Potential Trade Candidate: Chad Billingsley
by Brandon C. on Nov 3, 2011 12:30 PM EDT
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PrintI recently emailed Eric Stephen from True Blue LA, the Los Angeles Dodgers' SB Nation website, about the possibility of the Yankees trading for Chad Billingsley. Below are the questions and answers.
BC: Would you call Chad Billingsley "available?"
ES: I think the Dodgers would listen to offers but won't actively be shopping Billingsley. As it stands right now, their starting staff is Clayton Kershaw, Billingsley, and Ted Lilly. They are waiting on a decision from Hiroki Kuroda on whether he will come back to the Dodgers or go back to Japan, but with or without Kuroda their rotation would be razor thin without Billingsley.
BC: Would you call Billingsley's 2011 season a disappointment? Do you think the Dodgers upper management would call it a disappointment?
ES: Yes, it was a disappointment. It wasn't necessarily a bad season, but as a whole Billingsley was just rather ordinary, and his finish to the season was especially bad (4.85 ERA, 33 walks, 38 strikeouts in 59 innings over his last 11 starts). Manager Don Mattingly and Billingsley too both expressed disappointment in the way Billingsley finished the year, but with the hope that Billingsley is still young enough and talented enough to turn things around.
BC: What types of prospects are the Dodgers looking for?
ES: Generally, the Dodgers are actually fairly deep in pitching prospects, but lacking in advanced hitting prospects. Their organizational depth at third base especially is very poor.
BC: Propose a trade that would get the Yankees Billingsley?
ES: Jesus Montero.
BC: Any other proposals/pitchers available that the Yankees may be interested in?
ES: Can I interest you in a Ted Lilly? He has a mere two years and $25.5 million left on his deal. A former Yankee...
BC: How much could/will the ownership situation affect any possible deal?
ES: I don't expect many major moves by the Dodgers this offseason. It's hard to know just how quickly a new owner can be in place, but it doesn't seem likely to have one in place before spring training. I don't think there will be a mandate or anything to cut payroll, so the odds of a Billingsley deal are unaffected, in my opinion, by the ownership situation.
Thanks again to Eric for answering the questions! I do not expect anyone here to agree Montero for Billingsley, but is there a counter proposal you would like to make? Thoughts?
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Billingsly
is not one of the pitchers for whom I’d consider trading Montero. This is almost laughable.
Romine!
I'd pass.
I’d give them Dellin Betances for Chad Billingsley
I wouldn't.
I’d trade Betences but not for friggin Billingsley
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so you want to just get rid of him for a waste like Billingsley?
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Trade a high upside guy who is under team control for a middle of the rotation starter in the last year of his deal?
Yeah, that’s a waste.
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by Jedi Master A-Rod on Nov 3, 2011 4:01 PM EDT up reply actions
I would disagree, but you're entitled to your opinion.
I also believe Betances will end up being a reliever while others don’t have the same opinion.
Billingsley or Dellin?
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by Jedi Master A-Rod on Nov 3, 2011 4:37 PM EDT up reply actions
OK, I didn’t see they had signed him to a deal.
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by Jedi Master A-Rod on Nov 3, 2011 4:39 PM EDT up reply actions
Billingsley’s contract is through 2014. Perhaps the facts might help your “argument”.
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Pretty sure that was corrected directly above, thanks.
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by Jedi Master A-Rod on Nov 4, 2011 3:54 PM EDT up reply actions
No problem. Also, looking before just this season, Billingsley is more of a number 2 pitcher than middle of the rotation pitcher. No doubt he’d be the Yankees number 2 if he came to NY.
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He probably would
But a #2 starter is not something worth trading Montero for. Especially when there are better options on the free agent market that can be obtained for just money.
Let us all congratulate the Boston Red Sox for becoming the first World Champions in the history of sports to NOT make the postseason! Thats not easy to do!
I love how much Billingsley gets underated because he had an average season
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I love how a Dodgers fan comes over here to convince Yankees fans that they should trade for Billingsley
If you like him that much, you should be happy if the Yankees undervalue him, no?
by waw on Nov 4, 2011 4:11 PM EDT up reply actions
...then I finished reading your post
by MichaelGGBGrabow on Nov 3, 2011 3:53 PM EDT up reply actions
It is a great idea
Don’t you think?
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by Livestrong77nyy on Nov 3, 2011 5:19 PM EDT up reply actions
I like Billingsley
But seriously. Jesus Montero? Replace Billingsley with Kershaw and don’t add anything else. Then we have a deal.
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that trade is just as crazy.
they wouldn’t give up Kershaw.
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by TheRealSlimShady on Nov 3, 2011 9:35 PM EDT up reply actions
that might be a decent trade for them if montero hits his potential,
which, while certainly possible is far from definite.
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Just thought I'd throw this out there
Kershaw is a top 5 pitcher in baseball, only 23 and only getting better. Montero wouldn’t be a main player in a trade discussion for Kershaw, Cano would be that guy if the Yankees were interested.
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This
is all that needs to be said.
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by Livestrong77nyy on Nov 3, 2011 5:20 PM EDT up reply actions
Change the name on the back of his jersey to "Montero"
They wouldn’t notice the difference, would they?
It’s funny the way that whenever we covet an unavailable NL pitcher, the response (probably fueled by the inherent obnoxiousness of the whole thing) is “fine, then give us Montero.” Like we would ask for Kershaw if some Dodgers fan came inquiring about trading for Robinson Cano.
My question is this: If Montero is so hopeless as a defensive catcher and his only future is as a DH, why would any NL teams have any interest in him? To pinch hit off the bench? I don’t think so.
Why is it that rosterbating fans and rival GMs will say in one sentence “Jesus Montero will never stick at catcher” and then in the next sentence “If you want [Player X], you’re going to have to give us Montero.” Clearly, there’s a good chance that he can play a position well enough to still be an asset, given how he is expected to hit.
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They'd probably plan to move him to first base
Most teams don’t have All-Star first baseman locked up to long term deals, and therefore would actually have the option of moving him there if they didn’t think he could catch.
He’s either a catcher or a DH on the Yankees. But a move to first base certainly could be an option for other teams, including NL teams if he were traded there. Thats the only other position it would make sense for him to play.
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Good lord, no on Montero for Billingsley.
Montero is going to be a monster with the bat. The Yankees should do everything humanly possible to get him 120-130 starts behind the plate. The only 3 pitchers the Yanks should even CONSIDER trading Montero for are Felix Hernandez, Justin Verlander and Clayton Kershaw.
yeah, pretty much this
Though I suppose I might not say “no” if the Phillies offered us all of the Four Horsemen for Montero!
I understand he's an awesome prospect and everything
But did he not OPS just over .800 in AAA this season? I know it’s not everything, but it’s not something that should be overlooked.
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Billingsley, nah I pass
IMO, he’s not worth it because he’s been underperforming expectations for the past few years. At some point, you know what kind of player you have, and he’s not getting any better.
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