By population (2.5 million), Toronto is the 5th largest city in North America, behind Mexico City, New York City, Los Angeles, and Chicago. They don’t draw fans because they haven’t had a good shot at the playoffs in a long time.
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by Lord Duggan on Dec 19, 2011 10:37 PM EST up reply actions
Yet the Cubs, Astros, Rockies, Padres, Pirates, Mariners
all had better attendance numbers than the Jays, and those guys had little to no chance either. I’m a bit skeptical on the current Blue Jays fan base.
So is this random guy who’s getting thousands of new followers/hits on his blog
by Jedi Master A-Rod on Dec 19, 2011 10:46 PM EST up reply actions
Jeff Passan @JeffPassan
The Texas Rangers have won the posting auction of Japanese right-hander Yu Darvish with a record $51.7M bid, sources tell Yahoo! Sports.
Oh.
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by WhatwouldJeterdo on Dec 19, 2011 11:09 PM EST reply actions
Some poster on Pinstripealley.com with the name CermolaNY2 reports that Darvish has signed with the New York Yankees for an unbelievable 71,101,001. His sources are unknown at this time.
Best outcome for us, I guess
Stays out of the division, goes on my fantasy team.
by PortlandYankee on Dec 19, 2011 11:13 PM EST up reply actions
I'd say it's worse for us
Because it makes a team that was already near the top of the league better.
by Let's Talk About Tex Baby on Dec 19, 2011 11:58 PM EST up reply actions
But it's less competition within the division and possibly prevents the Jays from becoming yet another top team to compete with.
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Seriously, do we have to wait for the money shot or a "F*** THE SOXXXXXX!" before we ban him? Doubleteapot… BAN HIM!!
by AlohaSox on Sep 28, 2011 10:20 PM CDT
by SandalsNoPants on Dec 20, 2011 12:00 AM EST up reply actions
I'd prefer that
I’d much rather a competitive division than a weak one comprised of only 2 or maybe 3 teams. Since we’re forced to face each other god knows how many times a year, why not make it a bit saucy!
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by I'mGivingYouARaise on Dec 20, 2011 12:01 AM EST up reply actions
Okay, I'm totally down with that.
Crapshoot style. Except the O’s will finish last no matter what.
Am I the only one flagging this guy?
Seriously, do we have to wait for the money shot or a "F*** THE SOXXXXXX!" before we ban him? Doubleteapot… BAN HIM!!
by AlohaSox on Sep 28, 2011 10:20 PM CDT
by SandalsNoPants on Dec 20, 2011 12:08 AM EST up reply actions
Cool
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by I'mGivingYouARaise on Dec 20, 2011 12:12 AM EST up reply actions
They lost wilson and replaced him with darvish. Wilson was 4 WAR pitcher, which means darvish is going to have to match that somehow in his first year. It’s not much of an upgrade for next year.
They have other young pitchers who may pick up some of the slack and possibly break out
Holland, for example, was a 3.6 fWAR last season. Would it be totally shocking to see him shoot up 1 WAR?
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by AlohaSox on Sep 28, 2011 10:20 PM CDT
by SandalsNoPants on Dec 20, 2011 12:10 AM EST up reply actions
Nope, just i’m just saying Darvish is in a sense replacing wilson though, so from that one to one stand point, it’s not a clear upgrade. Holland’s performance would be regardless of whether it’s Yu or Wilson pitching.
I understand what you're saying
but I disagree with that way of looking at it. Especially from a Rangers team standpoint. Yu replaces Wilson’s spot in the rotation, but the replacement for his value should be able to come to multiple players. He didn’t sign for THAT much money compared to what we were hearing earlier in the offseason. The other pitchers’ likeliness of progression was probably factored into letting him walk because his value was seen as replaceable if they made a key pick up (Darvish… or Garza or Latos, etc etc). Or I could be totally wrong.
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by AlohaSox on Sep 28, 2011 10:20 PM CDT
by SandalsNoPants on Dec 20, 2011 8:17 AM EST up reply actions
Best outcome
So he basically replaces CJ wilson? Not much of an upgrade for the Rangers to skimp out on wilson and pay 100+ mil for darvish
Next prediction
Tex deals a SP for a 1B.
by PortlandYankee on Dec 19, 2011 11:19 PM EST reply actions
51.7 is waaay too much.
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by Brandon C. on Dec 19, 2011 11:22 PM EST via mobile reply actions
Understatement of the year.
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by Frank Campagnola on Dec 20, 2011 2:08 AM EST up reply actions
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by I'mGivingYouARaise on Dec 19, 2011 11:24 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
I do like that this article will forever have “Bluejays Reportedly Land Yu Darvish” in the URL
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I really hope this doesn’t come back to bite us in the ass down the road. If he ends up being as good as some people think he’ll be, we really missed out on a once-in-a-lifetime opportunity.
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While it could've been nice to see the Sox possibly end up in 4th place
I’m glad the Rays have less of a chance to falling to that position.
Glad to not have the Jays ready to compete quite yet.
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by AlohaSox on Sep 28, 2011 10:20 PM CDT
by SandalsNoPants on Dec 19, 2011 11:40 PM EST reply actions
Why did it have to be the %$@#'n Claw and Antler side show
I can’t stand the Rangers, they are going to be an even bigger pain in the a$$ with Yu now.
Posting Fee: $51.7MM
Contract: $75MM-$90MM.
Total: $126.7MM-141.7MM
…all for a player who essentially dominated AAA for five years. That’s just unbelievably ridiculous.
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by Frank Campagnola on Dec 20, 2011 12:40 AM EST reply actions
So says you
But if it helps lead the Rangers to their first title, you think they’ll complain?
"Don't you think it's strange that you'll make more money than President Hoover this year?"
"Why not? I had a better year than he did." - G.H. Ruth
He's seeking a contract like that
Doesn’t mean he’ll get it
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by I'mGivingYouARaise on Dec 20, 2011 12:59 AM EST up reply actions
Can Darvish pitch 220 IP to 5WAR and 154 OPS+?
He’ll have to just to match what C.J. Wilson did for the Rangers in 2011.
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by William Juliano on Dec 20, 2011 12:49 AM EST reply actions
Can CJ Wilson pitch 220 IP to 5WAR and 154 OPS+?
I’m skeptical of him repeating that performance.
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by Andrew GM on Dec 20, 2011 12:56 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Above should be 154 ERA+
If Darvish can post 154 OPS+ too, the Rangers are getting a steal.
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by William Juliano on Dec 20, 2011 1:18 AM EST up reply actions
Fielder should give them a good 154 OPS+ or so
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by SoxAcumen on Aug 27, 2011 11:56 AM PDT
So Am I...
but 2012 Darvish is replacing 2011 Wilson, so in order for the Rangers to better on the basis of that one swap, the burden is on Darvish.
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by William Juliano on Dec 20, 2011 1:01 AM EST reply actions
I would say that the burden is also on the other young Rangers starters to make up for that lost WAR too, just as the 2011 Rangers had to make up from the loss of Cliff Lee, which they did.
Harrison is 26, Holland is 25, Ogando is 28, Feliz will be 24 in May, and Lewis is the old man at 32. This is still a young rotation, and I think Harrison & Holland gave the Rangers a lot of reason in 2011 to look forward to further development. I think the smart move will also be to put Ogando in the pen and Feliz in the rotation since Feliz has way more upside and has always been projected as a starter while Ogando’s season felt flukey.
I can definitely see a rotation of Darvish, Holland, Harrison, Feliz, Lewis equaling Wilson, Holland, Harrison, Lewis, Ogando.
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"Why not? I had a better year than he did." - G.H. Ruth
if you’re going to compare rotations with feliz in it, you also have to factor in the change in the bullpen. we’ll see if mike adams can step in. he kind of struggled down the stretch.
Mike Adams is still the setup guy
They signed Joe Nathan to close.
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"Why not? I had a better year than he did." - G.H. Ruth
this is what I was trying to say earlier.
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by AlohaSox on Sep 28, 2011 10:20 PM CDT
by SandalsNoPants on Dec 20, 2011 8:20 AM EST up reply actions
Any early guesses on the over under for Darvish's ERA or WAR next season?
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Any chance the Rangers could recoup a big chunk of the posting fee with Japanese advertisers?
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He won't be in Tex
Yu will not be in Tex for three reasons one he probley won’t want to pitch against king Albert also he won’t like the heat in Tex let’s face it hot, and the furthest thing from Japan in terms of wether also money no I am not saying they won’t pay him or can’t pay him because they can but I will make this state ment no way are they going to 75-85 mill even for 7 years why because to price would be to high he won’t be vary affective since he will be pitching agents the AL. Sorry NL we have better line up in the AL any ways the price will be vary high. So I will leav you with this have fun wasting your money Tex
I'm having a hard time following your ramble...
You start by saying he won’t play in Texas, but if he doesn’t, then no money will be wasted since the $51 mil would be returned to the Rangers if Darvish doesn’t sign.
Also it seems that your reasons for him not signing are
1) He won’t want to pitch to Pujols
2) It’s hot and it’s too different from Japan
3) Texas won’t pay him 75-85 mil for up to 7 years (with a random potshot at the NL in there)
Those are not good enough reasons…
1) Pujols is ONE player, why would that scare him away
2) Weather? Really? That’s a reason?
3) Yes they will. They have CJ Wilson/Cliff Lee money burning a hole in their pocket.
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"Why not? I had a better year than he did." - G.H. Ruth
Good one
Yes the money will be given back but my point at the end was if they did pay him. As I said he won’t just on the A.L and the heat in Tex is one of the hardest things to over come . But let’s just say the A.L is not a factor every one that pitches in Tex says it is one of the hardest things to do because you have to do every thing faster and to come to MLB and be forced to go harder to prep for the seastion in the heat. He would make me a believer if he won in Tex. So I hope this explains my ramble
by yankeefan8291 on Dec 21, 2011 2:29 PM EST up reply actions
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