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Breaking News: Theo Epstein on Verge of Leaving Red Sox for Cubs

Theo Epstein, GM of the two Red Sox World Series-winning teams of the last decade, is close to leaving the club for a job with the Chicago Cubs, according to Steve Buckley of the Boston Herald.

Epstein signed players like John Lackey, Carl Crawford, and J.D. Drew, who didn't work out, but to his credit he also signed bargain deals like Alfredo Aceves (for a recent example) -

Two baseball sources have confirmed that Theo Epstein is on the cusp of leaving his job as general manager of the Red Sox to accept a position with the Chicago Cubs that is believed to include powers greater than he has in Boston, with an announcement expected to be made "within the next 24 to 48 hours."

But it's not over -

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The hangup in the negotiations has been twofold. One of them is that Red Sox ownership was still hoping to have Epstein remain with the team. The other is compensation: If Epstein is to leave Boston, said one source with knowledge of the negotiations, the Red Sox are going to want "something real."

If Epstein does leave, the Red Sox will need to hire a new GM and a new manager. Should be an eventful offseason, to say the least.

- In unrelated, but fantastic news, Bryan Stow has been released from the hospital.

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Wow.

I don’t know if this is a good thing or a bad thing.

I doubt a new GM will be able to keep them as consistently competitive as Theo did. However, a new GM will likely want to make a big splash to make his imprint on the team and I don’t want that splash to screw up the Yankees plans in the offseason whether that be Darvish or Wilaon or someone else.

America doesn't run on Dunkin; it runs on Varitek.

MarShon Brooks has the dreaded.

by Maxyboy on Oct 11, 2011 7:30 PM EDT reply actions  

With their large market budget, staying competitive shouldn’t be an issue. They’ll most likely have to first sort out who they hire as GM and manager before making any big signings. That may or may not leave them a step behind the rest of league in negotiations with free agents. Pure speculation. Their top target players may have already signed by then and that leaves the Red Sox having to overpay to attract second/third tier free agents.

by Scooby Snacks on Oct 11, 2011 7:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think the 'big splash' isn't possible.

We’ve got like $10M in payroll coming off the books after accounting for Arb raises and pay increases to Gonzo, Crawford etc. The new GM would have to find a way to ship off contract in order to make any big splashes. I think the biggest splash they can make room for is say, CJ Wilson, that’s about it really.

"We are not normal, We are Legends. People will tell their kids about us." - Deon Butler before Ohio State Game 2008.

by Rogue Nine on Oct 11, 2011 8:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

JD Drew was not one of Epstein's bad signings.

Drew was actually one of the best outfielders in all of baseball from 2008-2010. First year and last year didn’t work out that well though but overall it was a solid signing.

by Briceratops on Oct 11, 2011 7:31 PM EDT reply actions  

All-Star game MVP in Yankee Stadium

in 2008. that was weird

I'd like to thank the good Lord for making me a Yankee fan.

by NJsandman on Oct 11, 2011 7:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

I hope he leaves

and it would be interesting in what the Cubs will become.

by Scooby Snacks on Oct 11, 2011 7:44 PM EDT reply actions  

lol

Last night, a comedian died in New York. Somebody knows why. Somebody knows

by Rorschach44 on Oct 11, 2011 7:44 PM EDT reply actions  

Heh.

Crouching moron, hidden smarta**
Optimism, pessimism, F*CK THAT; we're gonna make it happen. As God as my bloody witness, I'm hell-bent on making it work.
Masai Ujiri, Brian Cashman: Magnificent Bastards

by Kevin L on Oct 11, 2011 7:50 PM EDT reply actions  

Bye Bye Theo

To me he always looked like a D-Bag, but if he gets the Cubs to the Series, then I will want a lock of his hair for good luck. The cloud over the Cubs is even darker than the one that was over the Red Sux.

by upstateNYYFan1984 on Oct 11, 2011 7:54 PM EDT reply actions  

lol

Let us all congratulate the Boston Red Sox for becoming the first World Champions in the history of sports to NOT make the postseason! Thats not easy to do!

by nyyrocks29 on Oct 11, 2011 8:10 PM EDT reply actions  

In not so fantastic news, McCarver is announcing tonight

Usqueadbaugham! Anam muck an dhoul ! Did ye drink me doornail?

by Q-TDSK on Oct 11, 2011 8:12 PM EDT via mobile reply actions  

Yea it sucks

I actually really like Terry Francona as an announcer. He’s great for analysis and I enjoy listening to him. He’s not annoying.

As unlikely as this is to happen, I’d kind of like to see him join the YES team. As a manager (and one of the managers in the league I respect the most), he knows quite a lot I’m sure and also it would be fun to listen to somebody who has been on the other side of the rivalry for so long. Adds a different perspective to it.

Of course, all that means nothing because he’ll probably get another managing job.

Let us all congratulate the Boston Red Sox for becoming the first World Champions in the history of sports to NOT make the postseason! Thats not easy to do!

by nyyrocks29 on Oct 11, 2011 8:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah, he’ll do well in the booth. But he still wants to manage and should.

by Scooby Snacks on Oct 11, 2011 8:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

x

"WHO WOULD LEAD?! THE CLOWN?!"

by I'mGivingYouARaise on Oct 11, 2011 8:20 PM EDT reply actions  

I would say their in all out panic mode

but I think all of Red Sox Providence is too busy blaming Epstein and Francona for the collapse. Everyone will be happy, which is unfortunate. He is a good GM, who brought the team their first WS championship in almost 90 years and they chase him out of town because Carl Crawford missed one catch. If the FO is too stupid to reinforce the fact that he is part of their future and are sitting on their hands while he finds a new job then either the organization as a whole wears a big pink hat or something was going on behind the scenes (and that seems a little too convenient)

by jetanumba2 on Oct 11, 2011 8:48 PM EDT reply actions  

If he wants to leave he wants to leave.

This isn’t him being forced out of town by a mob of townsfolk with pitchforks. My general impression when it comes to managers and GMs and moving on is that it’s decently civilized and the team with the contract won’t give up too much of a fuss regardless of the situation if the guy wants to leave.

"We are not normal, We are Legends. People will tell their kids about us." - Deon Butler before Ohio State Game 2008.

by Rogue Nine on Oct 11, 2011 8:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

If Epstein is to leave Boston, said one source with knowledge of the negotiations, the Red Sox are going to want “something real.”

What does that mean? the Cubs will pay the Sox? or Theo will be traded for Alfonso Soriano, Carlos Zambrano and a player to be named? (I like the second option)

by bloppy_ploppy on Oct 11, 2011 9:11 PM EDT reply actions  

Surprising

I didn’t think both the manager and GM would leave within a few weeks of each other. Hopefully a much lesser person takes his spot.

by Travis G on Oct 11, 2011 10:33 PM EDT reply actions  

That news would make my day

He could trade for Vernon Wells again!

"Son, Nobody is half as good as Mickey Mantle"

by ntrokel on Oct 11, 2011 10:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

Where do i apply?

Experience:
I saw the moneyball Trailer
I have a good eye test

by lololol on Oct 11, 2011 11:44 PM EDT reply actions  

I see the mistake you made

This is an opening with the RED Sox not the WHITE Sox. In Bahstahn you need at least a little experience.

"Son, Nobody is half as good as Mickey Mantle"

by ntrokel on Oct 11, 2011 11:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

I once drafted a really good fantasy team and my team in MLB the show when i was manager won 162 games and a WS. Does that count?

by lololol on Oct 11, 2011 11:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

One of those one team leagues huh?

Ted Williams' famous Red Sox farewell speech: "I consider myself the unluckiest man on the face of the Earth."

by The Yankees on Oct 12, 2011 12:01 AM EDT up reply actions  

Swear it wasn’t rigged

by lololol on Oct 12, 2011 12:02 AM EDT up reply actions  

Honest, mister!

"Son, Nobody is half as good as Mickey Mantle"

by ntrokel on Oct 12, 2011 12:04 AM EDT up reply actions  

I guess you're right. Pretty tough though to find folks who have a proven track record of

blowing a 9 game lead in 4 weeks. Maybe Minaya is the guy?

Ted Williams' famous Red Sox farewell speech: "I consider myself the unluckiest man on the face of the Earth."

by The Yankees on Oct 11, 2011 11:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

Do the Cubs hate the Yankees now?

Theo Epstein?
*The guy who gave us “low risk, high return” 2yrs ago by netting the Sox John Smoltz, Brad Penny, Takashi Saito and Rocco Baldelli for the Sox?
*The guy who topped that by spending $000,000,000s on Lackey and Crawford and making that daring move for Bedard?

And now the Cubs want to deny the Yankees of Theo??

I would NOT be happy with the Cubs!!

Ted Williams' famous Red Sox farewell speech: "I consider myself the unluckiest man on the face of the Earth."

by The Yankees on Oct 11, 2011 11:49 PM EDT reply actions  

Well, they'll need a replacement

Dave Littlefield!

Or maybe the Raiders’ old offensive coordinator that came from running a B&B a few years ago. He’d be great.

Joe Nobody: The slugging speedster the Giants need, at an irrationally low price.

"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased

"That one's on me."- Madison Bumgarner

by natteringnabob on Oct 12, 2011 5:10 PM EDT reply actions  

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