Around the Yankee Galaxy: When to expect Andy and Alex?
The earliest we'll see Andy Pettitte back in pinstripes is September 12th against the Rangers -
"I was a little tentative at first with a couple of curveballs," Pettitte said. "But when I got out over my front leg and pushed off, I felt good. It was a good day, there was a lot more intensity than I threw with than Friday."
Next up is another bullpen session [today] or [tomorrow]. At some point, Pettitte will face hitters in simulated action. After that a rehab assignment awaits, depending on what the minor league playoff situation looks like.
I'd prefer he take his time and make sure to be 100% for the playoffs.
- As for A-Rod -
Manager Joe Girardi said before the game that Rodriguez remains on schedule to return to the lineup Sunday, which is the first day he is eligible to come off the DL. He will not likely need to play in any rehab games, Girardi added.
Again, they need to ensure he really is ready to return. Hitting the DL again just as the season is ending would be the worst possible outcome.
- The right side of the Yankee infield is quickly overtaking the left side in terms of production -
With age and injury slowly limiting the left side of the infield, the Yankees' power is shifting to the right.
Derek Jeter and Alex Rodriguez still have the Hollywood names, but who is more important on the field for this stretch run and for the postseason: Jeter and A-Rod or Robinson Cano and Mark Teixeira?
On Monday, Cano and Teixeira led the way as the Yankees shook down Oakland's Trevor Cahill... Teixeira and Cano nailed back-to-back homers in the third in the 11-5 Yankees win. Cano's long ball was his career-high 26th.
It's been fun watching Robbie evolve into the hitter he is.
- What's to be done about Jeter's hitting?
To end the top of the fifth inning - with two men on base and the Yankees leading by two runs - Jeter darted to his right for a ground ball by Kevin Kouzmanoff.
He gloved it on the backhand, leapt into the air with his right leg extended and threw to first base the way a quarterback might throw a football on a jump pass.
The ball bounced once and perfectly into the glove of Mark Teixeira for the third out. Jeter ran to the dugout to the cheers of the crowd of 46,356.
Few shortstops at any age can make that play the way Jeter still can at 36.
But Jeter's hitting is a different matter, at least at the moment. Despite 13 Yankees hits Monday - including home runs by Teixeira, Robinson Cano and Marcus Thames - Jeter was 0 for 4 and left the game after seven innings.
He is batting .268, which is 49 points below his career average of .317 before the start of the season.
His on-base percentage, .333, is 55 points below his career mark; his slugging percentage, .378, is 81 points below his career mark.
Should he remain the leadoff or #2 hitter, or should he be dropped down to the bottom third?
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I'm beginning to get a bit concerned about Jeter's hitting
And honestly, I’m not sure what the Yankees should do about it. His 2.0 WAR might barely surpass his 2.6 from 1997. Otherwise, it will be a career-low.
His linedrive percentage is sitting at 16.8% in 2010 when his career average has been 20.3%. The most startling statistic I’ve come across is that his already atrocious career average of 56.8% groundballs is all the way up 65.6% this year. He hits nearly 2/3 of the balls he makes contact with on the ground. He simply doesn’t have the speed of a Brett Gardner to beat these out. Even so, that’s a TON of groundballs.
I really don’t know what the Yankees should do when it comes to moving him down or not.
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Another awful stat
His normal GB/FB ratio is 2.49 for his career. In 2010? 3.75.
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by Chris McKeown on Aug 31, 2010 7:26 AM EDT up reply actions
i feel like his patience is the real problem
jeter seem less inclined to take pitches or at least swing at good ones. looking at his zone and out of zone swing it’s god awful this year compared to his career avgs. 28.6 % of the time he swings at things out of the zone which is much higher than his 20.3% career avg and he’s making contact 69.2% of the time. This may be why he has hit into so many grounders. Even more frustrating is that jeter has not seemed to make any attempt at changing his approach all year. It’s been like this all year long,and jeter seems to be trying to break out of it by trying the same thing over and over.
and I guess you never have a bad year
look 1 year means nothing, and he is still doing decent…maybe the long WS run last season is harder on him now that he is older
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by Rickfansince76 on Aug 31, 2010 2:54 PM EDT up reply actions
Hitting a lot of groundballs is not necessarily a bad thing. In fact, batting average on ground balls is usually higher than batting average on fly balls (obviously line drives are the best).
However, that is somewhat balanced out by the fact that fly balls can turn into home runs and groundballs can’t, and the fact that ground balls are much more likely to become a double play (as Jeter has shown).
For some hitters, like GGBG for example, hitting ground balls enables them to use their speed, and since they have negligable power anyway, it’s not a real loss of extra bases. Jeter, as a right handed batter with declining speed, is somewhat less served by this, because he doesn’t tend to beat out a lot of infield hits, and does tend to GIDP.
So, while hitting groundballs in general isn’t a bad thing, hitting them at the extremely high volume that DJ has, especially given his skill set (right handed, average, maybe slightly above average speed) has lead to alot of outs. And also, I think a lot of the ground balls have been in the form of balls that are very weakly put into play. Overall, he’s just not making contact this year the way that we’re used to seeing in the past.
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I dunno what Girardi does pre-game
but if he doesn’t, I think he should at least go up to Jeet and ask him if he wants to do something about this.
You know damn well Jeter probably hasn’t gone to Kevin Long like Grandy and Swish did, there’s no chance of that.
Maybe Joe just needs to introduce Derek to Kevin?
Not really sure about Jeter
he is hitting so much better at home so he still can do it. I don’t think its a case of him not being able to hit like he has in the past anymore. If we took the names out of it and just looked at the numbers where would he be hitting in the line up? Its not that simple because he has got so many big hits in the past. In a big spot of a game or in the playoffs there are few I would rather have hitting then him. ?? not sure
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Maybe a lingering injury?
Age you can’t do anything about, but it wouldn’t surprise me to see Jeter rebound a bit next year. It was just last year he hit .334, so unless he’s falling off a Bernie-sized cliff, I’m not convinced that this is as good as he’ll ever play again. I also doubt he ever gets back to 2009 form. Last year, I remember many times thinking to myself, “Enjoy this now, as he will never do this again.”
Ideally, Swisher hits second and Jeter bats 7th or 8th, depending on who is catching, who is getting a spot start, etc.
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If the Yanks make the playoffs I think he will be a big player.
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We can only hope
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by Chris McKeown on Aug 31, 2010 12:23 PM EDT up reply actions
I think it's an injury for Jeet
He is hitting 60 points lower than last season. No one ages THAT fast. I suspect he has a nagging injury or two only Jeet knows about. Either way, however, he needs to do what is best for the team and accept being moved down the lineup if so asked. He is killing the offense with his first pitch ground balls in the two hole. I would love to see Swish in that spot.
by HappyLuckyGoldenDragonNumber1! on Aug 31, 2010 8:58 AM EDT reply actions
Robinson Cano is the best player on the team right now.
If everyone were healthy during the playoffs, Jeter should be hitting 9th. He is bringing that little to the table. Gardner has become a better leadoff hitter. Jeter hits into too many double plays to bat second, and he is producing less than any other hitter. Whether it’s age or injuries, he’s just not the same player offensively.
Andy Pettitte can not come back too soon for me.
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by designatedquitter on Aug 31, 2010 9:04 AM EDT reply actions
He'll step it up in the postseason
he always has. Girardi moving Jeter to ninth in the playoffs would sort of mirror Joe Torre batting Ardo 8th in 2006.
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I've said it all season
Jetes has to be injured….But he has to start realizing a week off or so will help the team AND him more now that he is 36 years old. He can’t heal as he plays anymore. I just don’t believe that he can fall off so much in one year.
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Yea I'm concerned
It’s tough to watch, to be honest. He’s my favorite player. Maybe even my favorite of all time (I can’t decide between him and Mattingly, but I only watched Mattingly in his later years, and I’ve seen Jeter his whole career).
But I don’t buy into all this “move him down in the lineup” crap. Honestly, what would that do? He’d lose the protection of Swisher or Tex, whoever he’s batting in front of. And it would make Jeter experience something he hasn’t had to experience since his rookie year in 1996.
Now, I don’t think he should be leading off anymore. The Yankees ideal lineup is with him leading off and Swish batting second, but he just isn’t getting the job done. A leadoff hitter needs to have higher than a .333 OBP. But I do think he should hit second. He’d get the protection of Teixeira. The DP problem only lasts for one AB- I think people make way too big a deal out of that. Nobody cared before Jeter and Damon were flopped last year.
I just hope he manages to turn it around. It’s difficult to have to move the captain down in the lineup or change his role a bit, but if he keeps producing so bad and gets into the .250s range and maybe even lower (although I think he’ll turn it around), they may have no choice but to make some sort of a move. I’m sure if the Yanks DO choose to move Jeter down in the lineup, he’ll take it like a man.
A-Rod will be fine- a strained calf doesn’t take 15 days to heal. I know the Yanks were being cautious. But the calf is probably fine by now. And he’s going to have almost another week. He’ll be good.
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He is the Captian and he should approach Joe before Joe has to approach Jeter. Many captains in Hockey take on lesser roles but still provide leadership. If he is hurt or has a twinge he should get some rest before the playoffs. He should bat 2nd in the playoffs to see more fastballs. I hope he does the right thing
Yes people did care about the DPs
The year before Jeter was the fourth highest in GIDP amongst ALL hitters in MLB. That’s why Girardi moved him to lead off in 09. Nothing is worse than a strike out other than a GiDP. It kills an inning. I am as big a Jeter fan as anyone here but I am a Yankees fan first. If him hitting in the 7th hole for a week or two or taking a few days off when A-Rod returns helps him for the stretch and helps the team so be it. If Jeter is injured, fine, as a Captain put your team first and ask for a few days off. He is hitting worse than Ortiz, you know, the guy we were killing last year for sucking so bad. Jeter will bounce back for the playoffs and hopefully get right next season. Luckily Cano, Swish, Tex and Thames have put the entire offense on their shoulders.
by HappyLuckyGoldenDragonNumber1! on Aug 31, 2010 12:53 PM EDT up reply actions
we're in the heat of a playoff race
who do you want to get more ABs the rest of the year, Jeter or Swisher? the answer is Swisher.
I’d prefer [Pettitte] take his time and make sure to be 100% for the playoffs.
If he’s nearly ready and we’re still in the heat of a race, he’d better hurry back. If the teams separate themselves a little bit, then I’m more ok with him taking his time.
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doesn't look like the "separate" part is going to happen
The Rays aren’t going away- they’re dead even with the Yanks right now and I think it’s gonna go down to the wire. I really want to win the division, and it’s gonna be tough to do with one reliable starter. They need Andy back and for A.J. to get going. Even if A.J. does straighten himself out, two reliable starters still isn’t enough and A.J. is too inconsistent to really be called “reliable” even when he’s going well.
Just my opinion, but the Yanks need Andy and need him soon to take this division.
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Nearly every game from now on is critical to winning the East
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by Chris McKeown on Aug 31, 2010 3:02 PM EDT up reply actions
Could it just be that Jeter is having an off year?
I mean, isn’t he is allowed one? Actually, wouldn’t this technically be his first off year in the many, many years he’s graced our field with his Jeterian presence?
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by I'mGivingYouARaise on Aug 31, 2010 1:24 PM EDT reply actions
off year for Jeter means batting .295 and an OBP of .360 slugging about .460
His BA of .268, OBP .333 and SLG of .411 is by far his worst season by quite a bit. Past performance does not mean you get to play poorly for as long as you want. These numbers indicate a problem and I am quite sure it is not age. My money is on a nagging injury. But the Captain being the kind of guy we love won’t even tell the staff of his injury let alone ask for a couple days off. I fully expect even at 37 next season his numbers will be substantially better than this year. I also always trust him in the playoffs.
by HappyLuckyGoldenDragonNumber1! on Aug 31, 2010 1:35 PM EDT up reply actions
+1
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by Chris McKeown on Aug 31, 2010 2:01 PM EDT up reply actions
2008 wasn't great
but he still hit .300. This is his worst year by far.
I’m worried about this off season. I hope this is just an off year. But if this his beginning of a decline, then I don’t feel comfortable with the Yanks giving him another huge, long term contract that is going to be bad for the team.
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Few shortstops at any age can make that play the way Jeter still can at 36.
That’s because the other shortstops have quicker first steps and turn that groundball into a routine out, not a jump throw. It’s like when Jacoby Ellsburty takes a bad route to a ball, and then turns what should be a stand up catch into a diving catch. Yeah, it looks cool on SportsCenter, but a better defender makes the play easily, and doesn’t screw up a slightly harder play because of their bad route/slow first step.
I know he’s Derek Jeter and the jump throw gets the mancrush juices flowing, but the idea that 36 year old Derek Jeter is any kind of defensive whiz or is making plays that other shortstops can’t just entirely flies in the face of any logic, scouting, or defensive metric.
I’m sorry to be Buzz Killington, because it was a nice play, but Derek Jeter really isn’t a good defensive shortstop and probably never has been.
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by HappyLuckyGoldenDragonNumber1! on Aug 31, 2010 4:45 PM EDT up reply actions
Truth
The devil put those facts there to trick us!
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by Captain_Mick on Aug 31, 2010 5:02 PM EDT up reply actions

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