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New York Yankees News and Notes

Good morning, Pinstripe Alley readers. Here's your morning news for Thursday, November 17th.

  • Brian Cashman is hoping for the "real" Alex Rodriguez to resurface. He also said the key phrase surrounding A-Rod over the past few years: "If he stays healthy, he'll be great." Now, I'm not sure what his definition of great is, but I think we'd all be ecstatic if A-Rod could return to 2009 statistical numbers with 2010 health. However, the likeliness of this situation is an entirely different story.
  • Former Pinstripe Alley manager Ed Valentine took a look at Yankees free agent rumors and came to the conclusion that no matter what happens, there will be at least one new arm in the 2012 rotation. 
  • Despite reports that the Yankees requested to meet with C.J. Wilson and his agent, that is not the case. Bob Garber asked to meet with the Yanks, and is still waiting on an answer.
  • Hal Steinbrenner said that the Yankees only need some fine-tuning.
  • The Yankee Analysts wonders if Curtis Granderson can repeat his 2011 performance, and comes to a simple conclusion: He's a really good player, he's still in his prime, and tightening up his approach at the plate could lead to another MVP-caliber season in 2012.
  • Mike Axisa took a look at the "Larry Rothschild Effect," noting that the Yankees increased their strikeout rates and decreased their walk rates under the new pitching coach. This may be attributed to a 4% increase in their breaking ball usage.

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A trade is also a possibility, according to Cashman, who said he would “sacrifice offense to improve our pitching if I could.”

Hmm, “sacrifice offense”. Who could that be?
Jeter? No
Gardner? Probably not.
Granderson? No.
A-Rod? Nope.
Cano? Nah.
Tex? Can’t be. No trade clause.
Swisher? Perhaps, but doubtful.
Martin? Nah, no offense there to speak of.
Montero? Hmmm.

Romine!

by david d on Nov 17, 2011 9:15 AM EST reply actions  

he'd be an idiot

Last night, a comedian died in New York. Somebody knows why. Somebody knows

by Rorschach44 on Nov 17, 2011 9:47 AM EST up reply actions  

Just the fact

that Cashman made this statement means he’s already considered it and it begs the question, just exactly who would be sacrificed? The only realistic scenario is Montero. Then next I would say Gardner is a possibility, then Swisher. Idiocy? Maybe. Intriguing, nonetheless.

Romine!

by david d on Nov 17, 2011 10:06 AM EST up reply actions  

he didn't say Montero, you did.

Last night, a comedian died in New York. Somebody knows why. Somebody knows

by Rorschach44 on Nov 17, 2011 10:09 AM EST up reply actions  

then you said "just the face" like Cashman already considered this.

says who? You? LOL.

Last night, a comedian died in New York. Somebody knows why. Somebody knows

by Rorschach44 on Nov 17, 2011 10:56 AM EST up reply actions  

What David deduced makes sense. Who else has a contract that’s actually movable on the offensive side? It comes down to Montero, Gardner or Swisher.

No one in the infield is available, Cash loves Martin, and Granderson is going no where after that season. That leaves the above three as trade candidates.

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by Frank Campagnola on Nov 17, 2011 11:29 AM EST up reply actions  

Apparently he didn’t even read what I wrote, or how I wrote it…

Romine!

by david d on Nov 17, 2011 11:40 AM EST up reply actions   1 recs

what you wrote was crap, and you know it

its inciting that Cashman meant Montero, when no one knows if its Montero.

Last night, a comedian died in New York. Somebody knows why. Somebody knows

by Rorschach44 on Nov 17, 2011 1:53 PM EST up reply actions  

You aren't really that dumb, are you?

I in no way dd such a thing. It is quite clear I reasoned who he could possibly consider trading in a scenario he stated. Get over yourself already.

Romine!

by david d on Nov 17, 2011 2:03 PM EST up reply actions  

Montero? Hmmm.

Romine!

^ that’s you. I am not the one that needs to get over myself.

Last night, a comedian died in New York. Somebody knows why. Somebody knows

by Rorschach44 on Nov 17, 2011 2:07 PM EST up reply actions  

Exactly

He would top the list, no? Then Gardner or Swisher as possibilities. Romine? I don’t think the Yankees would be “sacrificing offense” by trading him, do you? You must think higher of him than you’ve previously stated. Regardless, I know what I meant and apparently so did Frank. I even restated my stance.

Romine!

by david d on Nov 17, 2011 2:20 PM EST up reply actions  

Misunderstandings, for the win.

"People ask me what I do in winter when there's no baseball. I'll tell you what I do. I stare out the window and wait for spring." --Rogers Hornsby

by Chris McKeown on Nov 17, 2011 3:08 PM EST up reply actions  

*just the fact

Last night, a comedian died in New York. Somebody knows why. Somebody knows

by Rorschach44 on Nov 17, 2011 10:56 AM EST up reply actions  

Read Ed’s link…

Romine!

by david d on Nov 17, 2011 11:11 AM EST up reply actions  

Not to stir the pot

but even Ed’s article makes it difficult to locate the link where Cashman was originally quoted as saying that “sacrifice offense for pitching.” It turns out it’s buried in the Yu Darvish article he linked.

by phonty on Nov 17, 2011 11:50 AM EST up reply actions  

LOL

Last night, a comedian died in New York. Somebody knows why. Somebody knows

by Rorschach44 on Nov 17, 2011 1:54 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

piss off

Last night, a comedian died in New York. Somebody knows why. Somebody knows

by Rorschach44 on Nov 17, 2011 2:08 PM EST up reply actions  

That's a surprisingly good article

by Passan.

It’s very interesting as I never knew the origins of the posting system. In light of that article (and who Darvish’s agent is), I actually sincerely hope he either doesn’t post or doesn’t sign a contract with any MLB team, unless they offer him a true market-value contract.

by phonty on Nov 17, 2011 11:57 AM EST up reply actions  

I read an excellent one by Brooklyn Dodgers Mets Fan on Amazin' Avenue

Just saying. I’m known to not like Passan, haha. But that was a great FanPost. Link here.

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by Hasan Paliwala on Nov 17, 2011 12:34 PM EST up reply actions  

Health ?

Last regular season A-Rod was 100% healthey was 2007 where he hit 54 HR and drove in 157 and he won the MVP he was also pretty healthey for the 2009 post-season i mean look at his numbers there and determine if a-rod can be great

by xNYxLegend on Nov 17, 2011 10:18 AM EST reply actions  

A-Rod 100% healthy 5 years later after 2 surgeries and at 37 is not going to be the same as a healthy A-Rod pre-surgeries and 32 years old.

Romine!

by david d on Nov 17, 2011 10:22 AM EST up reply actions  

Cashman is hoping for the "real" A-Rod?

I’m still waiting for the “real” Slim Shady to please stand up, please stand up, please stand up. It’s been like 10 years already.

by long time listener on Nov 17, 2011 10:57 AM EST reply actions  

He has

and he’s a PSA member

Romine!

by david d on Nov 17, 2011 11:12 AM EST up reply actions  

Perhaps you've all overlooked the obvious- Romine. Um, excuse me- Romine!

I don’t know what Hal means by ‘fine tuning.’ A #2 pitcher who can beat somebody else’s #2 in the playoffs strikes me as being a bit more than fine tuning.

I’m not sure how tradable Swisher is, since he’s entering the last year of his contract.

Not only do I think that Curtis Granderson will repeat his 2011 performance, I think ARod will repeat his.

The ‘Larry Rothschild Effect’ is usually called the ‘See what happens when you finally get a good pitching coach effect.’

by designatedquitter on Nov 17, 2011 11:46 AM EST reply actions  

i’m pretty sure Dave Eiland just sucked. It didn’t seem like he was ever doing anything. I don’t even think Guidry was even any good. Hopefully Rothchild can ‘Klong’ AJ and the bullpen

by jetanumba2 on Nov 17, 2011 12:02 PM EST up reply actions  

Re: 'Larry Rothschild Effect"

Also, Freddy Garcia started 20 something games which surely bumps up the number of breaking pitches thrown.

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by Sgurd0187 on Nov 17, 2011 12:40 PM EST up reply actions  

The problem with that Axisa article:

Is that we changed pitching coaches, but we also changed catchers. In particular, we went from one of the worst receivers (ability to frame and block pitches) to one of the best.

So did the Yankees throw more breaking balls because the coach told them to, or because they knew the catcher could get to it? Probably some of both.

by PortlandYankee on Nov 17, 2011 12:12 PM EST reply actions  

Also, Freddy was a year older in a better division.

I don’t know how much of his pitch selection was based on Rothschild and how much was based on the fact that he knew he needed more smoke and mirrors to pitch in the AL East.

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by goyanks69 on Nov 17, 2011 12:18 PM EST up reply actions  

That is a great point about catchers.

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by Frank Campagnola on Nov 17, 2011 12:45 PM EST up reply actions  

Real A Rod

Everytime I see a picture or read a story about him, I cannot help but think long term. Which A Rod are we going to get in 2013, 14, 15 & 16? His health is only going to get worse and I think the next several years are going to be a very frustrating time for us. We’ll always be able to buy our way into the playoffs but getting over the hump to a WS championship will be very difficult with an aging/decling clean up hitter.

by pyrcp on Nov 17, 2011 12:29 PM EST reply actions  

Buy our way in?

Why do we even bother playing the 162 games then? The Yanks should be exempt from the regular season if that’s the case. Can we pay extra to get a first place spot in the AL East?

Reporter: "Joe, how closely were you following the Red Sox score on the scoreboard throughout the game?"
Girardi: "Well, I mean, it's hard not to see it. Our scoreboard's really big."

"Red Sox Nation? What a bunch of bullshit that is." - Hank Steinbrenner

by Ella Grace on Nov 17, 2011 1:42 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

A-Rod is the least of my worries

Let us all congratulate the Boston Red Sox for becoming the first World Champions in the history of sports to NOT make the postseason! Thats not easy to do!

by nyyrocks29 on Nov 17, 2011 2:42 PM EST reply actions  

Montero ?

If he didnt trade montero for kin felix cliff lee or zach greinke why woul he now ??

by xNYxLegend on Nov 17, 2011 3:43 PM EST reply actions  

i don kno

is kin felix felix hernandez’s son?

Boone Logan signed a baseball for me. David Robertson signed a glossy photo for me.

by goyanks69 on Nov 17, 2011 3:57 PM EST up reply actions  

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