The 10 Greatest Yankees (not in the Hall of Fame)
In addition to the Hot Stove, baseball warms up the winter months with Hall of Fame debate. From the time the ballot is released until the votes are counted in early January, arguments are made for and against various candidates, often with a considerable degree of disagreement and usually with some form of exaggeration. As a result, for those players on the borderline, the process can be somewhat demeaning.
This year, Bernie Williams is making his first appearance on the ballot, and judging by popular sentiment, he isn't likely to come close to enshrinement. Although Williams' case deserves much closer scrutiny than many seem willing to give, as a borderline candidate, there really is no right or wrong answer regarding his candidacy. With that in mind, it seems more appropriate to consider the best players who are not in the Hall of Fame instead of trying to determine which of them actually belong.
At the Baseball: Past and Present blog, Graham Womack recently completed a survey based on exactly that premise. For the second straight year, Womack polled an electorate made up of baseball writers and researchers and compiled the results into a ranking of the 50 best players not in the Hall of Fame. Included in this baseball version of purgatory were several players who spent most of their careers in pinstripes, prompting a further question: who are the 10 best eligible Yankees without a plaque in Cooperstown?
In order to answer that question, we first need to define who qualifies as a Yankee. A player like Tim Raines, for example, wore pinstripes for three years, but if inducted, he would undoubtedly enter the Hall of Fame wearing an Expos cap. Therefore, the bar was set high for inclusion. Either a player had to play half his games with the Yankees, or appear in more seasons with the Bronx Bombers than any other team. This strict criteria eliminated several recent prominent Yankees, such as Mike Mussina and Jason Giambi, who most people probably still think of as a member of the Orioles and Athletics, respectively.
With the criteria set, the next phase included combining Womack's subjective approach with a stat-based qualification. For simplicity's sake, this was accomplished by first ranking the top-15 non-enshrined Yankees by baseball-reference.com's version of WAR and then weighting each player's portion of the cumulative total. Then, the votes from the survey were tallied for the same group of 15 players and a similar weighting was applied. Finally, the two ratios were combined, averaged and ranked, from which the top-10 was extracted. That list is presented below as the best Yankees who are not in the Hall of Fame.
Top-10 Yankees Not in the Hall of Fame, Based on WAR and Survey
Note: In order to qualify, a player had to play at least half his games in pinstripes, or appear in more seasons as a Yankee than for any other team. Each weighting is a player's percentage of the total.
Source: baseball-reference.com and baseballpastandpresent.com
1. Tommy John - P
Perhaps better known to some by the surgery that bears his name, Tommy John was also an accomplished pitcher whose 26 seasons on the mound rank behind only Nolan Ryan. John's 288 victories (124 before the surgery and 164 after) also stand as the highest total by any pitcher not enshrined in Cooperstown. His 91 wins as a Yankees is more than he had with any other team and includes back-to-back 20-win seasons in 1979 and 1980, making him the last pinstriped hurler to accomplish that feat.
2. Don Mattingly - 1B
During what was a relatively dark period in Yankees' history, Don Mattingly was a beacon in the Bronx. From 1984 to 1989, Mattingly anchored the Yankees' formidable offense, and during those six seasons ranked among the likes of Wade Boggs, Cal Ripken and Rickey Henderson as one of the best players in the game. With an MVP, batting title, silver sluggers, and a string of Gold Gloves, Mattingly seemed destined for Cooperstown, but a degenerative back injury took its toll on the latter half of his career. If it was up to me alone, Mattingly wouldn't even be on this list because he'd already have been elected to the Hall. Of course, that's emotion talking, but Yankees fans who grew up in the 1980s can surely sympathize.
3. Graig Nettles - 3B
When most people think of Graig Nettles, defense pops to mind first. Dodgers' manager Tommy Lasorda will likely never forget his fielding display in the 1978 World Series. However, Nettles was also a very potent hitter, compiling 390 homeruns and 1,314 RBIs during his 22-year career, half of which were spent in the Bronx. Among all Yankees who are not in the Hall of Fame, Nettles' WAR of 61.6 is the highest.
4. Bernie Williams - CF
Bernie Williams was an instrumental part of the Yankees' recent dynasty, but his contribution is sometimes overshadowed by the exploits of his more heralded teammates. However, during his prime years, Williams was the Yankees' best player. Batting in the middle of the Bronx Bombers' lineup, Williams never posted a wOBA below .385 from 1995 to 2002, while racking up four gold gloves in centerfield (even though modern metrics discount Williams' defense, the extreme to which they do so seems suspect). In addition to his exploits during the regular season, Williams ranks either first or second all-time in post season hits, homeruns, RBIs, runs, and total bases.
5. Willie Randolph - 2B
Despite being a fan favorite, Willie Randolph often gets lost in Yankees' history. With the exception of his 1980 campaign, when he led the league with 119 walks and posted a wOBA of .392, the Yankees' second baseman was seldom spectacular, but always steady. Among all players who played at least 75% of their games at second base, Randolph's WAR of 60.5 ranks 10th, just a shade behind Hall of Famers like Roberto Alomar and Ryne Sandberg and ahead of several others.
6. Thurman Munson - C
It's hard not to talk about Thurman Munson and not dwell on what might have been. If not for the tragic plane crash that claimed his life, it seems highly likely the Yankees' fiery catcher would have compiled a resume suitable for framing in Cooperstown. Even though his career came to end too soon, Munson still boasts a list of impressive accomplishments, including an MVP, Rookie of the Year award, three gold gloves, and a stellar line of .357/.378/.496 in 135 post season plate appearances.
7. Ron Guidry - P
Most borderline Hall of Fame candidates are derailed by rapid decline or injuries later in their careers, but Ron Guidry's main culprit was a late start. For several years, the Yankees didn't quite know what to do with the diminutive lefty, but once they inserted him into the starting rotation, the decision paid immediate dividends. From 1977 to 1985, Guidry recorded 154 victories, more than any other pitcher in the majors, winning one Cy Young and finishing top-5 three other times. Unfortunately, his delayed ascent to the majors was compounded by a balky elbow, which also robbed him of his twilight years.
8. Roger Maris - RF
For many, Roger Maris' career can be summed up with one number: 61. However, the right fielder accomplished much more than just that one record. Not many people realize that in addition to winning the MVP in the record setting 1961, he also won the award the year before. Maris remained a key member of the Yankees for five more seasons following his pursuit of the Babe, ranking second to only Mickey Mantle in every major category during his time in pinstripes. Maris ended his career with two more productive seasons in St. Louis, and helped lead the Cardinals to a championship in 1967 by hitting .385/.433/.526 in the World Series, but he'll always be remembered as half of the Yankees' fabled M&M Boys.
9. Charlie Keller - LF
Charlie Keller's OPS+ of 153 is the 28th highest rate in baseball history among all players with at least 3,000 plate appearances. Unfortunately, his playing time was very limited. King Kong Keller only managed five seasons with at least 500 plate appearances, and in each one ranked among the league leaders in WAR and OPS+. Also, in all but one of those seasons, he made the All Star team and garnered MVP consideration. Keller not only lost two prime years to military service, but also saw his career dramatically altered by a back injury in 1947. Before coming down with the ailment, Keller had picked up where he left off before entering the military, posting an OPS+ of 159 in 1946 and 165 over the first 45 games of 1947. Although he remained productive in very limited roles after injuring his back, his chances at making the Hall of Fame were derailed. Keller's brief career doesn't merit induction, nor does it place him atop this list, but purely based on talent, as exemplified by his numbers, a case could be made that he is the best player not in the Hall of Fame.
10. Tommy Henrich - RF
Along with Keller, Tommy Henrich flanked Joe DiMaggio on the great Yankees' teams of the late-1930s and 1940s, so it's easy to understand why both are often overlooked. However, Old Reliable, as he was affectionately called, more than held up his end. In 11 seasons, all spent in pinstripes, Henrich regularly posted an OPS+ well above average, culminating in a career rate of 132. His accomplishments were also recognized with five All Star Game appearances and five years with MVP consideration. If not for his late start in the majors, and three seasons lost to military service, Henrich, like Keller, might not be eligible for this list.
The Yankees have had so many great players that one can still construct a formidable team even when selecting from among those not in the Hall of Fame. In addition to the names mentioned above, players like Roy White, Roger Pekinpaugh, Paul O'Neill, Eddie Lopat and Allie Reynolds are all deserving of an honorable mention. And, a strong case could be made that they belong on the list above, but that's what the comments section is for. So, who are your top-10 Yankees outside of the Hall of Fame?
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Nice article, williamnyy
I really hope you are wrong about Bernie, but I suspect you aren’t. He is strongly associated with that Yankees dynasty whose popular perception was as a “great team”, and not a team of great players. Which is ironic, since Jeter and Mo won’t suffer from that association, and one could argue the same for Posada. Maybe it’s because those three were all pretty young during the dynasty years, while Bernie, Tino, and Paul were in their primes?
I would love to see Mattingly and Munson in the HOF, especially.
After that, perhaps Nettles.
this isn't DRB
you don’t get a free pass for acting like a douchebag.
Derp
by Pikachu on Dec 11, 2011 2:44 PM CST up reply actions
My list
1. Nettles
2. Randolph
3. Munson
4. John
5. Williams
6. Keller
7. Guidry
8. Henrich
9. Gil McDougald
10. Elston Howard
Nope
I love Donnie, but he was a great player for four years, and did not have a great career for a first baseman, where the talent pool is much deeper. I like to look at players and compare them to those at their position (apples to apples)., and he doesn’t compare will historically to other first basemen.
by cookiedabookie on Dec 18, 2011 9:18 PM EST up reply actions
If they ever opened a Hall Of Very Good, these guys would all get in
Mattingly is the player that got me into this great game and I would argue that in 85-86 he wasnt just one of the best players in the game, he was the best player in the game. But he doesnt belong in the Hall. Im hoping he does well as a manager and gets in for that.
Willie Randolph’s numbers dont look awesome compared with todays second baseman, but back in the 80s I would put him and Lou Whitaker up there as the AL’s best 2B. Had there not been such an offensive explosion at the position in the late 90s and beyond, Randolph may have had a better chance to get in.
Like Bert Blyleven, I feel that John was a decent pitcher but not hall of fame caliber. While I dont discount wins as much as some do, I feel more that he was a compiler than an ace.
As far as Bernie goes, I think he is the most overlooked guy from the late 90s dynasty. Sure, Yankees fans dont overlook him but others like the media go with that Core Four crap and leave out probably the most important player from those championship years. Im also not sure why Bernie’s defense is all of sudden looked down on. During his prime years, Bernie was a very good centerfielder. He will fall short of making the Hall but he deserves some votes.
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Randolph was one the best second basemen in the history of the game
13th best all time at the position. That is a Hall of Famer, no doubt, for me.
by cookiedabookie on Dec 18, 2011 9:20 PM EST up reply actions
You could make a good HOF case for Nettles
The # of HOF 3b is very small (just grew by one with Santo) and Nettles is right at the top of the next group. The others I agree are in the Hall of the Very Good as numerous here have said.
Really don't see that one
A career slash line of .248/.329/..421 and he had an OPS over .800 3 times in a 21-year career, capping out .829. He compares favorably to Brooks Robinson from an offensive perspective, but his numbers aren’t HOF worthy.
by Let's Talk About Tex Baby on Dec 18, 2011 12:20 AM EST up reply actions
Nettles was better than Brooks offensively
But not nearly as good defensively. Nettles was the 11th best third baseman of all time, definitely a Hall of Famer for me. He was a great hitter for a third baseman, and a great fielder, for a long time.
by cookiedabookie on Dec 18, 2011 9:22 PM EST up reply actions
Well this settles it
Put Bernie in the HOF and retire his name. I’mGivingYouAnUltimatum!
"WHO WOULD LEAD?! THE CLOWN?!"
by I'mGivingYouARaise on Dec 17, 2011 4:15 PM EST reply actions
And I meant retire his #
But why not retire his name as well? He’s just that awesome!
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by I'mGivingYouARaise on Dec 17, 2011 4:15 PM EST up reply actions
It’s nice to know that a “dark period” in Yankees history consists of a .547 winning percentage from ‘80-’89. Those teams weren’t as bad as they’re made out to be, and if I’m not mistaken the Yankees might have had the highest winning percentage in baseball throughout that decade.
There were a lot of unlucky seasons, too, such as having back to back 90+ win seasons in ’85 and ’86 and missing the playoffs.
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by Frank Campagnola on Dec 17, 2011 5:40 PM EST reply actions
1985- the Yanks won I think 98 games and missed the playoffs because Toronto was ridiculous. Alas, they lost to an 80-something win Royals team in the ALCS (blowing a 3-1 series lead). Such is baseball.
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"Why not? I had a better year than he did." - G.H. Ruth
I have to agree with this
Had there been a wild card back in the 80s, the Yankees might have a few more titles.
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I agree with you...
That’s why I carefully put the word “relatively” in from of dark period. As GMSII was fond of telling anyone who would listen, the Yankees were the “winningest” team in the 1980s. Unfortunately, it was also one of the few decades (1900s, 1910s, and 1980s) without a championship.
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by William Juliano on Dec 17, 2011 5:45 PM EST reply actions
Cool article
brings back some great memories!!
I think Guidry, Donnie, Munson, and Maris are all doomed by the same issue… shortened careers. Their peaks were as big and bright as anyone’s but didn’t sustain it long enough for the hall voters. I really think they all deserve to be there and hope they get in eventually, tho it seems unlikely.
John I feel like is a guy who was great, but not legendary, for a long, long, long time. In which case, if we penalize the previous group for that, don’t we have to celebrate TJ for it? I kinda put Willie and Bernie in that same group too… great, awesome, but not legendary enough to stand out in their generations.
Nettles is simple, he should be in, that he’s not is just a shame on MLB, though he’s far from the only one.
Keller & Henrich, well, I really don’t know enough to comment.
Top Ten list partial
John deserves to be in. While not a ‘spectacular’ pitcher, he was probably in the top ten during his most productive years (quite a few) and always solid and frequently very, very good. 288 is impressive no matter how long it took.
Donnie Baseball’s batting statistics compare quite favorably with HOF’er Kirby Puckett, virtually identical. His defense was unquestionably outstanding and made a huge impact on the Yankees and the position in general.
Thurman belongs! Sorry to those that disagree with me, but nothing can change my mind.
Guidry’s 5 straight Cy Young worthy consideration seasons and post season stats say yes. Though I’m sure its not enough.
Bernie Williams was the most feared Yankee hitter in an otherwise balanced lineup for many years. His post season stats alone say he belongs.
Nettles belongs. Superballs falling out of his bat aside, it did happen btw, he was a clutch hitter, HR king and one of the best defensive thirdbaseman of his era.
Maybe it's a generational thing
But I don’t know many people who think of Mussina as an Oriole, for what it’s worth.
"Don't you think it's strange that you'll make more money than President Hoover this year?"
"Why not? I had a better year than he did." - G.H. Ruth
I do, and I watched his entire Yankees career.
Why wouldn’t you? He was better in Baltimore and pitched quite a bit more there. You probably just know more Yankees fans. I have a feeling most other baseball fans think of him as an O.
this isn't DRB
you don’t get a free pass for acting like a douchebag.
Derp
by Pikachu on Dec 11, 2011 2:44 PM CST up reply actions
by SandalsNoPants on Dec 17, 2011 11:44 PM EST up reply actions
Ten seasons vs eight, with one of those ten being his rookie year with all of twelve starts…
by MichaelGGBGrabow on Dec 18, 2011 4:03 PM EST up reply actions
I'm not dissing Munson...
…because he certainly was great…but I have a feeling his numbers might have taken a huge dive over time due to his bad knees. Of course, that would still have been preferable to how his career actually ended.
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