LCS Open Thread
by Travis G on Oct 10, 2011 4:00 PM EDT
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PrintDiscuss the Tigers-Rangers (4:20 p.m. on FOX) and Cardinals-Brewers (8 p.m. on TBS) here.
ALCS Game 2 -
Vs.
And then NLCS Game 2 -
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Baseball season is over for me
I am not a baseball fan. I am a Yankee fan.
I can appreciate those who feel differently. I feel that way about the NFL and college basketball. But not baseball.
I wouldn't mind seeing the Cardinals win, they're my second team.
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by JumpinJackFlash on Oct 10, 2011 5:28 PM EDT up reply actions
Ha!
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They probably stopped paying attention when the Red Sox got eliminated
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Thinking of possible available pitchers in trades this off-season
Any of these interest you?
Wandy Rodriguez
Brandon McCarthy
Derek Lowe
Ricky Nolasco
Chris Volstad
Mike Pelfrey
Francisco Liriano
Less likely
John Danks
Gavin Floyd
Pure speculation, of course.
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Nolasco, thought I’d still be hesitant
Liriano, who we’re always associated with when it comes to trade rumors
Floyd, maybe
in order
yes
maybe
hell no
no
no
are you out of your fucking mind? no
probably not
maybe
maybe
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by Cory Braiterman on Oct 10, 2011 6:37 PM EDT up reply actions
The A's would be fools to trade Brandon McCarthy
He was one of the best pitchers in all of baseball this past season. I would be the happiest man alive if he ended up in New York.
He's also hilarious
Only reason I thought of him is last season of contract.
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why in the world
would you put mike pelfrey’s name up there. some kind of test?
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by Cory Braiterman on Oct 10, 2011 8:00 PM EDT up reply actions
I legitimately put random people that may be traded.
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if the mets namage to find some sucker
to take pelfrey off their hands, alderson is a demi-god.
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by Cory Braiterman on Oct 10, 2011 8:23 PM EDT up reply actions
ther pitching staff as a whole
outside of dickey, that is, has been some combination of mediocre to awful. the pen is terrible and their #3-5 pitchers gave them squat. pelfrey is no better than a 5 pitcher on a decent team and a 4 on a bad one.
that’s being generous in both cases, too.
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by Cory Braiterman on Oct 10, 2011 8:28 PM EDT up reply actions
well Jon Neise had a pretty good year
Pelfrey and Gee were basically league average and Capuano was a little over. If they have a healthy Santana their rotation is above average (not by much). They just don’t have that Ace™ to put them over
pelfrey gives you one thing
200 innings of mediocre pitching. he doesn’t strike people out, he has a lot of fly balls and in general is a waste of a uniform. he also hits a wall in the late innings and fucks up miserably at some point come inning 6 or 7.
please, take it from a mets fan, you do not want him pitching 15 games in yankees stadium. lemme put it another way – there are a loooooooot of mets fans out there who wouldn’t be upset if the mets just cut him. i don’t think it will happen due to another year of rebuilding and salary constraints, but you won’t see too many tears shed if it happens.
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by Cory Braiterman on Oct 10, 2011 8:44 PM EDT up reply actions
Pelfrey still has a lot of potential. If they cut him they’d be a bunch of dumb dumb people to me.
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as someone who's had the
fortune of watching him pitch the past two years, i very much look forward to the time he either gets his shit together in a hurry or gets the hell out of town
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by Cory Braiterman on Oct 10, 2011 8:47 PM EDT up reply actions
So you just let him go just like that?
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unless pelfrey magically turns into a carriage and soon
his pumpkin act has gotten very, very old. go look at some game threads on amazin ave when he goes to pitch. no one has any confidence in him, and he seems to either hit a physical wall in the 6th or 7th every single time or he’s got some terrible weak mental block that makes him screw up. i don’t buy into the psych aspects, so i think he simply just doesn’t have what it takes to be anything other than a #4 starter on a bad team as his ceiling.
go look at his numbers. they are not good at all and he’s in a pitchers park.
compare him to another mediocre NL east team’s starter, the marlins, and a guy also on your list, nolasco: nolasco has a full 1.5 batters per inning higher k/9 rate, a full walk/9 less and a much, much better xfip.
he’s not a complete waste of uniform, but you put him in this ballpark and he will vomit all over the place. if it weren’t for the money, i’d be happy to see him go.
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by Cory Braiterman on Oct 10, 2011 10:17 PM EDT up reply actions
Don’t think he has any potential?
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he would have to develop pitches that he doesn't have currently
and location he doesn’t have either. he’s had 4 full years of time. regression has caught up to him very time he seems to get anywhere. maybe he gets his shit together, but so far, no one’s enjoyed his body of work.
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by Cory Braiterman on Oct 10, 2011 10:59 PM EDT up reply actions
I do not want him on the Yankees
but Citifield is good for him. Also the innings and what Brandon said and he still has worth. Is he replaceable? probably, but they need to find someone to replace him first
Mike Pelfrey
I think he would be a good addition to the sta…..okay I cannot type this with a straight face
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by I'mGivingYouARaise on Oct 10, 2011 7:27 PM EDT up reply actions
The White Sox announced they’ll introduce new manager Robin Ventura tomorrow at an 11am central time press conference. ESPNChicago’s Doug Padilla reported today that Mark Parent will come aboard as Ventura’s bench coach and Joe McEwing will serve as the third base coach. Jeff Manto is ahead of Tim Laker in terms of hitting coach candidates, Padilla reports.
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A rival executive talked to ESPN’s Buster Olney on Red Sox GM Theo Epstein and the Cubs: “If he met with the Cubs, what it means is that if he gets the offer he wants, he’s gone [to Chicago].” Earlier today, however, SI’s Jon Heyman wrote that most baseball insiders “believe it’s more likely than not [Epstein will] remain in Boston, at least for now.”
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I actually would prefer him to stay.
I have a bad feeling if he signed up with Chicago he would trade for Crawford or something. Not that I think Carl is as bad of a player as he performed this year but I would prefer if the 130 million or so left on his contract stayed in Boston.
I want him gone because he's actually a pretty decent GM (not elite like some say he is)
and the whole process would hurt them a lot more than they think…though the new GM will probably start trying to build a farm system, which would be unfortunate. I guess I’m torn.
no idea, i just made it up
but i’d have to say Billy Beane, AA, Brian Cashman (maybe I’m biased) and maybe even Andrew Friedman (Rays GM) considering the amount of talent they’ve been able to draft (though that might fall on more of the development side). I’m just spitballing here, but I just don’t see Epstein as being as top of the line as some make him seem.
Mets interviewing Jim Riggleman for bench coach role.
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All of these via MLBTR, by the way
Brewers outfielder Ryan Braun believes that the club is more likely to land Jose Reyes in free agency than re-sign Prince Fielder, writes Mike Puma of the New York Post.
Braun assumes that Fielder will likely command upwards of $150MM this winter whereas Reyes can be had for around $120MM. The four-time All-Star was quick to admit that he’s a huge fan of Reyes.
“[Reyes] is dynamic, man — he is one of the most exciting players in the game,” the 27-year-old said. “He plays with a lot of energy and a lot of emotion and I enjoy watching him play. He’s one of my favorite players to watch. Whenever their games are on, I love watching him, man. He always plays the game the right way. He always plays hard. He runs everything out.”
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I wouldn't put it past the Brewers to try
He’d be a good pick up for them
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by I'mGivingYouARaise on Oct 10, 2011 7:28 PM EDT up reply actions
Wow
The feeling is that Padres skipper Bud Black has a real chance of becoming the Angels next GM. Black, who is good friends with Mike Scioscia, doesn’t have front office experience but has a pitching expertise that would make him valuable in that position
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why is him being friends with Mike Scioscia even part of the equation?
that’s the problem with the Angels organization and it will continue to be until the day the Manager stops trying to run the FO and the FO actually starts pushing back.
also this
The Tigers' Magglio Ordonez re-fractured his ankle Saturday I have to imagine that this might be it for him.
Notable 2012 free agents
(Possibly because they are on a rival team, possibly because they could fit for us, possibly because they are big name)
Jason Varitek
Michael Cuddyer
Prince Fielder
Casey Kotchman
Albert Pujols
Jose Reyes
Jimmy Rollins
Ramon Santiago
Marco Scutaro (6M team option)
Johnny Damon
Reed Johnson
Josh Willingham
Rick Ankiel
Carlos Beltran
David DeJesus
Andruw Jones
J.D. Drew
Xavier Nady
Magglio Ordonez
Jason Giambi
Vlad Guerrero
David Ortiz
Jason Kubel
Hideki Matsui
Jorge Posada
Jim Thome
Bedard
Buehrle
Colon
Garcia
Garland
Harden
Jackson
Maholm (9.75 M club option)
Oswalt (16M club option)
CC Sabathia (player option)
Javier Vazquez
Adam Wainwright (10 M vesting option)
Wakefield
Wang
Webb
Wilson
Young
Bell
Broxton
Capps
Papelbon
Rodriguez
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Also
Cain, Greinke, Hamles, Liriano, Marcum, McCarthy, Anibal and Jonathan Sanchez will all be FA in 2013.
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Hmm, gimme
Reed Johnson, David DeJesus, and Javy Vazquez. 28th Championship would be a lock.
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I might look in on Jackson if we need a plan B in the offseason
I’d give Colon another incentive laden deal to be the longman out of the pen. Maybe give Wang a one year incentive laden contract and take on Broxton as a reclamation project after his injured season (if he comes back healthy we’d have an indestructible pen: Broxton, Joba, Soriano, Robertson, Mo) though maybe our resources would be better spent looking for a better lefty option
jeez are the Rangers fans even watching the game?
Napoli grounds to short and everyone cheers like he just hit a go ahead home run? That’s worse than cheering for any high fly ball
Maybe they collectively lost track of how many outs there were.
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For the Darvish Baseball Courtroom, I have an update on who is doing what, but there are still positions available!
Debating for signing Darvish is Wraithpk
Debating against signing darvish ???
Jury Members:
Frank
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Email me for a position, just as Wraith and Bango did.
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Can I be a jury member?
Let us all congratulate the Boston Red Sox for becoming the first World Champions in the history of sports to NOT make the postseason! Thats not easy to do!
The Rangers fans are apparently quite fond of long fly ball outs
That’s the only conclusion I can reach after listening to them cheer.
Ogando wounds like a West African country
If you turned on CNN and heard about a coup in Ogando, you wouldn’t even think twice.
by long time listener on Oct 10, 2011 7:33 PM EDT reply actions
those clowns in Washington have done it again
What a bunch of clowns.
by long time listener on Oct 10, 2011 7:41 PM EDT up reply actions
or trade for him
I have several unrealistic proposals I can dust off.
by long time listener on Oct 10, 2011 7:51 PM EDT up reply actions
That's one way of trying to neutralize Cruz, I suppose.
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It just makes us look better losing to a team that got to the World Series.
Plus if Texas wins the World Series is C.J. Wilson going to leave? Probably not.
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I don’t.
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With whom
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I don’t know how to react!
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It didn’t work!
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Should I try smiling?
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Is that seriously your argument?
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Fantastic argument. Wonderfully done.
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You're annoying when you do this.
Whenever someone says something to kid around you take it to the next level. Pet peeve of mine.
If you want a real argument it’s quite obvious. We need starting pitching help. The best on the market are Darvish and Wilson. We really don’t have a solid #2 starter, and after seeing Hughes go from solid to blown out arm I can’t be to quick to say Nova is going to be a solid #2.
I think CC is going to stay, either not opting out or us paying him a monster contract. But after that we have Nova, Hughes, Burnett, ?
No one knows. So not caring about C.J. or his situation isn’t the best thing for the Yankees.
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It’s sort of sad when people just give up on an argument with no reason with a silly comment.
Nova didn’t go through the same terrible program Hughes did. Wilson would get a Burnett-like deal, when there are going to be much better pitchers available in 2013, and the Yankees can easily just go with a competition for the fifth starter spot.
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You're too serious.
Nova’s arm tightened to end the ALDS.
Relying on the young arms could work, but it could also turn out like Hughes.
I don’t like the Hughes/Burnett part of the rotation. I personally think both of those guys are 5 starters right now. Only Hughes can change that value, but as of now we have an ace a 3 and two 5’s. Hughes may be a 4.
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Comparing Nova's flexor strain to Hughes' dead arm is a bit of a reach
Also, Hughes had a bad second half in 2010, while Nova got better as the year went on.
I'm not saying the same will happen.
Just saying relying on young arms is tough.
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so can relying on old arms
it has nothing to do with health or talent, it has everything to do with knowing what you’re going to get, regardless of how much better a younger pitcher might end up being. We saw that all year here
The Yankees can just sign some guys to minors deals/and/or use the youngsters. They have options other than spending a ton on a player that isn’t even the best.
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Bartolo
People seem to forget how many good innings he gave us and how cheap he can probably be picked up
He may not have been good down the stretch, but he was great the first half and if he doesn’t pitch winter ball he’ll probably last a bit longer
by NYYankeeDude on Oct 10, 2011 10:38 PM EDT up reply actions
He’s not going to be a starter next season, his arm can’t handle it.
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i'd love him as the longman
then if someone goes down for a little while we have someone to fill in immediately
I’d only sign him to a MILB deal again.
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Maybe. But he is better than the mop brigade Joe likes to trot out
by NYYankeeDude on Oct 10, 2011 11:43 PM EDT up reply actions
I don't have quite as low an opinion on Hughes and AJ as you do
I think Hughes will bounce back and so long as AJ keeps working on the improved mechanics that he and Rothschild worked on in September, I think he could have a solid season. He was solid for almost all of 2011 (except for August), and his peripherals were good aside from the inflated HR rate which should regress.
I do think they need another starter though. And Darvish is the option with the highest upside, so he’s the guy I want.
Let us all congratulate the Boston Red Sox for becoming the first World Champions in the history of sports to NOT make the postseason! Thats not easy to do!
Sarcasm?
I legitimately can’t tell lol.
Let us all congratulate the Boston Red Sox for becoming the first World Champions in the history of sports to NOT make the postseason! Thats not easy to do!
oh ok lol
Well, ESPN says that he was awful the entire season because his record is .500, so it must be true!
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dear god!
this who .500 thing is absolutely stupid. “he’s the only Yankee starter with a W/L record under .500” HE MUST BE TERRIBLE
He was slightly average.
He scares me every time he goes out on the mound though.
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Thats why I love watching him pitch!
Let us all congratulate the Boston Red Sox for becoming the first World Champions in the history of sports to NOT make the postseason! Thats not easy to do!
My Dad likes him.
But that’s because he reminds him of an 80’s rock artist.
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Actually it's the tattoos and attitude.
I really have no idea why he likes him. haha. It’s funny actually because he knows the game and knows he’s not the best pitcher.
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His tattoos are sick
And as for the attitude, it seems like AJ’s a pretty cool guy as well.
But ESPN says that he’s a jerk who can’t get along with his manager, so I must be wrong!
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His tattoos are sick
LOL no.
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Cricket blog?
He'd be my second choice if they didn't get Darvish
I don’t love the idea, but if the alternative is shopping Jesus Montero for a starter then I certainly would prefer Wilson.
Let us all congratulate the Boston Red Sox for becoming the first World Champions in the history of sports to NOT make the postseason! Thats not easy to do!
Brandon brought up a good point about the 2013 class of pitchers.
But I doubt we make the playoffs without signing a quality pitcher this year.
2013 names that I like :
Cain (Though I don’t think he fits Yankees Stadium.)
Carmona
Danks
Floyd
Greinke
Hamels
Haren
Liriano
Marcum
McCarthy
Anibal Sanchez
Jonathan Sanchez
Ervin Santana
James Shields
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Some have options.
http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2011/04/2013-mlb-free-agents.html
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Is this after 2012 or after 2013?
And on that particular list, Greinke interests me more than Haren does. But the likelihood that Cashman decides to go after Greinke I think is slim.
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We made the playoffs with Colon and Garcia.
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Well
With the Yankees lineup they are bound to out score teams quite often. I’m sure the Yankees can find some guys to throw some innings if needed. I bet the trade deadline will be huge this year, considering all the pitchers listed above. You don’t just overpay, you make smart decisions and adapt.
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Brandon McCarthy would be a nice addition.
or Marcum.
I’d take two of those guys over a Haren or Greinke.
But I’d wouldn’t be mad with one of those guys. haha.
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The class is bound to give the Yankees at least one more starter.
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I just hope we don't screw ourselves going after a big name
they wait and we lose out on the small name guys who are close to being good as the hyped guys.
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what happened to CC, Nova, Hughes, AJ, Noesi/Warren/Phelps/one random guy they can get to work? its not like we’re stuck in the same situation we were this season
Yep
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actually, come to think of it, this is the same situation we were in last offseason. The only reason we needed to rely on too Veterans was because Hughes’ arm fell off and Nova was an unknown
Well CC was hungry.
Hughes’ arm is the only thing available at the time.
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And that was wonderful
But I don’t see them getting that lucky with two old veterans again, which is why I think it’d be smarter to go after someone younger who still has great years ahead of them.
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Be careful, you included some option guys.
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What about Hamels?
Wouldn’t mind that dweeb coming to pitch here. He already pitches in a bandbox.
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Fine by me
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and everyone was freaking out about Cliff Lee being around too long, now its ok for a pitcher who’s not as good?
And lets see your argument.
Because you have yet to show yours after wanting this “debate”.
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Already made it. To add to it, I don’t see the humungous need to sign two starters (one being CC) at any cost. There are much better options, people just need to be patient.
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Do you seriously deserve to win after
bases loaded and no outs — and then coming up empty?
Wanted to see Valverde implode, oh well.
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Maybe he'll come back out for another shot at it.
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They are demeaned
no matter if they win. I’d give it back if I were them if it happens.
I'll agree the content is a little strange.
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My real point is I find it infuriating
when teams fail in those high percentage run situations. Like when Martin and Gardner (esp Martin) didn’t get the job done last game. As a fan I feel like “If you guys don’t want it then what the hell am I sitting here with a heart monitor wanting it so much for you. Earn my loyalty!”
(Just by way of explaining strange content.)
Not too sure about that
and wish I were more sure about that.
Money can also numb
So “professional” isn’t really the answer cuz it can be just as much a disease as a cure. Ya never know. I don’t think it comes down to money in this case. It comes down to making it happen in the moment — and it is frustrating “watching” when it doesn’t.
Hey, i know that font...
more than I know Raul
or Jeter
Let us all congratulate the Boston Red Sox for becoming the first World Champions in the history of sports to NOT make the postseason! Thats not easy to do!
Oh, I see.
I find it more frustrating than infuriating, and I have a hard time believing it comes down to desire. With Martin, it’s more of a case of being frustrated that the Yankees have such a weak hitter as their regular catcher so that he’s guaranteed to appear in situations like that.
Usqueadbaugham! Anam muck an dhoul ! Did ye drink me doornail?
Francona is a terrific analyst.
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They found desire. That R. Perry who came in...
Was that Rick? I’m just reading the box score and it said R. Perry.
Should stick to politics.
aaaaaaaaaand good night
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by Cory Braiterman on Oct 10, 2011 8:45 PM EDT reply actions
Joe Buck doesn't even raise his voice for a walk-off grand slam
what a terrible announcer
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He’s been dealing with a voice disease or something I think. He’s not my favorite, but he should not be announcing, that’s on FOX.
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I guess that could be it too.
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Yeah, he had serious nerve damage at the beginning of the season
He couldn’t talk at all before the season started, apparently.
Usqueadbaugham! Anam muck an dhoul ! Did ye drink me doornail?
Only partially
After all, McCarver seems immune.
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by Q-TDSK on Oct 10, 2011 9:04 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Technically it's the first postseason walkoff grand slam
but everyone knows Robin Ventura hit one too
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Kim Jones is going to make an appearance?
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She’s just not my type!
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Cue the comments making jokes about what my type is.
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WM seeks soulmate
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by long time listener on Oct 10, 2011 9:35 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
thank you.
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NO
AWFUL
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Not streaking
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I get it
That’s your “you” time.
by long time listener on Oct 10, 2011 9:44 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
Don't forget sticklers for not including the question in the answer.
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Cricket blog?
she's a dinosaur all right
A bonergiving sexysaurus.
by long time listener on Oct 10, 2011 8:55 PM EDT up reply actions
Oh my
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I know this guy who does an excellent Kim Jones skit with Derek Jete.r
Only it’s way too inappropriate to repeat.
Residing on the BEast coast.
I think the Cardinals should go after John Marshall to hit behind John Jay next season
Usqueadbaugham! Anam muck an dhoul ! Did ye drink me doornail?
Ugh Too bad Tigers couldn't play this bad versus us
I think we match up better vs the rangers then the Tigers anyways.
Update on Darvis Court:
Debating to sign Darvish: Wraithpk
Debating to NOT sign Darvish: No one yet
Jurors:
Frank
Brandon
DCYanks 21
Bango31
Still need one more debater and one more juror.
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by Frank Campagnola on Oct 10, 2011 9:28 PM EDT reply actions
Most people want him.
Let us all congratulate the Boston Red Sox for becoming the first World Champions in the history of sports to NOT make the postseason! Thats not easy to do!
I saw that you were interested but said you’d give another person a chance. Would you want to be on the jury?
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by Frank Campagnola on Oct 10, 2011 9:37 PM EDT up reply actions
Sure why not?
Do I need to send you an email?
Let us all congratulate the Boston Red Sox for becoming the first World Champions in the history of sports to NOT make the postseason! Thats not easy to do!
I’ve had people send me emails but since I talked to you directly on here it’s fine.
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by Frank Campagnola on Oct 10, 2011 9:41 PM EDT up reply actions
I only did the email thing in case I didn’t see comments
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by Frank Campagnola on Oct 10, 2011 9:43 PM EDT up reply actions
I'd still need to send an email to make the jury decision though will I?
Or is that done on here?
Let us all congratulate the Boston Red Sox for becoming the first World Champions in the history of sports to NOT make the postseason! Thats not easy to do!
I’d email you the debates, then you’d email me your decision
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by Frank Campagnola on Oct 10, 2011 9:44 PM EDT up reply actions
OK- hope you have my right email
Because I’ve changed it about three times since I joined SBN- though I think the one in my account settings is the right one.
Let us all congratulate the Boston Red Sox for becoming the first World Champions in the history of sports to NOT make the postseason! Thats not easy to do!
Okay, then send me an email so I have the right one.
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by Frank Campagnola on Oct 10, 2011 9:47 PM EDT up reply actions
Sent
Let us all congratulate the Boston Red Sox for becoming the first World Champions in the history of sports to NOT make the postseason! Thats not easy to do!
Or would you?
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by Frank Campagnola on Oct 10, 2011 9:42 PM EDT up reply actions
Would you like to debate against it?
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by Frank Campagnola on Oct 10, 2011 9:41 PM EDT up reply actions
not really
i though about it, but i don’t think i really have the time. Though it might have been fun researching it
If you think you can do a good job, feel free.
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by Frank Campagnola on Oct 10, 2011 9:44 PM EDT up reply actions
Woudl you like to do the debate then? Especially since you have the research already?
Frankly I’m on the fence about it and I’d love to hear an informed voice.
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by Frank Campagnola on Oct 10, 2011 9:45 PM EDT up reply actions
You've done research?
The only argument I’ve seen from you has been ‘Japan doesn’t produce good pitchers’ and ’he’s too expensive’. Not exactly in depth stuff.
"Son, Nobody is half as good as Mickey Mantle"
See my questions about him below. These are all things I’d like to know about him
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by Frank Campagnola on Oct 10, 2011 9:52 PM EDT up reply actions
Show me where
I said Japan doesn’t produce good pitchers. Stop fuckin posting lies. I hate that shit.
"Unpleasant Internet Dude"
Fair nuff, you didn't argue that Japan produces inferior pitchers
I mixed up my anti-darvish people. Your argument has been that ‘hes too expensive for an unproven quality’ which is a decent argument, but hardly a stats or research based argument
"Son, Nobody is half as good as Mickey Mantle"
Most of my argument is about getting a proven starter and really isn’t that much AGAINST Darvish. What if he does fail? Where would that leave us having relied on a guy and then he sucks? If we get a solid 2 type, CJ or whoever, there’s a lot less risk and less probability of failure. If we did get Darvish and he sucked and we needed to go ahead and get another starter, it would be nearly impossible to pick someone up in a trade without really giving up literally the whole farm while getting raped in the deal. No thanks, give me a proven starter first and if they really feel the need to get Darvish, go ahead. I’ve stated this before…
"Unpleasant Internet Dude"
i know what my points would be
but I don’t know if i’ll have the time to look through stats and find info and then hope they actually back up my point and then i’ll actually have to write it! haha
Well, his stats over there are pretty nasty. That doesn’t necessarily mean success here, though.
Maybe look at scouting reports. How hard does he throw? What are his secondary pitches? Are those combinations of pitches successful in the majors?
What questions are there about him? How routined is he? Would he have to break that routine? How many innings does he have on his arm? Just because he’s 25 doesn’t meanhe doesn’t have a lot of mileage.
Also, he only pitched once a week in Japan. How will he adapt to pitching every fifth day?
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by Frank Campagnola on Oct 10, 2011 9:52 PM EDT up reply actions
the last question would have been my biggest focus
because i’m cautious about that with any Japanese pitcher. I don’t doubt that he’s good and that it will translate at least relatively well over here, but I worry about fatigue and injury and stamina. Also considering it would be a multiyear deal, so would he be healthy throughout the contract?
Do people realize
he’s already missed time in the past due to back problems?
"Unpleasant Internet Dude"
Plus he came back the next year
and pitched 200 innings with a 1.82 ERA
"Son, Nobody is half as good as Mickey Mantle"
He has the most honorable SHUUTO
Which is essentially a two seamer.
Plus its also worth noting that this year he’s pitched to an ERA of 1.49 in 223 innings with 261 strikeouts.
"Son, Nobody is half as good as Mickey Mantle"
Probably
He has a ton of pitches and varies speeds incredibly well- thats probably his biggest strength as a pitcher. And I’ve read that he’s thrown an eephus at times during his career in Japan (though very rarely).
Let us all congratulate the Boston Red Sox for becoming the first World Champions in the history of sports to NOT make the postseason! Thats not easy to do!
Perhaps, but there was this, too
On August 22, Darvish was taken off the active roster for the first time in his career due to injury. The Fighters classified it as “shoulder fatigue,” and the deactivation came after a career-worst start against the Fukuoka SoftBank Hawks, in which he went 8 innings, but gave up 6 earned runs on 10 hits in a losing effort.
"Unpleasant Internet Dude"
Since which he has pitched over 400 innings
With an ERA of 1.78 in 2010 and a 1.49 this year.
"Son, Nobody is half as good as Mickey Mantle"
Dead arm 2 years ago. Run!
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by Jedi Master A-Rod on Oct 10, 2011 10:16 PM EDT up reply actions
CC's gone on the DL before too
Every pitcher will get unlucky with injuries at some point. But what I do know is that Darvish has pitched 6 straight innings of at least 150 innings pitched and 4 of those innings have been over 200 innings. That says “durability” to me, and he hasn’t been abused while pitching in Japan either. And he has never had any issues with his arm, which is most important for a pitcher.
Let us all congratulate the Boston Red Sox for becoming the first World Champions in the history of sports to NOT make the postseason! Thats not easy to do!
None of these questions matter
People here say he’s gonna be great. That’s all that matters!
"Unpleasant Internet Dude"
He will be great
If at this time next year I find out I was completely wrong, then I’ll eat my words and never support paying big money for someone who hasn’t pitched in the majors again. I’ll at least admit that I can be wrong in this case, and that there is risk to it.
I don’t expect to have to do that though. He’s going to be successful.
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The stats also support him being great
With an ERA under 2 for four years in a row as well as a WHIP of 1.01 or less for the past four years.
"Son, Nobody is half as good as Mickey Mantle"
Doesn't always transition to the MLB well.
But the ERA should be low in his first year because no one will know how to hit him right away.
I say from the Japan league to the MLB give them a full earned run on their ERA. Likely see a 3.00 out of Darvish.
Residing on the BEast coast.
I'd hope for an ERA around 3.5
Which is more than good enough for a #2 starter. But I’d also know that he has the ability to perform much better than that as well.
Let us all congratulate the Boston Red Sox for becoming the first World Champions in the history of sports to NOT make the postseason! Thats not easy to do!
100+ million including the luxury tax
That doesn’t go into the payroll. The actual salary will probably be below market price and I would guess close to the amount Soriano makes except with more years.
If he were to throw 200 innings, win 15 games and have an ERA around 3.40-3.50, then I think that is more than good enough for me. Very consistent and reliable and solidifies the rotation. Thats the bar I’d set for him, but I’m sure he’s capable of MUCH better from his stuff and pitching in Japan.
Let us all congratulate the Boston Red Sox for becoming the first World Champions in the history of sports to NOT make the postseason! Thats not easy to do!
I really think his contract will be over $100M
then add the posting fee on top of that. He’s being called the best pitcher to come out of Japan in an offseason that has sparse pitching talent
You really think he'd make that much just based on salary?
A 5 year or 6 year deal for 100+ million is huge. I can’t see him demanding that from any team. Always possible though.
Let us all congratulate the Boston Red Sox for becoming the first World Champions in the history of sports to NOT make the postseason! Thats not easy to do!
An addition of 1 to his ERA would put his ERA
Somewhere from 2.5 to 2.9.
"Son, Nobody is half as good as Mickey Mantle"
My position is that I'd rather the Yankees spent the money and take the risk
rather than risk another team in the division (Boston) doing so, and making us regret it. Yes, the posting fee would likely be HUGE. But, that gives the team exclusive rights to deal with the player, which has historically caused the actual contract with said player to be below market value (one reason the Japan players union wants to scrap the posting process, which they refer to as a form of slavery). So, the addition to payroll, and the luxury tax impact, would be less than with a guy like Wilson. For a young player.
I also agree that the shift from 1 start per week to once per five days is worrisome, and I don’t have an answer for that. I just figure that the Yankees are the last team that should worry about money.
Stats this year for Darvish
http://bis.npb.or.jp/eng/2011/stats/pit_p.html
"Son, Nobody is half as good as Mickey Mantle"
Seriously?
An ERA of 1.49 and you’re looking at wild pitches?
"Son, Nobody is half as good as Mickey Mantle"
Sigh. It was in Jest.
Looks like Texas has the upper hand anyway. Gonna be a lot of sad faces around here. I’ve said from the beginning, and I still say it, he’s not going to be a Yankee.
"Unpleasant Internet Dude"
AJ would win every time
And thats 10 WP in more innings than AJ threw with probably less talented catchers in Japan as well. Russ shouldn’t have an issue catching him next year if they signed him.
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Russ is still under contract and the Yankees love him
I want Montero to catch but it’s not like Russ is going anywhere next year.
Let us all congratulate the Boston Red Sox for becoming the first World Champions in the history of sports to NOT make the postseason! Thats not easy to do!
One more arbitration year
So he’ll be back unless the Yankees non-tender him. I’m rooting for that, but I can’t see it happening.
Let us all congratulate the Boston Red Sox for becoming the first World Champions in the history of sports to NOT make the postseason! Thats not easy to do!
Russ and Brackman for Trout and Haren
Get it done Cashman!
Let us all congratulate the Boston Red Sox for becoming the first World Champions in the history of sports to NOT make the postseason! Thats not easy to do!
They DO have a crowded outfield.
I’d love to trade Russ and prospects for Peter Bourjous. But it won’t happen.
by Briceratops on Oct 10, 2011 11:54 PM EDT up reply actions
I know
But considering how highly the Yankees front office seems to think of him, he’s pretty much under contract because he isn’t going anywhere.
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Fine by me
Russ catches AJ, Montero catches everybody else. Martin would make a really good backup actually.
Let us all congratulate the Boston Red Sox for becoming the first World Champions in the history of sports to NOT make the postseason! Thats not easy to do!
I think Martin needs to catch at least 2-3 times/week
Part of his problem this year was that Joe gave him basically no rest. He was pretty good in April, enough to still be remembered during the All-Star voting later (lol). But Joe pitched him night and day, and he eventually wore down.
Let Montero split time between catcher and DH next season, and continue to learn the trade. His bat will be in the lineup, and the Yankees will get value out of both he and Martin, without wearing down either too much.
Thats the best case scenario
I don’t see them stripping playing time away from Martin though. I feel the most likely case is that he starts, Montero is the primary DH and Cervelli is the backup so long as he’s healthy with Romine starting in AAA. And then we’ll see a constant repeat of this past September where Montero is never allowed to catch a game except for once every three weeks for 6 innings.
Let us all congratulate the Boston Red Sox for becoming the first World Champions in the history of sports to NOT make the postseason! Thats not easy to do!
What does it say about me that I voted 100% in the Yankee fan confidence poll today?
I’ll plead that I’m confident in the team’s future :-)
It says
you’re the consummate Yankees fan, like most of us here, we expect to win.
"Unpleasant Internet Dude"
Pretty much
I still half think that the Yankees will pull off something semi-legal and make it to the World Series this season. Maybe Detroit will forfeit?
What a horrible baseball day for me today
Friggin’ Pujols now 4-4 with a HR and 3 doubles…
"Unpleasant Internet Dude"
OMG NO
Selig told Passan that his 14-man committee voted 14-0 in favor of expanding the playoffs. Passan hears that Selig considers ten-team playoffs to be one of his legacy items.
ugh. why do i keep doing that
Selig told Passan that his 14-man committee voted 14-0 in favor of expanding the playoffs. Passan hears that Selig considers ten-team playoffs to be one of his legacy items.
Was it a committee of people who want to expand the playoffs
by NYYankeeDude on Oct 10, 2011 10:47 PM EDT up reply actions
If he wants his legacy to be making a mockery of the postseason, he's well on his way
Home field advantage determined by meaningless All-Star game? Check.
Too much interleague? Check.
Making the playoffs even more of a crap-shoot to increase TV revenue? Check, I guess.
Hopefully Selig's "legacy"
Will quickly be overturned and retconned out of existence by the next person.
"WHO WOULD LEAD?! THE CLOWN?!"
by I'mGivingYouARaise on Oct 10, 2011 11:39 PM EDT up reply actions
Ya like that, right?
"WHO WOULD LEAD?! THE CLOWN?!"
by I'mGivingYouARaise on Oct 10, 2011 11:45 PM EDT up reply actions
Nerd Yankees Fans UNITE!
"WHO WOULD LEAD?! THE CLOWN?!"
by I'mGivingYouARaise on Oct 10, 2011 11:52 PM EDT up reply actions
The interesting about Bud’s legacy is
We refuse to use any kind of technology to improve the umpiring because of among other reasons, the tradition of the game
But changing the league formats, changing the playoffs, influencing the WS. No problem. Guess its a matter of which traditions you like
by NYYankeeDude on Oct 10, 2011 11:46 PM EDT up reply actions
There's a easier way to describe it
Fuckin’ idiocy!
"WHO WOULD LEAD?! THE CLOWN?!"
by I'mGivingYouARaise on Oct 10, 2011 11:49 PM EDT up reply actions
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