Will A.J. Burnett Be Back in 2012?
by Frank Campagnola on Nov 2, 2011 7:22 PM EDT
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On Tuesday afternoon, Brian Cashman signed his new three-year deal and held a conference call. One of his comments from Tuesday has been getting plenty of press, and was also mentioned on Pardon The Interruption of ESPN today.
Cashman said of Burnett on Tuesday, "If he's with us, he's in the rotation." The key word there is 'if.'
Now, maybe that was just a slip. But no matter what, it did open the door for further questions on the topic. So, Cashman explained further: "Let me just tell you this: I am open-minded. If anyone wants to approach me on anyone on this roster that doesn't have a full no-trade clause, the worst I can tell them is no."
Is Cashman shopping Burnett, or just hoping someone will take his mistake off his hands? He certainly didn't deny his availability.
After back-to-back seasons of 5+ ERA ball and a HR/9 rising at an alarming rate, it may be difficult to move him. Chances are that if he does get moved, the Yankees will eat just about all of the $33M due to him through 2013. Maybe there is a match somewhere out there where the Yankees can swap bad contracts?
So, the floor is yours, Pinstripe Alley. Will A.J. Burnett return in 2012?
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He's going nowhere unless they give him up for basically nothing AND take his salary
And after seeing the strong way he ended the season after changing his mechanics, I don’t necessarily think that would be a smart move. I want to see if he can get his new mechanics down consistently, because if he can then he may have a strong year. He shouldn’t be relied upon as the #2 starter, but as a mid rotation or a back end starter I’m very comfortable with him in the rotation. Especially if he builds on his finish to 2011.
So, I’m almost certain he goes nowhere, and will likely start the third or fourth game of the 2012 season.
Let us all congratulate the Boston Red Sox for becoming the first World Champions in the history of sports to NOT make the postseason! Thats not easy to do!
by nyyrocks29 on Nov 2, 2011 7:28 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
He really didn’t end the year that strong. Mid 4 ERA, WHIP above 1.4, and gave up six homers in five starts.
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by Frank Campagnola on Nov 2, 2011 7:40 PM EDT up reply actions
That just tells you how bad he's been the past couple years.
When a guy nails down 2 QS out of 5 September starts, it’s a good finish the to season. That’s rough.
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by AlohaSox on Sep 28, 2011 10:20 PM CDT
by SandalsNoPants on Nov 2, 2011 7:44 PM EDT up reply actions
His last 7 appearances (6 starts, including the playoff game)
He was 3-0, had an ERA of 3.85, a ridiculously high K/9 and in 4 of the 6 starts he surrendered 2 runs or less. A couple of those games were against some tough offenses too. So yes, I do believe that it was a strong finish. Not outstanding, but very solid, especially for someone who was coming off one of the worst months of his career.
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I was only including his starts at the end of the regular season.
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by Frank Campagnola on Nov 2, 2011 7:57 PM EDT up reply actions
2 quality starts, including the playoffs.
His K rate shot up with a ridiculous number of K’s against MIN, SEA, and BAL. I don’t know if I would really trust this small sample. He did, though, pitch his best game against Boston for his last start of the regular season (although that Boston team died on September 1st, so does that really have any meaning?).
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by AlohaSox on Sep 28, 2011 10:20 PM CDT
by SandalsNoPants on Nov 2, 2011 8:01 PM EDT up reply actions
Boston is still a very strong offense
As is Detroit. As for quality starts, he could have easily ended up with 4 QS including the playoffs- Joe Girardi just didn’t let him finish the sixth inning. I’m pretty sure he was capable of getting 1 or 2 more outs in those two games at the end of the year against Boston and Detroit when he went 5.2. Girardi didn’t let him, but I look at those as quality performances.
He had a high strikeout game against Boston too, so the strikeouts weren’t restricted to only poor offenses. I agree that it was a small sample size, but his results improved after he adjusted his mechanics and delivery and I’m curious to see if he can build off of that. I think thats a better option than paying him to pitch for another team. I don’t want to rely on him as a #2 starter anymore though- thats one of the reasons I want Darvish so much.
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But they're not quality starts.
They’re starts that eat into the bullpen. Girardi probably had good reason to take him out of those games.
And he struck out 6 in 7.2 against Boston. That lowers his rate from that month.
Also, in the playoff game, he walked more than he K’d. That’s not really a quality outing.
Again, it’s more than just SSS. It’s SSS against mostly garbage teams.
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by AlohaSox on Sep 28, 2011 10:20 PM CDT
by SandalsNoPants on Nov 2, 2011 8:09 PM EDT up reply actions
The Detroit game?
AJ was at 81 pitches and had retired the first two hitters of the inning. The third guy reached on an infield single and he took him out with 3 run lead. I don’t feel that he had any reason to take him out of that game- he just did.
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Maybe because he walked 4 batters already, and he didn't want the tying run at the plate.
I don’t recall the situation, but I’m sure the manager had reasons and is well-informed on this type of thing.
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by AlohaSox on Sep 28, 2011 10:20 PM CDT
by SandalsNoPants on Nov 2, 2011 8:17 PM EDT up reply actions
Three of the walks were in the first inning I believe
And he’d calmed down since and looked great after the first.
As for Girardi being well informed, well… I’ll just not comment on that. But Girardi’s managing is a very thoroughly discussed topic on here during the season. Thats for sure.
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He was taken out after 5.2...
…because he spent most of the 2nd half of the season giving the Manager reasons not to trust him.
by Let's Talk About Tex Baby on Nov 2, 2011 10:02 PM EDT up reply actions
That works.
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by AlohaSox on Sep 28, 2011 10:20 PM CDT
by SandalsNoPants on Nov 2, 2011 10:31 PM EDT up reply actions
Those games were odd.
Hard to watch, always seemed in trouble, but he would work out of it.
by pinstriper on Nov 2, 2011 9:12 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
It was hard to watch more because of how he’d been pitching recently rather than how he was pitching in any particular current game. There were never really any instances I really felt as if he was going to come apart and completely lose it during that time period though. The only one was the first inning of Game 4, and thankfully he got out of that and then pitched a good game.
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Also, a four or five start sample after two historically bad seasons would make getting rid of him a dumb/not smart move? How?
If he wasn’t making $16.5M a year, he’d be DFA’d by now.
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by Frank Campagnola on Nov 2, 2011 7:47 PM EDT up reply actions
Because it's difficult to replace 200 innings anyways
Especially in this thin market. And regarding 2011, at the beginning of August his ERA was in the low fours (4.2 range), a very good K/9 and a very good BAA. I consider that to be solid. And he ended the season in September and October similar to the way he was throughout the first half.
He shitted himself in August and it completely skewed the season numbers, but considering the way he ended the season after mechanical adjustments and the way he pitched for a good majority of the season (which honestly wasn’t that bad), I don’t put too much stock into that one month. Can you look at it at the end of the season and say that it was a good season? No, probably not. But I’d rather keep him in the rotation and see if he can rebound and build off his new mechanics rather than give him up for basically nothing and eat his salary. If they’re paying him anyways, then pay him to pitch for the Yankees. Because I believe he still has an ability to pitch and be successful.
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I think he might be put to better use if they paid him to pitch for the Red Sox.
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by AlohaSox on Sep 28, 2011 10:20 PM CDT
by SandalsNoPants on Nov 2, 2011 8:04 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Then he'll 1 hit the Yankees again the way he did when he was on Toronto and I'll be unhappy
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That was 2008.
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by Frank Campagnola on Nov 2, 2011 8:07 PM EDT up reply actions
I was joking.
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You have a lot of faith in Burnett man, it’s hard to tell sometimes haha.
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by Frank Campagnola on Nov 2, 2011 8:12 PM EDT up reply actions
True
Though if he was on the Red Sox I honestly doubt he could one hit the Yankees. You never know though- Lackey beat Sabathia this year.
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Fixed...
That was2008when he was still halfway decent.
He’s barely posted as much WAR since getting to the Yankees (6.4) as he did in 2008 (5.5).
How many wins is $16 million supposedly worth?
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by AlohaSox on Sep 28, 2011 10:20 PM CDT
by SandalsNoPants on Nov 2, 2011 8:12 PM EDT up reply actions
On the free agent market? About 3.3 if it’s $5M per win.
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by Frank Campagnola on Nov 2, 2011 8:13 PM EDT up reply actions
Yikes.
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by AlohaSox on Sep 28, 2011 10:20 PM CDT
by SandalsNoPants on Nov 2, 2011 8:14 PM EDT up reply actions
He allows way too many baserunners, his stuff is diminishing, and he allows way too many homers. And his home run rates are increasing at an alarming rate.
None of that suggests improvement.
And you answer your own question. He didn’t have a good season. He was just as bad in 2010. When is it time to just cut losses and just admit that he is what he is?
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by Frank Campagnola on Nov 2, 2011 8:11 PM EDT up reply actions
Those HR rates have skyrocketed at the ends of the past 2 seasons.
I wonder if he’s just breaking down. He’s going to be 35. Might be time to retire soon.
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by AlohaSox on Sep 28, 2011 10:20 PM CDT
by SandalsNoPants on Nov 2, 2011 8:15 PM EDT up reply actions
I'd like to give him one more chance
Because he showed me something in the last month after he altered his delivery. If he sucks in 2012, then I’ll agree it’s time to release or send him to the bullpen or to try something different
And in his case where he has a bad contract and has had a rough couple of seasons, you really can’t cut your losses. They’re going to pay him regardless, so if they’re going to pay him I want to see him get another opportunity, because I still think he can have success. I don’t think he’s done yet.
Funny how I have a lot of confidence in so many Yankees that the majority of the fanbase believes are done. Maybe I’m overly optimistic.
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Would it be crazy to shut him down for all of August?
by pinstriper on Nov 2, 2011 9:13 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
I hope he does
then again I just heard the sound of a trillion AJ hating cretins pitching tents
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Who on earth replaces him?
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by AlohaSox on Sep 28, 2011 10:20 PM CDT
Garcia, Colon?
They both pitched way better than AJ last year.
That being said, I doubt AJ is going anywhere. Unless it’s to Chicago and the Yanks get Zambrano in return.
Do you think they can repeat?
As bad as Burnett is, it seems like the Yankees need him with their pitching depth.
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by AlohaSox on Sep 28, 2011 10:20 PM CDT
by SandalsNoPants on Nov 2, 2011 7:57 PM EDT up reply actions
You can start Noesi.
He can probably put up the same numbers AJ did. I would suspect probably better, even. I’d also like to see Garcia back, he was definitely a nice addition to the rotation last season.
You wouldn't get the innings out of him, I don't think.
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by AlohaSox on Sep 28, 2011 10:20 PM CDT
by SandalsNoPants on Nov 2, 2011 8:06 PM EDT up reply actions
Adam Warren and David Phelps are two major league ready arms in AAA.
They have good stats but they are not projected to be anything more than backend types. I don’t think they would pitch worse than Burnett though.
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Not sure if they'd pitch better either though
And AJ would have more upside in 2012 than either of those guys. I’d still be really open to giving either of them a chance next year if they can’t get Darvish or somebody else. Particularly David Phelps.
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It would be tough to, but I'd be more concerned about the IP
CC will give the ‘pen a break, but the rest of the rotation is Burnett’s not even in it might not even scratch 200 IP. Gotta hope the ’pen holds up. AAA guys will probably top out around 150-160.
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by AlohaSox on Sep 28, 2011 10:20 PM CDT
by SandalsNoPants on Nov 2, 2011 11:03 PM EDT up reply actions
The bullpen won't be a problem next year I expect
Whether they get another starter or go with kids, they’ll have at least four very quality arms down there (Mo, Robertson, Soriano, Joba) plus whoever else is added. The bullpen I expect will be a strength so they’ll hold up fine.
Though if they really are going to have guys who top out at 150-160, I’d hope they have a quality long man down there next year as well.
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You can never predict injuries, especially with pitchers.
That’s a great group of pitchers. Gotta hope they stay healthy.
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by AlohaSox on Sep 28, 2011 10:20 PM CDT
by SandalsNoPants on Nov 2, 2011 11:15 PM EDT up reply actions
Considering Joba will be coming off of TJ surgery, that group is already impacted by injury
and the season hasn’t even started.
Well, those other 3 are still good
Joba was the worst of that bunch anyway, really.
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by AlohaSox on Sep 28, 2011 10:20 PM CDT
by SandalsNoPants on Nov 2, 2011 11:20 PM EDT up reply actions
Long man
Phil Hughes
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by AlohaSox on Sep 28, 2011 10:20 PM CDT
by SandalsNoPants on Nov 2, 2011 11:15 PM EDT up reply actions
If he continues to suck that may actually happen.
But at the beginning of the year I think they will start with Noesi, Kontos, or some other arm out of Scranton and hope that Hughes can maintain his velocity multiple times through the order.
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a quality long man down there
Oh.
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by Jedi Master A-Rod on Nov 2, 2011 11:48 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
This
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Is everyone not
parsing every sentence out of Cashman’s mouth just a little too much. I just don’t see anyone making any kind of legitimate offer for AJ.
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by tnredneckyankeesfan on Nov 2, 2011 8:04 PM EDT reply actions
Period?
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Bleacher Report has done it again!
I apologize that this has nothing to do with this post, but the some of the stuff written in here amazes me.
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I never read that garbage any more.
Between the outlandish articles, the terrible writing and the numerous spelling and grammatical errors, it’s hard to take that site seriously. I’ll stick with PSA.
I hear Frankie is actually leaving for Bleacher Report. Said something about the quality of writing being better over there!
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In a Jesus Montero article. It was kind of funny.
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by Frank Campagnola on Nov 2, 2011 10:08 PM EDT up reply actions
Wow, really? How much are they gonna pay me?
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by Frank Campagnola on Nov 2, 2011 10:08 PM EDT up reply actions
You actually pay me in this deal!
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Yeah, so I’ll be staying here…
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by Frank Campagnola on Nov 2, 2011 10:12 PM EDT up reply actions
Also the last line of your email was so suspenseful!
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by Frank Campagnola on Nov 2, 2011 10:13 PM EDT up reply actions
I read it for laughs
Never to get actual news. I stick to PSA and yankees.com for that.
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To repeat what I said earlier in the year
I never click on a link to BR because nobody has that many brain cells to waste.
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by tnredneckyankeesfan on Nov 2, 2011 8:54 PM EDT up reply actions
Genius
Matt Moore is the next Randy Johnson based on a SSS
Yankees are better off w/o a 4 WAR player
Crawford is a bust after one season
Billingsley is done after one bad season
Krimbel is the best closer ever cuz he had one reallly good season
Michael Young, one of the most overrated player because of BA and shit defense, is now underrated
Lincecum with a 2.74 ERA suckz now cuz he doesn’t have the winz and a below .500 record durr. Also why can’t he score runs for himself?
Kershaw is the best pitcher in the NL! (oh wait Roy Halladay is still around?)
La Russa is the greatest manager ever cuz he has the wins! *lets ignore his career .536 winning % and almost single handily lose the WS for his team by losing 2 games based on his poor managing . But since his team won, who cares right?!?! Lolz factz
Verlander is the best pitcher in the league cuz of this season! And last year Roy Halladay was the best pitcher in the league! and the year before it was Greinke! Then it was Cliff Lee! See a pattern? One good season obvious means you’re the best (until someone else has a better season. (derp))
Pujols is untouchable? He had like 1 hit in the WS outside of that huge 5 hit game.
If this was Arod and they lost the series he would he been labeled a choker. Hell would he have wrote this if the Cardinals lost?
“Reassurance is always an admirable trait in professional baseball and in today’s media where the question “what have you done for me lately” reigns supreme, Pujols’ immaculate resurgence made 2011 that more special."
Lol what? isn’t his complete analysis based on “What have you done for me lately?” Not only is a moron, he’s a hypocrite . Yay! Featured Columnist my ass.
I would love it if the Yankees could acquire Billingsley for a lesser price. Give them Cervelli+the rights to Brackman’s jersey from his debut! Done deal!
Seriously though, that would be a fantastic, but not likely, move.
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Billingsley sign like a extension last season i think. I was all for him as a potential trade target before the extension.
He's a good pitcher
If he was available he’s someone I’d definitely target in a trade if they weren’t able to get Darvish- but since he’s extended I seriously doubt they’ll deal him. He’s one of the guys they want to build around.
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While Burnett has not lived up to his contract,
I do appreciate that he has taken the ball every day for 30+ starts each season of his contract. Now if someone would like to provide something of value to the Yankees, then get’er done.
Who else is there....
PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE
DO NOT MAKE ANY ATTEMPTS TO CHANGE Robertson INTO A STARTER.
It destroyed Joba and Hughes.
Hughes had 1/2 season as a good starter. He made the All Star team. Blew the game in the All Star game and he has been bad ever since.
His problem isn’t so much his velocity…. He has the same problem Robertson HAD. A fastball too straight and true.
It NEEDS to cut. Every great pitcher either cuts or breaks. Joba needs to learn this as well. Even though he has a good curveball…. he doesn’t trust it when he needs to get a batter out.
by Gangsta Yanksta on Nov 2, 2011 10:30 PM EDT reply actions
I wouldn't worry about Robertson, he's in line for the closer spot if he keeps it up.
Hughes and Joba were meant to be starters.
Robertson was never a starter in college or in the minors so no need to worry. Hughes and Joba on the other hand were groomed to be starters since college.
Hughes was drafted out of high school.
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by Frank Campagnola on Nov 2, 2011 11:06 PM EDT up reply actions
*Hughe's
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No chance that happens
Robertson was always supposed to be a reliever. Hughes and Joba were supposed to be starters- they’ve already messed up one completely and I’m worried Hughes may go down that road as well.
Even backend starters are more valuable than almost every reliever.
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Roy Oswalt is looking for a long term deal
according to JP Morosi of Fox Sports (via MLBTR).
I’d still offer him a 2 year deal with one of those vesting options like CC’s, but instead of his arm, make it for his back (he went on the DL twice this year with a bad back). Or just make it injury contingent in general.
Do not want.
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by Wraithpk on Nov 2, 2011 11:43 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Will AJ be back?
I don’t think so, and here’s why. The Yankees don’t need to give away games like they did last year every time AJ pitched. And the argument about who would pitch those 190 innings is a no brainer – CJ Wilson, Mark Buehrle, or maybe Betances. Anyone would be an upgrade to AJ. The Yanks have always been trading partners with the Padres, and SD would probably be willing to take him off the Yankees’ hands if NY ate most of the contract and took a marginal prospect in return. That would probably be the best scenario.
Wilson or Buehrle, sure
But Betances pitched less than 130 total innings in 2011. I’d think he’d be capped at about 160 IP.
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by AlohaSox on Sep 28, 2011 10:20 PM CDT
by SandalsNoPants on Nov 2, 2011 11:27 PM EDT up reply actions
He's nowhere near ML ready either.
He and Banuelos need a full year in AAA so that they can attempt to get their walk rates down.
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details, details
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by AlohaSox on Sep 28, 2011 10:20 PM CDT
by SandalsNoPants on Nov 2, 2011 11:37 PM EDT up reply actions
You wouldn’t necessarily have to have a trade partner to move AJ. There has been precedence lately of teams releasing players who were considered toxic assets.
Think about it this way: You’re going to be paying AJ that 16 or 17 million no matter what. If you honestly think that someone like Hector Noesi or (insert guy who would be playing for league minimum) would perform better than AJ, then you need to release him if you can’t find a trade partner. If AJ is our 6th or 7th best starting pitcher coming out of spring training, the Yankees might have to bite the bullet and cut their losses with him.
Now, I don’t think this will happen. I think AJ’s performance in his playoff start bought him a little more time, but I see this as a real possibility if he struggles in the beginning of 2012 and one of the AAA kids looks ready to go.
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His playoff start wasn't even that good.
5.2, 3K, 4BB, 1HR (albeit the only run he allowed)
I don’t see what’s so good about this line.
Am I the only one flagging this guy?
Seriously, do we have to wait for the money shot or a "F*** THE SOXXXXXX!" before we ban him? Doubleteapot… BAN HIM!!
by AlohaSox on Sep 28, 2011 10:20 PM CDT
by SandalsNoPants on Nov 2, 2011 11:46 PM EDT up reply actions
The groundballs.
10-2 GB-FB that game. It wasn’t bad after the first inning.
Approximately eight warnings, a couple dozen censorships, and one ban in the last month and counting.
The fact that the one FB was a HR basically sum up AJ's season
Lots of groundballs, lots of K’s, high walks and every other fly ball goes out of the park.
He won't
I have no prove of this
"WHO WOULD LEAD?! THE CLOWN?!"
by I'mGivingYouARaise on Nov 3, 2011 12:25 AM EDT reply actions
He will
I have no prove of this
"WHO WOULD LEAD?! THE CLOWN?!"
by I'mGivingYouARaise on Nov 3, 2011 12:25 AM EDT reply actions
If we're lucky
I’d say AJ gives the team 2 wins over the next two years. Maybe dropping him in the rotation an pitting him against lesser SPs will give him an extra win or two. One can only hope that his decent finish to the year is where he might pick up from, but I believe many people thought the same thing after 2009.
NYY certainly isn’t going to dump him (and who would trade for him?) unless they bring someone up from AAA who’s too good to demote and as a result they have to make room in the rotation; that’s about the only case I see him not starting, other than injury.
No chance he won't be back
Would you want a 5+ ERA pitcher who’s still due $33 million????
On the bright side, maybe he’ll turn it around next year. His friendship did wonders for Nova; perhaps it will continue to do wonders for AJ (especially after ALDS Game 4).
I don't know if AJ will return or not, but I do know one thing-
he always puts together a string of starts somewhere along the line that makes you think he’s finally got the motion, or the release point, or the rythm and he will be effective going forward. That’s the AJ Burnett tease and I can’t believe that people still fall for it.
In our hearts, we already know that next year he will win between 12 and 14, and lose the same number. He will have 5 or 6 starts that make you think All Star, and he will go 0 for August. Haven’t we learned anything?
It will cost $25m to get rid of him in this offseason, and probably 1/2 of that after next season. Unless there’s another overpriced bust that the Yankees think they can trade for and rehabilitate, I don’t count on AJ leaving.
by designatedquitter on Nov 4, 2011 9:48 AM EDT reply actions
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