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New York Yankees News - October 12, 2011

While the news surrounding the New York Yankees is a bit slow these days, I'd like to throw in my two cents on the starting rotation situation heading into 2012. Some of my assorted thoughts are bulleted below. 

  •  CC Sabathia and his opt-out clause - I, like many other people, believe Sabathia will be back in pinstripes next season. When Frankie and I had the opportunity to speak with CC back in July, he bluntly stated that he loves everything about playing with the Yankees and he wishes to continue his career in New York. After all, he did just finish building a mansion in New Jersey. Everyone knows that it will likely backfire on the Yankees if CC opts out and demands more money and a contract extension. But let's be honest, Sabathia is a necessity for New York at this point and they' will pay him. 
  • Potential starters already with New York - Assuming that Sabathia is back, there are four spots to be filled. Whether or not you like it, A.J. Burnett will be a starting pitcher when 2012 comes around. He's due $16.5 million and there's no chance he'll be released before then. Despite the fact that he's been wildly inconsistent, he's eaten up 584.0 innings during the past three seasons and has yet to suffer any serious injury. Ivan Nova has done more than his fair share to put himself into the starting pitching rotation for the upcoming season, so that's another spot taken. Phil Hughes had an utterly disappointing 2011 campaign, experiencing dead arm to begin the season and never really regaining any of the stuff he had in 2010. His velocity began to touch mid-90s late in the season, but his pitch selection simplified tremendously. He'll be called upon to prove his worth come April. 

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  • Killer B's - Not much to touch on here. Dellin Betances and Manny Banuelos, the top two pitching prospects in the Yankees' minor league system, will need a full year at AAA Scranton Wilkes-Barre to focus on location, pitch selection and velocity. These guys should not be rushed. 
  • (a) The free agent market  - Okay, so the 2012 free agent market appears to be a bit thin. For whatever reason, C.J. Wilson appears to be the crown jewel despite only being a full-fledged starting pitcher for two years now. The Texas Rangers will certainly be high bidders in an effort to retain their homegrown talent and it likely won't be worth throwing an enormous wad of cash at him. Yu Darvish, the 25-year-old Japanese star, has posted consistently flawless numbers with the Nippon Ham Fighters over in the Japan Pacific League. How will his talents translate in America and how quickly will he be able to adapt to an entirely different baseball environment? Would he be worth a posting price as well as a steep contract?
  • (b) The free agent market - While Wilson and Darvish are the dominant names, there are a few that could fly below the radar. It'll be interesting to see if Mark Buehrle ends up in Chicago again or signs elsewhere as well as what type of contract he'll receive. He's 33-years-old and remained effective last season. For the right price, he might be a viable option. Another player that could get somewhat significant attention is Edwin Jackson, seeing as he'll only be 29 next season and is productive enough to be a #4 or #5 starter (other teams will value him higher, however). Guys that could provide low risk, high reward are Chien-Ming Wang and Brandon Webb. Perhaps Freddy Garcia can be signed for another year to an incentive-laden contract? 
I'll have a post up early this afternoon about taking a back seat to a spending spree this offseason. 

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I would love to see Wang at spring training.

Obviously he’s not the pitcher he used to be, but it’s worth a shot if he’s affordable.

by jimitre on Oct 12, 2011 8:04 AM EDT via mobile reply actions  

I wouldn't.

After all the money the Nationals put into Wang to watch him recover from injury, I’d hate to see him sign anywhere else before putting up some numbers for that team.

by mrob on Oct 12, 2011 8:29 AM EDT up reply actions  

Wang didn't get paid very much with the Nationals.

I think it was $3 million over two years and all the performance incentives never kicked in because he was injured.

Smart of the Nationals really. They knew he was damaged goods.

The question is how convinced the Yankees would be that he’s willing to return to the work ethic.

Performance is always a question, but if he has the work ethic – the desire to play again – the Yankees would probably be willing to take a look.

I hope things turn out alright for him this coming season – wherever he goes.

by Rickart on Oct 12, 2011 11:12 AM EDT up reply actions  

In some sense, Wang deserved to cash in while he was with the Yankees - he was that good.

As often happens – life intervened.

And feelings of entitlement are simply a form of weakness – unworthy of real competitor.

If he feels sorry for himself, baseball teams are best advised to avoid him.

If he feels he’s still got something to prove, baseball teams are best advised to hold the door open.

by Rickart on Oct 12, 2011 11:16 AM EDT up reply actions  

Agreed that desire is a sine qi

Usqueadbaugham! Anam muck an dhoul ! Did ye drink me doornail?

by Q-TDSK on Oct 12, 2011 12:34 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Damn phone.

What I meant to say was that I agree that desire is necessary, but I don’t think it’s enough for teams to take a chance. There are still questions about the guy, and there are probably only a few teams that could afford to make that gamble.

Usqueadbaugham! Anam muck an dhoul ! Did ye drink me doornail?

by Q-TDSK on Oct 12, 2011 12:38 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

I would love to see Wang at spring training.

I bet you would.

"Unpleasant Internet Dude"

by david d on Oct 12, 2011 10:29 AM EDT up reply actions  

I'll show you mine

Last night, a comedian died in New York. Somebody knows why. Somebody knows

by Rorschach44 on Oct 12, 2011 4:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

Stay away from out people
he Angels have D’Backs exec Jerry Dipoto and Yankees scouting director Damon Oppenheimer on their list of GM candidates

by jetanumba2 on Oct 12, 2011 8:12 AM EDT reply actions  

One FA starter

Wilson or Darvish (both would be nice but….)

Keep CC at a reasonable cost

CC
AJ
Nova
Hughes
FA addition

Garcia as depth, long man
Noesi as depth, long man

Works for me.

Bring lawyers, guns and money to get me out of this one! Stand in the Fire.

by MSP Giant on Oct 12, 2011 9:19 AM EDT reply actions  

CC

He won’t last 4 more years, never mind an extension to 6 years. Too fat, overused, and less effective as he gained weight down the stretch. Let someone else tie up long range money on him. The Yanks are already crippled with AJ, ARod, Tex, Feliciano, etc.

by Bob E on Oct 12, 2011 9:47 AM EDT reply actions  

So what does your crystal ball say next?

by lololol on Oct 12, 2011 9:55 AM EDT up reply actions  

that makes sense.

Last night, a comedian died in New York. Somebody knows why. Somebody knows

by Rorschach44 on Oct 12, 2011 4:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

I didn’t know the 1 year and $4MM left on Feliciano’s contract was crippling. A-Rod and Tex are still productive players.

There’s really no debating A.J.

Contributing writer for Pinstripe Alley.

by Frank Campagnola on Oct 12, 2011 6:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

AJ still has years left to make something of that contract

Let us all congratulate the Boston Red Sox for becoming the first World Champions in the history of sports to NOT make the postseason! Thats not easy to do!

by nyyrocks29 on Oct 12, 2011 8:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

Fire Girardi?

Saying that on here is a cliché at this point, but our lineup and rotation would both be more effective with better management, and I don’t think Joe’s going to suddenly turn the corner and be that guy.

by Grib on Oct 12, 2011 10:52 AM EDT via iPhone app reply actions  

off topic

but lolworthy still:
http://aol.sportingnews.com/mlb/story/2011-10-12/report-red-sox-players-tuned-out-francona-grew-soft

The artful muppet formerly known as KrmtDfrog.
Please read my sardonic wit and over-blown sense of self over at headkicklegend.com

by Cory Braiterman on Oct 12, 2011 11:01 AM EDT reply actions  

wow

the Ellsbury thing seemed trivial and subjective, and the A-Gonz comment was harmless. Not sure how true the John Henry Party Boat incident was, but that was pretty hilarious. Otherwise, I’d agree with the Globe on the other points.

Hank should treat the Yankees to a party on his private jet or something… :)

by yuanthelottery on Oct 12, 2011 12:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

Gonzo's

quote about getaway day night games is interesting. He’s gotta realize that’s a price he pays for now playing for a big market team. The opponents don’t want to schedule his team for day games. I’m sure he didn’t have to deal with that while playing for the Padres.

"I don't want one of those guys who'll drive in two but let in three every game." Casey Stengel

by tnredneckyankeesfan on Oct 12, 2011 2:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

LoL
One example: The club’s top three starting pitchers, Josh Beckett, Jon Lester, John Lackey, regularly drank beer, ate fried chicken and played video games in the clubhouse during games they weren’t pitching. Another starter, Clay Buchholz, participated at times, too, according to The Globe.

Hahahahaha!

"WHO WOULD LEAD?! THE CLOWN?!"

by I'mGivingYouARaise on Oct 12, 2011 2:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

You'd think that increase clubhouse unity

I want me some beer and Fried chicken while playing video games….

by lololol on Oct 12, 2011 2:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm a proponent of this
Perhaps Freddy Garcia can be signed for another year to an incentive-laden contract

He proved this year that he can be useful in the AL East. I’d rather they bring him back for the back end of the rotation rather than take a chance on someone else. Granted, it’d be for the back end of the rotation so the impact of someone else coming in and failing wouldn’t be that severe, but still, I’d prefer to see Garcia.

by bango31 on Oct 12, 2011 1:34 PM EDT reply actions  

I agree

Find a stopgap somewhere for next season, and then hand the ball to one of the ’spects in 2013.

by pastor2b on Oct 12, 2011 3:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

and this

"Unpleasant Internet Dude"

by david d on Oct 13, 2011 9:36 AM EDT up reply actions  

hell no.

Last night, a comedian died in New York. Somebody knows why. Somebody knows

by Rorschach44 on Oct 12, 2011 4:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

Even as a fifth starter?

Why take a chance on someone unproven when there’s a perfectly reasonable option that they’ve seen pitch in the AL East available?

by bango31 on Oct 13, 2011 12:00 AM EDT up reply actions  

cuz Freddie was dodging bullets all season

Last night, a comedian died in New York. Somebody knows why. Somebody knows

by Rorschach44 on Oct 13, 2011 9:00 AM EDT up reply actions  

This is what I would do

"Unpleasant Internet Dude"

by david d on Oct 13, 2011 9:36 AM EDT up reply actions  

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