Getting Montero on the 40-man
by jscape2000 on Aug 23, 2010 12:01 PM EDT
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PrintI've been thinking about how to get Jesus Montero on the 40-man.
There are two ways to open up a roster spot: moving a player to the 60-day DL or Designating a player for assignment.
Arod, Andy Pettitte, Lance Berkman, and Damaso Marte are all on the 15 day DL. The Yankees expect each of those players back for the stretch drive.
Alfredo Aceves and Nick Johnson are on the 60-day DL. Chad Gadin is in Aceves' spot, while Chad Moeller is currently occupying NJ's spot on the 40-man. Aceves should be back soon. DFAing NJ wouldn't even open up a spot; it's Moeller who is active. Because NJ was on the 25 man roster before hitting the DL, I believe he would be eligible for the playoff roster if he gets healthy. If Johnson stays injured, I believe it would open up a playoff roster spot to any player on the 40-man roster, a la K-Rod in 2002.
I don't think there are many extra pitchers to DFA- Aceves will take Gaudin's spot, and all the minor league pitching (Brackman, Noesi, Nova and Sanchez) have improved their stock this year.
I suppose the Yankees could DFA Dustin Moseley when Andy Pettitte returns, rather than optioning him to the minors.
The other option is to bump one of the 9 outfielders from the 40-man roster. Greg Golson and Colin Curtis are both relatively replaceable AAA outfielders. I'm not sure what their current contract situation is, but whichever is a minor league free agent first (I think Golson), is a DFA option. On the other hand, Golson could be a playoff pinch runner option.
After reviewing all the options above, I think getting Montero on the 40-man and into the show this season is only worthwhile if the Yankee brass feels he'll be getting meaningful ABs in October. This means getting Montero up before September 1 so that he's eligible. A September call-up would be nice, get his feet wet, etc etc. But a versatile playoff bench is more important. With Thames, Kearns and Berkman all locks as DH/ bats off the bench, Nick Johnson a remote possibility, Golson/Curtis as a pinch runner, I don't see any way Montero will be used in October.
Leave him in the minor leagues.
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LOL
"Winning is the most important thing in my life, after breathing. Breathing first, winning next." -George Michael Steinbrenner III
by Chris McKeown on Aug 23, 2010 2:31 PM EDT up reply actions
i don't hate him
i loathe him
A thousand lips. A thousand tongues. A thousand throats. A thousand lungs. A thousand ways to make it true. I want to do terrible things to you.
by Nine Inch Nails on Aug 23, 2010 3:03 PM EDT up reply actions
Chad Curtis is on the 40 man roster?
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You would
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by Chris McKeown on Aug 23, 2010 2:31 PM EDT up reply actions
I agree leave him in the minors...
No real need tio bring him up…hender his developement, and excuse players like brackman whose a legit DH….and kearns who’s raking right now…
Though colin curtis?…..Uhhhh…yea…..
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by NYYWinsRings27 on Aug 23, 2010 12:45 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
I'd DFA Dustin Moseley or Chad Moeller
It only takes one spot to open up to bring up Jesus. Optioning Moseley down won’t do anything for the Yanks down the stretch. They’ll get Andy back, have the rotation set. Optioning him to the minors wouldn’t make much sense to me. He has no future with this team and be much help once people from the DL make their returns.
Johnson will stay hurt. Waste of money, waste of time. I hate that guy.
I think Montero off the bench as a third catcher/pinch hitter in the postseason and down the stretch will not be a bad idea. The Yanks had Cervelli on the postseason roster as a third catcher last year, I see no reason why Montero can’t be used this year. If they can manage it, then why not?
"I'll do whatever it takes to win games, whether it's sitting on a bench waving a towel, handing a cup of water to a teammate, or hitting the game-winning shot"-Kobe Bryant
jscape's point
is that someone would have to be sent down or DFA’d before September 1. So, unless the Yankees are certain that they’re going to get Pettitte back this week, they might need Moseley and Nova to spot start until Pettitte is full strength and Javy is over his dead arm period.
Without knowing specifically when Pettitte will be back, it’s hard to say Moseley won’t be needed.
I don’t hate Johnson. It’s not his fault he got signed, or offered a contract, or got injured. If anyone is surprised, they need a reality check.
No point wasting energy hating someone, especially someone who has no direct impact on your life (the universal “your” not you, nyyrocks29 “your”).
he's getting ready for the World Series
"I'll do whatever it takes to win games, whether it's sitting on a bench waving a towel, handing a cup of water to a teammate, or hitting the game-winning shot"-Kobe Bryant
DFA Wilkin De la Rosa
He’s been terrible this year. Totally expendable.
Strikeouts are boring- Besides that, they're fascist. Throw some ground balls - it's more democratic.
Moeller isn't on the 40-man roster
At least not according to the SWB-Yanks roster page. I’m pretty sure he was DFA’d, then waived when Jorge came back, then re-signed to a minor league deal once he cleared waivers.
http://web.minorleaguebaseball.com/milb/stats/stats.jsp?t=t_ros&cid=531&stn=true&sid=t531
by long time listener on Aug 23, 2010 2:17 PM EDT reply actions
Moeller's ESPN page confirms that he was DFA'd in June
by long time listener on Aug 23, 2010 3:03 PM EDT up reply actions
I’m a doofus- I was looking at the roster on MLB.com and still made that mistake.
But we’d been talking here about whether or not the Yanks would want a 3rd catcher. With no 3rd catcher on the 40-man, Montero is the choice since you’d have to add someone no matter what. If they want a 3rd catcher.
"Have faith in the Yankees, my son. Think of the great DiMaggio."
I think they're certain to want a third catcher for the stretch drive.
I see them calling up Russo, Miranda, at least one outfielder, Albalandejo, and maybe Sanchez when the rosters expand, but I think they’re going to need a third catcher – that way they can pinch-hit for Cervelli in games where Posada is DHing, and, if everything is clinched by the last week, they can rest both Posada and Cervelli. I guess Montero makes the most sense, but maybe the Yanks just want a throw-away catcher (Moeller) for a throw-away role.
by long time listener on Aug 23, 2010 4:22 PM EDT up reply actions
Either im missing some sort of joke or you spelled Chad Gaudin wrong in the 3rd paragraph.
Any who, I pretty much agree with everything you said. I like Montero, but i would rather leave him in the minors. A veteran would be much more efficient in the post season.
I love you, but mostly I love the children we're about to have...
When do Johnson and Aceves eligible to come off the 60 day?
"Winning is the most important thing in my life, after breathing. Breathing first, winning next." -George Michael Steinbrenner III
Nick Johnson will never play baseball again.
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Of course
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by Chris McKeown on Aug 23, 2010 2:38 PM EDT up reply actions
i dont mean never play again
i meant not play for us again.
I love you, but mostly I love the children we're about to have...
i mean.
he will be injured and never play baseball again.
IT IS HIGHH, IT IS FARRR, IT ISSS caught by the catcher.
im not sure really sure why we got him in the first place.
we knew he gets hurt a lot so why did we pick him up? We wasted our money on someone who is just going to sit there and watch.
I love you, but mostly I love the children we're about to have...
He lost all of his abilities
when he shaved the ’stache
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the stache magically got pavano 15 wins. -_-
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Pavano is actually a great pitcher
i just hate his guts
I love you, but mostly I love the children we're about to have...
u r never supposed to say hes a great pitcher!!!!!!!!!!!
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He decides to be once he's not making as much
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by Chris McKeown on Aug 23, 2010 3:05 PM EDT up reply actions
Yes he will.
"Shaw, Williams, prepared to venture down the left. There's a good ball in for Tony Morley. Oh, it must be and it is! It's Peter Withe"
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become eligible*
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"Winning is the most important thing in my life, after breathing. Breathing first, winning next." -George Michael Steinbrenner III
by Chris McKeown on Aug 23, 2010 2:33 PM EDT up reply actions
Wow.
Time for the Yankee fan to forget the 2009 World Series he had.
I love you, but mostly I love the children we're about to have...
It would be... awkward for every party involved
something tells me this is just to prevent the Rays from picking him up
by Monotonousblob on Aug 23, 2010 3:39 PM EDT up reply actions
I don't know why he would want to be traded from one no contender to another
especially after how much the fans hated him and he talked up how much better Yankees fans were.
by Monotonousblob on Aug 23, 2010 3:42 PM EDT up reply actions
oh dear
I’d be surprised if he goes back there- those fans are terrible to him. Why would he want to go back there? It’s not like the Sox have a great playoff chance anyway.
I hope the Yanks claim him, personally.
"I'll do whatever it takes to win games, whether it's sitting on a bench waving a towel, handing a cup of water to a teammate, or hitting the game-winning shot"-Kobe Bryant
you mean we do?
DH him. I’d rather have Damon than Berkman.
"I'll do whatever it takes to win games, whether it's sitting on a bench waving a towel, handing a cup of water to a teammate, or hitting the game-winning shot"-Kobe Bryant
Over Damon though?
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meh
it depends. Are there stats comparable?
I love you, but mostly I love the children we're about to have...
When I ask Why
you cant say meh. that doesnt even make sense
I love you, but mostly I love the children we're about to have...
Only against lefties Cup
I could hit righties better.
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Someone on Wikipedia doesn't realized the claimed doesn't mean that Damon automatically goes there
Just went there and it already says he plays there.
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Someone fixed it.
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Charge the mound.
"Shaw, Williams, prepared to venture down the left. There's a good ball in for Tony Morley. Oh, it must be and it is! It's Peter Withe"
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MLB Slugfest, it was
Twas wonderful.
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Against you?
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Ah, I see...
"Shaw, Williams, prepared to venture down the left. There's a good ball in for Tony Morley. Oh, it must be and it is! It's Peter Withe"
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another sex robot on Twitter followed me...
I love you, but mostly I love the children we're about to have...
nah i'll pass
besides, i think its a woman
I love you, but mostly I love the children we're about to have...
Nice, I lost someone.
"Shaw, Williams, prepared to venture down the left. There's a good ball in for Tony Morley. Oh, it must be and it is! It's Peter Withe"
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me too
the robot people unfollow you the next day…
I love you, but mostly I love the children we're about to have...
I don't think it was a PornBot though...
I think someone was mad about the soccer tweets I was posting an hour ago.
"Shaw, Williams, prepared to venture down the left. There's a good ball in for Tony Morley. Oh, it must be and it is! It's Peter Withe"
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LOL
a couple people blocked me because of all my Yankees Tweets a few days ago
I love you, but mostly I love the children we're about to have...
During the playoffs last year, I had a Yankees fan follow me during a game
It was Game 5 against the Angels, they ended u losing, and I dropped a GIANT F-Bomb on twitter.
Immediate unfollow.
"Shaw, Williams, prepared to venture down the left. There's a good ball in for Tony Morley. Oh, it must be and it is! It's Peter Withe"
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What? It wasn't calling anyone out.
It ws just an “oh crap we lost” F-Bomb.
"Shaw, Williams, prepared to venture down the left. There's a good ball in for Tony Morley. Oh, it must be and it is! It's Peter Withe"
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Don't Follow Aardvarks.
"Shaw, Williams, prepared to venture down the left. There's a good ball in for Tony Morley. Oh, it must be and it is! It's Peter Withe"
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LOL
do you ever have random people follow you and you dont why???
I love you, but mostly I love the children we're about to have...
Like this?
http://twitter.com/CCardGoliath
"Shaw, Williams, prepared to venture down the left. There's a good ball in for Tony Morley. Oh, it must be and it is! It's Peter Withe"
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I mean like this
https://twitter.com/BillZucker
I love you, but mostly I love the children we're about to have...
BUT HE"Z VARAFIED!
Take your pick…
http://twitter.com/AMNtillwefin
http://twitter.com/canoapanoa (Dude speaks in spanish! Why is he following me?)
And!
http://twitter.com/NewYorkPost
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I think its weird some random celeb followed me...
What about these….
https://twitter.com/cybersex_101
https://twitter.com/Rubiksonline
https://twitter.com/esif22
I love you, but mostly I love the children we're about to have...
The Rubiks people probably have a feed set up for anyone the posts something about rubiks cubes
I had a similar thing happen with a soccer video game I tweeted about.
"Shaw, Williams, prepared to venture down the left. There's a good ball in for Tony Morley. Oh, it must be and it is! It's Peter Withe"
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Oh pornbots just follow everyone
also now a spanish speaking guy named Josh Dennis is now following me….go figure http://twitter.com/TutorDigital
"Shaw, Williams, prepared to venture down the left. There's a good ball in for Tony Morley. Oh, it must be and it is! It's Peter Withe"
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i think it has something to do with
all the soccer tweets
I love you, but mostly I love the children we're about to have...
No, he follows someone I RT'd
"Shaw, Williams, prepared to venture down the left. There's a good ball in for Tony Morley. Oh, it must be and it is! It's Peter Withe"
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It still says Johnny Damon is on the Red Sox on Wikipedia.
I love you, but mostly I love the children we're about to have...
Huh....for a while there it was fixed.
"Shaw, Williams, prepared to venture down the left. There's a good ball in for Tony Morley. Oh, it must be and it is! It's Peter Withe"
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in teh first paragraph its says hes on teh Tigers,
but in the box on the side it says Red Sox
I love you, but mostly I love the children we're about to have...
Fixed again....
"Shaw, Williams, prepared to venture down the left. There's a good ball in for Tony Morley. Oh, it must be and it is! It's Peter Withe"
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I suggest you guys read my edit before its gone.
"Shaw, Williams, prepared to venture down the left. There's a good ball in for Tony Morley. Oh, it must be and it is! It's Peter Withe"
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DAmmit, they won't let me post it....
"Shaw, Williams, prepared to venture down the left. There's a good ball in for Tony Morley. Oh, it must be and it is! It's Peter Withe"
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Ok there's this I made then
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Johnny_Damon#Back_to_Red_Sox.3F
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My new edit went through
Try and spot it now, its like a game!
"Shaw, Williams, prepared to venture down the left. There's a good ball in for Tony Morley. Oh, it must be and it is! It's Peter Withe"
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"Shaw, Williams, prepared to venture down the left. There's a good ball in for Tony Morley. Oh, it must be and it is! It's Peter Withe"
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LOL
I like how in your other pics there is a dude with a heart around his face.
I love you, but mostly I love the children we're about to have...
Don't forget my Cervelli shirt.
"Shaw, Williams, prepared to venture down the left. There's a good ball in for Tony Morley. Oh, it must be and it is! It's Peter Withe"
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i just said i was 13 over at SS&R
one person said he would cut down on cursing. then me and 3 other people proceeded to say f*ck/shit.
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Laker Fan?
Wagon.
DFA.
"Shaw, Williams, prepared to venture down the left. There's a good ball in for Tony Morley. Oh, it must be and it is! It's Peter Withe"
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No, I meant Designate for Assignment
its off to HH for Cup!
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Halos Heavan
its like baseball Hell
I love you, but mostly I love the children we're about to have...
im not a bandwagoner. ive liked them ever since i started watching basketball.
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Just sayin.
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If Free was here....oh man...
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http://www.sbnation.com/users/FreeBradshaw
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isnt Y2 and nyyrocks29 laker fans?
i swear i saw them and you at SS&R a couple weeks back.
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i was just gonna say Y2, but then i remembered nyyrocks29.
my grammar is magnificent. lmao
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If you can't tell the Damon wiki thing is irritating me. So here's another edit!
"Shaw, Williams, prepared to venture down the left. There's a good ball in for Tony Morley. Oh, it must be and it is! It's Peter Withe"
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I hope they claim Manny, Bay, and Damon off waivers
by Scooby Snacks on Aug 23, 2010 5:41 PM EDT up reply actions
Wikipedia would explode
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