Yankees/MLB Hot Stove News and Rumors - November 1st
by Chris McKeown on Nov 1, 2011 4:30 PM EDT
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PrintScanning the daily hot stove stories, there's a few notable headlines that every baseball fan should be interested in. Of course, we'll cover any and all breaking news as it happens.
- With the resigning of CC Sabathia last night, the Yankees will now turn their attention to even more "pitching, pitching, pitching", according to New York GM Brian Cashman. What's been such a brilliant point raised by a few writers and analysts is that the Yankees can now comfortably peruse the free agent market and not feel the burden of needing to land a top flight starting pitcher. Sure, the starting pitching rotation isn't the best in baseball. However, there isn't a desperate feeling of forcing a foolish signing because Sabathia is back.
- For those of you looking for a solid article about Yu Darvish, look no further than Dave Cameron over at fangraphs. He wrote an informative piece comparing Yu Darvish to other dominant "Super 2" pitchers in baseball. Would the "lowest projected figure" of $102 million over six years ($30 million posting fee, $72 million contract) be worth it?
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Please bring back C.J. WIlson, Texas. Please. I beg you.
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I wouldn't mind if he went somewhere else, like the Cubs
Weakens Texas without hurting the Yankees, anyway.
by waw on Nov 1, 2011 8:52 PM EDT up reply actions
Sure, that works! Anywhere but NY
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Honestly I think Boston will end up with him.
I think they will cut ties with Papelbon and Ortiz and sign Wilson with the money they have left because their starting rotation was the biggest reason for their collapse in September. Plus, he’s white so the Boston fanbase will like him.
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Star-divideThe Boston Red Sox could potentially be looking at Grady Sizemore to fill a need out in right field.
Again, I still don’t understand why they wouldn’t move Crawford to RF where he can actually use his speed instead of being cockblocked by the monster in LF.
C.J. Wilson, arguably the best starting pitcher on the market, has expressed his desire to remain with the Texas Rangers. He’ll cost a pretty penny this offseason simply based off two years of relatively great starting pitching: 31-15 record, 427.1 innings, 3.14 ERA, 3.5 BB/9, 7.9 SO/9, 0.5 HR/9.
Good
Carlos Beltran switched from famed agent Scott Boras to Dan Lozano earlier today. If you recall, Boras helped Beltran hold the New York Mets to a king’s ransom of seven years, $119 million back in January of 2005.
I’m definitely curious where he winds up. Heh, I wonder if the Mets try to get him back.
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by I'mGivingYouARaise on Nov 1, 2011 4:56 PM EDT reply actions
Beltran certainly is an interesting case. Another is the Phillies and Domonic Brown!
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I'm also curious what becomes of Reyes
I hope the Mets can keep him, but I don’t honestly think they will be able to.
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by I'mGivingYouARaise on Nov 1, 2011 5:10 PM EDT up reply actions
I think he goes to the Giants/Phillies/Marlins. Anything other than those three or the Mets would surprise me. What do you think?
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If the Marlins suddenly drop 90 mil
I will be absolutely astonished
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by Cory Braiterman on Nov 1, 2011 5:16 PM EDT up reply actions
I’ve heard they are ready and willing.
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With all the money they've sunk into Lee
I’m not sure if the Phillies could afford Reyes for a Carl Crawford like deal, which he’ll most likely get. I wouldn’t put it past them, but man seeing Reyes on the Phillies would be devastating for the Amazin’ fanbase The Giants are a possibility. Like Cory said, I’d be surprised if the Marlins offer up that kind of doe. They might simply to bring a huge name brand to make that Carnivale Marlin spin.
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by I'mGivingYouARaise on Nov 1, 2011 5:43 PM EDT up reply actions
I think the Giants make by far the most sense, but we shall see.
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I wonder if the Angels will make a bid
Maybe the Blue Jays, but they might be happy enough with Esco
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by I'mGivingYouARaise on Nov 1, 2011 5:53 PM EDT up reply actions
If they do drop that kind of coin on Reyes
It’s probably going to send them over the luxury tax line. God that would be hilarious. Years of their fanbase bitching about the Yankees spending too much money, and they’re now the 2nd highest payroll in the game.
When do you want the free agent predictions post, folks? Don’t want it to be too early when I post it.
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1) Testicles
THAT, is all.
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by Rorschach44 on Nov 1, 2011 5:25 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Can't wait to not read it.
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Cricket blog?
You mean read and comment Steve Sax?
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Cricket blog?
why is pitching the priority?
we lost to Detroit because we couldn’t put runs up (::death stare at russel martin, arod, tex, and swisher::).
"Practice does not make perfect. Perfect practice makes perfect."
Jeter had a lower OPS than A-Rod or Swisher in the ALDS.
Why did you conveniently leave out him?
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jeter was also 5 feet away from winning the series.
Even if he had a lower OPS, swisher and arod consistently failing in crucial situations were backbreakers….
Jeter at least looked like he was in the game, the other two looked lost.
"Practice does not make perfect. Perfect practice makes perfect."
And yet Jeter failed in more crucial situations…
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by Jedi Master A-Rod on Nov 1, 2011 8:12 PM EDT up reply actions
?
2011 ALDS
Derek Jeter: -.433 WPA
Alex Rodriguez: -.249 WPA
Nick Swisher: -.464 WPA
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Why are you using stats?
Passion and “looking like you are in the game” are far more important.
Let us all congratulate the Boston Red Sox for becoming the first World Champions in the history of sports to NOT make the postseason! Thats not easy to do!
have you ever played a sport before?
there is a difference between dogging it, looking like you are fooled at the plate, putting horrendous swings on the ball, having a bad at bat, etc. versus good at bats (not necessarily ones where you get a hit), putting good swings on the ball, looking like you belong up there, etc.
i’m not trying to compare intangibles with stats because you can’t. I understand that. All I’m saying is that as someone who been in the game from little league through college, swisher looked like a little leaguer at the plate (especially against their bullpen) while Jeter had some great at bats and almost hit one out to win the series.
"Practice does not make perfect. Perfect practice makes perfect."
who do you blame the loss on then?
"Practice does not make perfect. Perfect practice makes perfect."
clearly swisher did....
your logic is unassailable my friend
"Practice does not make perfect. Perfect practice makes perfect."
give it up
dont bother trying to make a point re: lack of playoff production from arod,tex,swish. You’ll just get a barrage of stats thrown at you. It’s actually pretty funny when you see the routine over and over. I can predict the next comment. 1st bash jeter, followed by OPS and then WPA. That usually makes you just give up the fight.
what stats?
1 run, 1 rbi, 1 bb, 4 hits in 5 games? those kind of stats?
3 runs, 0 rbi, 2bb 3 hits in 5 games? those kind of stats?
2 for 18, .372 OPS for one of the bests hitter in baseball? those kind of stats?
I’m confused.
"Practice does not make perfect. Perfect practice makes perfect."
nevermind i'll drop it
clearly i’m wrong. my bad?
"Practice does not make perfect. Perfect practice makes perfect."
Because using stats is somehow less valid than using stuff like "will to win" and whatever the heck else.
Wait…no it isn’t. If you irrationally post about how bad someone is without anything to back it up that isn’t made up in your mind, you’ll get the comments you are talking about.
You’ve said repeatedly that the spots where A-Rod, Swisher, whoever, made outs had the most impact on the game. WPA directly contradicts you. It takes something that did actually happen and disproves what you are saying happened. Sorry that people here don’t allow you to make things up and present it as fact.
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by WhatwouldJeterdo on Nov 2, 2011 12:53 PM EDT up reply actions
i wasn't presenting my statements as fact....
that’s why i used the words “looked to me like…” or “it seems that” or “I feel that X player should have done better”
If we aren’t allowed to give our opinions and have good debates on our favorite team then why are we in this forum in the first place?
I have conceded that arod and swish weren’t the reason why we lost he series. I stand corrected. I’m sorry for getting you all butt-hurt.
"Practice does not make perfect. Perfect practice makes perfect."
this is a really stupid thing to say. How in the world could facts be more legitimate than mindless, baseless opinion. I don’t even understand. Statistics are facts in the right context, not just some made up numbers. Just because you don’t understand something doesn’t make it incorrect.
isn't that why we are all here?
to share our opinions as fans? if I wanted to read stats I would just go to baseball reference. My goal here was to incite a discussion as to what exactly went wrong. My thoughts were proved wrong. congratulations you won.
//loses a cookie.
"Practice does not make perfect. Perfect practice makes perfect."
Sign Cody Ross, Edgar Renteria, and Hideki Matsui.
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Yes!
Though ironically Aaron Boone was terrible in the postseason- he just got the right hit at the right time.
Let us all congratulate the Boston Red Sox for becoming the first World Champions in the history of sports to NOT make the postseason! Thats not easy to do!
Pitching is the priority
because the team got extremely lucky that Nova stepped up and that Colon and Garcia pitched far better than anyone expected them to. We can’t count on that lightning striking twice.
The lineup is fine. If the guys hit like they did in’09, the team will be fine. The lineup is one of the best in baseball, as is the bullpen. Solidifying the rotation behind CC IS the priority. I just hope they don’t go out and get Wilson, who will probably be Burnett 2.
why is Nova "lightning?"
he’s legit IMO.
I agree with the Wilson sentiment, because to me he’s overrated. Solid number 3 starter, at best he’s a 2. Someone is going to give him “ace” money and regret it.
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Nova is good
But not mid 3 era good and you just never know with the young guys.
by lololol on Nov 1, 2011 8:09 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Yep, the Yankees had no reason to expect a rookie season like this one
by waw on Nov 1, 2011 8:54 PM EDT up reply actions
^this is what I was talking about
There is no way the Yanks had any idea that Nova would be as good as he was. If they did they wouldn’t have sent him down for a month. I HOPE that he’s the real deal and we can get another 10+ years of strong pitching from him. But saying that he’s legit after ONE season is illogical.
And saying any pitcher we sign is going to come here and pitch like gold is also illogical
You just never know regardless
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by I'mGivingYouARaise on Nov 1, 2011 10:55 PM EDT up reply actions
i don't think its illogical
unless you think by me saying “legit” i mean he’ll put up number 2 starter numbers again and again, year after year.
when I say legit, I mean he is a big league starter. To say that is illogical is illogical.
//circular logic?
"Practice does not make perfect. Perfect practice makes perfect."
No one is saying he's not legit
I think the point was, the Yankees got as far as they did this season partly because Nova outperformed expectations, as did Garcia and Colon. That’s three guys, two of which may well not be on the staff next season. So, to say the pitching is fine for next season based on last season’s results would not be true. Nova may well match (or come close to) last year’s production. But someone else needs to step (AJ, Hughes), or be acquired (Darvish?) just to match last season’s pitching results.
by waw on Nov 2, 2011 1:01 PM EDT up reply actions
i hear what you are saying
but there are aberrations. Just look at what the cardinals went through with losing their ace. Their staff actually regressed and they still won the series. I really don’t think signing a big name pitcher is going to solve the issues we ran into the last two years.
I firmly believe that if the guys we are throwing madoff money at actually hit in the playoffs, then we wouldve 3-peated. Although apparently I cannot say this because fans’ opinions don’t count in this discussion board.
"Practice does not make perfect. Perfect practice makes perfect."
The problem is that it’s basically the same lineup from 2009 and everyone is two years older, and they weren’t very young in 2009.
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by Frank Campagnola on Nov 1, 2011 8:36 PM EDT up reply actions
It's not the same lineup
Granderson is in center instead of Melky, Gardner is in left instead of Damon, Russell Martin is catching instead of Posada and Montero is DHing instead of Matsui. Thats 4 changes from the 2009 lineup, a substantial amount, and every one of those replacements is younger.
The starting infield remains in tact from 2009, but there’s not really anybody in that infield I want replaced yet. The lineup should be the least of their worries for next year.
Let us all congratulate the Boston Red Sox for becoming the first World Champions in the history of sports to NOT make the postseason! Thats not easy to do!
Yeah Cashman has already come out and said that he does not forsee any changes in the lineup becaue it was a stregth last year. I happen to agree with him. I think our entire starting lineup is under team control already, with the exception being Andruw Jones who would start against lefties.
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I would hope Jones is brought back
He grew on me last year after a shitty first half and he will still come cheap, so I’d definitely bring him back and start in against lefties.
Ideally I’d like Montero behind the plate and Jones DHing vs. lefties, but since Russell Martin is the “starting catcher” and will play every single day, the best way to get both of them in the lineup against lefties is to platoon Gardner. I don’t support it, but Jones was more productive than Gardner against left handed pitching last year.
Let us all congratulate the Boston Red Sox for becoming the first World Champions in the history of sports to NOT make the postseason! Thats not easy to do!
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by Frank Campagnola on Nov 2, 2011 1:17 AM EDT up reply actions
The thing is
How can we really expect the lineup to hit like ‘09? Jeter, Tex, and A-Rod are all regressing at a fast pace. We don’t have Matsui and Damon and Posada was a big part of that team’s offense. I’m worried about the offense. We can only hope Montero gets 500+ plate appearances and hits like a beast and Cano continues to light it up. I expect the usual from Granderson and Swisher.
Romine!
mostly since you can't find players who are gonna hit in the playoffs.
they either do it or they don’t.
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I like C.J Wilson, he might be have been given the wrong label (ACE) but if we got him for a very decent contract. Why not?
Though I’d like if we went after Darvish instead.
yeah we're totally going to get him for a nice little contract
he’s not the top pitching talent on the market right now or anything. We should totally take a flier on him and toss out a couple million to take a chance on him and see what he can do.
Demand for Wilson’s services is unreasonably high due to lack of pitching on the open market. There’s zero chance the Yankees could get him for a “decent contract”. If anything, his agent would use the Yankees to drive up his contract price considering they’ve got the financial flexibility to do so.
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by Chris McKeown on Nov 1, 2011 9:54 PM EDT up reply actions
i wouild like mark burele
or make a trade with a club for pitching i like the bullpen but we need a 2 or 3 starter
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Gardner didn't win the gold glove
I shouldn’t care considering that voting is bullshit cause clearly Jeter didn’t deserve one last year, but seriously? Un-fucking-real.
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by I'mGivingYouARaise on Nov 2, 2011 1:32 AM EDT reply actions
20 assists is impressive
I mean, he’s clearly not as good on defense as Gardner, but that’s a number that will pop out to voters.
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He probably had 20 assists because people weren’t afraid to run on him.
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by Frank Campagnola on Nov 2, 2011 11:25 AM EDT up reply actions
But how many were successful?
If he threw out 20 on 25 chances, I’d be impressed. If he threw out 20 on 100 chances – not so much.
by waw on Nov 2, 2011 1:13 PM EDT up reply actions
That looks less impressive
But I still have to figure out how to compare him to others. For sure, Gardner is not known for put-outs from LF, just for catching pretty much everything hit to him. Which is 90% of the job of a left fielder, IMO.
by waw on Nov 2, 2011 1:22 PM EDT up reply actions
He held a lower Pct. than Gardner, 68 to 63 percent, but threw out more, 6 to 2.5 percent. Which, to me, means Gardner got to hits quicker due to his speed, thus keeping runners from advancing as often, and that Gordon has a stronger arm. The 6% pct kill is huge, league average is 2.2. So, the 20 assists is impressive. Not much else to glean from this.
Romine!
Gardner deserved to win last year
and he deserved to win this year. He probably needs to improve his offensive numbers to win one.
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by waw on Nov 2, 2011 1:16 PM EDT up reply actions
I have a plan to bolster the pitching
The Dodgers are now for sale. The Yankees buy the Dodgers, they keep Matt Kemp, Kershaw, and Kuroda, then sell the team again. Presto.
Romine!
I like the twisted logic of this
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by tnredneckyankeesfan on Nov 2, 2011 9:21 AM EDT up reply actions
Too bad the other owners get to approve team sales
Otherwise Mark Cuban would already be an owner.
by waw on Nov 2, 2011 1:21 PM EDT up reply actions
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