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Brian Cashman Conference Call News

The Yankees did not pick up their option on Andrew Brackman, a former first round draft pick, making Brackman a free agent. Brackman made his MLB debut for the Yankees in September 2011. I would love to bring him back on a minor league deal.

Joba Chamberlain tweeted to Kim Jones that he is tentatively planned to be off a mound before Thanksgiving.

Brian Cashman on Jesus Montero, courtesy of Kim Jones:

"He could be a catcher, he could be a DH, he could be a bat off the bench, depending on how the roster looks."

Brian Cashman on the Yankees winter plans, courtesy of Scott Miller:

Yankees winter wish list according to GM Cashman: "Pitching, pitching, pitching."

Cashman on Russell Martin, after comparing his leadership skills to that of Thurman Munson:

"He's under our control. (Arbitration eligible.) He was fantastic, he didn't disappoint. ....I'm a big fan."

In other news, Francisco Cervelli will be ready to go, and the Yankees will consider a long term deal for Martin.


So, the Yankees will be going after pitching, they do not see offense as a problem, and they may sign a lefty reliever. Pretty much what we have known all off-season. Could this mean the Yankees will go all out for Darvish? Wilson? Thoughts?

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he could take over for AJ!

for all we know, AJ could be some otherworldly monster at C

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by nolesbroncos3456 on Nov 1, 2011 2:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

“He’s under our control. (Arbitration eligible.) He was fantastic, he didn’t disappoint. ….I’m a big fan.”

You get the good Cashman with the moron, I guess…

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by I'mGivingYouARaise on Nov 1, 2011 2:40 PM EDT reply actions  

He did have his highest slugging percentage since 2007

And his OPS was better than it was his previous two years. I mean, his numbers aren’t going to set the world on fire, but everybody wants to compare him to Montero (who hasn’t even had a full season under his belt) rather than look at him compared to his track record. His OPS+ was only slightly lower than his career average. He was signed because he would be an affordable option to start at catcher because Jorge couldn’t do it anymore, and he provided them with just that.

by Branta on Nov 1, 2011 2:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

He was signed to be a stopgap so Jesus Montero could get more seasoning

At this point, he’s just taking both ABs and games behind the plate away from Jesus. They don’t need him, so I don’t understand why he’s still here.

Let us all congratulate the Boston Red Sox for becoming the first World Champions in the history of sports to NOT make the postseason! Thats not easy to do!

by nyyrocks29 on Nov 1, 2011 3:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

At the very least

If Martin is here for one more year, it might not be a bad thing for Montero to learn defensive skills/calling game skills from Martin, since he’s so highly touted for those.

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by I'mGivingYouARaise on Nov 1, 2011 3:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

Tis why I said, at the very least

No matter what I probably won’t be happy with what they do with him.

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by I'mGivingYouARaise on Nov 1, 2011 3:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

Maybe that's not a terrible thing

If they sign Martin to multiple years, we could see Montero back him up the first season. And then, if Montero progresses, we could see Martin back him up the following season (or, perhaps, the one after). If, despite all of our wishes, Montero does not make enough progress on defense, the Yankees are not stuck relying on Cervelli or Romine.

I think that Martin could have a much better season if the Yankees truly mix in starts by Montero, instead of what they did to Martin this season. Starting him day after day (after night) until he was breaking down was really bad, but was probably forced on them to some extent by the injury to Cervelli. Take away the constant wear and tear of getting no off days, and we may get “April Martin” for a longer part of the season. This would take a lot of the pressure off of Montero, which can’t be a bad thing for someone that young.

by waw on Nov 1, 2011 8:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

Signing Russell to a long term contract allows Montero to learn behind the plate.

It also allows Yanks to consider offers for Cervelli, Romine, & Sanchez ALL of whom are catchers.

by frankiec on Nov 2, 2011 4:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

This….this makes some sense.

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by Brandon C. on Nov 2, 2011 4:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

At least we know Montero will be in the majors

As for pitching, pitching, pitching, the bullpen is already in very good shape so I doubt thats what it means. So pitching means starting pitching, and this year starting pitching pretty much means Wilson or Darvish.

Please get Darvish. He should be their big target this offseason.

Let us all congratulate the Boston Red Sox for becoming the first World Champions in the history of sports to NOT make the postseason! Thats not easy to do!

by nyyrocks29 on Nov 1, 2011 2:41 PM EDT reply actions  

Don't care about lefties

I care about quality pitchers. The hand they throw with is irrelevant.

Let us all congratulate the Boston Red Sox for becoming the first World Champions in the history of sports to NOT make the postseason! Thats not easy to do!

by nyyrocks29 on Nov 1, 2011 8:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

JonLaneNYC Jon Lane
Cash on Yu Darvish: ‘I think like with anything else you learn over time. I think we’re more prepared today than we have been in the past’

Jesus Montero fangirl

by WhatwouldJeterdo on Nov 1, 2011 3:10 PM EDT reply actions  

I thought I had heard of everyone, but who the heck is Jon Lane?

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by Brandon C. on Nov 1, 2011 3:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

He writes for YES, apparently.

I don’t follow him, he was just a retweet on my timeline.

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by WhatwouldJeterdo on Nov 1, 2011 3:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

Does “more prepared” means “more prepared” to spend money on Japanese pitchers? Because if thats the case, then I’m happy.

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by nyyrocks29 on Nov 1, 2011 3:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

Well whatever the case it's probably a good thing

More prepared usually isn’t bad. The more prepared, the better.

Let us all congratulate the Boston Red Sox for becoming the first World Champions in the history of sports to NOT make the postseason! Thats not easy to do!

by nyyrocks29 on Nov 1, 2011 3:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

Depends

With certain movies, the less prepared you are the better

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by I'mGivingYouARaise on Nov 1, 2011 3:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

Possibly

Though that applies anywhere. Not just baseball. I’m sure you can think of plenty of other situations where the less prepared you are the better off you will be.

Let us all congratulate the Boston Red Sox for becoming the first World Champions in the history of sports to NOT make the postseason! Thats not easy to do!

by nyyrocks29 on Nov 1, 2011 3:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

Sex is another, perhaps

I mean, sometimes it’s better to be safe than sorry, but other times wild passionate “ripping off clothes” sex is….wait, what does this have to do with baseball? Oh right, go get Yu!

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by I'mGivingYouARaise on Nov 1, 2011 3:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

Well if Yu is anything like the previous Japanese icon that played for the Yankees

Then I think those two topics could be more closely related, depending on how you look at it.

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by nyyrocks29 on Nov 1, 2011 3:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

kei igawa is the japanese cam newton?

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by nolesbroncos3456 on Nov 1, 2011 3:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

Why of course!

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by nyyrocks29 on Nov 1, 2011 6:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

does it mean, yes I'm prepared for Levine and Hank to overstep my authority again and spend $200 Million on this guy?

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by nolesbroncos3456 on Nov 1, 2011 3:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

yes

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by Rorschach44 on Nov 1, 2011 5:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

Joe Girardi is consulting his binder collection to determine when Rorschach should be brought in from the pen to throw that kind of firepower

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by nolesbroncos3456 on Nov 1, 2011 5:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

this gives me a bad feeling

about their intentions with Montero. I think Cash is gonna try and shop him for pitchers aka King Felix.
Dammit.

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by Tim Mullhaupt (HSS) on Nov 1, 2011 6:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

Shopping him for King Felix is fine

Shopping him for almost anybody else isn’t.

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by nyyrocks29 on Nov 1, 2011 6:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

Felix

and Kershaw (I know that won’t happen) are probably the only two pitchers I would be happy with for Montero.

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by Tim Mullhaupt (HSS) on Nov 1, 2011 6:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

Kershaw is a beast

Though I’ve heard scouts compare ManBan to Kershaw in a lot of ways, so maybe we already have a similar pitcher coming up if things go right for him.

Let us all congratulate the Boston Red Sox for becoming the first World Champions in the history of sports to NOT make the postseason! Thats not easy to do!

by nyyrocks29 on Nov 1, 2011 8:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

My reaction was similiar

No sneezing, though.

But seriously, why? Montero has shown his bat is major league ready. If his catching skills aren’t quite where they would like them (which they don’t seem to be), is he really going to need more than a year or two to reach an acceptable skill level? I don’t understand their thinking. Well, I guess I do when you consider Girardi’s love affair with defense-first catchers, but for shit’s sake, you’ve got a possible phenom waiting to be unleashed and they’re actually considering a long-term deal for Martin?

by bango31 on Nov 1, 2011 6:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

Rec'd

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by Brandon C. on Nov 1, 2011 6:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

So did his lack of playing time behind the plate in September.

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by Frank Campagnola on Nov 1, 2011 9:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

this is a team that continually brings back Sergio Mitre

not sure anything they do says a lot about what they’re thinking.

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by Rorschach44 on Nov 2, 2011 12:03 AM EDT up reply actions  

I think just getting rid of Brackman is a bad move. He was doing much better at the end of the season.

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by TheRealSlimShady on Nov 1, 2011 4:38 PM EDT reply actions  

If they don’t get him back for a lesser/MILB deal, I will be upset.

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by Brandon C. on Nov 1, 2011 4:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

please go after darvish! we cant have texas get him and cj wilson. i think we should keep russel one more year and then go after a better offensive catcher. jesus in the dh role seems like a good idea.

by bbfan5117 on Nov 1, 2011 5:53 PM EDT reply actions  

I’m not sure Texas is in the necessary financial state to make a run at both.

by bango31 on Nov 1, 2011 6:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

why do we care who Texas gets?

they aren’t even in our division. They didn’t even eliminate us from the playoffs. They might not even be a better team. so why do we care? Let them waste all the money they want on CJ “Not an Ace” Wilson and the unproven-yet-somehow-a-must Yu Darvish.

by jetanumba2 on Nov 1, 2011 7:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

well they are better than detroit who did eliminate us. even if we aren’t division rivals we’d have to face them in the playoffs anyway most likely. and if cj and yu do not satisfy you then who do you suppose the yankees go after to bolster their rotation?

by bbfan5117 on Nov 1, 2011 8:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

so its CC, AJ, Nova, Hughes, Noesi?

by bbfan5117 on Nov 1, 2011 8:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

David Phelps or Adam Warren

I actually like Noesi out of the bullpen- I feel he could turn into an Aceves-type pitcher and that can be invaluable to a team. That is, if the binder actually puts him in the games.

I still want Darvish though.

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by nyyrocks29 on Nov 1, 2011 8:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

i thought noesi did a very good job this year. but why not betances or banuelos?

by bbfan5117 on Nov 1, 2011 8:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

They just spent the year at AA

There’s no need to rush them. Especially ManBan, who will be 20 or 21 next season. They’ll probably have inning limits anyways. I don’t want these kids screwed up- they have an opportunity to be really good. So I think starting the year in AAA is the right call for the two of them.

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by nyyrocks29 on Nov 1, 2011 8:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

hey, if they prove themselves in spring training i have no problem with them starting the year in the majors

by bbfan5117 on Nov 1, 2011 9:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

They need to prove they can be consistent over a long stretch of a season. A few appearances in spring training isn’t really going to show if they’ve ironed out their problems (namely control and cutting down on walks).

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by Jedi Master A-Rod on Nov 1, 2011 9:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

lets see them get out of the 6th inning on a consistent basis!

by jetanumba2 on Nov 1, 2011 9:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

They might be able to if they can get their walk rates under 4.5+.

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by Jedi Master A-Rod on Nov 1, 2011 10:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

They don't need to

We have our 6th, 7th, and 8th inning guys then Mo.
Problem solved!

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by david d on Nov 2, 2011 4:39 AM EDT up reply actions  

well the only way to prove that is to put them in the majors a while and examine them. j=keeping them down in AAA when they are ready won’t do anything

by bbfan5117 on Nov 1, 2011 10:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

They’re not at all ready to be in the majors. One or two starts in spring training isn’t going to prove that they are.

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by Jedi Master A-Rod on Nov 1, 2011 10:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

who says they are only gonna start once or twice. these are two of the yankees best pitching prospects. i think they’ll test them out more than that.

by bbfan5117 on Nov 1, 2011 10:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

Why would they not spend a full season in AAA?

Especially considering the Yankees have to be gun shy about rushing young pitchers after Hughes and Joba.

by waw on Nov 1, 2011 10:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

They don’t have to rush it. Remember, they were considering bringing betances i think to the postseason roster, but they didn’t. they are being careful with them and it shows that if girardi and cashman don’t believe they are ready, they won’t bring them up.

by bbfan5117 on Nov 1, 2011 10:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

Betances was never in consideration for the postseason roster.

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by Briceratops on Nov 1, 2011 10:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

i read one of them was

by bbfan5117 on Nov 1, 2011 10:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

they thought about using Banuelos as a LOOGY but thankfully Boone Logan didn’t suck enough to let that happen. They are not ready and no amount of spring training will make them ready.

by jetanumba2 on Nov 1, 2011 10:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

well i believe we will see one of them at least in the bullpen next year

by bbfan5117 on Nov 1, 2011 10:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

Maybe when they reach their innings limit near the end of the season. But if they get Noesi’d next season I will flip a bitch.

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by Briceratops on Nov 1, 2011 10:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

And never will die

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by nyyrocks29 on Nov 1, 2011 11:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

This. Both struggled with the transition to AAA in limited action. They’re still in need of a lot of work before being ML ready.

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by Jedi Master A-Rod on Nov 1, 2011 10:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yup. Maybe I could see one of them getting a shot at the rotation in 2013, but unless they just dominate AAA hitters right away (which I’ll admit is a possibility), I doubt we see them before September for 2012.

Just please don’t Noesi one of them or put them in the bullpen at all. They have control issues right now, but they sitll have the ability to be really good. Don’t mess them up.

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by nyyrocks29 on Nov 1, 2011 11:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

Jedi will make sure not to now that you have asked him.

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by Briceratops on Nov 1, 2011 11:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

It wasn’t in the form of a haiku though, so I’m 50/50 on whether I’ll indulge the request.

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by Jedi Master A-Rod on Nov 1, 2011 11:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

"Killer Bees"

Triple A all year
In the bullpen they would die
Please Jedi do this

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by Briceratops on Nov 1, 2011 11:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

I was all set to rec this

But then I realized the last verse is actually unclear. Perhaps you are asking Jedi to let them die in the bullpen? So, instead of a rec, you are being flagged for advocating the death of Yankees pitching prospects.

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by waw on Nov 2, 2011 12:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

You did not flag him, LIAR

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by Brandon C. on Nov 2, 2011 3:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

well i read on espn that cj loves his situation in texas and i read that potential suitors for darvish included texas as well as the yankees. who would you rather take?

by bbfan5117 on Nov 1, 2011 6:38 PM EDT reply actions  

Easy- Darvish.

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by Andrew GM on Nov 1, 2011 7:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

yea me too. the way cj pitched in the ws was very disappointing. i think darvish could be a very solid starter

by bbfan5117 on Nov 1, 2011 7:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

Darvish will be better than just a solid starter

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by nyyrocks29 on Nov 1, 2011 8:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

x


Future Yankee?


Future Yankee?


Future Yankee?


Future Yankee?

FUTURE YANKEES???

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by Jedi Master A-Rod on Nov 1, 2011 8:08 PM EDT reply actions  

Every one of these players are dominican

If you’re aiming for racial diversity, why don’t you try for some more white guys or asians? The Yankees already have a ton of dominicans.

This is why I want Yu Darvish. He’s Japanese and Iranian. Can’t get more racial than that.

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by nyyrocks29 on Nov 1, 2011 8:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

……………………………………………………….?

Pujols: Dominican
Fielder: American
Reyes: Dominican
Beltran: Puerto Rican

by Lord Duggan on Nov 1, 2011 8:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

Fielder is of African American and Domincan decent

Beltran you are correct on. My mistake.

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by nyyrocks29 on Nov 1, 2011 8:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

so Fielder is Puerto Rican?

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by Rorschach44 on Nov 1, 2011 8:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

:: head explodes ::

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by Briceratops on Nov 1, 2011 8:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

starting pitching

I’m sorry but I’m not impressed with Wilson. Too erratic good/bad bad/good. Will the real Wilson please stand up?

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