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ALDS Game Two: Tigers 5 - Yankees 3

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In a game full of strangeness and oddity, the Detroit Tigers took game two of the ALDS from the New York Yankees, moving the series to Detroit in a 1-1 tie. Falling behind early, the Yankees window for a comeback became narrower and narrower, and when they did make it interesting in the ninth inning, it wasn't quite enough.

The Tigers held on to win 5-3, with a huge Game Three matchup between Justin Verlander and CC Sabathia looming. Game notes after the jump:

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  • Yankees starting pitcher Freddy Garcia won't get credit for a great line: 5.1 IP - 4R/3ER - 6 H - 0 BB - 6 K, but really did pitch a good game. He got ten groundball outs and six strikeouts, but was victimized by some bad luck and shoddy defense. And Miguel Cabrera. He's good.
  • Tigers starting pitcher Max Scherzer took a no hitter into the sixth inning, striking out five and using his big fastball (up to 97.9 MPH). The Yankees were able to draw four walks and drive up Scherzer's pitch count, knocking him out of the game before he recorded an out in the 7th inning, but couldn't find any grass in the outfield for most of the game.
  • Derek Jeter and Alex Rodriguez left quite a lot to be desired. It's only one game and they both had a few good swings, but just about every fastball was beating them. Throw in Jeter butchering a routine ground ball to begin a Tigers rally and this game won't be on anyone's Yankeeography.
  • Nick Swisher and Curtis Granderson shook off some playoff doldrums with home runs to right field. Jorge Posada reached base three times, including a triple. John Sterling could not have predicted this.
  • Why use Luis Ayala when David Robertson, Mariano Rivera, and Rafael Soriano have thrown a combined three pitches since Tuesday?
  • Jose Valverde made things very interesting in the ninth inning. Staked a four run lead, the Yankees scored two runs before getting the tying run on first base for Robinson Cano. After fouling off some hittable fastballs, Cano bounced out to second base, ending the game.
  • In his only plate appearance, Andruw Jones hit a rocket to the right field corner that could have easily been a two run double, but pinch runner/defensive replacement Don Kelly got a good jump and tracked it down. A few inches here or there could have really made the difference for the Yankees, with this play and a Victor Martinez RBI single (that was a few inches from an inning ending double play) coming to mind.
  • But, then again, there was that Avila play. With two outs in the bottom of the ninth, Curtis Granderson popped up behind the plate. Catcher Alex Avila ran towards the Tigers dugout to make the catch for the final out of the game, but slipped on the wet ground, allowing the ball to fall.
Everything is now set up for a huge Game Three between the two aces, Sabathia and Verlander. Dial the hype machine up to 11 and prepare for some narratives.

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Home field advantage switches to the Tiggers

by NYYankeeDude on Oct 2, 2011 6:47 PM EDT reply actions  

Let's face it....the only the fucking rain had home field advantage these past two games.

"You know as painful as it is I've had to let a few people go over the years. ..Yogi Berra, Lou Piniella, Bucky Dent, Billy Martin, Dallas Green, Billy Martin, Stump Merrill, Billy Martin, Bob Lemon, Billy Martin".

by ReprezentinNJerz on Oct 2, 2011 6:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

Nice one offense.

And fuck you Ayala!

The quest for excellence is eternal.

by Xavier10 on Oct 2, 2011 6:47 PM EDT reply actions  

+1

he actually did ok, considering its Ayala

by yanksrule on Oct 2, 2011 9:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

Not.

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by Jedi Master A-Rod on Oct 2, 2011 9:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

Omit the word 'might' and I agree.

"You know as painful as it is I've had to let a few people go over the years. ..Yogi Berra, Lou Piniella, Bucky Dent, Billy Martin, Dallas Green, Billy Martin, Stump Merrill, Billy Martin, Bob Lemon, Billy Martin".

by ReprezentinNJerz on Oct 2, 2011 6:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

try to deny the truth of this statement

@joe_sheehan: Girardi, in one hour, PH for a guy with a worse hitter and used his sixth-best reliever when his top three had thrown .1 IP since Tuesday.

by long time listener on Oct 2, 2011 6:47 PM EDT reply actions  

picked the Yanks to win in 4

i thought this would be the game they’d lose. what i take from this game is that Valverde is not intimidating and the Yankees won’t easily give up. i’m still very excited for this postseason

I'd like to thank the good Lord for making me a Yankee fan.

by NJsandman on Oct 2, 2011 6:48 PM EDT reply actions  

Freddy pitched great.

Girardi and Teixeira killed us today.

by Briceratops on Oct 2, 2011 6:48 PM EDT reply actions  

Jeter!

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by Jedi Master A-Rod on Oct 2, 2011 6:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

He looks done

Sad

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by david d on Oct 2, 2011 7:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

based on him being off coming back from injury? He looked the same in 2009 when he first came back.

by lololol on Oct 2, 2011 7:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

Regardless

of the circumstances. He’s not helping the team.

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by david d on Oct 2, 2011 7:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

Maybe not

But saying he “looks done” is like saying his career is over. He’s had stretches this year before he got hurt where he looked as good as he’s been since 2007. He’s off because he hasn’t played consistently and is still banged up. Not because he’s “done”.

And I’d give him more than 2 games before calling his postseason a failure, though judging by the boos he got at the stadium today it seems like not all Yankee fans think that way.

Let us all congratulate the Boston Red Sox for becoming the first World Champions in the history of sports to NOT make the postseason! Thats not easy to do!

by nyyrocks29 on Oct 2, 2011 8:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

He has always been a lightning rod for fan dissatisfaction

Fair or not, the paycheck he gets is a large reason for this. 2009 was great, and got him a lot of love, but I’m not at all surprised at how many people want to write him off every time he has a bad stretch.

by waw on Oct 2, 2011 8:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

I don't understand it, to be honest

I mean, I know about the contract. But A-Rod was this teams best player in 2004, 2005, 2006, 2007, 2008, and 2009 (for the number of ABs anyway) and then for the second half of last season as well (especially after he came off the DL last year).

Since he’s been in NY he’s been by far the most productive Yankee and he’s the only Yankee to win an MVP for a long time. And yet he’s the guy the fans pick out to boo when there’s plenty of others in the lineup who didn’t hit today. I was a little disgusted. It’s only been two games.

Let us all congratulate the Boston Red Sox for becoming the first World Champions in the history of sports to NOT make the postseason! Thats not easy to do!

by nyyrocks29 on Oct 2, 2011 8:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

A-Rod getting booed is bullshit.

Yankee Stadium was full of idiots today. (Not you Barnd!)

by Briceratops on Oct 2, 2011 8:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

He was probably the leader!

Let us all congratulate the Boston Red Sox for becoming the first World Champions in the history of sports to NOT make the postseason! Thats not easy to do!

by nyyrocks29 on Oct 2, 2011 8:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

I don't give a damn what amount is on his paycheck

I get pissed when the guy in the cleanup spot doesn’t do a damn thing two games in a row when guys in front of him get on base. Same goes for the guy in the 5-spot who can’t drive in runs. It’s frustrating to watch a hole develop in what is supposed to be the heart of the lineup.

by bango31 on Oct 2, 2011 11:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

And

We get AJ on Tuesday for game 4

Not good at all

by NYYankeeDude on Oct 2, 2011 6:49 PM EDT reply actions  

I consider this a good thing

Let us all congratulate the Boston Red Sox for becoming the first World Champions in the history of sports to NOT make the postseason! Thats not easy to do!

by nyyrocks29 on Oct 2, 2011 8:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

I am very encouraged by the late innings

The offense woke up. Detroit’s supposedly strong bullpen (Al New Mexico, Benoit, and Valverde) all showed weakness. Once again, outside of Ayala, the Yankees bullpen was strong.

The Yankees could easily have won this, with a little better luck and defense (and binder). This is far different from 2006, when the Yankees won game 1 and then lost three straight, including a no-hitter. All they have to do is win one in Detroit, and bring the series back home. That is perfectly doable. Don’t buy in to the bullshit narratives that will try to tell you that the Yankees were shut down, and now Verlander and Fister will pitch complete game shutouts. That ain’t gonna happen.

by waw on Oct 2, 2011 6:50 PM EDT reply actions  

Blame in order:

Girardi
Tex
A-Rod
Jeter
Ayala
Rain

The quest for excellence is eternal.

by Xavier10 on Oct 2, 2011 6:50 PM EDT reply actions  

Intangibles?

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by Xavier10 on Oct 2, 2011 6:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

I blame Girardi for that one.

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by Xavier10 on Oct 2, 2011 6:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

I don't give A-Rod a ton of blame

OK, he didn’t hit, but he wasn’t alone in that. At least he also did not give up any runs with poor defense or mental mistakes.

by waw on Oct 2, 2011 6:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

Bottom WPA: Jeter, Cano and Jones (only cuz he made a big out)

by lololol on Oct 2, 2011 6:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

He left 6 men in scoring position. A very poor game.

by Dougrhon on Oct 2, 2011 7:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

win as a team

lose as a team

I'd like to thank the good Lord for making me a Yankee fan.

by NJsandman on Oct 2, 2011 6:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

why ayala was put there is beyond me...

Especially considering c.c. can easily go 7ip tomorrow…oh well…get em c.c.

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by NYYWinsRings27 on Oct 2, 2011 6:51 PM EDT via mobile reply actions  

Lots of hate for Ayala here

The Yanks scored 3 runs all day. Garcia was charged with 4.

I’m just an interloping Tigers fan, but it seems to me like Ayala to blame for the loss (although you guys seem to feel the same way about him that Tiger fans feel about Schlereth…like maybe he’s a spy player from another team sent to sabotage your changes).

Anyhow, I think you guys got what you should have expected from a pitching angle this game. Five runs against a good Detroit lineup during a Garcia start is not bad at all. The offense just needed to muster a bit more.

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by momotigers on Oct 2, 2011 10:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

This game was a hit away from being tied in the ninth

So, don’t get too comfortable with your supposed pitching advantage. For all that we heard about the relative pitching, the Tigers should have won by at least 5 runs.

by waw on Oct 2, 2011 10:29 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

I didn't say I was comfortable

I don’t think I’m ever comfortable against the Yankees. Too many good hitters and the way the Yanks play ball is tough on other teams; even those with good pitching (and the Tigers are still a high quality starter away from what I would call having good pitching).

I guess my point was that the game would have been a loss regardless of whether Ayala or Robertson or whoever came in and and regardless of whether they gave up 6 runs or struck out every batter they faced.

I was impressed with Nova in Game 1. I had only seen one other start from him this year and he wasn’t nearly as good as he was on Saturday. If he can build on this season and trade a few walks for K’s, he could be a helluva pitcher.

The other sports are just sports. Baseball is a love. ~Bryant Gumbel, 1981

by momotigers on Oct 3, 2011 10:39 AM EDT up reply actions  

its built up hate for Ayala

Girardi puts him in games that are winnable, in the 9th inning way too many times. The guy is a mop that lets 3R deficits go to 4 or more all the time.

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by Rorschach44 on Oct 3, 2011 4:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

No fucking kidding.

"in order that you will write correctly of wat you really see if you dint go around with your eyes shut"
Cricket blog?

by MattF15 on Oct 2, 2011 6:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

Clearly.

"in order that you will write correctly of wat you really see if you dint go around with your eyes shut"
Cricket blog?

by MattF15 on Oct 2, 2011 6:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

you say

we lost this game, let’s win the one tomorrow

I'd like to thank the good Lord for making me a Yankee fan.

by NJsandman on Oct 2, 2011 6:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

ha

i don’t get all the negativity. the Yankees were outplayed the entire game but then almost came all the way back against one of the best closers in the entire league this year. there were some positives in this game to take away. the Yankees are a much better team than the Tigers

I'd like to thank the good Lord for making me a Yankee fan.

by NJsandman on Oct 2, 2011 6:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

They really weren't even outplayed all that much

Cabrera almost single-handedly screwed us this game. Otherwise, Freddy pitched great and the offense almost came back. Some better defense, a little bit of BABIP luck, and our manager not doing some stupid things at times, and we could’ve won.

"WHO WOULD LEAD?! THE CLOWN?!"

by I'mGivingYouARaise on Oct 2, 2011 6:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

This is what I truly love about the Yankees

No matter how bad it looks, they are never really out of a game. Even in their losses, it’s rare that you can say they were not close to pulling it out in the end.

by waw on Oct 2, 2011 6:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

Lots of fight

I’ll give Yankee fans that. The team is confident and works the pitcher, regardless of score.

The other sports are just sports. Baseball is a love. ~Bryant Gumbel, 1981

by momotigers on Oct 2, 2011 10:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

Piss on Detroit.

Just once I'd like someone to call me "Sir," without adding, "You're making a scene."

by YankeeCarp on Oct 2, 2011 6:52 PM EDT reply actions  

Cabrera is just un-fucking-fair

The hits he got off of Freddy were just insane.

"WHO WOULD LEAD?! THE CLOWN?!"

by I'mGivingYouARaise on Oct 2, 2011 6:53 PM EDT reply actions  

imagine if

Montero becomes as good as Cabrera?

I'd like to thank the good Lord for making me a Yankee fan.

by NJsandman on Oct 2, 2011 6:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

lol

Let’s compare him to one of the best right handed hitters of all time!

by Briceratops on Oct 2, 2011 6:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

He said imagine.

The quest for excellence is eternal.

by Xavier10 on Oct 2, 2011 6:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

Imagine if Montero could find a fucking AB at some point

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by Jedi Master A-Rod on Oct 2, 2011 6:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

Do you believe in miracles?

The quest for excellence is eternal.

by Xavier10 on Oct 2, 2011 6:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

Montero should have hit for Gardner there

I agreed with Joe’s idea to get somebody in there who may be able to hit one out, but Chavez is NOT the guy to go to.

Let us all congratulate the Boston Red Sox for becoming the first World Champions in the history of sports to NOT make the postseason! Thats not easy to do!

by nyyrocks29 on Oct 2, 2011 8:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

Bullpens will come into play tomorrow

CC and Verlander both on short rest. And I’d rather have Yankee pen right now.

by stusviews on Oct 2, 2011 6:53 PM EDT reply actions  

yes please

I hope his first inning ineffectiveness carries over to tomorrow

by lololol on Oct 2, 2011 6:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

Save those pitchers Joe LOL

Joe out-managed again Thats 12 this year and counting!

by Tricon111 on Oct 2, 2011 6:55 PM EDT reply actions  

Ayala forever

Seriously no D-Rob? He hasn’t pitched in a few days and Ayala was just in (and sucking) yesterday. 4realz. D-Rob’s probably getting cold too…

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by Andrew GM on Oct 2, 2011 6:57 PM EDT via iPhone app reply actions  

Ok, Fixed the Blame List

Girardi
Jeter
Tex
Ayala
A-Rod
Chavez

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by Xavier10 on Oct 2, 2011 7:00 PM EDT reply actions  

It's not Chavez's fault, he never should have been up there

And a lot of the blame has to go to the entire offense for making Max Scherzer look like Roy fucking Halladay for 6 innings.

by YankeesRock on Oct 2, 2011 7:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

Dammit

Girardi
Jeter
THE WHOLE FUCKING OFFENSE THROUGH SIX INNINGS.

The quest for excellence is eternal.

by Xavier10 on Oct 2, 2011 7:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

+ The Ump

The quest for excellence is eternal.

by Xavier10 on Oct 2, 2011 7:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

+ whoever in the organization decided that Montero is just a showpiece

that we trot out to hit home runs in meaningless September games but not in games that actually matter.

by YankeesRock on Oct 2, 2011 7:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

Exactly

Look at his Boston and Tampa numbers.

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by Xavier10 on Oct 2, 2011 7:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

I disagree.

I think pitchFX would back up this assertion but he had a wife strikezone for both teams. I don’t think either team was the beneficiary.

by Briceratops on Oct 2, 2011 7:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

The fact that he sucked randomly for both teams doesn't change the fact that it affected our hitters.

I’d argue our hitters are better, so it affected them more*.

  • = This has nothing to do with facts and everything to do with my current RAGE

by waw on Oct 2, 2011 7:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

Joe had a chance to stop the bleeding in the 6th

But no he just sat there saving his best pitchers who where all rested and now still are LOL

by Tricon111 on Oct 2, 2011 7:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

There is only one on that list

Joe has not figured out yet how to give his team a chance to win when there losing.

by Tricon111 on Oct 2, 2011 7:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

Please

Aaron Rodgers is the G.O.A.T

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by Xavier10 on Oct 2, 2011 7:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

Damn

You’re screwed.

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by Xavier10 on Oct 2, 2011 7:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

Uh.

"in order that you will write correctly of wat you really see if you dint go around with your eyes shut"
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by MattF15 on Oct 2, 2011 7:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

I honestly don't know what the fuck Girardi is thinking.....

He…he……arrgggh. I’m not mad…I’m just angry.

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by ReprezentinNJerz on Oct 2, 2011 7:04 PM EDT reply actions  

Punch a kitten.

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by Xavier10 on Oct 2, 2011 7:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

through an electric fan.

"You know as painful as it is I've had to let a few people go over the years. ..Yogi Berra, Lou Piniella, Bucky Dent, Billy Martin, Dallas Green, Billy Martin, Stump Merrill, Billy Martin, Bob Lemon, Billy Martin".

by ReprezentinNJerz on Oct 2, 2011 7:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

Why on earth did I pick the Giants for the PSA survival League?

by bloppy_ploppy on Oct 2, 2011 7:05 PM EDT reply actions  

Yankees New York Yankees
Girardi on Ayala over Soriano, Robertson in 9th: “We still have two more games in a row, in a sense. And we’re down three.”

Oh

"WHO WOULD LEAD?! THE CLOWN?!"

by I'mGivingYouARaise on Oct 2, 2011 7:11 PM EDT reply actions  

He has not been watching this team.

It’s the only explanation. He’s been too busy doodling in the margins of the Binder.

by waw on Oct 2, 2011 7:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

Posada scoring should have been the winning run

But then the the relivers would have all been used. I’ll take that up 2 games to none though.

by Tricon111 on Oct 2, 2011 7:11 PM EDT reply actions  

Diamondbacks..........

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by Xavier10 on Oct 2, 2011 7:15 PM EDT reply actions  

Taking it deep.

The quest for excellence is eternal.

by Xavier10 on Oct 2, 2011 7:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

Really deep

The quest for excellence is eternal.

by Xavier10 on Oct 2, 2011 7:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

Blowing it like Boston.

The quest for excellence is eternal.

by Xavier10 on Oct 2, 2011 7:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

I like this...blowing it like Boston

Perhaps it could become sexual innuendo. As in, “We fooled around a bit…one time, she gave me a Boston ’11 in the movie theater.”

The other sports are just sports. Baseball is a love. ~Bryant Gumbel, 1981

by momotigers on Oct 2, 2011 10:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

I've already had a few of those

Last night, a comedian died in New York. Somebody knows why. Somebody knows

by Rorschach44 on Oct 3, 2011 4:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

Braun.

THOW SHAL NOT PASS.

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by Xavier10 on Oct 2, 2011 7:20 PM EDT reply actions  

Dang

The quest for excellence is eternal.

by Xavier10 on Oct 2, 2011 8:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

By the way...

Is EVERY stadium doing the towel spinning thing except us?

"WHO WOULD LEAD?! THE CLOWN?!"

by I'mGivingYouARaise on Oct 2, 2011 7:21 PM EDT reply actions  

good.

and every team is doing the claw thing except for us

by jetanumba2 on Oct 2, 2011 7:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

If they were gonna lose, good thing it was by two

cuz if it was by one, and it was cuz they brought Luis Ayala in a playoff game down by 3 I’d be flipping a shit

Last night, a comedian died in New York. Somebody knows why. Somebody knows

by Rorschach44 on Oct 2, 2011 7:32 PM EDT reply actions  

exactly

If they had lost this game as a direct result of Ayala, I would have run amok. Now I’m just walking amok, because pinch-hitting for Gardner was a terrible decision.

by long time listener on Oct 2, 2011 7:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

I would've PH for Gardner in the 9th with Jones

but not when they did it originally, and not with Eric Chavez.

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by Rorschach44 on Oct 2, 2011 7:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

Agreed

PH him for Chavez made no sense, and Girardi even said in the post game that the ONLY reason he did is was because he “hoped Chavez popped one out” which boggles the mind, especially if he’s using Chavez over Jesus.

"WHO WOULD LEAD?! THE CLOWN?!"

by I'mGivingYouARaise on Oct 2, 2011 7:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

in that case Gardner is more likely to pop one out

or hit a double. or get on base. or work the count.

by jetanumba2 on Oct 2, 2011 7:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

Does Girardi really not know that Gardner has a better shot of hitting an extra base hit than Chavez? The binder doesn’t have the hitter’s triple slash lines in there?

by Briceratops on Oct 2, 2011 7:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

It has cute drawings of every hitter.

Along with unicorns and dwagons.

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by Xavier10 on Oct 2, 2011 7:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

A question for everyone.

Which manager would you prefer?

Joe Girardi

or

Joe Torre

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by Xavier10 on Oct 2, 2011 7:43 PM EDT reply actions  

they each have their shortcomings

Like any other manager. Regardless of who you’d prefer, it didn’t make a whole lot of sense to use Chavez, or Ayala. You can like Girardi and still concede he didn’t have a great game.

by long time listener on Oct 2, 2011 7:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

it seemed like he got that way only towards the end

He had more reliable relievers in the 90s, and didn’t have to lean on any one of them. When he had Mo and a more questionable supporting cast behind him, there was the temptation to keep using the only reliable guys. I give Girardi credit for staying away from that.

by long time listener on Oct 2, 2011 7:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

Definitely Girardi. Not that I’m any huge fan of his.

by Lord Duggan on Oct 2, 2011 7:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

I agree.

The quest for excellence is eternal.

by Xavier10 on Oct 2, 2011 7:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

Girardi, by far

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by david d on Oct 2, 2011 7:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

Girardi

Not close. D-Rob would’ve been Proctor’d this year.

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by Andrew GM on Oct 2, 2011 7:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

Girardi

Girardi is better at in game managing. Torre was better at managing douches and egos in the clubhouse and somehow making them overachieve. When looking at this particular team, all of them are good people and good teammates that want to win, so I’d pick the better in-game manager. Girardi is FAR better at bullpen managing. Especially for long-term.

Let us all congratulate the Boston Red Sox for becoming the first World Champions in the history of sports to NOT make the postseason! Thats not easy to do!

by nyyrocks29 on Oct 2, 2011 8:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

if that's true....

than wouldn’t AJ Burnett be a Cy Young contendor?

by yanksrule on Oct 2, 2011 9:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

Rec if u agree

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by Xavier10 on Oct 2, 2011 10:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

Me

"WHO WOULD LEAD?! THE CLOWN?!"

by I'mGivingYouARaise on Oct 2, 2011 11:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

How can you not beat the throw

when it hits the pitcher, trickled through the infield and the pitcher is slow to get to it and has to turn 180 to throw to first.

by jetanumba2 on Oct 2, 2011 7:51 PM EDT reply actions  

The Red Sox want Torre.

Yes Please!

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by Xavier10 on Oct 2, 2011 7:57 PM EDT reply actions  

It would be like sabotage.

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by Xavier10 on Oct 2, 2011 8:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

I came here to do just that

His presence at the game ruined EVERYTHING!

All hype no bite teams of 2010-2011:
2010 Miami Heat-Cry me a River like a Bosh.
2011 Boston Red Sox-45 ESPN experts picked the wrong AL East Champion.
2011 Philadelphia Eagles-Its not so sunny in Philadelphia anymore.

by Livestrong77nyy on Oct 2, 2011 7:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

Forgot about him

He should have streaked while growing skittles towards Scherzer.

The quest for excellence is eternal.

by Xavier10 on Oct 2, 2011 7:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

Throwing

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by Xavier10 on Oct 2, 2011 7:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

Let Jesus lead us to victory tomorrow

Go Yankees! That is all.

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2010 Miami Heat-Cry me a River like a Bosh.
2011 Boston Red Sox-45 ESPN experts picked the wrong AL East Champion.
2011 Philadelphia Eagles-Its not so sunny in Philadelphia anymore.

by Livestrong77nyy on Oct 2, 2011 7:59 PM EDT reply actions  

As much as I have been blaming Girardi for crap like Ayala and the Chavez AB

I’ll give him credit for being right about Posada. The guy has continued to hit right-handed pitching well in this series. As much as I’d love to see Montero get some ABs, Posada was one of the few today who did plenty to get the Yankees a win.

by waw on Oct 2, 2011 8:13 PM EDT reply actions   1 recs

I agree

I preferred Montero but I always felt that having Posada in there wasn’t the end of the world because he’s been decent against righties this year. But he’s been more than decent with the bat this series, and I’m feeling more confident with him every time he gets a hit. That was a great AB he worked in the ninth.

He’s earning the playing time he’s getting right now, and I want him right back in there against Verlander tomorrow.

Let us all congratulate the Boston Red Sox for becoming the first World Champions in the history of sports to NOT make the postseason! Thats not easy to do!

by nyyrocks29 on Oct 2, 2011 8:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

I also sort of figured that if you were going to have Montero pinch hit

you’d do it for Martin, rather than Posada. Especially since it was the bottom of the ninth.

by DennisLB on Oct 2, 2011 9:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

Let's go Cardinals

And not the ones in Arizona.

by bango31 on Oct 2, 2011 8:36 PM EDT reply actions  

Credit to Posada

People have hated on him all season, sometimes fairly and sometimes unfairly. But if you’re hating on him now it would go into the unfair category. He’s hitting, he’s having good ABs and is as locked in over these past two games as I’ve seen him all season at the plate. Especially today, with a great AB against a really good closer.

As for the game, they didn’t lose because of Girardi. They lost because they couldn’t hit a mediocre fly ball pitcher. He pitched a good game but I’d have expected a better showing from the hitters and it ended up costing them. Joe made questionable decisions obviously, but he was in no way directly involved in the loss. Jeter’s error was huge and the inability to hit with RISP was big as well, and that’s all on the players in the game. Not the manager.

And nice job by Freddy Garcia too. He was much better than I thought he’d be and much better than the line shows. I was worried about his smoke and mirrors in the playoffs but today was good, and if they advance I’m more comfortable with him getting another start.

Let us all congratulate the Boston Red Sox for becoming the first World Champions in the history of sports to NOT make the postseason! Thats not easy to do!

by nyyrocks29 on Oct 2, 2011 8:37 PM EDT reply actions  

Cabrera's ability to hit basically whatever he wanted today also hurt us

That guy was starting to look like Vlad in his prime, with some of the tough pitches he hit.

by waw on Oct 2, 2011 8:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

Cabrera's a beast

Reminds me more of Manny than Vlad because Cabrera actually takes some pitches. Manny had a pretty good eye and the ability to hit a pitch that is closer to the dirt than the strike zone.

Let us all congratulate the Boston Red Sox for becoming the first World Champions in the history of sports to NOT make the postseason! Thats not easy to do!

by nyyrocks29 on Oct 2, 2011 9:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

Posada's been shutting me up.

But lets win tomorrow.

Residing on the BEast coast.

by DCyanks21 on Oct 2, 2011 8:45 PM EDT reply actions  

Nah lets lose so we can have AJ pitching to save our season!!!!

Let us all congratulate the Boston Red Sox for becoming the first World Champions in the history of sports to NOT make the postseason! Thats not easy to do!

by nyyrocks29 on Oct 2, 2011 8:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

Redemption

Would be spelled “A-l-l-a-n”

by bango31 on Oct 2, 2011 8:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

NO.

Residing on the BEast coast.

by DCyanks21 on Oct 2, 2011 9:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

Legitimate possibility though

Personally I think that would be a fascinating story. Though I don’t actually want them to lose tomorrow. I’d rather have AJ pitching with a chance to propel the Yankees into the ALCS.

Let us all congratulate the Boston Red Sox for becoming the first World Champions in the history of sports to NOT make the postseason! Thats not easy to do!

by nyyrocks29 on Oct 2, 2011 9:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

YES.

Residing on the BEast coast.

by DCyanks21 on Oct 2, 2011 9:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

And its over in Philly

Maestro Lee has his 3 runs already.

by pam s on Oct 2, 2011 9:07 PM EDT reply actions  

Sure does...

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by MattF15 on Oct 2, 2011 9:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

Time to write about my experience. I will give a little preview. Despite the result, I had quite the experience.

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by Brandon C. on Oct 2, 2011 10:21 PM EDT reply actions  

Yes.

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by Brandon C. on Oct 2, 2011 10:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

You're being blamed for the loss, I hope you know this!

And I also really hope you did not participate in the dispicable booing of A-Rod in the eighth inning. Though I doubt you’d go that low…

Let us all congratulate the Boston Red Sox for becoming the first World Champions in the history of sports to NOT make the postseason! Thats not easy to do!

by nyyrocks29 on Oct 2, 2011 10:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

I will talk about that in the post I am currently writing.

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by Brandon C. on Oct 2, 2011 10:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

I would say the game was lost in the Top of the 6th & the bottom of the 7th

Freddy got through the 3-4-5 hitters in the 4th, and I recall posting that he shouldn’t see those hitters again. Then the 6th comes along. Co-So-Ro-Mo are essentially fully rested, and it’s a close game that is a must win given tomorrow. A-Jax is up, then Ordonez, who clearly has Garcia’s number. SOMEONE should have been warming to start the inning. The Jeter error didn’t help, but Garcia should have been pulled after A-Jax either way. 2-0 becomes 4-0.

The crap that happened in the bottom of the 7th was unbelievable. It’s 4-0. Swisher walks, Posada singles. There’s a RHP on the mound, and if the Yankees get the lead we shouldn’t expect to see those batters again. WHY don’t you sub Nunez & Dickerson in that situation, then go after Avila & Benoit on the bases? And WHY do you put in Chavez, who 1) is a worse hitter than Gardner & 2) takes away our best defender? I would agree that in that situation, if you’re going to PH use Montero or Jones, not Chavez.

by PortlandYankee on Oct 2, 2011 10:27 PM EDT reply actions   1 recs

Didn't you hear? Jones was in as a defensive replacement

So, he must be a defensive whiz, right? I mean, otherwise I’m sure Joe would have at least PH with Jones, so as not to burn two bench players in one AB?

by waw on Oct 2, 2011 10:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

I agree, Joe manages like he is saving the pitchers for something special

Why not use them? They have the winter to rest

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by nyyrules on Oct 2, 2011 10:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

I am burning over the dancing fool's comment

http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/news;_ylt=AvQpRawbyMvf8o.kpxHB8M4RvLYF?slug=ycn-10130795

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by nyyrules on Oct 2, 2011 10:33 PM EDT reply actions  

Valverde said afterward that he was "just kidding"

And by afterward, I mean almost immediately; not after there was backlash.

As a Tiger fan, I’ve always had mixed feelings about Valverde. I did’t like the dancing initially, but it grows on you a bit. He’s a character and it’s nice to have those guys around. I’m sure most fans get sick of the stock answers that players give during interviews. Valverde was probably feeling confident after the win yesterday and he doesn’t have that sports-filter that inserts the automatic quote, “It obviously feels great to win a game in New York. Now, we still have to think one game at a time…blah blah blah” At least he gives you something to talk about.

On the flip side, I can see that being a rally point for the Yanks. The players will probably be as pissed as you are and that’s probably not good for the Tigers.

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by momotigers on Oct 3, 2011 10:22 AM EDT up reply actions  

I absolutely loathe Tony LaRussa

But need the Phillies to be taken out. C’mon redbirds!

by RicketyCricket on Oct 2, 2011 10:46 PM EDT reply actions  

Victorino lol

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by MattF15 on Oct 2, 2011 10:46 PM EDT reply actions  

I am loving Clifton Phifer being thrown out

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by nyyrules on Oct 2, 2011 10:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

976 words into my post….

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by Brandon C. on Oct 2, 2011 10:54 PM EDT reply actions  

975 that I won't read!

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by MattF15 on Oct 2, 2011 10:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'll read the first word.

So don’t waste it on a ‘The’, or ‘I’, Barn.

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by MattF15 on Oct 2, 2011 10:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

It’s “tonight.”

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by Brandon C. on Oct 2, 2011 11:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

Quit censoring me.

People have used the word ‘retard’ on here before and I haven’t seen those comments deleted.

by Briceratops on Oct 2, 2011 10:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

Just make sure the question is in the answer OR ELSE YOUR LEGITIMATE COMMENT WILL BE DELETED

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by MattF15 on Oct 2, 2011 10:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

Ask any mods you want, any time I see that word I will warn. It’s offensive.

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by Brandon C. on Oct 2, 2011 11:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

True story.

Midori yourself, douchebag.

by noonoo on Oct 2, 2011 11:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

To which part?

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by Brandon C. on Oct 2, 2011 11:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

Wow, really?

Midori yourself, douchebag.

by noonoo on Oct 2, 2011 10:55 PM EDT reply actions  

Posted.

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by Brandon C. on Oct 2, 2011 11:06 PM EDT reply actions  

x

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by MattF15 on Oct 2, 2011 11:06 PM EDT reply actions  

I love his reaction. “I just hit the wall?!?!?”

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by Brandon C. on Oct 2, 2011 11:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

At least Rowand made the play…

by RicketyCricket on Oct 2, 2011 11:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

Love it! World Series locks

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by nyyrules on Oct 3, 2011 6:35 AM EDT up reply actions  

Time to write another post! You folks are so lucky!

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by Brandon C. on Oct 2, 2011 11:13 PM EDT reply actions  

Great write up, felt like I was there with you

I wish desperately that I lived close enough to experience the game from inside The Stadium with. The TBS staff has been insufferable…

by RicketyCricket on Oct 2, 2011 11:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

I actually liked the staff in the first game. Maybe they got worse? Thanks for the compliment, too.

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by Brandon C. on Oct 2, 2011 11:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

I enjoy the play by play of Brian Anderson

But today Darling and Smoltz seemed more interested in referencing and reliving their own playing days than commenting on the action on the field. And when their focus shifted to the field, Darling spewed irrelevant factoids he gathered on the 3 days this year he watched the Yankees when the mets had an off day. Just bitter about the result of the game i suppose, but TBS made me yearn for Michael Kay- that shouldn’t happen haha.

by RicketyCricket on Oct 2, 2011 11:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

Smoltz worked today? Uhoh.

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by Brandon C. on Oct 2, 2011 11:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

*with the rest of you guys

by RicketyCricket on Oct 2, 2011 11:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

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