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Around SBN: Yankees Deny Rumors That Team Is For Sale

New York Yankees News: Still Nothing

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With the rumor-mongering making it seem less and less likely that Yu Darvish is on the horizon, you'll probably be suffering through a lot more slow news days. The big free agent prizes, outside of Prince Fielder, who the Yankees seem very unlikely to pursue, have been bought up. I don't expect a big trade for a pitcher; what you see is what you're probably going to get.

The quiet offseason seems to indicate that even the Yankees have their limits. Before, their payroll limit was a myth, some theoretical construct that philosophy majors would bounce around a smoky room. Now, for at least the first couple of months of the offseason, it feels like a reality. The Yankees have $125 million committed to six players in 2013, all of whom will be 33 or older. That's not including the $28 million in options they'll likely pick up for Robinson Cano and Curtis Granderson, either. That would mean $153 million accounted for with 17 roster spots left to fill. You can see why they've held on to Jesus Montero like a can opener in a bomb shelter.

The quote is from Grant Brisbee of Baseball Nation, a site under the SBN umbrella that doesn't get nearly enough recognition for being awesome.

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I think Montero's offensive ceiling is Miguel Cabrera-type production.

It’s obviously too early to tell, but the Yankees need to keep him and use him as a catcher next year so he can continue to grow as a hitter and improve his defense.

Expect a .280/.360/.450 year from him with 15+ home runs and 70 RBI.

BSME

by Xavier10 on Dec 19, 2011 7:45 AM EST reply actions  

Depends on the amount of PA’s he gets, but easily attainable with 500+.

Romine!

by david d on Dec 19, 2011 10:18 AM EST up reply actions  

I love Grant's work, and Baseball Nation overall

The idiot formerly known as pkyankeefan! Now in Technicolour!

by Hasan Paliwala on Dec 19, 2011 8:04 AM EST via mobile reply actions  

Pitching

NYY can win with the pitching they have – they did it in 2011.

IF Nova comes back strong and does not regress.
IF either Hughes or AJ plays to potential (notice I only ask for one)
IF a AAA starter becomes the 2012 version of Nova
IF CC stays healthy

All in the realm of the possible. 2012 with this roster will be just fine. Now a Danks or other addition would be great but….not holding my breath.

Bring lawyers, guns and money to get me out of this one! Stand in the Fire.

by MSP Giant on Dec 19, 2011 9:09 AM EST reply actions  

Really, that’s all you can ask for. That’s all any team (other than the Phillies) can really ask for.

The Yankees are so good, and so deep, that they can survive a mediocre rotation. And as we know, the team with the best rotation on paper often doesn’t win the World Series.

Jesus Montero has to be a full-time catcher, or the Yankees have to trade him. One or the other. Based on the age and contracts of the other players on this team, that's the only place he fits long-term on the Yankees roster.

by 3460kuri on Dec 19, 2011 11:06 AM EST up reply actions  

7tony2

i agree yankees are the best
if they add anything they will be even better
try to get one more bat/pitcher

by 7tony2 on Dec 19, 2011 5:09 PM EST up reply actions  

Those are a lot of if's

But obviously they have enough talent to make the playoffs even if the rotation struggles…the problem is once they get there. People will say that starting pitching isn’t what cost us the Detroit series last year, which is true, but you can’t always count on your offense to win playoff games for you, even if your pitchers “keep you in it.” Sometimes you need that starter to be able to shut down the opposition, and that shut-down pitching is what we lack.

by Let's Talk About Tex Baby on Dec 19, 2011 11:07 AM EST up reply actions  

Trading Market

mlb.com has reported the pitchers on the market. The Rays have been reported to put David Price & James Shields on the market, and a good price can send them elsewhere. I wouldn’t mind seeing Price or Shields in pinstripes.

by yankeesfan1325* on Dec 19, 2011 9:28 AM EST reply actions  

They’re not going to trade either of them to the division rival Yankees without wanting something like Gardner, Montero, and Banuelos, at minimum.

Romine!

by david d on Dec 19, 2011 9:42 AM EST up reply actions  

Price would be unusual...

Everyone getting a feel for putting an Ace on the market. We should call there bluff and announce CC is also available along with Montero and Banuelos.

by Kansas Yankee on Dec 19, 2011 9:52 AM EST via mobile up reply actions  

well, we’re heavy in the catcher position…i would consider putting Phelps and Romine up for Price

by yankeesfan1325* on Dec 19, 2011 11:18 AM EST up reply actions  

Not the point

They’re not going to accept less. If you think they would take Phelps and Romine in a trade for Price I’ve got some land in Antarctica to sell ya.

Romine!

by david d on Dec 19, 2011 11:21 AM EST up reply actions  

im not just saying those 2, but i don’t think that you always have to give up a Montero or Manny

by yankeesfan1325* on Dec 19, 2011 11:33 AM EST up reply actions  

we have a lot of infelders..Russo, Pena, etc.
i get it’s not likely, but…

by yankeesfan1325* on Dec 19, 2011 11:33 AM EST up reply actions  

Russo and Pena are not prospects. There is no “but” here.

"Don't you think it's strange that you'll make more money than President Hoover this year?"
"Why not? I had a better year than he did." - G.H. Ruth

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by Andrew GM on Dec 19, 2011 11:35 AM EST up reply actions  

no crap they aren’t prospects

by yankeesfan1325* on Dec 19, 2011 11:37 AM EST up reply actions  

Then why in the hell would you think the Rays would be interested in them?

"Don't you think it's strange that you'll make more money than President Hoover this year?"
"Why not? I had a better year than he did." - G.H. Ruth

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by Andrew GM on Dec 19, 2011 11:59 AM EST up reply actions  

& there are “buts”
but there is always trying to acquire someone…Swisher is on a 1 year deal….we have good OF, and yea, he’s 38, but Johnny Damon is still there…he’s still a good player

by yankeesfan1325* on Dec 19, 2011 11:38 AM EST up reply actions  

what does this have to do with anything?

are you implying that we trade Swisher? The Rays would not be interested in a package surrounded by swisher in exchange for their cheap ace

by jetanumba2 on Dec 19, 2011 11:41 AM EST up reply actions  

i don’t want to trade him, but getting Price, and at the end of the season offering Swisher another contract is there

by yankeesfan1325* on Dec 19, 2011 11:43 AM EST up reply actions  

The Rays are not going to want Swisher

he’s too expensive for one year. They’d want Gardner, but we would just create another need that we would have to fill from outside the organization.

by jetanumba2 on Dec 19, 2011 11:46 AM EST up reply actions  

haha, they have no expensive players

by yankeesfan1325* on Dec 19, 2011 11:50 AM EST up reply actions  

For Price, it'd probably cost all three of Montero, Banuelos and Betances

He’s 26 and under team control for 4 more years, the first 2 of which at least should be pretty reasonable cost-wise. Plus the Rays would have to demand a premium for trading him to not only a division rival, but a division rival who has more fans in their home market than they do.

Yeah, I’m gonna say lets not hold our collective breath for that one.

by Let's Talk About Tex Baby on Dec 19, 2011 11:38 AM EST up reply actions  

I have to think it would actually cost more than that

Montero, Banuelos, Betances, Williams and Sanchez just because they’re in the same division and the Rays are actually competing.

by jetanumba2 on Dec 19, 2011 11:43 AM EST up reply actions  

The Rays are not going to give Price to us

for Romine, Phelps, Warren, Russo, Pena. Adding up all out crap does not equal their quality players. This package would not be enough even if Price was not in our division. The freaking San Diego Padres would laugh at such a silly package if they were looking to trade David Price. If The Reds had to trade their best prospects to trade outside of the division, we would have to trade a ton to get someone inside our division.

by jetanumba2 on Dec 19, 2011 11:38 AM EST up reply actions  

well the Reds were dumb to give all of those players up..i get there is a slim to no chance of getting Price, but they should at least touch base with the Rays.

by yankeesfan1325* on Dec 19, 2011 11:41 AM EST up reply actions  

i'm sure they have been in touch and they've said no deal.

I’m not sure the Reds were dumb for making that trade. They gave up a blocked first baseman, a relief prospect, an inconsistent pitcher and an extra catcher for a young, cost controlled ace

by jetanumba2 on Dec 19, 2011 11:45 AM EST up reply actions  

The Reds-Padres trade was also between separate divisions. The Rays are not trading Price/Shields, and they’re DEFINITELY not trading within their division unless they ask for the moon.

"Don't you think it's strange that you'll make more money than President Hoover this year?"
"Why not? I had a better year than he did." - G.H. Ruth

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by Andrew GM on Dec 19, 2011 12:02 PM EST up reply actions  

i don’t get why we don’t go after FA pitchers then…Edwin Jackson & Kuroda is still on the market..Kuroda would be around 10-12M for 1 year, & Jackson would be around 11M for 3-5 years

by yankeesfan1325* on Dec 19, 2011 12:23 PM EST up reply actions  

Jackson would be too much money too many years

if the Yankees want to start lowering their payroll they need to start relying on the cheap pitching in their system. Kuroda would be very useful but perhaps they think they are set

by jetanumba2 on Dec 19, 2011 12:43 PM EST up reply actions  

yea, & that ERA is always near 4, WHIP is up, but he eats up innings, and gives you strikeouts…I wouldn’t go after him though..every good pitcher is going to be a FA next year, so go after Kuroda for a 1 year deal

by yankeesfan1325* on Dec 19, 2011 12:54 PM EST up reply actions  

I would be surprised if Kuroda accepts a 1-year deal.

"Don't you think it's strange that you'll make more money than President Hoover this year?"
"Why not? I had a better year than he did." - G.H. Ruth

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by Andrew GM on Dec 19, 2011 1:03 PM EST up reply actions  

that’s what he said that he would want, and he already said that he wouldn’t mind pitching on the east coast

by yankeesfan1325* on Dec 19, 2011 2:02 PM EST up reply actions  

I believe they do like Kuroda. Haven’t heard much about EJax, but while I think he would be a good investment, I don’t think the Yanks want to give out a 4 or 5 year contract right now, which is what he’d ask for.

Kuroda’s more likely since I think they could get away with a 2 or 3 year deal for him and he seems okay.

"Don't you think it's strange that you'll make more money than President Hoover this year?"
"Why not? I had a better year than he did." - G.H. Ruth

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by Andrew GM on Dec 19, 2011 1:02 PM EST up reply actions  

Definitely no more than a year for Kuroda

He’s 37 and has only pitched in the most pitcher-friendly division in baseball. In fact, I don’t even want him for one year because I don’t think he’s worth giving up on Hughes for.

by Let's Talk About Tex Baby on Dec 19, 2011 1:45 PM EST up reply actions  

They gave u alot but...

They needed a #2 starter (sounds familiar). Most of these high prospects would not have made an impact for them this year anyway. Doubt they regret the trade.

by Kansas Yankee on Dec 19, 2011 1:48 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

It’s more than not likely, it’s not happening. They would absolutely start with Montero AND ManBan and go from there. I can’t believe this is even a discussion.

Jesus Montero fangirl

by WhatwouldJeterdo on Dec 19, 2011 12:19 PM EST up reply actions  

MLB.com did not say anything about Romine, Phelps, Pena, and Russo for David Price.

Jesus Montero fangirl

by WhatwouldJeterdo on Dec 19, 2011 7:41 PM EST up reply actions  

I already checked that out, too. Didn’t even want to bother responding…

Romine!

by david d on Dec 19, 2011 7:54 PM EST up reply actions  

Haha, checking it out wasn’t even necessary. Bleacher Report would have to stretch to come up with that one.

Jesus Montero fangirl

by WhatwouldJeterdo on Dec 19, 2011 8:59 PM EST up reply actions  

and they would laugh and laugh and laugh at that offer.

seriously, it’s going to take more than an offer for Banuelos & Montero. don’t even consider it.

"Don't you think it's strange that you'll make more money than President Hoover this year?"
"Why not? I had a better year than he did." - G.H. Ruth

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by Andrew GM on Dec 19, 2011 11:21 AM EST up reply actions  

LOL

One more thing Boston is a racist town? YOU DONT SAY?!?!?!?!?
by SoxAcumen on Aug 27, 2011 11:56 AM PDT

by Briceratops on Dec 19, 2011 2:23 PM EST up reply actions  

Tampa is never going to do a trade with New York where they don’t fleece the Yankees, and that’s a fact.

"Don't you think it's strange that you'll make more money than President Hoover this year?"
"Why not? I had a better year than he did." - G.H. Ruth

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by Andrew GM on Dec 19, 2011 11:17 AM EST up reply actions  

breaking news

As per Twitter (multiple souces), the NHF will accept the Darvish bid, with the annoucement to come at 8 or 9 Eastern time tonight (so Tuesday morning Japan time). I don’t know if that means they’ll also announce the team, but I’m guessing the Darvish mania will be more less over in about 12 hours.

by long time listener on Dec 19, 2011 9:49 AM EST reply actions  

The suspense is killing me

Romine!

by david d on Dec 19, 2011 9:50 AM EST up reply actions  

I'll be glad when it's over

I said that about my second marriage, too.

by long time listener on Dec 19, 2011 9:56 AM EST up reply actions  

The new CBA is killing the top- spending teams of 2011.

The luxury tax is now high enough to actually dissuade the Yankees and Red Sox from spending any more than they now are. This has given teams that were spending in the low $100s of millions to step in and chase players NY, BOS, and PHI would ordinarily outspendthem to get. This, along with the fact that this is a relatively weak free agent group compared to next year’s (and the year after’s) practically guarantees that the Yankees (and Red Sox) stand still while teams in a position to spend (Texas, Miami, Toronto and even the Rays if they choose to) get the big name players.

Yankee fans, this is how the other half has lived for the last 0 years, and it isn’t fun, is it? Being reduced to hoping someone in AAA steps up, or a castoff like Garcia or a question mark like Hughes comes through- that’s what poor teams do.

The next two and a half months will b the most boring of your lives. P- you’re right that in this cheapo atmosphere, Montero is probably going nowehere else. Wake me up at the end of March.

by designatedquitter on Dec 19, 2011 10:45 AM EST reply actions  

Eh I don’t care that much. Offseason splashes are nice but they are fleeting and after a day it gets boring as crap again.

"Don't you think it's strange that you'll make more money than President Hoover this year?"
"Why not? I had a better year than he did." - G.H. Ruth

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by Andrew GM on Dec 19, 2011 11:18 AM EST up reply actions  

Being reduced to Triple AAA

That’s how you get younger and reduce your payroll too. I am tired of teams either taking the money from luxury tax and sitting on it or using it against us. Lets see how well they perform without our yearly check. I think the balance will swing back to us than. Ready and waiting for AAA studs to step up!

by Kansas Yankee on Dec 19, 2011 1:54 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

Didn't realize the tax went up

What happens to the teams that were depending on that cash for funding? Seems like the really small market teams get crushed if the yankees don’t spend

by NYYankeeDude on Dec 19, 2011 2:28 PM EST up reply actions  

Grant Brisbee & Jeff Sullivan are easily some of the best writers out there and it’s a crime that the BBWAA doesn’t consider the website legit. Stupid old farts bitter about their dying paper business…

"Don't you think it's strange that you'll make more money than President Hoover this year?"
"Why not? I had a better year than he did." - G.H. Ruth

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by Andrew GM on Dec 19, 2011 11:23 AM EST reply actions  

Why’s that?

Follow me on twitter @nyybrandonc

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by Brandon C. on Dec 19, 2011 12:47 PM EST up reply actions  

You sure?

I cant find such an article, but before the season he projected Cano to be the second baseman of the decade over Pedroia, et. al.

"Don't you think it's strange that you'll make more money than President Hoover this year?"
"Why not? I had a better year than he did." - G.H. Ruth

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by Andrew GM on Dec 19, 2011 1:27 PM EST up reply actions  

I sense that someone reads the Dr. Saturday college football blog on Yahoo Sports…

by bloppy_ploppy on Dec 19, 2011 6:43 PM EST reply actions  

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