New York Yankee News: Baseball Outside New York Edition
by jscape2000 on Oct 8, 2011 9:30 AM EDT
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If you missed the NLDS Game 5s last night, you missed baseball at its best.
Roy Halladay, the best pitcher in baseball, my favorite pitcher to watch work, pitched 8 innings of 1 run ball and lost because Chris Carpenter threw a complete game 3 hit shutout.
Suddenly, the Phillies with their overwhelming rotation and the best record in baseball, are home for the winter.
The Brewers-Diamondbacks game was even more exciting, with a safety squeeze in the top of the ninth to keep the Diamondbacks' season alive, before a walk-off single. They'll meet the Cardinals in the NLCS; the last time they won a postseason series (in 1982) they were an American League team, and they played the Cardinals in the World Series.
Are the Yankees hesitant to add more than a year or two to CC Sabathia's deal? They should be; a Cliff Lee deal ($125M/5Y) would take Sabathia to age 36, mark a $2M/Y raise and a year extension.
After solving the Sabathia question, is CJ Wilson the Yankees' top target?
Is the only way for the Yankees to make the ALCS to play the Twins in the Division Series?
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Cliff Lee,how did that work out.
Plz yankees keep all the young players we have. The overpaid superstar thing is not working in sports anymore.
This has been the most exciting first round of playoffs since they added the wildcard.
It required all but one of the possible games to decide, and all three Game 5’s had one-run margins of victory. While I’m disappointed as a Yankee fan (though not nearly as much as last year, in spite of their earlier exit this year,) I’m pretty psyched for the three series yet to come.
Usqueadbaugham! Anam muck an dhoul ! Did ye drink me doornail?
by Q-TDSK on Oct 8, 2011 10:26 AM EDT via mobile reply actions
Pretty much Jscape.
After CC, Wilson and Darvish are the main targets this off-season. We really need one of them.
Pretty much going to lock up CC this off-season. If we don’t this team will regress to an 85-89 win team.
So CC, Nova, Burnett, Hughes, Dellin? The ? means really don’t have a 5th starter.
That looks like our rotation right now. Which is scary because Dellin isn’t ready.
Residing on the BEast coast.
I don't think the rotation will be too terrible next year
*I’m assuming that CC will come back because CC likes the Yankees and they like CC, so both sides will be working to keep him in NY.
*If Nova can keep up the dominance he had as a rookie, he is definitely a top-of-the-rotation starter
*I don’t think Hughes will have the same awful season next year as he did this year. I think they will figure out away to get him in shape before next season (or hire Dr. Frankenstein to replace Gene Monahan!)
*AJ is still AJ. His peripherals (aside from HR) improved or remained constant from last year to this year, so maybe he will have a good year next season.
*We don’t need Betances to be the fifth starter next year (necessarily). I’m sure there are plenty of scrap heap guys Cash-money can cobble together into a fifth starter. But at the same time, is it necessarily a bad thing to debut another rookie starter next year?
Even without Wilson or Darvish, I don’t think the rotation will be as scary as you think.
it's time for him to go
not necesarily cuz he’s bad, just time i think.
I never think that there's something I can't do, whether it's beating my opponent one on one or practicing another hour because something about my game is just not right. - Magic
I am officially on the Buffalo Bills' bandwagon.
I'd love to keep Freddy
He’s learned how to pitch and is a scrappy guy who keeps them in games. He might not hit 90 consistently, but he keeps hitters off balance and hits the spots. I’d love to see Freddy back as the #5 if Banuelos/Betances don’t overwhelm in spring training.
The problem is that the only sure thing there is CC
I don’t want a rotation that has one small question mark (Nova) and two huge ones(Hughes, Burnett).
"Son, Nobody is half as good as Mickey Mantle"
I like playing the Twins in the playoffs
It’s more fun. The Yankees are what? 12-2 against them in playoff baseball?
CC needs to be brought back, but if he asks for a ridiculous length and amount of money for his deal, then I might actually consider letting him go. He says he loves pitching here, he lives here and his kids go to school here, and nobody will be able to outbid the Yankees anyways so I don’t think it’ll be an issue. But if some team wants to come along and give him a 6+ year deal upwards of 20 million a year, then they can have him.
Sign Yu Darvish please, and put Hughes back in the rotation. I really want a CC-Darvish-Nova-Burnett-Hughes rotation in 2012. I think that would be a very strong group to head into the season to, and a lot of depth and good arms waiting in the minor leagues too.
Let us all congratulate the Boston Red Sox for becoming the first World Champions in the history of sports to NOT make the postseason! Thats not easy to do!
Yep
and the only way for the Twins to advance beyond the first round is to not play the Yankees…I remember those last days of the 2010 season, wondering if my Twins would play the Yankees or the Rays. With the Rays, we knew we had a pretty good shot to move on but once we learned it was the Yankees, we lost all hope. You guys seem to have some weird psychological effect on the Twins. We turn into jelly.
The beard abides.
by Jason Kubel's Beard on Oct 8, 2011 12:42 PM EDT up reply actions
I'd let CC opt out and give him an extension.
why not? If there’s one thing that you can predict, its an old LH pitcher aging well. And while CC throws hard, I don’t really see him as a power pitcher.
I’d sign Darvish over CJ Wilson. They’re both risks, but only one costs draft picks…and draft picks that’d go to the Rangers to boot. Don’t do that.
Its funny about the beating the Twins thing. Their pitching just isn’t “Yankee proof” in that they don’t have much in the power arm department. I think that’s why they get beat all the time…A-Rod can catch up with their fastballs and they’re not really strikeout guys aside from Liriano when he’s on.
Last night, a comedian died in New York. Somebody knows why. Somebody knows
Wilson is over 30
Darvish just turned 25
Let us all congratulate the Boston Red Sox for becoming the first World Champions in the history of sports to NOT make the postseason! Thats not easy to do!
Oh Darvish is the guy I want now.
Wilson seemed young for a reason. Well I mean younger than 30. That’s getting old for baseball.
Residing on the BEast coast.
One thing for Darvish, people who say that he is only so good because the balls they use in Japan are smaller and easier to spin, they switched this year to a ball that is almost identical to the ball in MLB, and he still had an ERA under 2.
The Savior has come, and he is glorious. #63
And what makes that even more impressive is that their league average ERA went up almost a full run with the new ball.
The Savior has come, and he is glorious. #63
So is CJ Wilson
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by Jedi Master A-Rod on Oct 8, 2011 1:50 PM EDT up reply actions
Career 1.43 ERA in 44 IP against Boston. (4-1) That’s enough for me!
Career 2.25 ERA in 40 IP against TB. (4-0) Need I say more?
"Unpleasant Internet Dude"
yes, say more
cuz AJ Burnett was great against those teams too and played in the AL East for a few years.
Last night, a comedian died in New York. Somebody knows why. Somebody knows
Oh, and let me add
that nowhere did I say anything about CJ Wilson…But since you brought him up…You Dervish couldn’t even carry his jockstrap.
"Unpleasant Internet Dude"
CJ Wilson and the Rangers face the A's and Mariners almost 40 times a year
and I would say the Angels lineup is pretty terrible for a ‘contending’ team in the AL. So all of his division games are all against inferior talent.
Last night, a comedian died in New York. Somebody knows why. Somebody knows
See above
That’s what I’m talking about. Do your research. Oh, but Darvish is filthy against Japanese league players. Lol!
"Unpleasant Internet Dude"
and see what I said
cuz what you stated means absolutely nothing.
Last night, a comedian died in New York. Somebody knows why. Somebody knows
For you too
Where did I mention anything about CJ Wilson? I don’t want him either but Darvish will never be as good as him.
"Unpleasant Internet Dude"
So are Phelps, Warren and the Killer Bs
But yet, you think we should give them a chance when they are facing worse hitters than the ones in Japan, AND all had ERA’s well over 2 (over 3 actually).
Darvish>>>>>>Anybody in the Yankees minor league system.
Let us all congratulate the Boston Red Sox for becoming the first World Champions in the history of sports to NOT make the postseason! Thats not easy to do!
How can you say
they are facing “worse hitters than in Japan”? Sorry, but that’s dumb and I thought better of you than that. Just because you want a player you make this kind of statement?
"Unpleasant Internet Dude"
Average Japanese players have always been thought of as a talent in between AAA and the majors. Say Darvish was pitching in AAA and he had an ERA under 2 four straight years. Would you want him in the majors or not? Even if Japanese hitters were at the same level as the average AAA player, he’s still better than anyone in the minor league system.
Either you are completely against spending any kind of money (in which case you are a fan of the wrong team), or you have never seen Yu Darvish pitch. Just watch some of his videos and see his numbers in Japan. Every bit of evidence says that he is filthy. And he’s 25, won’t cost as much as other FA pitchers and won’t cost a draft pick. With the upside he will likely bring I feel thats definitely worth the risk.
Let us all congratulate the Boston Red Sox for becoming the first World Champions in the history of sports to NOT make the postseason! Thats not easy to do!
You know not what you say
Darvish is just filthy. Absolutely filthy.
by HappyLuckyGoldenDragonNumber1! on Oct 8, 2011 11:59 PM EDT up reply actions
New York Yankees right-hander Daniel Gil, who is on the Class-A Tampa Yankees, was suspended 50 games for testing positive for Sibutramine, a performance-enhancing drug.
Oh good.
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by Jedi Master A-Rod on Oct 8, 2011 2:31 PM EDT reply actions
The text about the MIL-ARI series implies an ARI win
Look at it again. I know you didn’t mean that.
A comment about CC from a post earlier today
I couldn’t agree more and am delighted to see someone else (david d) say so
CC is a great pitcher TODAY and will be for a few more years, but this isn’t about the next few years. It is about the years that follow. With his weight issues, his body is going to start to break down. Now, if he lost 75 pounds and got into shape, that would be different. I would sign him until he was 40. But, you just can’t get away with being grossly overweight (no matter how big a man you are) once you get to your mid-30s. His knees or back, or both, will give way and we will be stuck with another A-Rod contract that will hold the team back for years, like Giambi’s did at the end, but on a much larger scale as you only have five starters and one ace.
Frankly, his pitching THIS YEAR wasn’t all that great past mid-August which is a big red flag indicating fatigue. Forget about the "too much rest" excuses. That makes no sense and certainly doesn’t apply to his performance in the ALDS.
Actually, given his great character and the way the series and season ended, I wouldn’t be the least bit surprised if he DIDN’T opt out. 23M per year is a lot of money and CC has something to prove now. Maybe he will see that now is not the time to be asking for more years and more money. We shall see soon enough.
Too much rest = out of sync. CC historically has been better on normal rest than long rest. And you really think the ALDS rain didn’t have an effect on him? Lets say game one was more of a side session. then it would have meant CC didn’t pitch much for over a week. He looked amazing in game one in 2 innings outside of a YS special, then was off in game 5. And what’s to say CC can’t lose weight later on in his career if he feels the need to.
He may opt out. After all he bargained for the clause so why shouldn’t he take advantage of it. But if he has any real character he should just try to get the money upped to Cliff Lee level and not ask for more years because it would really harm the club and he has to know that by then he likely would not be really earning it. If it were me (And I know its easy to say as I sit at my computer typing this with no athletic skill whatsoever) I would be willing to make the huge money now while I am a star ace and if I desire to still pitch in my declining years, I would be happy to sign a contract commiserate with my current level of skill ala Andy Pettitte. I would not want the pressure of falling to a mediocre level (at best) while taking Ace money.
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