Possible Postseason Roster (A Response To nyyrocks29's Post)
I'm going to steal nyyrocks29's first paragraph, but disagree with his definite postseason roster players.
Barring an absolute miracle from the Red Sox, the Yankees, whether they win the division or wild card, are heading to their 14th postseason in 15 years. They're obviously going to set their lineups and roster for the postseason in the near future. Some of those calls for spots will be easy, others will be more difficult. I'll hit the definite ones first.
Catchers: Jorge Posada, Francisco Cervelli
First Base: Mark Teixeira, Lance Berkman
Second Base: Robinson Cano
Third Base: Alex Rodriguez
Shortstop: Derek Jeter
Outfielders: Brett Gardner, Curtis Granderson, Nick Swisher, Marcus Thames
Starting Pitchers: CC Sabathia, Andy Pettitte, Phil Hughes, A.J. Burnett
Relief Pitchers: Javier Vazquez, Boone Logan, Joba Chamberlain, David Robertson, Kerry Wood, Mariano Rivera
That makes 21. I disagree completely that Chad Gaudin will be a definite. As a matter of fact I don't think he will make the roster at all. Sure, Joe Girardi likes him, but Girardi likes Mitre more. I'm not willing to give Mitre a definite spot either, as Nova may get the spot over him even.
For now I put Pettitte as a definite, as he should be fully healthy by the playoffs unless he gets re-injured.
Kearns is also not a definite. Kearns would be a nice guy to have off the bench, but Thames is on the roster for a reason, and that is to face lefties. If Granderson needs to be benched, which he shouldn't, Thames may have to play the field, as bad as that sounds. Personally, I'd rather have Greg Golson on the roster.
While it would be nice to say Javier Vazquez won't be on the playoff roster, barring an injury or him beating up Joe Girardi in an alley, he will be on the roster. That shouldn't be the case, but knowing the Yankees, it will be.
Anyway, we're at 21. To fill the spots I'd like to narrow it down to Jonathan Albaladejo, Sergio Mitre, Ivan Nova, Royce Ring, Chad Moeller, Eduardo Nunez, Ramiro Pena, Greg Golson, and Austin Kearns.
The Yankees need a long reliever on the roster. My choice? Sergio Mitre. He has experience, his nickname is even "The Experience", and he has pitched well the majority of the season. Nova pitched great this year in AAA and has pitched well in the majors, but he isn't a sure thing in the majors just yet. Chad Gaudin shouldn't even be in consideration.
That's 22. Now the Yankees need a utility infielder. The choices are Ramiro Pena and Eduardo Nunez. My choice? Eduardo Nunez. It's a very tough choice to make, considering Pena has the better glove, but if the Yankees ever, ever need a late inning replacement, or an injury replacement, or any kind of replacement, the Yankees shouldn't give the other teams outs with Ramiro Pena in the lineup.
That's 23. Two spots left, a fifth outfielder needed. The choices are Austin Kearns and Greg Golson. My choice? Definitely Greg Golson. Golson has a cannon arm, as we've seen before. Golson can run and run and run and run his way onto the playoff roster. He can be this years Freddy Guzman, a late inning pinch-runner/defensive replacement. As mentioned before, Kearns is a nice bat to have off the bench, but not necessary.
That's 24. One spot left. The choices are Albaladejo, a one-inning reliever that has pitched well, Nova, a long reliever that has pitched well, Ring, a lefty reliever that really would only get near the roster if he pitches well against lefties for the rest of the regular season, Moeller, a 3rd catcher, Pena, a 2nd utility player and pinch runner, and Kearns, a bat off the bench. My choice? Albaladejo. He pitched really well this season and got called up a bit too late. He can pitch an inning or two in a close game if needed, and that may be needed. Nova or Pena would be fine choices as well.
That's 25. As for the rotation, I'd have CC go game one, Pettitte pitch game two, Hughes in game three, and Burnett in game four.
The lineup should have Gardner first and Jeter second, outside of that, as long as Granderson is playing every day, I'm fine with almost anything.
Thoughts?
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Take off Jonathon AlbsolutelyUseless
and put on Nova.
Take off Mitre, put back Kearns. We have 2 long relievers in Nova and Vazquez.
Toney Douglas
I’ll concede for putting on Kearns, but I prefer Mitre over Nova. How can you be sure Nova doesn’t freeze up in the playoffs? Normally I don’t buy the “no experience stuff” but Nova will only have two months of MLB experience max.
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2 months is enough.
Pretty sure the Angels won a WS with K-Rod in their pen.
How do you know Sergio Mitre will not be Sergio Mitre?
Toney Douglas
by FreeBradshaw on Sep 18, 2010 2:09 PM EDT up reply actions
Are you really comparing Ivan Nova to K-Rod? I get the point, but K-Rod is K-Rod. Mitre’s been good this year, how do you know he hasn’t been better because of him healing from the Tommy John surgery?
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Point is K-Rod was inexperienced.
So basically to rely on inexperience to keep Nova off the roster for Sergio friggin Mitre is horsecrap.
Also horsecrap, to rely on the Tommy John crutch again. That was last year. This year the TJ surgery doesn’t mean anything, he is who he is. And that’s someone who shouldn’t be on the roster.
Nova’s shown he can be a good pitcher the first go round of the lineup. I’d rather him in the pen then Mitre.
Toney Douglas
by FreeBradshaw on Sep 18, 2010 2:30 PM EDT up reply actions
I wasn’t relying on it as a crutch I was using it to his advantage. Mitre improved this year, being another removed from TJ surgery. My point is he’s a different pitcher than when he was a liability.
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I've watched plenty of this season, thank you.
Nova > Mitre.
Toney Douglas
by FreeBradshaw on Sep 18, 2010 3:03 PM EDT up reply actions
Mitre has always been a liability as is Gaudin
Nova has pitched well in 4 to 5 inning stints so keep him on the roster as the #2 long man in relief.
Pena over Nunez due to more experience, better glove and clutch hitting.
Kearns & Golson for bench strength & OF replacement
by YANKEES FOREVER on Sep 18, 2010 3:55 PM EDT up reply actions
Nova!
I agree. I know things get ugly for him after the forth, but things get ugly for Mitre once he steps on the mound.
by The Champs Are Here on Sep 18, 2010 4:27 PM EDT up reply actions
Gotta be wise here,
Kearns is useless in the clutch. Forget him. Nova has shown he can do the job. Keep him for in case starter and use for middle relief. Forget Gaudin. Keep Nunez and Golson. If we need players, we will need good defensive ones, and fast. They qualify. Mitre is a conundrum.
by Nine mike charlie on Sep 18, 2010 3:07 PM EDT up reply actions
Wise
would be keeping Kearns. He’s good defensively and unlike Golson he’s good at the plate.
Unwise would be using the past week as Kearns’ whole career, then dismissing him as “useless”.
Toney Douglas
by FreeBradshaw on Sep 18, 2010 3:30 PM EDT up reply actions
Mitre Is Terrible
That’s how I buy putting Nova on the roster.
by Ed Valentine on Sep 18, 2010 6:46 PM EDT up reply actions
Wait, what was the “this” in response to? Got buried under the comments.
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in reply to Free's comment waaay up above.
the first comment of the thread.
They didn't let me out, they just gave me a day pass.
We know that Girardi loves Mitre from his time in FL. He’s gonna make the roster. However, I doubt Albaladejo will make the last spot. We all know that Thames sucks major balls in the outfield, so, Cervelli forbid, someone gets hurt, no one wants to rely on Thames playing part/most of a game in the outfield, so they will carry Kearns as the 25th (plus it wouldn’t make much sense to trade for him in July to not have him on the postseason roster).
A few disagreements
There’s really no need to carry 12 pitchers. If Vazquez is the 10th pitcher, then he is the long man. We don’t necessarily need to take another long man. I don’t even see why Vazquez should be a lock, but given his salary, I agree that he probably is. If we take an 11th pitcher it should definitely be Nova rather than Mitre. Nova has shown an ability to get through an order once without many problems. After that he struggles a bit, but he wouldn’t be asked for more than that in a playoff game.
I think it’s also clear that Kearns will not only be on the playoff roster, but that he may start some games. I don’t think it’s a lock that Granderson would play against a lefty starter so in games against Cliff Lee, David Price, C.J. Wilson and Francisco Liriano, we may see Kearns in LF and Gardner in center. Kearns hasn’t exactly torn up left handed pitching this year, but he still hits them better than Grandy does.
I’d also consider carrying Moeller for this reason: If we pinch run for Posada and the game continues, it would be nice to be able to pinch hit for Cervelli rather than being forced to have him bat, possibly in a big spot, because we don’t have another catcher.
My roster would be…
C – Posada, Cervelli, Moeller
1b – Tex
2b – Cano
ss – Jeter, Nunez
3b – A-Rod
lf – Gardner, Kearns
cf – Granderson, Golson
rf – Swisher
dh – Berkman, Thames
sp – C.C., Pettitte, Hughes, Burnett
rp – Mariano, Wood, Joba, Robertson, Logan, Nova
I do realize though that Vazquez being left off is unlikely. If I had to put him in and take someone else out, I’d cut Nova.
by Let's Talk About Tex Baby on Sep 18, 2010 1:46 PM EDT reply actions
Mitre is a real conundrum, just like AJ
And we are one short. Got to be Vazquez.
by Nine mike charlie on Sep 18, 2010 3:10 PM EDT up reply actions
10 pitchers
No, in this scenario I’m going with 10 pitchers. I don’t see the need for 11, especially in the first round. It’s a bit of a risk, but chances are any game where they need to use the 11th pitcher is a loss anyway.
by Let's Talk About Tex Baby on Sep 18, 2010 4:07 PM EDT up reply actions
If Mitre or Gaudin are on the roster
I guarantee they will lose the team at least one game.
If CC Sabathia is on the roster
I guarantee they at least lose one game.
Toney Douglas
by FreeBradshaw on Sep 18, 2010 2:16 PM EDT up reply actions
Can I get tomorrow's lotto numbers?
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i would not start hughes in a home game (if we don't win the division ro have the best record)
his road and home split is pretty insane…
Oh, yeah I completely agree. That’s why I put him 3rd, assuming for now the Yankees win the division.
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by Brandon C. on Sep 18, 2010 3:19 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
You get to reset the roster between ALDS and ALCS
I see no need for Vazquez and Nova to make the team. If we need the long reliever twice in five game series, we’re toast anyways.
21 Nova/Javy
22 Royce Ring (if he pitches well in the next 3 weeks)
23 Golson
24 Kearns
25 whichever of Pena & Nunez wins a 30 yard dash.
"Have faith in the Yankees, my son. Think of the great DiMaggio."
I thought Ring was not eligible for the postseason roster, as he was not on the 40 man/brought up until after the 1st of September, unless someone gets injured
You name Nick Johnson or Alfredo Aceves to the roster, then replace him with Royce Ring.
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Hey you STOLE MY POST
lol kidding. Well not really, because you actually DID steal my post, but I’m not mad about it. I’ll say what I did in my own one. I think that Dustin Moseley has earned it. Javier Vazquez definitely is not a definite at this point (although neither is Moseley), but I think Moseley deserves it. He’s done well, both starting and relieving, especially against playoff teams (had great starts against Boston and Texas).
I do think that Kearns is probably a definite. The Yanks traded for him, he’s a MLB proven player (sort of), Girardi seems to really like him. I don’t like him much and I I’d rather take Golson, but I think Kearns probably makes it.
I do NOT want Gaudin on the roster. That was a mistake I did NOT mean to type. He shouldn’t be on the roster.
I completely agree about Golson and Nunez though.
I hate all Boston sports teams
Austin Kearns
There’s a very simple reason that Austin Kearns will be on the roster: the existence of left hander pitching.
Over the course of this season Granderson has, yet again, proven his inability to hit left handed pitching. I’m of the believe that hitting left handed pitching and hitting right handed pitching are two distinct skills and we can’t assume that the numbers will come ever close to evening out. Girardi also has shown a willingness to play Gardner in CF and Kearns in Left against a tough lefty. AND Swisher is dealing with a lot of injury issues and the idea of Thames seeing the field makes my skin crawl.
Lee, Price and Liriano basically guarantee Kearns’ roster spot and thinking anything else is ignoring reality.
NOT Kearns
He may have some experience, but his time in NY has been pitiful. He has 31 Ks vs 21 hits since coming over, and he usually strikes out with runners on. Plus, his fielding is mediocre at best. I would take Golson over Kearns – at least you get a guy who is speedy on the bases, has a cannon for an arm and the offense would be no worse than what Kearns brings to the table.
Kearns vs. Lefties with Yankees: .244/.340/.415
Kearns vs. Lefties in 2010: .248/.333/.397
Kearns vs. Lefties Career: .260/.381/.416
Granderson vs. Lefties in 2010: .245/.299/.357
Granderson vs. Lefties Career: .217/.275/.346
Golson only has 20 PAs in the majors in his career.
Golson in Minors: 263/.309/.398
Golson is a bad player. Any scenario where Golson picks up a bat in the postseason would be a staggeringly awful decision. Also awful is the idea of Granderson facing lefties in anything but the most dire circumstances. Give me Kearns in the line-up over Granderson against a tough lefty any day.
Basically, the Golson offense would be MUCH worse. Golson is a good defensive player (though he’s no Gardner and probably not even Granderson) and has a good arm (which really doesn’t mean all that much in terms of actually preventing runs), but his offense is so atrocious he’s managed just 20 major league plate appearances in a 7 year career. He hasn’t hit well in the minors, why would he magically be able to hit as well as Kearns when it gets to the postseason? And please don’t give me some silly cliche about Golson being a ‘winning type player’ or something like that.
royce ring
i’m pretty sure he has no shot at the post season because he is ineligible, i’m pretty sure you have to be on the 40 man roster before september 1st to qualify and he just got put on it, so keep him out. girardi has barely used mitre lately, which leads me to believe he’s not fully healthy or girardi doesn’t trust him anymore, so he’s not gonna make it. I would love to see abaladejo on there, but i have a feeling girardi will go with gaudin because he can eat up innings in any blow out games. As for the fielders, Kearns and Nunez would definitly both be there.
gaudin and mitre on post season roster...LOL
These two are here to eat innings during the regular season….THATS IT!!!
Burnett
I would take Burnett out of the rotation. He’s 10-14 on a team with the best record in baseball. He sucks and has been terrible for 2 years. He’s living off the past. As crazy as it sounds, I’d replace him with Nova and relegate him to the pen. So he won’t like it. This is about winning. And if he gets bored, he can count all the money the Yanks are paying him for nothing!

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