What My MVP Ballot Would Look Like
Justin Verlander won the MVP Award, and many people are questioning if Verlander deserved the award or not. The top five went: Verlander, Jacoby Ellsbury, Jose Bautista, Curtis Granderson, and Miguel Cabera.
I have commented my personal ballot multiple times, but after reading through some tweets and comments, I have heard enough to change it.
First of all, I have always believed the ballot should say that pitchers cannot win the MVP award. A rule of no pitchers winning the award would remove a lot of unnecessary sixth-tenth place votes for relief pitchers and starters. Simply, the pitchers have their own award, the Cy Young Award. Batters cannot win the Cy Young, pitchers should not be allowed to win the MVP, even if the award needs a name change.
That being said, pitchers can win the MVP, so Justin Verlander, an outstanding pitcher that had a great season, did.
After the jump I will write my ballot and an explanation for the ballot.
1. Jose Bautista- I originally thought that non-playoff teams players should not win the award, but when the award says "Most Valuable Player," it is not saying most value to a playoff team, but instead most valuable overall. I am not a fan of Jose Bautista at all, but the Toronto Blue Jays would have positively affected by his play more than any other team was by any other player.2. Miguel Cabrera- Cabrera hit .385/.470/.630 after the all-star break, including .390/.454/.552 in August, and .429/.532/.758 in September. Those numbers, plus the fact that Cabrera is an every day player, add up to Cabrera being more valuable than Justin Verlander in the Tigers' season.
3. Jacoby Ellsbury- What many voters seem to not understand is that the Boston Red Sox collapsed despite Ellsbury, not because of Ellsbury. Ellsbury hit .358/.400/.667 in September for the struggling Red Sox. The speedy outfielder was a 30/30 player, and also played outstanding defense. The only knock I have against Ellsbury is that there were multiple other players in that lineup that helped him out, more so than the Tigers' or the Blue Jays' lineups.
4. Justin Verlander- I am against Verlander even being an option, but as long as he is, I have to give him a spot on the ballot. I question whether or not the Tigers would have made the playoffs without the ace of their staff (leaning towards they would) and that is more than I can say for the #5 player on the ballot. Verlander did not play every day, and that hurts his case in my eyes.
5. Curtis Granderson- Over the last month I have moved Granderson increasingly further away from the top spot on my ballot. Granderson originally had the top spot, but his case is hurt by a .300 OBP in September, as well as his help from Robinson Cano.
6. Robinson Cano- I was very close to putting Cano ahead of Granderson, and Cano should not be ignored. I expect Cano to be a top three candidate next year.
7. Michael Young- Young's case is explained here by a writer that actually voted for Young for first place.
8. Adrian Gonzalez- The Red Sox' next best hitter after Jacoby Ellsbury, Gonzalez led the Red Sox in the first half of the season. His worse, but still great, play in the second half is the reason Gonzalez is not higher on this list.
9. James Shields- If Justin Verlander gets a spot, why not James Shields? Big game James lived up to his moniker in 2011, posting a 3.29 ERA vs. Boston, a 2.33 ERA vs. the Yankees, and a 0.53 ERA vs. the Texas Rangers. Shields' eight wins after the all-star break helped lead the Rays to the playoffs.
10. David Robertson- Folks, I have to put Robertson on this list. Once Robertson came into the game for the Yankees, the game seemed over. With Rafael Soriano's struggles, Robertson carried the bullpen, and helped lead the Yankees to the division title.
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you put David Robertson on the lsit but not C.C. Sabathia who was ahead of Verlander and Shields in WAR
Mcelroy is better than Sanchez
I meant list not lsit
Mcelroy is better than Sanchez
There are a ton of players that are more deserving than David Robertson and Michael Young
Pedroia, Kinsler, and Longoria need to be in the top ten.
by Briceratops on Nov 21, 2011 10:37 PM EST up reply actions
What about Sabathia who was more valuable to the yankees than Robertson
Mcelroy is better than Sanchez
the main problem with the award
is that every voters treats the word valuable differently. Cy Young votes are easier because they are statistical based, it is what it is.
“VALUABLE” means different things to different people. Did they “help” their team to the playoffs? Were they the best overall player in the leauge? Did they post the most impressive stats? Some people say its easier to play for a losing team because theres nothing to play for, other say its harder because you have to get up and play every day for nothing and that makes it more impressive.
It wouldnt be that much of an issue over who was voted for what except when it affects bonuses and salaries down the road.
Should a pitcher win the MVP? I saw someone say it should be a dual award because hitters also have the silver slugger / hank aaron award, etc. However, the 2 biggest awards and most remembered awards every year are Cy Young and MVP. I think you could argue either way. Personally, i look at the Tigers and see they won the division by 15 games. Verlander wins accounted for 24 of the Tigers. Would the Tigers have been worse without him? Absolutely. Would they have been more than 15 games worse? I highly doubt it. So i dont like the argument that Tigers wouldnt have gone to the playoffs without Verlander. Personally i prefer a pitcherless MVP selection, but i understand arguments for them.
Id have to say Cabrera deserved the award more than Verlander based on his daily impact, and Bautista was impressive for how he played without much of a supporting cast.
My problem with verlander is that he is th efirst pitcher in 25 years to win that award
yet in the past 25 years, there have been farm more dominate pitchers with better numbers other than the stupid W-L that did not win it. Ex: Pedro in 1999/2000…you can even make a case that as recent as 2009 Grienke was far better than verlander in all departments except win-loss.
Why Bautista? He slowed down considerably down the stretch and by the end of the season, Jacoby Ellsbury surpassed him over a win (9.4! to 8.3). His team missed the playoffs by one game despite Ellsbury carrying that team down the stretch (.358/.400/.667 in September).
Also, why Miggy? He put up great – and I mean great – numbers but he doesn’t play a premium position and his defense at that non-premium position was very poor. His baserunning was crappy, too.
For me, if I’m giving it to the best player in the AL, it’s Ellsbury. Outstanding defense, went 30-30, hit for a high average, great OBP, scored and drove in a ton of runs. He did everything.
If I’m giving it to a member of a playoff team, it’s Granderson for me. Plays a premium position, and plays it well. His UZR doesn’t tell the whole story – a few botched plays in the sun and roof at The Trop lowered it considerably. Nearly a .400 wOBA. 41 homers, led all of baseball in runs scored, and led the AL in RBI.
It really comes down to the individual’s definition of “Valuable.”
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by Frank Campagnola on Nov 21, 2011 7:01 PM EST reply actions
I second this notion of the elf
Mcelroy is better than Sanchez
As much as I hate that team, Ellsbury was amazing this year and he needs the proper credit.
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by Frank Campagnola on Nov 21, 2011 7:34 PM EST up reply actions
Putting Robertson in the top 10 is completely ridiculous.
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Why is it so ridiculous?
He pitched in 70 games (double any starting pitcher) and as a releiver he has little margin of error. He enters games at the most important stages and in the highest of pressure situations more often than not. And he has no leeway. If a starter sucks in the 1st inning, at least they can come back for the 2nd 3rd or 4th and try to settle in. If Robertson gives up 2 runs when he comes in in the 7th, its likely balance of the game is changed. Games are rarely won in the early innings!
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by Chris Child's Fist on Nov 22, 2011 10:53 AM EST up reply actions
Because he was no where near the top 10 of players in the American League.
For the same reason Verlander shouldn’t have won, as much as I love D-Rob, he shouldn’t be in the top 10.
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by WhatwouldJeterdo on Nov 22, 2011 1:07 PM EST up reply actions
Why shouldn't pitchers be up for the MVP award?
The MVP should stay as it is, the award for the most valuable player on the field, not just in the batter’s box.
If anything, they should create a Cy Young equivalent for hitters, how about the Babe Ruth award? About time they named something after the Babe.
nix that...
I guess it’s called the Babe Ruth World Series MVP award.
There already is an offensive award, The Hank Aaron Award, but the problem with that is it is voted upon by the fans, which doesn’t really give it any meaning.
Even then, creating a Cy Young equivalent for hitters makes it seem like the award only allows for hitting to be recognized, which I would be okay with as long as then the MVP would go to the player who contributed the most either on the mound or in the batters box, in the field, and on the basepaths.
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by Frank Campagnola on Nov 22, 2011 1:32 AM EST up reply actions
would this hitter's award take defense into consideration?
I don’t want a bum like Miguel Cabrera getting an award based on offense if he can’t also field his position.
I’m saying have a pitching only award, a hitting only award, and an MVP that takes everything into account.
Pitchers are eligible for the MVP, and batters are voted on based on their hitting, fielding, baserunning, etc.
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by Frank Campagnola on Nov 22, 2011 1:40 PM EST up reply actions
mvp
anti yankee bias continues.if guidry cdnt win in 78 with 25 and 3 record well under 2 era,no pitcher deserves it
It's not got anything to do with anti-Yankee anything this season.
Granderson didn’t deserve it.
Jesus Montero fangirl
by WhatwouldJeterdo on Nov 22, 2011 1:07 PM EST up reply actions

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